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From birchall@pilot.njin.net Fri Jul  2 13:09:02 1993
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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
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Subject: RFD: comp.os.geos.* hierarchy
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This is the official CFD (Call for Discussion) of the creation of a new
hierarchy and subgroups within that hierarchy, to better distribute and
broaden the topics now covered in the newsgroup comp.os.msdos.pcgeos.

PROPOSED HIERARCHY: comp.os.geos.*

PROPOSED GROUPS:

comp.os.geos {or comp.os.geos.misc}             Unmoderated
comp.os.geos.bugs                               Unmoderated
comp.os.geos.announce                           Moderated(?)
comp.os.geos.binaries {or comp.binaries.geos}   Unmoderated
comp.os.geos.programmer                         Unmoderated

BACKGROUND AND RATIONALE:

For some time, the group comp.os.msdos.pcgeos has been in use.  This name
is a bit misleading in my opinion, since it portrays GEOS as merely an
application set which runs under MSDOS, rather than an entire operating
environment/system.

In the past, I have discussed the idea of getting a full hierarchy for the
GEOS operating system with a representative of GeoWorks, and at that point
in time, he suggested waiting until v2.0 of the software shipped.  2.0 has
now been released as an upgrade for current users, and the bandwidth and
topic spread of comp.os.msdos.pcgeos have been increasing quite a bit.
Therefore, I feel the time has come to propose the hierarchy.

CHARTERS:

comp.os.geos {or comp.os.geos.misc} (unmoderated) will be a newsgrop for
general discussion of GEOS-based products from GeoWorks (Berkeley, CA) and
their associated third-party vendors.  Discussion topics would thus include
GeoWorks Ensemble (1.0, 1.2, 2.0), GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office
Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's applications, America Online,
Palm and Intuit's applications for the forthcoming Zoomer platform, and any
other GEOS-related topics.  I personally expect that "tweaks" will be a
popular topic, as the current group includes a lot of discussion of ways to
make GEOS act the way you want it to.  More specific groups would exist
under the hierarchy, as follows:

comp.os.geos.bugs (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for the discussion of
"undocumented features" found in GEOS-based products.  This would include
postings along the lines of "if you do this, you get that error," of
course, and also less crucial ones such as "this worked differently
<better> in the last release, what happened?"

comp.os.geos.announce (moderated?) will be a newsgroup for the announcement
of GEOS-based products and related products.  This would include any new
releases by GeoWorks, any new releases by third-party vendors for the GEOS
operating system, and any announcements relating to the Casio/Tandy Zoomer
PDA.  I believe this group will become very useful in the next few months,
as the public release of 2.0, the introduction of the Zoomer, and the first
big wave of third-party support should all hit early this fall.  I'm not
sure whether this group would best be moderated by a representative of
GeoWorks or an independent user of the system, and a representative of
GeoWorks told me he doesn't think the traffic will be high enough initially
to warrant a moderator, thus the question-mark.

comp.os.geos.binaries {or comp.binaries.geos} (unmoderated) will be a
newsgroup for the posting of UUencoded binaries for use with the GEOS
operating system.  This would include any free or shareware applications,
document templates, screen backgrounds, clip-art,  non-ASCII informational
files, et cetera.  As some people have already begun posting binaries to
the existing group (much to the chagrin of our resident GeoWorker), I
suspect this would be a good group to get started pronto.

comp.os.geos.programmer (unmoderated) will be a newsgroup for discussion of
matters pertaining to writing software for the GEOS operating system.  As
the GEOS Software Development Kit and Device Driver Development Kit are yet
in beta testing, this group would be somewhat quiet, at first.  However,
the SDK _documentation_ is available, and those of us who have it (myself
included) would probably appreciate having the space to discuss it, and
others could read and learn along with us.

SUMMARY:

In summary, a new hierarchy with subgroups would better serve the GEOS
community, both now, as topics and bandwidth have just begun to increase,
and in the future, as the increase accelerates.  Renaming the hierarchy
would also clarify GEOS's position as an operating environment/system.

CFV:

Calls for votes will begin in about a month (late July of 1993).  I expect
that there will be one initial call for votes, for the comp.os.geos group
(thus creating the hierarchy) and then, if the first CFV passes, a set of
individual CFV's for the subgroups in late August.  This allows enough
time to get the hierarchy  configured before the anticipated explosive
growth in late September or early October.

DISCUSSION:

Discussion of the proposed groups should be held on news.groups. Note that
the Followup-To: line of this article will direct any followups to
news.groups automatically.

Feel free to re-post this article to other newsgroups whose readers might
find it of interest, as long as the Followup-To: line remains directed to
news.groups.

