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Literate tools ( comp.programming.literate )
 
From neeri@err.ethz.ch Wed Jul 28 23:33:01 1993
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From: neeri@err.ethz.ch (Matthias Neeracher)
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      Request for Discussion: comp.programming.literate
      -------------------------------------------------

Proposed name:              comp.programming.literate
Proposed moderation status: unmoderated

Proposed Charter: A forum for the discussion of issues related
   to literate programming.

(1) To share ideas, questions, experiences, and knowledge about the
    reading and writing of literate programs.

(2) To discuss the merits of the currently existing literate
    programming tools.

(3) To discuss the design of new literate programming tools.

Background: What is Literate Programming?

In an article published in _The Computer Journal_ 27 (1984), 97-111,
Donald E. Knuth proposed a "literate" programming style:

     I believe that the time is ripe for significantly better
     documentation of programs, and that we can best achieve this by
     considering programs to be works of literature. Hence, my title:
     "Literate Programming."

     Let us change our traditional attitude to the construction of
     programs: Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct
     a *computer* what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining
     to *human beings* what we want a computer to do.

     The practitioner of literate programming can be regarded as an
     essayist, whose main concern is with exposition and excellence of
     style. Such an author, with thesaurus in hand, chooses the names
     of variables carefully and explains what each variable means. He
     or she strives for a program that is comprehensible because its
     concepts have been introduced in an order that is best for human
     understanding, using a mixture of formal and informal methods that
     reinforce each other.

A literate programming system can be characterized by the following
properties:

 - The compilable program and the publishable documentation should be
   generated *automatically* from a *single* document.

 - The program can be presented in the order that is best for human
   understanding, regardless of any requirements of the programming
   language.

 - The program should be automatically indexed and cross-referenced.

Knuth's original system, called WEB, generated Pascal code and a TeX
documentation. Most tools relating to the TeX system have been written
using WEB, and the TeX and Metafont programs have been published in book
form.

Today, there are Literate Programming systems for a wide range of
programming languages and documentation systems. Specialized Literate
Programming tools have been written for Ada, Awk, C, C++, Fortran,
Modula-2, Modula-3, Pascal and Scheme, and generic tools exist that
can generate almost any programming language (including Perl and sh).

Documentation systems supported include TeX, Troff, and Word for
Windows.

Existing Resources

The mailing list LitProg@SHSU.EDU has existed for about a year. There
are currently more than 300 subscribers and an average of about 80
messages (corresponding to about 150K of traffic) per month in the
first 6 months of this year.

If a newsgroup is created, mechanisms are already in place to support
a mirrored gateway between it and the existing mailing list.  For
reference purposes, the newsgroup will be fully archived by the host
sponsoring the mailing list.

Discussion

Discussion should be confined to news.groups. Please do not post
responses to any other groups. Discussions may also be e-mailed to
neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch if posting is not possible.

Assuming there is a consensus that the group comp.programming.literate
should be created, voting will start 21 days from the first posting
date of this request.  Voting instructions will be published in a Call
for Votes to the same newsgroups that see this Request for Discussion.
Both this Request for Discussion and the Call for Votes will be
crossposted to the "LitProg@shsu.edu" mailing list.

Matthias
-- 
Matthias Neeracher                                      neeri@iis.ethz.ch
  "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
   relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard P. Feynman

From dave@dogwood.com Tue Aug 24 17:14:34 1993
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                      CALL FOR VOTES (1st of 2)
 
Unmoderated group comp.programming.literate
 
Newsgroups line:
comp.programming.literate	Literate programs and programming tools.

Votes must be received by 14 Sep 1993 23:59:59 GMT.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact dave@dogwood.com. For questions about the
proposed group, contact Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch>.

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The vote-taker can accept no responsibility for improperly configured
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CHARTER

Charter: A forum for the discussion of issues related
   to literate programming.

(1) To share ideas, questions, experiences, and knowledge about the
    reading and writing of literate programs.

(2) To discuss the merits of the currently existing literate
    programming tools.

(3) To discuss the design of new literate programming tools.

If a newsgroup is created, it will be mirrored to the existing mailing list
LitProg@shsu.edu.  For reference purposes, the newsgroup will be fully archived
by the host sponsoring the mailing list.

Background: What is Literate Programming?

Literate programming is a programming technique invented by Donald. E. Knuth.
A literate programming system can be characterized by the following properties:

 - The compilable program and the publishable documentation should be
   generated *automatically* from a *single* document.

 - The program can be presented in the order that is best for human
   understanding, regardless of any requirements of the programming
   language.

 - The program should be automatically indexed and cross-referenced.

Knuth's original system, called WEB, generated Pascal code and a TeX
documentation. Most tools relating to the TeX system have been written
using WEB, and the TeX and Metafont programs have been published in book
form.

