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From [email protected] Fri Apr 14 17:44:02 1995
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From: [email protected] (J. Eric Townsend)
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Subject: RFD: comp.os.magic-cap
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REQUEST FOR  DISCUSSION (RFD)
=============================

Newsgroup    : comp.os.magic-cap
Status       : unmoderated
Distribution : world-wide
Summary      : Discussion of the Magic Cap operating system
Proposers    : [email protected]

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of the newsgroups
comp.os.magic-cap.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation. Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs. The RFD is
being cross-posted to the following relevant news groups :

news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen

NOTE : Follow ups are defined to ensure that further discussion takes place in
news.groups only. Please watch this group if you are interested in the ensuing
 discussion.

CHARTER

The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
subjects (programming, user experiences, rants) related to the Magic
Cap operating system from General Magic.  This would include the
topics:

* Generation/Posting/Support of a FAQ for Magic Cap.

* Discussion of Magic Cap third party hardware and software.

* Comparison between hardware platforms supporting the Magic Cap OS.

* Trading of tips for using Magic Cap on travel or in foreign countries.


RATIONALE

There are many systems available that can run the Magic Cap operating
system.  Sony and Motorola are both selling Magic Cap based personal
communicators. General Magic has announced the Magic Cap for Windows
product that provide MS Windows users with a Magic Cap platform.
Matsushita and others have announced plans to use Magic Cap as a base
operating system for personal communicators.  Many of the users and
developers (and potential users and developers) for these systems also
use the Internet as a means of communication and have been cobbling
together mailing lists and WWW servers.  The comp.os.magic-cap
newsgroup would reach a much broader audience and provide a better
forum for discussion than the loose collection of resources.


PROCEDURE

Please post any response to this message to news.groups. If you use the
followup feature on your newsreader, this should happen automatically. It is
important to understand that all discussions about the merits of this proposal
should occur on news.groups only.

-- 
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From [email protected] Mon May 15 18:18:48 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.newton.misc
Subject: CFV: comp.os.magic-cap
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Date: 15 May 1995 13:25:18 -0400
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                     unmoderated group comp.os.magic-cap

Newsgroups line:
comp.os.magic-cap	Everything about General Magic's Magic Cap OS.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact J. Eric Townsend
<[email protected]>.

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV will be cross posted to:
	comp.sys.handhelds
	comp.sys.palmtops
	comp.sys.pen
	comp.sys.newton.misc
and EMailed to:
	[email protected]
	[email protected]

CHARTER

The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
subjects (programming, user experiences, rants) related to the Magic
Cap operating system from General Magic.  This would include the
topics:
* Generation/Posting/Support of a FAQ for Magic Cap.

* Discussion of Magic Cap third party hardware and software.

* Comparison between hardware platforms supporting the Magic Cap OS.

* Trading of tips for using Magic Cap on travel or in foreign countries.

RATIONALE

There are many systems available that can run the Magic Cap operating
system.  Sony and Motorola are both selling Magic Cap based personal
communicators. General Magic has announced the Magic Cap for Windows
product that provide MS Windows users with a Magic Cap platform.
Matsushita and others have announced plans to use Magic Cap as a base
operating system for personal communicators.  Many of the users and
developers (and potential users and developers) for these systems also
use the Internet as a means of communication and have been cobbling
together mailing lists and WWW servers.  The comp.os.magic-cap
newsgroup would reach a much broader audience and provide a better
forum for discussion than the loose collection of resources.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following
statements.  DO NOT QUOTE THIS CFV IN YOUR VOTE.
      I vote YES on comp.os.magic-cap
      I vote NO on comp.os.magic-cap
      I vote ABSTAIN on comp.os.magic-cap
      I CANCEL my vote on comp.os.magic-cap

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Mon May 29 22:35:15 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.newton.misc
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.magic-cap
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 28 May 1995 19:16:15 -0400
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                     unmoderated group comp.os.magic-cap

Newsgroups line:
comp.os.magic-cap	Everything about General Magic's Magic Cap OS.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 5 June 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact J. Eric Townsend
<[email protected]>.

DISTRIBUTION

This CFV will be cross posted to:
	comp.sys.handhelds
	comp.sys.palmtops
	comp.sys.pen
	comp.sys.newton.misc
and EMailed to:
	[email protected]
	[email protected]

CHARTER

The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
subjects (programming, user experiences, rants) related to the Magic
Cap operating system from General Magic.  This would include the
topics:
* Generation/Posting/Support of a FAQ for Magic Cap.

* Discussion of Magic Cap third party hardware and software.

* Comparison between hardware platforms supporting the Magic Cap OS.

* Trading of tips for using Magic Cap on travel or in foreign countries.

RATIONALE

There are many systems available that can run the Magic Cap operating
system.  Sony and Motorola are both selling Magic Cap based personal
communicators. General Magic has announced the Magic Cap for Windows
product that provide MS Windows users with a Magic Cap platform.
Matsushita and others have announced plans to use Magic Cap as a base
operating system for personal communicators.  Many of the users and
developers (and potential users and developers) for these systems also
use the Internet as a means of communication and have been cobbling
together mailing lists and WWW servers.  The comp.os.magic-cap
newsgroup would reach a much broader audience and provide a better
forum for discussion than the loose collection of resources.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain *one* and only one of the following
statements.  DO NOT QUOTE THIS CFV IN YOUR VOTE.
      I vote YES on comp.os.magic-cap
      I vote NO on comp.os.magic-cap
      I vote ABSTAIN on comp.os.magic-cap
      I CANCEL my vote on comp.os.magic-cap

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Tue Jun  6 18:47:02 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.newton.misc
Subject: RESULT: comp.os.magic-cap passes 179:21
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                                RESULT
          unmoderated group comp.os.magic-cap passes 179:21

There were 179 YES votes and 21 NO votes, for a total of 200 valid votes.
There were 3 abstains and 1 invalid ballot.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

  comp.os.magic-cap passed on Thu May 18 17:46:16 1995

Newsgroups line:
comp.os.magic-cap	Everything about General Magic's Magic Cap OS.

This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>. For questions
about the proposed group contact J. Eric Townsend <[email protected]>.

CHARTER

The comp.os.magic-cap newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
subjects (programming, user experiences, rants) related to the Magic
Cap operating system from General Magic.  This would include the
topics:
* Generation/Posting/Support of a FAQ for Magic Cap.

* Discussion of Magic Cap third party hardware and software.

* Comparison between hardware platforms supporting the Magic Cap OS.

* Trading of tips for using Magic Cap on travel or in foreign countries.

[This collection of addresses is (C)1995 by Consultix Computer Services.
Permission is strictly NOT given to use this list or any part thereof to
make a mailing list, or for mass-mailings.  Any other use is fine.]
comp.os.magic-cap Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                              Leene, A.
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[email protected]                                                Scott R. Cadle
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Voted No
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[email protected]                                             Ananda M. Kar
[email protected]                                                        Steve Mann
[email protected]                                               Michiel Wijers
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                             Frank McConnell
[email protected]                                                Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                           Jim Poston
[email protected]                                                    John Vittal
[email protected]                                               Hasnain Khan
[email protected]                                              Kim DeVaughn
[email protected]                                                 Marcus Breiing
[email protected]                                           Patrick J. LoPresti
[email protected]                                              Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                               Ryan Waldron
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                        Lee Sobier
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
WFCB/WFCB1/HeringerMR%[email protected]    Heringer, Mark R
[email protected]                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
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[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                          M Mike Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                                  M. Otto


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                                   Creighton Hoke
   ! Conflicting votes

 
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