-----

-Shag

From jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Wed Aug  4 10:24:40 1993
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
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Subject: CFV: comp.os.geos
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                      CALL FOR VOTES (1st of 3)
 
Unmoderated group comp.os.geos
 
Newsgroups line:        The GEOS operating system and related products

Votes must be recieved by 3 Sep 1993, 23:59 UT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only, contact jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu.  For questions about the proposed
group, contact Shag <birchall@pilot.njin.net>.


CHARTER

Comp.OS.GEOS is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the
GEOS operating system and related products from GeoWorks (Berkeley,
CA), their associated third-party development partners, and
independent software vendors.

GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented
graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatibles.

All topics related to GEOS are welcome on Comp.OS.GEOS.  These
include - but are not by any means limited to - GeoWorks Ensemble
1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office
Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games,
America Online, the forthcoming Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the
applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others,
configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and
"undocumented features," announcement and discussion of new
hardware and software products, and matters pertaining to
developing software for GEOS.

STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.os.geos
or
      I vote NO on comp.os.geos

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement
involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a
single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain"
vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".
Additional CFVs will include mass acks.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
account).  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
                     "iHaTeX." -- Andrew Burt

From jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Thu Aug 12 14:18:25 1993
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.os.geos
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                      CALL FOR VOTES (2nd of 3)
 
Unmoderated group comp.os.geos
 
Newsgroups line:        The GEOS operating system and related products

Votes must be recieved by 3 Sep 1993, 23:59 UT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only, contact jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu.  For questions about the proposed
group, contact Shag <birchall@pilot.njin.net>.


CHARTER

Comp.OS.GEOS is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the
GEOS operating system and related products from GeoWorks (Berkeley,
CA), their associated third-party development partners, and
independent software vendors.

GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented
graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatibles.

All topics related to GEOS are welcome on Comp.OS.GEOS.  These
include - but are not by any means limited to - GeoWorks Ensemble
1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office
Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games,
America Online, the forthcoming Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the
applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others,
configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and
"undocumented features," announcement and discussion of new
hardware and software products, and matters pertaining to
developing software for GEOS.

STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.os.geos
or
      I vote NO on comp.os.geos

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving
the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be
rejected by the automatic vote counting program. Please don't include a copy
of this whole message; I already have one, and it confuses the vote counting
program (since it includes both YES and NO votes on the group). If you later
change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain" vote in the same
manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no". Additional CFVs will
include mass acks. 

Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
account).  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
The standard mass ack follows. All of these folks, with the exception of
jmorris@darkstar.frop.org (who has a badly misconfigured mailer which entered
a routing loop when I tried), have been emailed an individual ack for their
vote as well.