Today, there are Literate Programming systems for a wide range of
programming languages and documentation systems. Specialized Literate
Programming tools have been written for Ada, Awk, C, C++, Fortran,
Modula-2, Modula-3, Pascal and Scheme, and generic tools exist that
can generate almost any programming language (including Perl and sh).

Documentation systems supported include TeX, Troff, and Word for
Windows.
-- 
Dave Cornejo                                There is nothing so subtle
Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
Fremont, California

From dave@dogwood.com Wed Sep  8 19:42:29 1993
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                      SECOND CALL FOR VOTES
                (this is the last Call For Votes)
 
Unmoderated group comp.programming.literate
 
Newsgroups line:
comp.programming.literate	Literate programs and programming tools.

Votes must be received by 14 Sep 1993 23:59:59 GMT

SPECIAL NOTE: Due to technical problems, dogwood.com was off the net
>from Thursday morning through Saturday afternoon. Some votes may have
been returned by your local system, please resend them!

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only, contact dave@dogwood.com. For questions about the
proposed group, contact Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch>.

A copy of this Call For Votes will be sent to LitProg@shsu.edu after
the original Call For Votes appears in news.announce.newgroups.


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You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to
      vote@dogwood.com
(just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail
message should contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.programming.literate
or
      I vote NO on comp.programming.literate

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement
involving the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a
single line may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.
If you later change your mind you may also use send in an "abstain"
vote in the same manner, using "abstain" in place of "yes" or "no".

Standard Guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person (not per
account). 100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of all votes being
YES are the requirements for group creation.

Votes will be acknowledged by email; a list of bounced acknowledgements
will be posted with the second Call For Votes. A mass acknowledgement
will NOT be posted. You may inquire about the status of your vote by
emailing the vote-taker (dave@dogwood.com).

After the results have been announced a complete list of the votes
will be posted in news.groups and will be mailed on request (email
requests to dave@dogwood.com).

The vote-taker can accept no responsibility for improperly configured
mailers.

CHARTER

Charter: A forum for the discussion of issues related
   to literate programming.

(1) To share ideas, questions, experiences, and knowledge about the
    reading and writing of literate programs.

(2) To discuss the merits of the currently existing literate
    programming tools.

(3) To discuss the design of new literate programming tools.

If a newsgroup is created, it will be mirrored to the existing mailing list
LitProg@shsu.edu.  For reference purposes, the newsgroup will be fully archived
by the host sponsoring the mailing list.

Background: What is Literate Programming?

Literate programming is a programming technique invented by Donald. E. Knuth.
A literate programming system can be characterized by the following properties:

 - The compilable program and the publishable documentation should be
   generated *automatically* from a *single* document.

 - The program can be presented in the order that is best for human
   understanding, regardless of any requirements of the programming
   language.

 - The program should be automatically indexed and cross-referenced.

Knuth's original system, called WEB, generated Pascal code and a TeX
documentation. Most tools relating to the TeX system have been written
using WEB, and the TeX and Metafont programs have been published in book
form.

Today, there are Literate Programming systems for a wide range of
programming languages and documentation systems. Specialized Literate
Programming tools have been written for Ada, Awk, C, C++, Fortran,
Modula-2, Modula-3, Pascal and Scheme, and generic tools exist that
can generate almost any programming language (including Perl and sh).

Documentation systems supported include TeX, Troff, and Word for
Windows.

"BOUNCED" ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:

none
-- 
Dave Cornejo                                There is nothing so subtle
Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
Fremont, California

From dave@dogwood.com Thu Sep 16 14:00:27 1993
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Subject: RESULT: comp.programming.literate passes 354:31
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comp.programming.literate group vote results - 385 votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 354   31 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.programming.literate

CHARTER

Charter: A forum for the discussion of issues related
   to literate programming.

(1) To share ideas, questions, experiences, and knowledge about the
    reading and writing of literate programs.

(2) To discuss the merits of the currently existing literate
    programming tools.

(3) To discuss the design of new literate programming tools.

If a newsgroup is created, it will be mirrored to the existing mailing list
LitProg@shsu.edu.  For reference purposes, the newsgroup will be fully archived
by the host sponsoring the mailing list.

Background: What is Literate Programming?

Literate programming is a programming technique invented by Donald. E. Knuth.
A literate programming system can be characterized by the following properties:

 - The compilable program and the publishable documentation should be
   generated *automatically* from a *single* document.

 - The program can be presented in the order that is best for human
   understanding, regardless of any requirements of the programming
   language.

 - The program should be automatically indexed and cross-referenced.

Knuth's original system, called WEB, generated Pascal code and a TeX
documentation. Most tools relating to the TeX system have been written
using WEB, and the TeX and Metafont programs have been published in book
form.

