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From brian@king.csd.mot.com Sat Apr  4 02:33:40 1992
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Subject: RFD:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
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This is a request for discussion of a proposed unmoderated newsgroup
titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".  Please note that this is *not* a call for
votes.  After one month's discussion period, a call for votes will be issued.
Please make sure that your discussion is directed to news.groups.


PROPOSED NAME:    comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
 
PROPOSED CHARTER:

  To discuss and share information about:

    - GeoWorks PC/GEOS and PC/GEOS-based products, including
      but not limited to Ensemble, Pro, Personal Office System,
      and the PC/GEOS software development kit.
                    
    - Other software that operates within the PC/GEOS
      environment.

    - Hardware/software compatibilities and incompatibilities
      pertaining to PC/GEOS.
   
    - Software development for the PC/GEOS environment.


PROPOSED STATUS:  Unmoderated
 
RATIONALE: 

  Subject
  -------
  PC/GEOS is an award-winning graphical environment for MSDOS-based
  personal computers.  It's origins are in the Berkeley SoftWorks
  (now called GeoWorks) GEOS products for Apple and Commodore computers.  
  PC/GEOS provides a Motif-like window environment and a true multitasking
  multithreaded kernel.  Unlike Microsoft Windows, PC/GEOS will run on
  as little as 512KB of memory, 3MB of disk space, MSDOS 2.0, a Hercules
  video adapter, and an 8088 processor.

  PC/GEOS fills a substantial niche by providing a windowing environment
  for those MSDOS-based computers which have limited capacity or performance
  (such as PC/XT's and low-end laptops, notebooks, and PC/AT's) that have
  been abandoned by the resource demands of Microsoft Windows and OS/2.  

  The GeoWorks Ensemble product integrates a set of productivity with
  the PC/GEOS operating environment.  In the GeoWorks Pro product,
  Borland's Quattro SE product is also integrated into the PC/GEOS
  environment.  The Personal Office System products are specific
  productivity tools.  Release of a software development kit is
  expected in 1992.

  Interest
  --------
  In December of 1991, a mailing list was created for discussion of the
  GeoWorks Ensemble product.  In only one month of operation, the list
  has grown to include over 90 subscribers from 10 countries.

  Newsgroup name
  --------------
  Several names have been considered.  They are discussed below, along with
  a recommendation.

  *.geoworks:

    Too vendor-specific.  The charter includes discussion of software produced
    by individuals and companies outside of the GeoWorks company.

  *.geos:

    Could be confused with the Apple and/or Commodore GEOS products.  The
    charter limits discussion to the PC/GEOS environment.

  *.ensemble:

    Too product-specific.  The charter includes discussion of other GeoWorks
    products (such as Pro) and non-GeoWorks products.

  *.pcgeos:

    This is proposed as the best choice.  It adequately describes the 
    intended environment, does not preclude new product package names
    from GeoWorks, and does not disclude non-GeoWorks products (any more
    than "*.msdos.*" discludes non-Microsoft products).

  Location in the newsgroup hierarchy
  -----------------------------------
  Several locations have been considered.  They are discussed below, along with
  a recommendation.

  comp.windows.pcgeos:

    This is consistent with comp.windows.ms and comp.windows.ms.programmer.
    However, PC/GEOS is more than a window system, and the proposed charter
    of the newsgroup includes discussion of the kernel and applications in
    addition to the window system itself. 

  comp.os.pcgeos:

    Even though PC/GEOS requires MSDOS underneath, it acts more like a
    complete operating system than an operating environment on top of MSDOS.
    Nonetheless, all of the other comp.os.* groups are standalone operating
    systems, and so PC/GEOS should probably not be located at this level.
 
  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:

    This is proposed as the best choice.  It is consistent with the
    existing newsgroup comp.os.msdos.desqview.  

From brian@king.csd.mot.com Sat Apr  4 02:44:51 1992
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Subject: 2nd RFD:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
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This is a second request for discussion of a proposed unmoderated newsgroup
titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".  The first request was posted on Jan. 6, 1992.

Please note that this is *not* a call for votes.  After one month's discussion
period (from the first CFD posting), a call for votes will be issued.  Please
make sure that your discussion is directed to news.groups.


PROPOSED NAME:    comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
 
PROPOSED CHARTER:

  To discuss and share information about:

    - GeoWorks PC/GEOS and PC/GEOS-based products, including
      but not limited to Ensemble, Pro, Personal Office System,
      and the PC/GEOS software development kit.
                    
    - Other software that operates within the PC/GEOS
      environment.

    - Hardware/software compatibilities and incompatibilities
      pertaining to PC/GEOS.
   
    - Software development for the PC/GEOS environment.


PROPOSED STATUS:  Unmoderated
 
RATIONALE: 

  Subject
  -------
  PC/GEOS is an award-winning graphical environment for MSDOS-based
  personal computers.  It's origins are in the Berkeley SoftWorks
  (now called GeoWorks) GEOS products for Apple and Commodore computers.  
  PC/GEOS provides a Motif-like window environment and a true multitasking
  multithreaded kernel.  Unlike Microsoft Windows, PC/GEOS will run on
  as little as 512KB of memory, 3MB of disk space, MSDOS 2.0, a Hercules
  video adapter, and an 8088 processor.

  PC/GEOS fills a substantial niche by providing a windowing environment
  for those MSDOS-based computers which have limited capacity or performance
  (such as PC/XT's and low-end laptops, notebooks, and PC/AT's) that have
  been abandoned by the resource demands of Microsoft Windows and OS/2.  

  The GeoWorks Ensemble product integrates a set of productivity with
  the PC/GEOS operating environment.  In the GeoWorks Pro product,
  Borland's Quattro SE product is also integrated into the PC/GEOS
  environment.  The Personal Office System products are specific
  productivity tools.  Release of a software development kit is
  expected in 1992.

  Interest
  --------
  In December of 1991, a mailing list was created for discussion of the
  GeoWorks Ensemble product.  In only one month of operation, the list
  has grown to include over 90 subscribers from 10 countries.

  Newsgroup name
  --------------
  Several names have been considered.  They are discussed below, along with
  a recommendation.

  *.geoworks:

    Too vendor-specific.  The charter includes discussion of software produced
    by individuals and companies outside of the GeoWorks company.

  *.geos:

    Could be confused with the Apple and/or Commodore GEOS products.  The
    charter limits discussion to the PC/GEOS environment.

  *.ensemble:

    Too product-specific.  The charter includes discussion of other GeoWorks
    products (such as Pro) and non-GeoWorks products.

  *.pcgeos:

    This is proposed as the best choice.  It adequately describes the 
    intended environment, does not preclude new product package names
    from GeoWorks, and does not disclude non-GeoWorks products (any more
    than "*.msdos.*" discludes non-Microsoft products).

  Location in the newsgroup hierarchy
  -----------------------------------
  Several locations have been considered.  They are discussed below, along with
  a recommendation.

  comp.windows.pcgeos:

    This is consistent with comp.windows.ms and comp.windows.ms.programmer.
    However, PC/GEOS is more than a window system, and the proposed charter
    of the newsgroup includes discussion of the kernel and applications in
    addition to the window system itself. 

  comp.os.pcgeos:

    Even though PC/GEOS requires MSDOS underneath, it acts more like a
    complete operating system than an operating environment on top of MSDOS.
    Nonetheless, all of the other comp.os.* groups are standalone operating
    systems, and so PC/GEOS should probably not be located at this level.
 