comp.os.geos group vote Mass Ack
aaronw@netcom.com                                               Aaron Williams
ain@palm.com                                                    Ain McKendrick
al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx                      Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a
andrzej@bnr.ca                                          Andrzej (A.) Bieszczad
andy@vistachrome.com                                        Andrew Finkenstadt
BAILEY%SSDVAX.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com                             SSDVAX::BAILEY
ballou@oberon.com                                            Kenneth R. Ballou
baumgart@centauri.uta.edu                                     Joey Baumgartner
beast@netcom.com                                                  J. Kintscher
bennec@rpi.edu                                           Craig Leonard Bennett
benningf@aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com                         Robert F. Benningfield
birchall@pilot.njin.net                                                   Shag
bj@herbison.com                                                  B.J. Herbison
bongo!skyld.tele.com!jangus@netcom.com                        Jeffrey D. Angus
bruce-f%aci1.aci.ns.ca@fox.nstn.ns.ca                                         
bruno1@cc.bellcore.com                                          bruno,samuel p
bsc835!ehunt@uunet.UU.NET                                            Eric Hunt
chris@locomotive.com                                                Chris Hall
chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com                                    Chuck Musciano
chungl@postgres.Berkeley.EDU                                         Chung Liu
colletjr@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu                                 The Analog Kid
crash@iastate.edu                                                             
davisb@indirect.com                                                Bruce Davis
dbeck@UMDNJ.EDU                                                     David Beck
dlee@CS.UCLA.EDU                                                     David Lee
dsun@njsvdnjtrn.er.usgs.GOV                                      Dennis K. Sun
emcguire@intellection.com                                           Ed McGuire
fadickey@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU                                     Fred A Dickey
fritzson@VFL.Paramax.COM                                                      
fsbrn@BRL.MIL                                                                 
gghose@CEPHALO.NEUSC.BCM.TMC.EDU                             Geoffrey M. Ghose
gilem@rpi.edu                                                                 
gl8f@fermi.clas.virginia.edu                                      Greg Lindahl
glenm@ephor.tusc.oz.au                                                        
glreno@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                          Gerald Reno
gnd@idaho.amdahl.com                                              Greg Darnell
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu                                      Brennan T. Price
gtd205a@prism.gatech.edu                                                      
gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                                        
harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz                                                   
hassan%physio%cvm@vetmed.cvm.uiuc.edu                             Aslam Hassan
hirsch@mathcs.emory.edu                                         Michael Hirsch
jaegerwl@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu                                    Bill Jaeger
James_A_Landay@GEM.GARNET.CS.CMU.EDU                                          
jcl@bdrc.bd.com                                                  John C. Lusth
jeff@eng.umd.edu                                                  Jeffrey Frey
jeffo@internic.net                                                   Jeff Odum
jhan@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca                                     Jerry Han
jim@earth.accelr8.com                                                Jim Reiss
jlarue@csn.org                                                     James LaRue
jmorris@darkstar.frop.org                                           Jim Morris
johnm@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU                                  John D. Mitchell
jph19@columbia.edu                                              Josh P Hendrix
junck@okra.fnal.gov                                                Kevin Junck
jyang@eoc.com                                                         Jun Yang
kilpatds@logic.camp.clarkson.edu                                         Hawke
knapp@sun490.fdu.edu                                               Ralph Knapp
kulpp2@rpi.edu                                                                
leahy@math.rutgers.edu                                            Andrew Leahy
mdouglas@netcom.com                                                   Hokh'Ton
MJFORRES@suvm.acs.syr.EDU                                              maurice
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
muir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us                                  David Muir Sharnoff
mullin@selway.umt.edu                                     Christopher G Mullin
naren@tekig1.pen.tek.com                                            Naren Bala
p-hurley1@tamu.edu                                               Philip Hurley
payson@cs.wisc.edu                                                      Payson
pbf@inoms.bellcore.com                                           Phil Franklin
pcurley@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU                                   Patrick T Curley
phoffman@netcom.com                                            Paul E. Hoffman
pseudo!mjn                                                      Murray Nesbitt
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael J. Quinn
Richard@locosoft.demon.co.uk                                   Richard Clayton
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu                                 Richard H. Miller
rickm@pdn.paradyne.com                                          Rick Mundwiler
rking@auspex.com                                                  Richard King
ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com                                         Ron Boerger
rpz@empros.com                                                     Rob Zachman
rtomasso@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com                     Richard Tomasso x3061
rturner@ruacad.ac.runet.edu                                                   
sashah@unx.sas.com                                              Howard Houston
simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                        Donald Simard
slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca                                                        
smarry@io.org                                               Smarasderagd Draco
smithh@grace.rt.cs.boeing.com                                     Lonnie Smith
smustain@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                               Mike Mustaine
solovay@netcom.com                                              Andrew Solovay
srj@key.amdahl.com                                            Scott R. Johnson
srogers@tad.eds.com                                               Steve Rogers
Stephen.Piner@comp.vuw.ac.nz                                       Steve Piner
stewart.willsher@lon40.nt.com                                 Stewart Willsher
ted@lick.UCSC.EDU                                                 Ted Cantrall
thomas_haberland@solaris.oche.de                              THOMAS HABERLAND
twigg@aurora.gsfc.nasa.gov                                         Larry Twigg
U51773@UICVM.UIC.EDU                                          tom mckibben 2  
U53913@UICVM.UIC.EDU                                               Greg Shymko
wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu                                       Richard Wagner
wagnermi@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                              Wagner Michael
wardb@scico1.chchp.ac.nz                                            Bruce Ward
wcs0830@usl.edu                                               Segura William C
wendysue@holonet.net                                   Wendy S. Reynolds-Abate
wilhelm@infoserv.com                                        John MacWilliamson
wwhitman@nevada.edu                                               MICHAEL WISE
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
     "Doesn't the sound of two Telebits synchronizing remind you of
             a cat tossing up a fur ball?" -- Jan Isley

From jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Tue Aug 24 17:15:02 1993
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
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Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.os.geos
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                      CALL FOR VOTES (3rd of 3)
 
Unmoderated group comp.os.geos
 
Newsgroups line:        The GEOS operating system and related products

Votes must be recieved by 3 Sep 1993, 23:59 UT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only, contact jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu.  For questions about the proposed
group, contact Shag <birchall@pilot.njin.net>.


CHARTER

Comp.OS.GEOS is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the
GEOS operating system and related products from GeoWorks (Berkeley,
CA), their associated third-party development partners, and
independent software vendors.

GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented
graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatibles.