Today, there are Literate Programming systems for a wide range of
programming languages and documentation systems. Specialized Literate
Programming tools have been written for Ada, Awk, C, C++, Fortran,
Modula-2, Modula-3, Pascal and Scheme, and generic tools exist that
can generate almost any programming language (including Perl and sh).

Documentation systems supported include TeX, Troff, and Word for
Windows.

comp.programming.literate group vote Final Vote Ack

Yes Votes
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aa393@freenet.carleton.ca (Ramesh Fernando)                                   
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aix3!wjg@netcom.com (Joey Gibson)                                             
ajt1@ukc.ac.uk                                                                
aklassen@PUCnet.com (Allan Klassen)                                           
al@clark.net (Andre Lehovich)                                                 
alanc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU (Alan Coopersmith)                                     
Anders.Hallberg@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Hallberg)                             
Anders.Lindstrom@infovox.se (Anders Lindstrom)                                
andreas@cs.titech.ac.jp (Andreas Savva)                                       
asnd@erich.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)                                        
ays@uts.ipp-garching.mpg.de (Andreas Schott)                                  
bart@cs.tamu.edu (Bart Childs)                                                
bed_gdg@SHSU.edu (George D. Greenwade)                                        
ben@nj8j.atl.ga.us                                                            
bfrasmus@eso.org (Bo Frese Rasmussen)                                         
bholder@csn.org (Bruce Holder)                                                
bj@herbison.com (B.J. Herbison)                                               
bjones@cambria.columbus.oh.us (Bill Jones)                                    
bleier@nomos.com (Alan Bleier)                                                
bouillon@cs.uni-sb.de (Peter G. Bouillon)                                     
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braven@oskar.demon.co.uk (Brian Raven)                                        
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brt!robert@uu.psi.com (Robert Blumen)                                         
Bryan@Novell.COM                                                              
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carroll@udel.edu (Mark C. Carroll)                                            
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chaplin@keithley.com (Roger Chaplin)                                          
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ciao@diku.dk                                                                  
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cls6@midway.uchicago.edu (Cory L. Scott)                                      
combee@prism.gatech.edu (Ben Combee)                                          
conrado@alkashi.upc.es (Conrado)                                              
craig@adikia (Craig Groeschel)                                                
cravitma@cps.msu.edu                                                          
curtis@ncrtory.TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Curtis Johnson 619-597-3808)            
D.J.E.Nunn@durham.ac.uk (Douglas Nunn)                                        
d.love@daresbury.ac.uk (Dave Love)                                            
D.M.Pick@qmw.ac.uk                                                            
dajm@stams.strath.ac.uk (David Middleton)                                     
dak@POOL.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE                                            
damby@hei.hii.com                                                             
danno@indirect.com (Dan Haugland)                                             
darchen@univ-rennes1.fr                                                       
dave@golo.demon.co.uk (Dave Searle)                                           
davec@cs.uq.oz.au                                                             
david@sabrina.inesc.pt (David Matos)                                          
davidp@qpsx.oz.au (David Pascoe)                                              
davidsen@tmr.com (Bill Davidsen)                                              
davies@saifr00.ateng.az.honeywell.com (Bill Davies)                           
db@psych.toronto.edu                                                          
dbaker@wilkins.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Donald Baker)                               
dbarton@computer-science.manchester.ac.uk (Dave Barton (visitor))             
dcl@ncsc5.att.com                                                             
ddickins@uoguelph.ca (Daniel F Dickinson)                                     
ddw2@sunbim.be (Dominique de Waleffe)                                         
deane@netcom.com (Dean Edwards)                                               
detig@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christine Detig)                        
dg@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Dipankar Gupta)                                           
dg@sybase.com (David Gould)                                                   
dgf@lehman.com (David G Freudenstein)                                         
dirac!jacobi!rwood@uunet.UU.NET (Richard Wood)                                
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dmjones@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David M. Jones)                                   
dmurdoch@mast.QueensU.CA (Duncan Murdoch)                                     
dorai@owlnet.rice.edu (Dorai Sitaram)                                         
dornan@cs.bris.ac.uk                                                          
dsims@thor.ece.uc.edu (David Sims)                                            
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dvincent@kralizec.zeta.org.au (David Vincent)                                 
ebumow@EBU.ericsson.se (Mickey Williams 66753)                                
ecsgrt@luxor.latrobe.edu.au                                                   
ed@titipu.resun.com (Edward Reid)                                             
ede747v@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (R.S. Wail)                                    
eernst@daimi.aau.dk (Erik Ernst)                                              
ekolin@carlstedt.se (Gunnar Ekolin)                                           
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)                                        
emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus)                                          
esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)                                 
etneo@id.dth.dk (E. Troelsen og N.E. Oestergaard (930201#HHL))                
fcy@intgp1.att.com                                                            
figuei@lutece.rutgers.edu (Francisco Figueirido)                              
fj@iesd.auc.dk (Frank Jensen)                                                 