  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:

    This is proposed as the best choice.  It is consistent with the
    existing newsgroup comp.os.msdos.desqview.  

DISCUSSION TO DATE:

  Discussion of this newsgroup proposal has not been exactly overwhelming.
  The only discussion I've seen has been a suggestion that the newsgroup
  be named "comp.os.msdos.geos", because the "pc" in "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos"
  was seen as being redundant.

  The only other comments I've received have been requests for information
  about subscription to the pcgeos mailing.  If you'd like to subscribe,
  send a request to pcgeos-list-request@csd.mot.com.

From brian@king.csd.mot.com Sat Apr  4 02:59:01 1992
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From: brian@king.csd.mot.com
Subject: CFV:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
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This is a call for votes on the creation of an unmoderated newsgroup
titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".  The proposal for this newsgroup has been
under discussion since January 6 1992, and nearly all comments have been
favorable.

A number of people suggested that the "pc" part of the proposed newsgroup
name was redundant in the context of "comp.os.msdos", but since the product
name is "PC/GEOS" and not simply "GEOS", the proposed name stands.  In fact,
there are no changes from the original proposal.


HOW TO VOTE:
------------

To vote YES, send e-mail to "pcgeos-yes@csd.mot.com" with a message to
the effect that "I vote yes on comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".

To vote NO, send e-mail to "pcgeos-no@csd.mot.com" with a message to
the effect that "I vote no on comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".

The traditional rules apply about multiple votes from one address.
(The latest received vote is the on that counts.)

If you have questions about or want to cancel your vote, you can send mail
to "pcgeos-vote@csd.mot.com".  Actual votes mailed to that address will
not be counted.


VOTING PERIOD:
--------------

The voting period will commence whenever this is posted by the moderator
of news.announce.newgroups, and will cease at 11:59 UTC, 10 March 1992.


WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON:
----------------------

NAME:    comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
 
CHARTER:

  To discuss and share information about:

    - GeoWorks PC/GEOS and PC/GEOS-based products, including
      but not limited to Ensemble, Pro, Personal Office System,
      and the PC/GEOS software development kit.
                    
    - Other software that operates within the PC/GEOS
      environment.

    - Hardware/software compatibilities and incompatibilities
      pertaining to PC/GEOS.
   
    - Software development for the PC/GEOS environment.


STATUS:  Unmoderated
 
RATIONALE: 

  PC/GEOS is an award-winning graphical environment for MSDOS-based
  personal computers.  It's origins are in the Berkeley SoftWorks
  (now called GeoWorks) GEOS products for Apple and Commodore computers.  
  PC/GEOS provides a Motif-like window environment and a true multitasking
  multithreaded kernel.  Unlike Microsoft Windows, PC/GEOS will run on
  as little as 512KB of memory, 3MB of disk space, MSDOS 2.0, a Hercules
  video adapter, and an 8088 processor.

  PC/GEOS fills a substantial niche by providing a windowing environment
  for those MSDOS-based computers which have limited capacity or performance
  (such as PC/XT's and low-end laptops, notebooks, and PC/AT's) that have
  been abandoned by the resource demands of Microsoft Windows and OS/2.  

  The GeoWorks Ensemble product integrates a set of productivity with
  the PC/GEOS operating environment.  In the GeoWorks Pro product,
  Borland's Quattro SE product is also integrated into the PC/GEOS
  environment.  The Personal Office System products are specific
  productivity tools.  Release of a software development kit is
  expected in 1992.

From brian@king.csd.mot.com Sat Apr  4 03:12:09 1992
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From: brian@king.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
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This is a second call for votes (and acknowledgement of votes to date)
for the creation of an unmoderated newsgroup titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".
The first call for votes was posted on February 10, 1992.  This second
call for votes is being posted a bit early because a number of people have
reported that they did not see the first CFV at their sites.


HOW TO VOTE:
------------

To vote YES, send e-mail to "pcgeos-yes@csd.mot.com" with a message to
the effect that "I vote yes on comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".

To vote NO, send e-mail to "pcgeos-no@csd.mot.com" with a message to
the effect that "I vote no on comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".

The traditional rules apply about multiple votes from one address.

If you have questions about or want to cancel your vote, you can send mail
to "pcgeos-vote@csd.mot.com".  Actual votes mailed to that address will
not be counted.


VOTING PERIOD:
--------------

The voting period commenced on February 10 and will cease on March 10.


WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON:
----------------------

NAME:    comp.os.msdos.pcgeos

CHARTER:

  To discuss and share information about:

    - GeoWorks PC/GEOS and PC/GEOS-based products, including
      but not limited to Ensemble, Pro, Personal Office System,
      and the PC/GEOS software development kit.
                    
    - Other software that operates within the PC/GEOS
      environment.

    - Hardware/software compatibilities and incompatibilities
      pertaining to PC/GEOS.
   
    - Software development for the PC/GEOS environment.


STATUS:  Unmoderated

RATIONALE: 

  PC/GEOS is an award-winning graphical environment for MSDOS-based
  personal computers.  It's origins are in the Berkeley SoftWorks
  (now called GeoWorks) GEOS products for Apple and Commodore computers.  
  PC/GEOS provides a Motif-like window environment and a true multitasking
  multithreaded kernel.  Unlike Microsoft Windows, PC/GEOS will run on
  as little as 512KB of memory, 3MB of disk space, MSDOS 2.0, a Hercules
  video adapter, and an 8088 processor.

  PC/GEOS fills a substantial niche by providing a windowing environment
  for those MSDOS-based computers which have limited capacity or performance
  (such as PC/XT's and low-end laptops, notebooks, and PC/AT's) that have
  been abandoned by the resource demands of Microsoft Windows and OS/2.  

  The GeoWorks Ensemble product integrates a set of productivity with
  the PC/GEOS operating environment.  In the GeoWorks Pro product,
  Borland's Quattro SE product is also integrated into the PC/GEOS
  environment.  The Personal Office System products are specific
  productivity tools.  Release of a software development kit is
  expected in 1992.


MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF VOTES RECEIVED
--------------------------------------

As of Wed Feb 19 13:44:20 PST 1992, votes have been received from the
following people:

96998239@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU (Ed Grether)
BOSELA@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Brian.Dawson@f3.n30707.z1.therose.fidonet.org (Brian Dawson)
CSDJR@uoft02.utoledo.edu (DONNA ROSTETTER -- 537-2803)
DAVEV@BNR.CA (David (D.) Villeneuve)
FAJD%NMUMUS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU ("Jim Drosen")
JULIUS@BTVLABVM.VNET.IBM.COM ("Julius C. Chang")
John.Burns@West.Sun.COM (John R. Burns - Sun Sacramento SE)
OZYMANDIAS@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU ("Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!")
SRGXNBS@gfv.dsir.govt.nz
S_ATHEN@irav1.ira.uka.de (JAMESON)
U51773@UICVM.UIC.EDU ("tom mckibben 2  ")
V078JXAG@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu ("TODD M. CARROZZI")
ZABOROWSKY_BENJAMIN_R@LILLY.COM (ZABOROWSKY BENJAMIN R)
adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
akm@cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal)
andrew@entropy.b23a.ingr.com (Andrew Potter)
arnej@lise.unit.no (Arne Henrik Juul)
at464@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Fred A. Dickey)
ath@linkoping.trab.se
atkinson@cmsun.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thin Layer Of Pond Scum)
avi@chinet.chi.il.us (Avi Schwartz)
bc338569@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu ((Brian J. Catlin))
bfh@b15.b15.ingr.com (Burgess Howell)
bob@netcom.netcom.com (Robert Becker)
bowdidge@cs.UCSD.EDU (Robert Bowdidge)
brian@king.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
bsw!chris@uunet.UU.NET (Chris Hawley)
bsw!chrisp@uunet.UU.NET (Christian Puscasiu)
bsw!dloft@uunet.UU.NET (David Loftesness)
bsw!jdashe@uunet.UU.NET (Jeremy Dashe)
bsw!jeff@uunet.UU.NET (Jeff Peterson)
c162-bs@danube.berkeley.edu (gunawan herri)
campbell@brahms.udel.edu (L L Campbell)
charless@sco.COM (Charlie Stross)
clasohm@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Carsten Clasohm)
coneill@f405.n348.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Chris O'Neill)
coneill@mailbox.bison.mb.ca
cs3ca3au@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Conan the Barbarian)
cyj9h@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU ("Charles Y. Choi")
cza@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Louis Chan)
ddimick@therose.fidonet.org (Another Postmaster)
dgn1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Dale Newton)
dlee@CS.UCLA.EDU (David Lee)
dlukas@PARK.BU.EDU (David Lukas)
doug@ci-1.gmi.org ("Doug Carlson")
dsladden@descartes.waterloo.edu (Darryl Sladden)
dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
dussud%aspen@lucid.com (Patrick Dussud)
dyu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David T Yu)
eclipse@netcom.com (Brian McCullough)
emcguire@ccad.uiowa.edu (Ed McGuire)
emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
fuhrman@udc.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Tom Fuhrman)
g9ctwang@cdf.toronto.edu (Calvin Wang)
galster@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight Galster)
geoff@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Geoff Ghose)
gt0501c@prism.gatech.edu (Ben Combee)
hartley@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Hartley)
helgeha@ifi.uio.no (Helge Hauglin)
hess@rzcsun1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Hauke Hess)
hidber@phys.unibas.ch (Hans-Rudolf Hidber)
jaegerwl@logic.camp.clarkson.edu (Bill Jaeger)
jasonc@leland.stanford.edu
jcl@bdrc.bd.com (John C. Lusth)
jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
johnlee@pnet07.cts.com (John Wiley)
johnm@cory.berkeley.edu (John D. Mitchell)
joneswd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
jwaters@NMSU.Edu
jww@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jack W. Wine )
kim%m44.unm.edu@ariel.unm.edu
koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Quincey Koziol)
langi@ee.UManitoba.CA
light@alcatel.co.at (Alastair Light)
loeffler@cgl.ucsf.edu (Frank Loeffler)
m89jbfo@mtek.chalmers.se (Jonas B Forssell)
mansfike@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
mark@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Mark Hertel)
midgley@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Stephen Midgley)
mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us ()
monfreda@phys.unibas.ch (Massimo Monfreda)
motcsd!apple!bbs.rn.com!tyg (Tim Bobay)
motcsd!starnet!sun!sdf.LoneStar.ORG!srl (Steve Linebarger)
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R Linksvayer)
murph@zowie.med.ge.com (Kevin Murphey 5-4277)
murphyjm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
neuss@igd.fhg.de
nobody@Kodak.COM (Gary Parker (253-7211))
omielan@unixg.ubc.ca (J.O.C. Computer Consulting Inc.)
paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Paul Gittings)
pbf@seas.bellcore.com (Phil Franklin)
pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Po Shan Cheah)
peter@kermit.csd.scarolina.edu (Peter Hoffman)
peter@psg.com (Peter Lerten)
rbv@cypress.com (Roger Vanderveen)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rik@sci.kun.nl (Rik Fleuren)
robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Robert Meunier 514-652-8516)
roche@cs.rochester.edu (Jim Roche)
rui@Athena.MIT.EDU
salex@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Scott Alexander)
schweik@cppob.ruhr.de (Martin Schweikert)
sdl!tal@uunet.UU.NET (Tom Limoncelli)
shan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tony Shan)
shuford@cs.utk.edu
simison@imsa.edu (Chris Simison)
skanga@prism.poly.edu (Shiraz Kanga)
smburke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean M Burke)
sp4@reef.cis.ufl.edu ("Scott Preston")
ss585701999@civilgate.ce.uiuc.edu (Yao)
tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ("Todd L. Masco")
tredysvr!nzkites!foster@gvlv2.GVL.Unisys.COM (Foster Schucker)
tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life?  Ha!)
v882022@si.hhs.nl
vbush@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Victoria Bush)
vlsisj!david@decwrl.dec.com (David Hsu)
wulf@elfie.async.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil)
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Here are the voting results on the creation of an unmoderated newsgroup
titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".  Voting commenced on 2/10/92 and concluded
on 3/10/92.

  Yes: 161 votes
   No:  20 votes

The proposal passes.  The newsgroup will be created soon.  Thank you to all
who participated in the vote.  Here are the details:

YES VOTES RECEIVED:
------------------

"Charles Y. Choi" <cyj9h@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU>
"Doug Carlson" <doug@ci-1.gmi.org>
"Eugene E. Nesterenko" <eenest@argrd0.argonaut.su>
"Jim Drosen" <FAJD%NMUMUS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
"Julius C. Chang" <JULIUS@BTVLABVM.VNET.IBM.COM>
"Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" <OZYMANDIAS@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
"Michael Hermann." <mch1@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
"Nathan C. Bush" <nbush@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU>
"Scott Preston" <sp4@reef.cis.ufl.edu>
"TODD M. CARROZZI" <V078JXAG@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu>
"pSyCHocAnDy aDdiCT" <at12@midway.uchicago.edu>
"tom mckibben 2  " <U51773@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
(Brian J. Catlin) <bc338569@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu>
BJ Parks <motcsd!starnet!sun!void.lonestar.org!bjparks>
BOSELA@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Bill Jaeger <jaegerwl@logic.camp.clarkson.edu>
Brian.Dawson@f3.n30707.z1.therose.fidonet.org (Brian Dawson)
CCTR134@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz
Calvin Wang <g9ctwang@cdf.toronto.edu>
Carsten Clasohm <clasohm@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Charles S. F. Wen <wen@ee.utah.edu>
Charlie Stross <charless@sco.COM>
Costin RIZAN <costin@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca>
DONNA ROSTETTER -- 537-2803 <CSDJR@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
DONNA ROSTETTER -- 537-2803 <CSDJR@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
Dan Ozeran <oze3@midway.uchicago.edu>
Daniel A. Nielsen <IRCFDN@RIA-EMH1.ARMY.MIL>
Dar <dphantom@triton.unm.edu>
Darryl Sladden <dsladden@descartes.waterloo.edu>
David (D.) Villeneuve <DAVEV@BNR.CA>
David Lee <dlee@CS.UCLA.EDU>
David T Yu <dyu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Douglas A Taylor <dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Dwight Galster <galster@plains.NoDak.edu>
Ed Grether <96998239@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Eric P. Hunt <bsc835!ehunt@uunet.UU.NET>
Hans-Rudolf Hidber <hidber@phys.unibas.ch>
J.O.C. Computer Consulting Inc. <omielan@unixg.ubc.ca>
JAMESON <S_ATHEN@irav1.ira.uka.de>
JONES DANIEL ROBERT <jonesd@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Jack W. Wine  <jww@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
John.Burns@West.Sun.COM (John R. Burns - Sun Sacramento SE)
Joseph Gil <yogi@cs.ubc.ca>
Justin Clark <jclark@plains.NoDak.edu>
L L Campbell <campbell@brahms.udel.edu>
Louis Chan <cza@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
Massimo Monfreda <monfreda@phys.unibas.ch>
Matthew Dustin Morgan <mmorg@rice.edu>
Michael B. Williams <mikew@hpwalq.wal.hp.com>
Michael R Linksvayer <mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Peter Hoffman <peter@kermit.csd.scarolina.edu>
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
Rik Fleuren <rik@sci.kun.nl>
SPRD1080%HASARA11.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
SRGXNBS@gfv.dsir.govt.nz
SSgt Greg Streetman <gstreet@afnews.af.mil>
SWELTON%ESOC.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Scott Alexander <salex@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
Sean M Burke <smburke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Thin Layer Of Pond Scum <atman@ecst.csuchico.edu>
Tim Dunn <tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu>
Tony Shan <shan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Victoria Bush <vbush@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
ZABOROWSKY BENJAMIN R <ZABOROWSKY_BENJAMIN_R@LILLY.COM>
acs97393@zach.fit.edu ( SNEERINGER)
adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
alpha3!russell@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Russell Schulz)
andrew@entropy.b23a.ingr.com (Andrew Potter)
arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
at464@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Fred A. Dickey)
ath@linkoping.trab.se
atropos@netlab.cis.brown.edu (David O'Donnell)
avi@chinet.chi.il.us (Avi Schwartz)
bfh@b15.b15.ingr.com (Burgess Howell)
bit!jd@urbana.mcd.mot.com (J.D.Scogin)
bob@netcom.netcom.com (Robert Becker)
bowdidge@cs.UCSD.EDU (Robert Bowdidge)
brian@king.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
bsw!chris@uunet.UU.NET (Chris Hawley)
bsw!chrisp@uunet.UU.NET (Christian Puscasiu)
bsw!dloft@uunet.UU.NET (David Loftesness)
bsw!jdashe@uunet.UU.NET (Jeremy Dashe)
bsw!jeff@uunet.UU.NET (Jeff Peterson)
butch@inuxy.att.com
c162-bs@danube.berkeley.edu (gunawan herri)
calb@edsi.plexus.com (Calvin Bolwerk)
cecka@stolaf.edu (The Ancient Mariner)
colgrove@uvm-gen.UVM.EDU
coneill@f405.n348.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Chris O'Neill)
cpm@twzone.pub.uu.oz.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
cs3ca3au@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Conan the Barbarian)
dbm@Cadence.COM (Dave Morris)
ddimick@therose.fidonet.org (Another Postmaster)
df@phx.mcd.mot.com (Dale Farnsworth)
dgn1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Dale Newton)
dlukas@PARK.BU.EDU (David Lukas)
dussud%aspen@lucid.com (Patrick Dussud)
eclipse@netcom.com (Brian McCullough)
eclipse@netcom.com (Brian McCullough)
emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
fuhrman@udc.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Tom Fuhrman)
geoff@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Geoff Ghose)
gt0501c@prism.gatech.edu (Ben Combee)
gt7803b@prism.gatech.edu
hartley@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Hartley)
hess@rzcsun1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Hauke Hess)
hydra!yukit@uu2.psi.com (Chuck)
icsg0039@cs.montana.edu (Charles)
jasonc@leland.stanford.edu
jcl@bdrc.bd.com (John C. Lusth)
jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
johnlee@pnet07.cts.com (John Wiley)
johnm@cory.berkeley.edu (John D. Mitchell)
joneswd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
jsb@odi.com
jwaters@NMSU.Edu
kcaputa@sirius.UVic.CA (Kris  Caputa)
kim%m44.unm.edu@ariel.unm.edu
krupnick@netcom.com (Jerry Krupnick)
laba-qe@amazon.berkeley.edu (Rune Stromsness)
langi@ee.UManitoba.CA
light@alcatel.co.at (Alastair Light)
loeffler@cgl.ucsf.edu (Frank Loeffler)
m89jbfo@mtek.chalmers.se (Jonas B Forssell)
mansfike@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
mark@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Mark Hertel)
mark@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Mark Hertel)
midgley@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Stephen Midgley)
mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us ()
motcsd!apple!bbs.rn.com!tyg (Tim Bobay)
motcsd!apple!ub-gate.UB.com!flakes!flake (Christopher Flake)
motcsd!infoserv!uunet!polari!murphy (joe murphy)
motcsd!starnet!sun!sdf.LoneStar.ORG!srl (Steve Linebarger)
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
murph@zowie.med.ge.com (Kevin Murphey 5-4277)
murphyjm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
neuss@igd.fhg.de
nmodena@unity.ncsu.edu
nobody@Kodak.COM (Gary Parker (253-7211))
pbf@seas.bellcore.com (Phil Franklin)
pca54!ng@uunet.UU.NET (Mark Ng)
peter@psg.com (Peter Lerten)
pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
rbv@cypress.com (Roger Vanderveen)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Robert Meunier 514-652-8516)
rstory@relay.mentorg.com
rui@Athena.MIT.EDU
schweik@cppob.ruhr.de (Martin Schweikert)
shuford@cs.utk.edu
simison@imsa.edu (Chris Simison)
skanga@prism.poly.edu (Shiraz Kanga)
slsunder@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (Shay Sunderland)
ss585701999@civilgate.ce.uiuc.edu (Yao)
swoyer@westford.ccur.com
tredysvr!nzkites!foster@gvlv2.GVL.Unisys.COM (Foster Schucker)
tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life?  Ha!)
vcsc776@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Herman Yan)
vlsisj!david@decwrl.dec.com (David Hsu)
wulf@elfie.async.vt.edu (Jake Rose)


NO VOTES RECEIVED:
-----------------
"Maxime Taksar" <mmt@latour.berkeley.edu>
"Todd L. Masco" <tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Anant Kartik Mithal <akm@cs.uoregon.edu>
Arne Henrik Juul <arnej@lise.unit.no>
David Wright <D.W.Wright@bnr.co.uk>
Helge Hauglin <helgeha@ifi.uio.no>
Jim Roche <roche@cs.rochester.edu>
Roland Kaltefleiter <kaltef@theo-physik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
Stephen Trier <stephen@ziggy.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu>
Sven Heinicke <sven@cs.widener.edu>
Tom Limoncelli <sdl!tal@uunet.UU.NET>
atkinson@cmsun.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
emcguire@ccad.uiowa.edu (Ed McGuire)
gandhi!chris@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Christoph M. Friedrich)
koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Quincey Koziol)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (mehta)
paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Paul Gittings)
sinster@cse.ucsc.edu
v882022@si.hhs.nl
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From brian@king.csd.mot.com Tue Sep 12 10:42:22 1995
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From: brian@king.csd.mot.com
Subject: RFD:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
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This is a request for discussion of a proposed unmoderated newsgroup
titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".  Please note that this is *not* a call for
votes.  After one month's discussion period, a call for votes will be issued.
Please make sure that your discussion is directed to news.groups.


PROPOSED NAME:    comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
 
PROPOSED CHARTER:

  To discuss and share information about:

    - GeoWorks PC/GEOS and PC/GEOS-based products, including
      but not limited to Ensemble, Pro, Personal Office System,
      and the PC/GEOS software development kit.
                    
    - Other software that operates within the PC/GEOS
      environment.