All topics related to GEOS are welcome on Comp.OS.GEOS.  These
include - but are not by any means limited to - GeoWorks Ensemble
1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office
Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games,
America Online, the forthcoming Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the
applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others,
configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and
"undocumented features," announcement and discussion of new
hardware and software products, and matters pertaining to
developing software for GEOS.

STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work).  Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.os.geos
or
      I vote NO on comp.os.geos

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving
the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be
rejected by the automatic vote counting program. Please don't include a copy
of this whole message; I already have one, and it confuses the vote counting
program (since it includes both YES and NO votes on the group). If you later
change your mind you may also send in an "abstain" vote in the same manner,
using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no". Additional CFVs will include mass
acks.  

Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
account).  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.

Valid votes from the following people have been received as of midnight UTC,
23 August 1993:
comp.os.geos group vote Mass Ack
aaronw@netcom.com                                               Aaron Williams
ain@palm.com                                                    Ain McKendrick
al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx                      Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a
andrzej@bnr.ca                                          Andrzej (A.) Bieszczad
andy@vistachrome.com                                        Andrew Finkenstadt
ashers@rpi.edu                                                                
BAILEY%SSDVAX.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com                             SSDVAX::BAILEY
baker@spk.hp.com                                                    Bill Baker
ballou@oberon.com                                            Kenneth R. Ballou
baumgart@centauri.uta.edu                                     Joey Baumgartner
beast@netcom.com                                                  J. Kintscher
bennec@rpi.edu                                           Craig Leonard Bennett
benningf@aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com                         Robert F. Benningfield
birchall@pilot.njin.net                                                   Shag
bj@herbison.com                                                  B.J. Herbison
bruce-f%aci1.aci.ns.ca@fox.nstn.ns.ca                                         
bruno1@cc.bellcore.com                                          bruno,samuel p
bsc835!ehunt@uunet.UU.NET                                            Eric Hunt
bsw!dloft@uunet.UU.NET                                        David Loftesness
bsw!ron@uunet.UU.NET                                         Ronald Braunstein
bull@noao.edu                                             Frank Bull/Gemini 8m
Burrows_AC@cc.curtin.edu.au                                                   
carddoc@aol.com                                                               
chris@locomotive.com                                                Chris Hall
christof@world.std.com                                 Christopher JeanRichard
chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com                                    Chuck Musciano
chungl@postgres.Berkeley.EDU                                         Chung Liu
clar27@ccsun.strath.ac.uk                                           j.forssell
colletjr@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu                                 The Analog Kid
crash@iastate.edu                                                             
crimson@WPI.EDU                                                Joseph Z. Provo
cshepher@cs.indiana.edu                                         Chuck Shepherd
cyj9h@honi5.acc.virginia.edu                                 Charles Yong Choi
Dave.Chalmers@Dundee.NCR.COM                                     Dave Chalmers
davisb@indirect.com                                                Bruce Davis
dbeck@UMDNJ.EDU                                                     David Beck
dg@sybase.com                                                      David Gould
dlee@CS.UCLA.EDU                                                     David Lee
DLN4300%TAMZEUS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu                                       
douglis@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM                               Fred Douglis
dsun@njsvdnjtrn.er.usgs.GOV                                      Dennis K. Sun
duboisr@nicco.sscnet.ucla.edu                                   Renard Du Bois
ecox@tulsix.utulsa.edu                                                  Ed Cox
emcguire@intellection.com                                           Ed McGuire
fadickey@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU                                     Fred A Dickey
fritzson@VFL.Paramax.COM                                                      
fsbrn@BRL.MIL                                                                 
FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu                                        Hardcore Alaskan
gghose@CEPHALO.NEUSC.BCM.TMC.EDU                             Geoffrey M. Ghose
gilem@rpi.edu                                                                 
gl8f@fermi.clas.virginia.edu                                      Greg Lindahl
glenm@ephor.tusc.oz.au                                                        
glreno@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                          Gerald Reno
gnd@idaho.amdahl.com                                              Greg Darnell
goo@cwis.unomaha.edu                                                Kent Radek
gspear+@CMU.EDU                                                 Geoffrey Spear
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu                                      Brennan T. Price
gtd205a@prism.gatech.edu                                                      
gwrepdoug@aol.com                                                             
gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                                        
halvorsen@medics.jsc.nasa.gov                                 Lars S Halvorsen
harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz                                                   
hassan%physio%cvm@vetmed.cvm.uiuc.edu                             Aslam Hassan
hirsch@mathcs.emory.edu                                         Michael Hirsch
imjerry@aol.com                                                               
ivo@remarque.berkeley.edu                                                     
jaegerwl@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu                                    Bill Jaeger
James_A_Landay@GEM.GARNET.CS.CMU.EDU                                          
jangus@skyld.tele.com                                         Jeffrey D. Angus
jbarr@genesis.mcs.com                                            James W. Barr
jcl@bdrc.bd.com                                                  John C. Lusth
jeff@eng.umd.edu                                                  Jeffrey Frey
jeffo@internic.net                                                   Jeff Odum
jfortt@dorsai.dorsai.org                                                      
jhan@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca                                     Jerry Han
jim@earth.accelr8.com                                                Jim Reiss
jlarue@csn.org                                                     James LaRue
jmorris@darkstar.frop.org                                           Jim Morris
johnm@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU                                  John D. Mitchell
josh@bvsd.k12.co.us                                          Joshua R. Prismon
jph19@columbia.edu                                              Josh P Hendrix
jrb@rsitex.com                                                   John Boardman
julian@bongo.tele.com                                          Julian Macassey
junck@okra.fnal.gov                                                Kevin Junck
jyang@eoc.com                                                         Jun Yang
kcaputa@sirius.UVic.CA                                            Kris  Caputa
kevind3145@aol.com                                                            
kilpatds@logic.camp.clarkson.edu                                         Hawke
knapp@sun490.fdu.edu                                               Ralph Knapp
kulpp2@rpi.edu                                                                
leahy@math.rutgers.edu                                            Andrew Leahy
luetzm@rpi.edu                                              Mark Luetzelschwab
malcolm@ccrwest.org                                         Malcolm Williamson
Marc@VAX.CSUN.Edu                                                             
mdouglas@netcom.com                                                   Hokh'Ton
merk!uvmark!todd                                                   Todd Cooper
mishel@lyra.hac.com                                    Mishel Matloubian x6015
MJFORRES@suvm.acs.syr.EDU                                              maurice
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
mpal@cs.rice.edu                                              Michael Paleczny
muir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us                                  David Muir Sharnoff
mullin@selway.umt.edu                                     Christopher G Mullin
muysers@capsogeti.fr                                              Dirk Muysers
mwelk@cs.tu-berlin.de                                            Matthias Welk
naren@tekig1.pen.tek.com                                            Naren Bala
p-hurley1@tamu.edu                                               Philip Hurley
parke@uselss.enet.dec.com                                           Bill Parke
pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                                                 Pat Berry
payson@cs.wisc.edu                                                      Payson
pbf@inoms.bellcore.com                                           Phil Franklin
pcurley@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU                                   Patrick T Curley
phoffman@netcom.com                                            Paul E. Hoffman
politico96@aol.com                                                            
pseudo!mjn                                                      Murray Nesbitt
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael J. Quinn
raffuj@rpi.edu                                                                
Richard@locosoft.demon.co.uk                                   Richard Clayton
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu                                 Richard H. Miller
rickm@pdn.paradyne.com                                          Rick Mundwiler
rking@auspex.com                                                  Richard King
roger@palm.com                                                    Roger Flores
ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com                                         Ron Boerger
rpz@empros.com                                                     Rob Zachman
rtomasso@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com                     Richard Tomasso x3061
rturner@ruacad.ac.runet.edu                                                   
russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca                             Russell Schulz
sasbmt@unx.sas.com                                               Bruce Tindall
sashah@unx.sas.com                                              Howard Houston
shizgal@cpsc.ucalgary.ca                                         Irvin Shizgal
simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                        Donald Simard
slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca                                                        
smarry@io.org                                               Smarasderagd Draco
smithh@grace.rt.cs.boeing.com                                     Lonnie Smith
smustain@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                               Mike Mustaine
solovay@netcom.com                                              Andrew Solovay
sramming@Athena.MIT.EDU                                                       
srj@key.amdahl.com                                            Scott R. Johnson
srogers@tad.eds.com                                               Steve Rogers
Stephen.Piner@comp.vuw.ac.nz                                       Steve Piner
stewart.willsher@lon40.nt.com                                 Stewart Willsher
sven@cs.widener.edu                                           Sven M. Heinicke
taperwood@aol.com                                                             
ted@lick.UCSC.EDU                                                 Ted Cantrall
thanatos@hyperion.wright.edu                                     Terry Chlebek
thomas_haberland@solaris.oche.de                              THOMAS HABERLAND
twigg@aurora.gsfc.nasa.gov                                         Larry Twigg
tyler@il.us.swissbank.com                                       Tyler Gingrich
U51773@UICVM.UIC.EDU                                          tom mckibben 2  
U53913@UICVM.UIC.EDU                                               Greg Shymko
wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu                                       Richard Wagner
wagnermi@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                              Wagner Michael
wardb@scico1.chchp.ac.nz                                            Bruce Ward
wayne@bgs.com                                                     Wayne Garmil
wcs0830@usl.edu                                               Segura William C
wendysue@holonet.net                                   Wendy S. Reynolds-Abate
wilhelm@infoserv.com                                        John MacWilliamson
wilson@hsi.com                                                     John Wilson
wwhitman@nevada.edu                                               MICHAEL WISE
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From jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu Wed Sep  8 19:42:51 1993
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Subject: RESULT: comp.os.geos passes 180:33
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comp.os.geos group vote results - 214 votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 180   33 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.os.geos