    - Hardware/software compatibilities and incompatibilities
      pertaining to PC/GEOS.
   
    - Software development for the PC/GEOS environment.


PROPOSED STATUS:  Unmoderated
 
RATIONALE: 

  Subject
  -------
  PC/GEOS is an award-winning graphical environment for MSDOS-based
  personal computers.  It's origins are in the Berkeley SoftWorks
  (now called GeoWorks) GEOS products for Apple and Commodore computers.  
  PC/GEOS provides a Motif-like window environment and a true multitasking
  multithreaded kernel.  Unlike Microsoft Windows, PC/GEOS will run on
  as little as 512KB of memory, 3MB of disk space, MSDOS 2.0, a Hercules
  video adapter, and an 8088 processor.

  PC/GEOS fills a substantial niche by providing a windowing environment
  for those MSDOS-based computers which have limited capacity or performance
  (such as PC/XT's and low-end laptops, notebooks, and PC/AT's) that have
  been abandoned by the resource demands of Microsoft Windows and OS/2.  

  The GeoWorks Ensemble product integrates a set of productivity with
  the PC/GEOS operating environment.  In the GeoWorks Pro product,
  Borland's Quattro SE product is also integrated into the PC/GEOS
  environment.  The Personal Office System products are specific
  productivity tools.  Release of a software development kit is
  expected in 1992.

  Interest
  --------
  In December of 1991, a mailing list was created for discussion of the
  GeoWorks Ensemble product.  In only one month of operation, the list
  has grown to include over 90 subscribers from 10 countries.

  Newsgroup name
  --------------
  Several names have been considered.  They are discussed below, along with
  a recommendation.

  *.geoworks:

    Too vendor-specific.  The charter includes discussion of software produced
    by individuals and companies outside of the GeoWorks company.

  *.geos:

    Could be confused with the Apple and/or Commodore GEOS products.  The
    charter limits discussion to the PC/GEOS environment.

  *.ensemble:

    Too product-specific.  The charter includes discussion of other GeoWorks
    products (such as Pro) and non-GeoWorks products.

  *.pcgeos:

    This is proposed as the best choice.  It adequately describes the 
    intended environment, does not preclude new product package names
    from GeoWorks, and does not disclude non-GeoWorks products (any more
    than "*.msdos.*" discludes non-Microsoft products).

  Location in the newsgroup hierarchy
  -----------------------------------
  Several locations have been considered.  They are discussed below, along with
  a recommendation.

  comp.windows.pcgeos:

    This is consistent with comp.windows.ms and comp.windows.ms.programmer.
    However, PC/GEOS is more than a window system, and the proposed charter
    of the newsgroup includes discussion of the kernel and applications in
    addition to the window system itself. 

  comp.os.pcgeos:

    Even though PC/GEOS requires MSDOS underneath, it acts more like a
    complete operating system than an operating environment on top of MSDOS.
    Nonetheless, all of the other comp.os.* groups are standalone operating
    systems, and so PC/GEOS should probably not be located at this level.
 
  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:

    This is proposed as the best choice.  It is consistent with the
    existing newsgroup comp.os.msdos.desqview.  

From brian@king.csd.mot.com Tue Sep 12 10:42:52 1995
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Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: brian@king.csd.mot.com
Subject: 2nd RFD:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
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This is a second request for discussion of a proposed unmoderated newsgroup
titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".  The first request was posted on Jan. 6, 1992.

Please note that this is *not* a call for votes.  After one month's discussion
period (from the first CFD posting), a call for votes will be issued.  Please
make sure that your discussion is directed to news.groups.


PROPOSED NAME:    comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
 
PROPOSED CHARTER:

  To discuss and share information about:

    - GeoWorks PC/GEOS and PC/GEOS-based products, including
      but not limited to Ensemble, Pro, Personal Office System,
      and the PC/GEOS software development kit.
                    
    - Other software that operates within the PC/GEOS
      environment.

    - Hardware/software compatibilities and incompatibilities
      pertaining to PC/GEOS.
   
    - Software development for the PC/GEOS environment.


PROPOSED STATUS:  Unmoderated
 
RATIONALE: 

  Subject
  -------
  PC/GEOS is an award-winning graphical environment for MSDOS-based
  personal computers.  It's origins are in the Berkeley SoftWorks
  (now called GeoWorks) GEOS products for Apple and Commodore computers.  
  PC/GEOS provides a Motif-like window environment and a true multitasking
  multithreaded kernel.  Unlike Microsoft Windows, PC/GEOS will run on
  as little as 512KB of memory, 3MB of disk space, MSDOS 2.0, a Hercules
  video adapter, and an 8088 processor.

  PC/GEOS fills a substantial niche by providing a windowing environment
  for those MSDOS-based computers which have limited capacity or performance
  (such as PC/XT's and low-end laptops, notebooks, and PC/AT's) that have
  been abandoned by the resource demands of Microsoft Windows and OS/2.  

  The GeoWorks Ensemble product integrates a set of productivity with
  the PC/GEOS operating environment.  In the GeoWorks Pro product,
  Borland's Quattro SE product is also integrated into the PC/GEOS
  environment.  The Personal Office System products are specific
  productivity tools.  Release of a software development kit is
  expected in 1992.

  Interest
  --------
  In December of 1991, a mailing list was created for discussion of the
  GeoWorks Ensemble product.  In only one month of operation, the list
  has grown to include over 90 subscribers from 10 countries.

  Newsgroup name
  --------------
  Several names have been considered.  They are discussed below, along with
  a recommendation.

  *.geoworks:

    Too vendor-specific.  The charter includes discussion of software produced
    by individuals and companies outside of the GeoWorks company.

  *.geos:

    Could be confused with the Apple and/or Commodore GEOS products.  The
    charter limits discussion to the PC/GEOS environment.

  *.ensemble:

    Too product-specific.  The charter includes discussion of other GeoWorks
    products (such as Pro) and non-GeoWorks products.

  *.pcgeos:

    This is proposed as the best choice.  It adequately describes the 
    intended environment, does not preclude new product package names
    from GeoWorks, and does not disclude non-GeoWorks products (any more
    than "*.msdos.*" discludes non-Microsoft products).

  Location in the newsgroup hierarchy
  -----------------------------------
  Several locations have been considered.  They are discussed below, along with
  a recommendation.

  comp.windows.pcgeos:

    This is consistent with comp.windows.ms and comp.windows.ms.programmer.
    However, PC/GEOS is more than a window system, and the proposed charter
    of the newsgroup includes discussion of the kernel and applications in
    addition to the window system itself. 

  comp.os.pcgeos:

    Even though PC/GEOS requires MSDOS underneath, it acts more like a
    complete operating system than an operating environment on top of MSDOS.
    Nonetheless, all of the other comp.os.* groups are standalone operating
    systems, and so PC/GEOS should probably not be located at this level.
 
  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:

    This is proposed as the best choice.  It is consistent with the
    existing newsgroup comp.os.msdos.desqview.  

DISCUSSION TO DATE:

  Discussion of this newsgroup proposal has not been exactly overwhelming.
  The only discussion I've seen has been a suggestion that the newsgroup
  be named "comp.os.msdos.geos", because the "pc" in "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos"
  was seen as being redundant.

  The only other comments I've received have been requests for information
  about subscription to the pcgeos mailing.  If you'd like to subscribe,
  send a request to pcgeos-list-request@csd.mot.com.