 
Newsgroups line:        The GEOS operating system and related products

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only,
contact jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu.  For questions about the group, contact
Shag <birchall@pilot.njin.net>. 


CHARTER

Comp.OS.GEOS is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the
GEOS operating system and related products from GeoWorks (Berkeley,
CA), their associated third-party development partners, and
independent software vendors.

GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented
graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatibles.

All topics related to GEOS are welcome on Comp.OS.GEOS.  These
include - but are not by any means limited to - GeoWorks Ensemble
1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, GeoWorks Pro, the GeoWorks Personal Office
Series, GeoWorks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games,
America Online, the forthcoming Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the
applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others,
configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and
"undocumented features," announcement and discussion of new
hardware and software products, and matters pertaining to
developing software for GEOS.

comp.os.geos group vote Final Vote Ack


Yes Votes
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aa284@freenet.buffalo.edu                                    Matthew W. Bartle
aaronw@netcom.com                                               Aaron Williams
ain@palm.com                                                    Ain McKendrick
al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx                      Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a
andrzej@bnr.ca                                          Andrzej (A.) Bieszczad
anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu                                     Anthony J Stieber
ashers@rpi.edu                                                                
BAILEY%SSDVAX.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com                             SSDVAX::BAILEY
baker@spk.hp.com                                                    Bill Baker
ballou@oberon.com                                            Kenneth R. Ballou
BATCHELOR@NSSDCA.GSFC.NASA.GOV    Dave Batchelor, Space Phys. Data Facil. 301/
baumgart@centauri.uta.edu                                     Joey Baumgartner
beast@netcom.com                                                  J. Kintscher
bennec@rpi.edu                                           Craig Leonard Bennett
benningf@aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com                         Robert F. Benningfield
bh336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                 Nicholas O. Lindan
birchall@pilot.njin.net                                                   Shag
bj@herbison.com                                                  B.J. Herbison
bmoon@eis.calstate.edu                                           Bruce A. Moon
bruce-f%aci1.aci.ns.ca@fox.nstn.ns.ca                                         
bruno1@cc.bellcore.com                                          bruno,samuel p
bsc835!ehunt@uunet.UU.NET                                            Eric Hunt
bsw!bchow@uunet.UU.NET                                              Bryan Chow
bsw!dloft@uunet.UU.NET                                        David Loftesness
bsw!ron@uunet.UU.NET                                         Ronald Braunstein
Burrows_AC@cc.curtin.edu.au                                                   
carddoc@aol.com                                                               
catlin@cs.colostate.edu                                           brian catlin
chas@hplb.hpl.hp.com                                           Charlie Solomon
cheese@hope.win.net                                             Chee Woo Leong
chris@locomotive.com                                                Chris Hall
christof@world.std.com                                 Christopher JeanRichard
chuahl@uclink.berkeley.edu                                       Chua Hak Lien
chuck@trantor.harris-atd.com                                    Chuck Musciano
chungl@postgres.Berkeley.EDU                                         Chung Liu
CKELTS@media.utah.edu                                              Corey Kelts
clar27@ccsun.strath.ac.uk                                           j.forssell
clemensko@aol.com                                                             
colletjr@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu                                 The Analog Kid
crash@iastate.edu                                                             
cs6t+@andrew.cmu.edu                                  Calvin D. Swartzentruber
cshepher@cs.indiana.edu                                         Chuck Shepherd
cyj9h@honi5.acc.virginia.edu                                 Charles Yong Choi
Dave.Chalmers@Dundee.NCR.COM                                     Dave Chalmers
davev@bnr.ca                                           David (D.J.) Villeneuve
davisb@indirect.com                                                Bruce Davis
dbeck@UMDNJ.EDU                                                     David Beck
deane@netcom.com                                                  Dean Edwards
dg@sybase.com                                                      David Gould
dgn1@Ra.MsState.Edu                                                Dale Newton
dlee@CS.UCLA.EDU                                                     David Lee
DLN4300%TAMZEUS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu                                       
douglis@MITL.Research.Panasonic.COM                               Fred Douglis
drakonar@fubar.cs.montana.edu                           Charles L. Stewart III
dshields@mace.cc.purdue.edu                                    douglas shields
dsun@njsvdnjtrn.er.usgs.GOV                                      Dennis K. Sun
duboisr@nicco.sscnet.ucla.edu                                   Renard Du Bois
dumler@minerva.cis.yale.edu                              Christopher M. Dumler
ecox@tulsix.utulsa.edu                                                  Ed Cox
fadickey@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU                                     Fred A Dickey
fritzson@VFL.Paramax.COM                                                      
fsbrn@BRL.MIL                                                                 
FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu                                        Hardcore Alaskan
garmilw@aspen.uml.edu                                                         
gconerly@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu                                  Gregory Conerly
gghose@CEPHALO.NEUSC.BCM.TMC.EDU                             Geoffrey M. Ghose
gideon@farli.otago.ac.nz                                           Gideon King
gilem@rpi.edu                                                                 
glenm@ephor.tusc.oz.au                                                        
glreno@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                          Gerald Reno
gnd@idaho.amdahl.com                                              Greg Darnell
gtd205a@prism.gatech.edu                                                      
gwrepdoug@aol.com                                                             
gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                                        
halvorsen@medics.jsc.nasa.gov                                 Lars S Halvorsen
harvey_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz                                                   
hassan%physio%cvm@vetmed.cvm.uiuc.edu                             Aslam Hassan
Herman.Yan@f28.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG                                  Herman Yan
hirsch@mathcs.emory.edu                                         Michael Hirsch
hunter@kaleida.com                                                 Kurt Hunter
imjerry@aol.com                                                               
ivo@remarque.berkeley.edu                                                     
jaegerwl@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu                                    Bill Jaeger
James_A_Landay@GEM.GARNET.CS.CMU.EDU                                          
jbarr@genesis.mcs.com                                            James W. Barr
jcl@bdrc.bd.com                                                  John C. Lusth
jeff@eng.umd.edu                                                  Jeffrey Frey
jeffo@internic.net                                                   Jeff Odum
jfortt@dorsai.dorsai.org                                                      
jhan@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca                                     Jerry Han
jim@earth.accelr8.com                                                Jim Reiss
jking@NMSU.Edu                                                                
jlarue@csn.org                                                     James LaRue
jmorris@dudley.rastek.com                                           Jim Morris
johncomish@aol.com                                                            
johnm@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU                                  John D. Mitchell
jones_dr@gold.colorado.edu                                        Daniel Jones
josh@bvsd.k12.co.us                                          Joshua R. Prismon
jph19@columbia.edu                                              Josh P Hendrix
jrb@rsitex.com                                                   John Boardman
jyang@eoc.com                                                         Jun Yang
k.jacob@genie.geis.com                                                        
kcaputa@sirius.UVic.CA                                            Kris  Caputa
kevind3145@aol.com                                                            
kilpatds@logic.camp.clarkson.edu                                         Hawke
knapp@sun490.fdu.edu                                               Ralph Knapp
kulpp2@rpi.edu                                                                
leahy@math.rutgers.edu                                            Andrew Leahy
luetzm@rpi.edu                                              Mark Luetzelschwab
malcolm@ccrwest.org                                         Malcolm Williamson
Marc@VAX.CSUN.Edu                                                             
mdmcdo01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu                          Mark D. McDonald
mdouglas@netcom.com                                                   Hokh'Ton
merk!uvmark!todd                                                   Todd Cooper
mishel@lyra.hac.com                                    Mishel Matloubian x6015
MJFORRES@suvm.acs.syr.EDU                                              maurice
mpal@cs.rice.edu                                              Michael Paleczny
mpb8r@faraday.clas.virginia.edu                              Mark Philip Barry
muir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us                                  David Muir Sharnoff
mullin@selway.umt.edu                                     Christopher G Mullin
muysers@capsogeti.fr                                              Dirk Muysers
mwelk@cs.tu-berlin.de                                            Matthias Welk
p-hurley1@tamu.edu                                               Philip Hurley
parke@uselss.enet.dec.com                                           Bill Parke
paschalv@aol.com                                                              
pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                                                 Pat Berry
payson@cs.wisc.edu                                                      Payson
pbf@inoms.bellcore.com                                           Phil Franklin
pcurley@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU                                   Patrick T Curley
peed@ivory.rtsg.mot.com                                            Andrew Peed
phoffman@netcom.com                                            Paul E. Hoffman
politico96@aol.com                                                            
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael J. Quinn
raffuj@rpi.edu                                                                
Richard@locosoft.demon.co.uk                                   Richard Clayton
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu                                 Richard H. Miller
rickm@pdn.paradyne.com                                          Rick Mundwiler
RJR@pharmacy.wisc.edu                                         Ross J Reedstrom
rking@auspex.com                                                  Richard King
roger@palm.com                                                    Roger Flores
rpz@empros.com                                                     Rob Zachman
rtomasso@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com                     Richard Tomasso x3061
rturner@ruacad.ac.runet.edu                                                   
russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca                             Russell Schulz
sasbmt@unx.sas.com                                               Bruce Tindall
sashah@unx.sas.com                                              Howard Houston
shizgal@cpsc.ucalgary.ca                                         Irvin Shizgal
simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil                                        Donald Simard
slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca                                                        
smithh@grace.rt.cs.boeing.com                                     Lonnie Smith
smustain@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu                               Mike Mustaine
soneill@netaxs.com                                                            
srj@key.amdahl.com                                            Scott R. Johnson
Stephen.Piner@comp.vuw.ac.nz                                       Steve Piner
stewart.willsher@lon40.nt.com                                 Stewart Willsher
stoeckle@rzdspc4.informatik.uni-hamburg.de                   Michael Stoeckler
taperwood@aol.com                                                             
tas3976@tamuts.tamu.edu                                Todd Alexander Stauffer
ted@lick.UCSC.EDU                                                 Ted Cantrall
thanatos@hyperion.wright.edu                                     Terry Chlebek
thomas_haberland@solaris.oche.de                              THOMAS HABERLAND
timfair+@rchland.ibm.com                                    Timothy Fairclough
torrico@pencom.com                                            Thomas V Torrico
twigg@aurora.gsfc.nasa.gov                                         Larry Twigg
tyler@il.us.swissbank.com                                       Tyler Gingrich
U51773@UICVM.UIC.EDU                                          tom mckibben 2  
U53913@UICVM.UIC.EDU                                               Greg Shymko
u800435@Winkie.Oz.nthu.edu.tw                                                 
ud686@freenet.victoria.bc.ca                                         Wayne Lun
vlue@Cadence.COM                                                   Vincent Lue
vogt@SSD.intel.com                                                  Larry Vogt
wagnermi@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                              Wagner Michael
wardb@scico1.chchp.ac.nz                                            Bruce Ward
wayne@bgs.com                                                     Wayne Garmil
wcs0830@usl.edu                                               Segura William C
wendysue@holonet.net                                   Wendy S. Reynolds-Abate
wfsmith@CS.UCLA.EDU                                           William F. Smith
wgarmil@world.std.com                                           Wayne S Garmil
wilson@hsi.com                                                     John Wilson
wwhitman@nevada.edu                                               MICHAEL WISE