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From: brian@king.csd.mot.com
Subject: CFV:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
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This is a call for votes on the creation of an unmoderated newsgroup
titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".  The proposal for this newsgroup has been
under discussion since January 6 1992, and nearly all comments have been
favorable.

A number of people suggested that the "pc" part of the proposed newsgroup
name was redundant in the context of "comp.os.msdos", but since the product
name is "PC/GEOS" and not simply "GEOS", the proposed name stands.  In fact,
there are no changes from the original proposal.


HOW TO VOTE:
------------

To vote YES, send e-mail to "pcgeos-yes@csd.mot.com" with a message to
the effect that "I vote yes on comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".

To vote NO, send e-mail to "pcgeos-no@csd.mot.com" with a message to
the effect that "I vote no on comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".

The traditional rules apply about multiple votes from one address.
(The latest received vote is the on that counts.)

If you have questions about or want to cancel your vote, you can send mail
to "pcgeos-vote@csd.mot.com".  Actual votes mailed to that address will
not be counted.


VOTING PERIOD:
--------------

The voting period will commence whenever this is posted by the moderator
of news.announce.newgroups, and will cease at 11:59 UTC, 10 March 1992.


WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON:
----------------------

NAME:    comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
 
CHARTER:

  To discuss and share information about:

    - GeoWorks PC/GEOS and PC/GEOS-based products, including
      but not limited to Ensemble, Pro, Personal Office System,
      and the PC/GEOS software development kit.
                    
    - Other software that operates within the PC/GEOS
      environment.

    - Hardware/software compatibilities and incompatibilities
      pertaining to PC/GEOS.
   
    - Software development for the PC/GEOS environment.


STATUS:  Unmoderated
 
RATIONALE: 

  PC/GEOS is an award-winning graphical environment for MSDOS-based
  personal computers.  It's origins are in the Berkeley SoftWorks
  (now called GeoWorks) GEOS products for Apple and Commodore computers.  
  PC/GEOS provides a Motif-like window environment and a true multitasking
  multithreaded kernel.  Unlike Microsoft Windows, PC/GEOS will run on
  as little as 512KB of memory, 3MB of disk space, MSDOS 2.0, a Hercules
  video adapter, and an 8088 processor.

  PC/GEOS fills a substantial niche by providing a windowing environment
  for those MSDOS-based computers which have limited capacity or performance
  (such as PC/XT's and low-end laptops, notebooks, and PC/AT's) that have
  been abandoned by the resource demands of Microsoft Windows and OS/2.  

  The GeoWorks Ensemble product integrates a set of productivity with
  the PC/GEOS operating environment.  In the GeoWorks Pro product,
  Borland's Quattro SE product is also integrated into the PC/GEOS
  environment.  The Personal Office System products are specific
  productivity tools.  Release of a software development kit is
  expected in 1992.

From brian@king.csd.mot.com Tue Sep 12 10:45:19 1995
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From: brian@king.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos
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This is a second call for votes (and acknowledgement of votes to date)
for the creation of an unmoderated newsgroup titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".
The first call for votes was posted on February 10, 1992.  This second
call for votes is being posted a bit early because a number of people have
reported that they did not see the first CFV at their sites.


HOW TO VOTE:
------------

To vote YES, send e-mail to "pcgeos-yes@csd.mot.com" with a message to
the effect that "I vote yes on comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".

To vote NO, send e-mail to "pcgeos-no@csd.mot.com" with a message to
the effect that "I vote no on comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".

The traditional rules apply about multiple votes from one address.

If you have questions about or want to cancel your vote, you can send mail
to "pcgeos-vote@csd.mot.com".  Actual votes mailed to that address will
not be counted.


VOTING PERIOD:
--------------

The voting period commenced on February 10 and will cease on March 10.


WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON:
----------------------

NAME:    comp.os.msdos.pcgeos

CHARTER:

  To discuss and share information about:

    - GeoWorks PC/GEOS and PC/GEOS-based products, including
      but not limited to Ensemble, Pro, Personal Office System,
      and the PC/GEOS software development kit.
                    
    - Other software that operates within the PC/GEOS
      environment.

    - Hardware/software compatibilities and incompatibilities
      pertaining to PC/GEOS.
   
    - Software development for the PC/GEOS environment.


STATUS:  Unmoderated

RATIONALE: 

  PC/GEOS is an award-winning graphical environment for MSDOS-based
  personal computers.  It's origins are in the Berkeley SoftWorks
  (now called GeoWorks) GEOS products for Apple and Commodore computers.  
  PC/GEOS provides a Motif-like window environment and a true multitasking
  multithreaded kernel.  Unlike Microsoft Windows, PC/GEOS will run on
  as little as 512KB of memory, 3MB of disk space, MSDOS 2.0, a Hercules
  video adapter, and an 8088 processor.

  PC/GEOS fills a substantial niche by providing a windowing environment
  for those MSDOS-based computers which have limited capacity or performance
  (such as PC/XT's and low-end laptops, notebooks, and PC/AT's) that have
  been abandoned by the resource demands of Microsoft Windows and OS/2.  

  The GeoWorks Ensemble product integrates a set of productivity with
  the PC/GEOS operating environment.  In the GeoWorks Pro product,
  Borland's Quattro SE product is also integrated into the PC/GEOS
  environment.  The Personal Office System products are specific
  productivity tools.  Release of a software development kit is
  expected in 1992.


MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF VOTES RECEIVED
--------------------------------------

As of Wed Feb 19 13:44:20 PST 1992, votes have been received from the
following people:

96998239@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU (Ed Grether)
BOSELA@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Brian.Dawson@f3.n30707.z1.therose.fidonet.org (Brian Dawson)
CSDJR@uoft02.utoledo.edu (DONNA ROSTETTER -- 537-2803)
DAVEV@BNR.CA (David (D.) Villeneuve)
FAJD%NMUMUS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU ("Jim Drosen")
JULIUS@BTVLABVM.VNET.IBM.COM ("Julius C. Chang")
John.Burns@West.Sun.COM (John R. Burns - Sun Sacramento SE)
OZYMANDIAS@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU ("Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!")
SRGXNBS@gfv.dsir.govt.nz
S_ATHEN@irav1.ira.uka.de (JAMESON)
U51773@UICVM.UIC.EDU ("tom mckibben 2  ")
V078JXAG@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu ("TODD M. CARROZZI")
ZABOROWSKY_BENJAMIN_R@LILLY.COM (ZABOROWSKY BENJAMIN R)
adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
akm@cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal)
andrew@entropy.b23a.ingr.com (Andrew Potter)
arnej@lise.unit.no (Arne Henrik Juul)
at464@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Fred A. Dickey)
ath@linkoping.trab.se
atkinson@cmsun.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thin Layer Of Pond Scum)
avi@chinet.chi.il.us (Avi Schwartz)
bc338569@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu ((Brian J. Catlin))
bfh@b15.b15.ingr.com (Burgess Howell)
bob@netcom.netcom.com (Robert Becker)
bowdidge@cs.UCSD.EDU (Robert Bowdidge)
brian@king.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
bsw!chris@uunet.UU.NET (Chris Hawley)
bsw!chrisp@uunet.UU.NET (Christian Puscasiu)
bsw!dloft@uunet.UU.NET (David Loftesness)
bsw!jdashe@uunet.UU.NET (Jeremy Dashe)
bsw!jeff@uunet.UU.NET (Jeff Peterson)
c162-bs@danube.berkeley.edu (gunawan herri)
campbell@brahms.udel.edu (L L Campbell)
charless@sco.COM (Charlie Stross)
clasohm@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Carsten Clasohm)
coneill@f405.n348.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Chris O'Neill)
coneill@mailbox.bison.mb.ca
cs3ca3au@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Conan the Barbarian)
cyj9h@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU ("Charles Y. Choi")
cza@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Louis Chan)
ddimick@therose.fidonet.org (Another Postmaster)
dgn1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Dale Newton)
dlee@CS.UCLA.EDU (David Lee)
dlukas@PARK.BU.EDU (David Lukas)
doug@ci-1.gmi.org ("Doug Carlson")
dsladden@descartes.waterloo.edu (Darryl Sladden)
dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Douglas A Taylor)
dussud%aspen@lucid.com (Patrick Dussud)
dyu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David T Yu)
eclipse@netcom.com (Brian McCullough)
emcguire@ccad.uiowa.edu (Ed McGuire)
emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
fuhrman@udc.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Tom Fuhrman)
g9ctwang@cdf.toronto.edu (Calvin Wang)
galster@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight Galster)
geoff@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Geoff Ghose)
gt0501c@prism.gatech.edu (Ben Combee)
hartley@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Hartley)
helgeha@ifi.uio.no (Helge Hauglin)
hess@rzcsun1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Hauke Hess)
hidber@phys.unibas.ch (Hans-Rudolf Hidber)
jaegerwl@logic.camp.clarkson.edu (Bill Jaeger)
jasonc@leland.stanford.edu
jcl@bdrc.bd.com (John C. Lusth)
jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
johnlee@pnet07.cts.com (John Wiley)
johnm@cory.berkeley.edu (John D. Mitchell)
joneswd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
jwaters@NMSU.Edu
jww@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jack W. Wine )
kim%m44.unm.edu@ariel.unm.edu
koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Quincey Koziol)
langi@ee.UManitoba.CA
light@alcatel.co.at (Alastair Light)
loeffler@cgl.ucsf.edu (Frank Loeffler)
m89jbfo@mtek.chalmers.se (Jonas B Forssell)
mansfike@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
mark@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Mark Hertel)
midgley@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Stephen Midgley)
mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us ()
monfreda@phys.unibas.ch (Massimo Monfreda)
motcsd!apple!bbs.rn.com!tyg (Tim Bobay)
motcsd!starnet!sun!sdf.LoneStar.ORG!srl (Steve Linebarger)
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R Linksvayer)
murph@zowie.med.ge.com (Kevin Murphey 5-4277)
murphyjm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
neuss@igd.fhg.de
nobody@Kodak.COM (Gary Parker (253-7211))
omielan@unixg.ubc.ca (J.O.C. Computer Consulting Inc.)
paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Paul Gittings)
pbf@seas.bellcore.com (Phil Franklin)
pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Po Shan Cheah)
peter@kermit.csd.scarolina.edu (Peter Hoffman)
peter@psg.com (Peter Lerten)
rbv@cypress.com (Roger Vanderveen)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
rik@sci.kun.nl (Rik Fleuren)
robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Robert Meunier 514-652-8516)
roche@cs.rochester.edu (Jim Roche)
rui@Athena.MIT.EDU
salex@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Scott Alexander)
schweik@cppob.ruhr.de (Martin Schweikert)
sdl!tal@uunet.UU.NET (Tom Limoncelli)
shan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tony Shan)
shuford@cs.utk.edu
simison@imsa.edu (Chris Simison)
skanga@prism.poly.edu (Shiraz Kanga)
smburke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean M Burke)
sp4@reef.cis.ufl.edu ("Scott Preston")
ss585701999@civilgate.ce.uiuc.edu (Yao)
tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu ("Todd L. Masco")
tredysvr!nzkites!foster@gvlv2.GVL.Unisys.COM (Foster Schucker)
tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life?  Ha!)
v882022@si.hhs.nl
vbush@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Victoria Bush)
vlsisj!david@decwrl.dec.com (David Hsu)
wulf@elfie.async.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
yogi@cs.ubc.ca (Joseph Gil)
-- 
-Brian Smithson
 Motorola Inc., Computer Group, Commercial Systems Division
 2001 Logic Drive, M/S 1-E10, San Jose, CA 95124 USA, (408)369-4104
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From brian@king.csd.mot.com Tue Sep 12 10:47:18 1995
Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1915 news.groups:40841 comp.windows.ms:26977 comp.os.msdos.apps:5464 comp.os.msdos.misc:6287 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:23805 comp.os.msdos.programmer:14013 comp.windows.ms.programmer:10014
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Path: rpi!think.com!yale.edu!jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!uunet!bounce-back
From: brian@king.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
Subject: RESULT:  comp.os.msdos.pcgeos passes 161: 20
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Organization: UUNET Communications Services
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1992 16:41:41 GMT
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Status: RO
X-Status: 

Here are the voting results on the creation of an unmoderated newsgroup
titled "comp.os.msdos.pcgeos".  Voting commenced on 2/10/92 and concluded
on 3/10/92.

  Yes: 161 votes
   No:  20 votes

The proposal passes.  The newsgroup will be created soon.  Thank you to all
who participated in the vote.  Here are the details:

YES VOTES RECEIVED:
------------------

"Charles Y. Choi" <cyj9h@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU>
"Doug Carlson" <doug@ci-1.gmi.org>
"Eugene E. Nesterenko" <eenest@argrd0.argonaut.su>
"Jim Drosen" <FAJD%NMUMUS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
"Julius C. Chang" <JULIUS@BTVLABVM.VNET.IBM.COM>
"Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" <OZYMANDIAS@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
"Michael Hermann." <mch1@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de>
"Nathan C. Bush" <nbush@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU>
"Scott Preston" <sp4@reef.cis.ufl.edu>
"TODD M. CARROZZI" <V078JXAG@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu>
"pSyCHocAnDy aDdiCT" <at12@midway.uchicago.edu>
"tom mckibben 2  " <U51773@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
(Brian J. Catlin) <bc338569@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu>
BJ Parks <motcsd!starnet!sun!void.lonestar.org!bjparks>
BOSELA@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Bill Jaeger <jaegerwl@logic.camp.clarkson.edu>
Brian.Dawson@f3.n30707.z1.therose.fidonet.org (Brian Dawson)
CCTR134@cantva.canterbury.ac.nz
Calvin Wang <g9ctwang@cdf.toronto.edu>
Carsten Clasohm <clasohm@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Charles S. F. Wen <wen@ee.utah.edu>
Charlie Stross <charless@sco.COM>
Costin RIZAN <costin@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca>
DONNA ROSTETTER -- 537-2803 <CSDJR@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
DONNA ROSTETTER -- 537-2803 <CSDJR@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
Dan Ozeran <oze3@midway.uchicago.edu>
Daniel A. Nielsen <IRCFDN@RIA-EMH1.ARMY.MIL>
Dar <dphantom@triton.unm.edu>
Darryl Sladden <dsladden@descartes.waterloo.edu>
David (D.) Villeneuve <DAVEV@BNR.CA>
David Lee <dlee@CS.UCLA.EDU>
David T Yu <dyu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Douglas A Taylor <dtaylor@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Dwight Galster <galster@plains.NoDak.edu>
Ed Grether <96998239@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Eric P. Hunt <bsc835!ehunt@uunet.UU.NET>
Hans-Rudolf Hidber <hidber@phys.unibas.ch>
J.O.C. Computer Consulting Inc. <omielan@unixg.ubc.ca>
JAMESON <S_ATHEN@irav1.ira.uka.de>
JONES DANIEL ROBERT <jonesd@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Jack W. Wine  <jww@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu>
John.Burns@West.Sun.COM (John R. Burns - Sun Sacramento SE)
Joseph Gil <yogi@cs.ubc.ca>
Justin Clark <jclark@plains.NoDak.edu>
L L Campbell <campbell@brahms.udel.edu>
Louis Chan <cza@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu>
Massimo Monfreda <monfreda@phys.unibas.ch>
Matthew Dustin Morgan <mmorg@rice.edu>
Michael B. Williams <mikew@hpwalq.wal.hp.com>
Michael R Linksvayer <mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Peter Hoffman <peter@kermit.csd.scarolina.edu>
Po Shan Cheah <pc30@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
Rik Fleuren <rik@sci.kun.nl>
SPRD1080%HASARA11.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
SRGXNBS@gfv.dsir.govt.nz
SSgt Greg Streetman <gstreet@afnews.af.mil>
SWELTON%ESOC.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
Scott Alexander <salex@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov>
Sean M Burke <smburke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Thin Layer Of Pond Scum <atman@ecst.csuchico.edu>
Tim Dunn <tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu>
Tony Shan <shan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Victoria Bush <vbush@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
ZABOROWSKY BENJAMIN R <ZABOROWSKY_BENJAMIN_R@LILLY.COM>
acs97393@zach.fit.edu ( SNEERINGER)
adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
alpha3!russell@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Russell Schulz)
andrew@entropy.b23a.ingr.com (Andrew Potter)
arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
at464@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Fred A. Dickey)
ath@linkoping.trab.se
atropos@netlab.cis.brown.edu (David O'Donnell)
avi@chinet.chi.il.us (Avi Schwartz)
bfh@b15.b15.ingr.com (Burgess Howell)
bit!jd@urbana.mcd.mot.com (J.D.Scogin)
bob@netcom.netcom.com (Robert Becker)
bowdidge@cs.UCSD.EDU (Robert Bowdidge)
brian@king.ca41.csd.mot.com (Brian Smithson)
bsw!chris@uunet.UU.NET (Chris Hawley)
bsw!chrisp@uunet.UU.NET (Christian Puscasiu)
bsw!dloft@uunet.UU.NET (David Loftesness)
bsw!jdashe@uunet.UU.NET (Jeremy Dashe)
bsw!jeff@uunet.UU.NET (Jeff Peterson)
butch@inuxy.att.com
c162-bs@danube.berkeley.edu (gunawan herri)
calb@edsi.plexus.com (Calvin Bolwerk)
cecka@stolaf.edu (The Ancient Mariner)
colgrove@uvm-gen.UVM.EDU
coneill@f405.n348.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Chris O'Neill)
cpm@twzone.pub.uu.oz.au (Paul Pavlinovich)
cs3ca3au@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Conan the Barbarian)
dbm@Cadence.COM (Dave Morris)
ddimick@therose.fidonet.org (Another Postmaster)
df@phx.mcd.mot.com (Dale Farnsworth)
dgn1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Dale Newton)
dlukas@PARK.BU.EDU (David Lukas)
dussud%aspen@lucid.com (Patrick Dussud)
eclipse@netcom.com (Brian McCullough)
eclipse@netcom.com (Brian McCullough)
emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
fuhrman@udc.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Tom Fuhrman)
geoff@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Geoff Ghose)
gt0501c@prism.gatech.edu (Ben Combee)
gt7803b@prism.gatech.edu
hartley@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Hartley)
hess@rzcsun1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Hauke Hess)
hydra!yukit@uu2.psi.com (Chuck)
icsg0039@cs.montana.edu (Charles)
jasonc@leland.stanford.edu
jcl@bdrc.bd.com (John C. Lusth)
jdz1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John D. Zitterkopf)
johnlee@pnet07.cts.com (John Wiley)
johnm@cory.berkeley.edu (John D. Mitchell)
joneswd@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
jsb@odi.com
jwaters@NMSU.Edu
kcaputa@sirius.UVic.CA (Kris  Caputa)
kim%m44.unm.edu@ariel.unm.edu
krupnick@netcom.com (Jerry Krupnick)
laba-qe@amazon.berkeley.edu (Rune Stromsness)
langi@ee.UManitoba.CA
light@alcatel.co.at (Alastair Light)
loeffler@cgl.ucsf.edu (Frank Loeffler)
m89jbfo@mtek.chalmers.se (Jonas B Forssell)
mansfike@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
mark@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Mark Hertel)
mark@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Mark Hertel)
midgley@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Stephen Midgley)
mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us ()
motcsd!apple!bbs.rn.com!tyg (Tim Bobay)
motcsd!apple!ub-gate.UB.com!flakes!flake (Christopher Flake)
motcsd!infoserv!uunet!polari!murphy (joe murphy)
motcsd!starnet!sun!sdf.LoneStar.ORG!srl (Steve Linebarger)
mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
murph@zowie.med.ge.com (Kevin Murphey 5-4277)
murphyjm@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
neuss@igd.fhg.de
nmodena@unity.ncsu.edu
nobody@Kodak.COM (Gary Parker (253-7211))
pbf@seas.bellcore.com (Phil Franklin)
pca54!ng@uunet.UU.NET (Mark Ng)
peter@psg.com (Peter Lerten)
pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU
rbv@cypress.com (Roger Vanderveen)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
robert@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Robert Meunier 514-652-8516)
rstory@relay.mentorg.com
rui@Athena.MIT.EDU
schweik@cppob.ruhr.de (Martin Schweikert)
shuford@cs.utk.edu
simison@imsa.edu (Chris Simison)
skanga@prism.poly.edu (Shiraz Kanga)
slsunder@csemail.cropsci.ncsu.edu (Shay Sunderland)
ss585701999@civilgate.ce.uiuc.edu (Yao)
swoyer@westford.ccur.com
tredysvr!nzkites!foster@gvlv2.GVL.Unisys.COM (Foster Schucker)
tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life?  Ha!)
vcsc776@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Herman Yan)
vlsisj!david@decwrl.dec.com (David Hsu)
wulf@elfie.async.vt.edu (Jake Rose)


NO VOTES RECEIVED:
-----------------
"Maxime Taksar" <mmt@latour.berkeley.edu>
"Todd L. Masco" <tm2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Anant Kartik Mithal <akm@cs.uoregon.edu>
Arne Henrik Juul <arnej@lise.unit.no>
David Wright <D.W.Wright@bnr.co.uk>
Helge Hauglin <helgeha@ifi.uio.no>
Jim Roche <roche@cs.rochester.edu>
Roland Kaltefleiter <kaltef@theo-physik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
Stephen Trier <stephen@ziggy.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu>
Sven Heinicke <sven@cs.widener.edu>
Tom Limoncelli <sdl!tal@uunet.UU.NET>
atkinson@cmsun.cmf.nrl.navy.mil
cward@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Christopher Ward)
emcguire@ccad.uiowa.edu (Ed McGuire)
gandhi!chris@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Christoph M. Friedrich)
koziol@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Quincey Koziol)
mehta@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (mehta)
paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Paul Gittings)
sinster@cse.ucsc.edu
v882022@si.hhs.nl
-- 
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 2001 Logic Drive, M/S 1-E10, San Jose, CA 95124 USA, (408)369-4104
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