No Votes
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andy@vistachrome.com                                        Andrew Finkenstadt
bull@noao.edu                                             Frank Bull/Gemini 8m
cheah@cs.columbia.edu                                            Po Shan Cheah
crimson@WPI.EDU                                                Joseph Z. Provo
dmarcher@acsu.buffalo.edu                                          Dave Archer
emcguire@intellection.com                                           Ed McGuire
goo@cwis.unomaha.edu                                                Kent Radek
gspear+@CMU.EDU                                                 Geoffrey Spear
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu                                      Brennan T. Price
hansenr@ohsu.EDU                                                              
jangus@skyld.tele.com                                         Jeffrey D. Angus
julian@bongo.tele.com                                          Julian Macassey
junck@okra.fnal.gov                                                Kevin Junck
maxwell@ug.cs.dal.ca                                             Chris Maxwell
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
naren@tekig1.pen.tek.com                                            Naren Bala
pseudo!mjn                                                      Murray Nesbitt
revu@midway.uchicago.edu                        Sendhil "Mr. Bubbles" Revuluri
rf@fil.fido.de                                                    Rudi Ferrari
richi@hpopdlct.pwd.hp.com                                     Richard Jennings
ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com                                         Ron Boerger
ryan.bayne@canrem.com                                               Ryan Bayne
SAB139@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                                                          
shane@spr.com                                                    Shane Hartman
smarry@io.org                                               Smarasderagd Draco
solovay@netcom.com                                              Andrew Solovay
sramming@Athena.MIT.EDU                                                       
srogers@tad.eds.com                                               Steve Rogers
sven@cs.widener.edu                                           Sven M. Heinicke
tes6@po.cwru.edu                                             Todd E. Sternisha
wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu                                       Richard Wagner
wilhelm@infoserv.com                                        John MacWilliamson
ykhan@gandalf.ca                                                   Yousuf Khan
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