fjc@werple.apana.org.au (Frank Copeland)                                      
frame@ida.org (Mike Frame)                                                    
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franke@antares.informatik.uni-essen.de (Wolfgang Franke)                      
FRITZ@Gems.VCU.EDU                                                            
gafter@mri.com                                                                
geb@diktyon.han.de (Martin Gebhardt)                                          
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geneo@igor.rational.com (Gene Ouye)                                           
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gerardo@cray.com                                                              
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gorlick@aero.org                                                              
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h.soh@trl.oz.au (Soh Kam Hung)                                                
hagmanti@cps.msu.edu                                                          
hardwick@panix.com (Paul Hardwick)                                            
harrison@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu                                               
heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr)                                 
henrif@es.ele.tue.nl (Henri Faber)                                            
hetrick@phys.uva.nl (Jim Hetrick)                                             
HHBODE@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Hans-Hermann Bode)                       
hjkooy@hkuxa.hku.hk (Drs. H.J. Kooy Jr.)                                      
HUDGINS_JC@corning.com (Jerry C. Hudgins)                                     
hughes@logos.ucs.indiana.edu (Larry Hughes)                                   
humberto@annexstein.csm.uc.EDU (Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga)                       
husfeld@USM.UNI-MUENCHEN.DE                                                   
hzhu@liverpool.ac.uk (hzhu)                                                   
ian@soliton.demon.co.uk (Ian Cargill)                                         
ilanc@mcil.comm.mot.com (Ilan Cohen)                                          
it@ix.de (Ingo T. Storm)                                                      
itf@mcs.anl.gov (Ian Foster)                                                  
Jaime_Guerrero@afs.com                                                        
jan@iqa.ericsson.se (Jan Sandquist)                                           
jboor@cs.umb.edu (Joan Boorstein)                                             
Jean-Claude.Darchen@univ-rennes1.fr                                           
jeremic@griffith.colorado.edu (Boris Jeremic)                                 
Jerry.Wilcox@ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)                                          
jet@nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)                                           
jfortt@dorsai.dorsai.org                                                      
jgk@jet.uk (Jon Krom)                                                         
jgshir@Athena.MIT.EDU                                                         
jham1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz                                                         
jhrv@wimpy.cpe.uchicago.edu (John Kim)                                        
jhughes@techbook.com (John Hughes)                                            
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khm@daimi.aau.dk (Kjeld H|yer Mortensen)                                      
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kmb%cameron@nice.delme.north.de (Kai M. Becker)                               
knudson@cs.UND.NoDak.Edu (Chad Knudson)                                       
kolesar@cis.ohio-state.edu (mark anthony kolesar)                             
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kq@aarhues.dk (Kell Orhoj)                                                    
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kwjung@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Kurt Jung)                                       
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lichtenw@guug.de (Klaus Lichtenwalder)                                        
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lingnau@math.uni-frankfurt.de (Anselm Lingnau)                                
linh@info.polymtl.ca (Linh Minh Hong Dang)                                    
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loofbour@cis.ohio-state.edu (Nathan Loofbourrow)                              
lukka@cc.helsinki.fi (Tuomas J Lukka)                                         
lynbech@daimi.aau.dk (Christian Lynbech)                                      
manis@cs.ubc.ca (Vincent Manis)                                               
maozhuxi@netcom.com (Jun Hong)                                                
marcus@x4u.desy.de (Marcus Speh)                                              
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martin@par.univie.ac.at (Martin Paul)                                         
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meuer@guggen.camax.com (Mark Meuer)                                           
mflll@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dr. Laurence Leff)                                     
mfy@sli.com (Mike Yoder)                                                      
mgfrank@erebus.com (Marc G. Frank)                                            
Michael-Kashket@deshaw.com                                                    
mike@nmr-mike.MGH.Harvard.Edu (Mike Vevea)                                    
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mmcgary@autotester.com (Mike McGary)                                          
mnu@inel.gov (Rick Morneau)                                                   
molagnon@ifremer.fr (Michel Olagnon)                                          
msodhi@AGSM.UCLA.EDU (Mohan Sodhi)                                            
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muir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us (David Muir Sharnoff)                               
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norman@bellcore.com (Norman Ramsey)                                           
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oler@autronica.no (Ole Robert Hestvik)                                        
orton@spacenet.gte.com (Mark Orton)                                           
oususalg@gemini.oscs.montana.edu (Louis Glassy)                               
oz@sis.yorku.ca (Ozan S. Yigit)                                               
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patrick.mcphee@rose.com                                                       
Paul.Hoffman@um.cc.umich.edu                                                  
Paul.Tvete@ii.uib.no                                                          
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pete@minster.york.ac.uk                                                       
pete@seismic.sei.com (Peter Johnson)                                          
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phoffman@netcom.com (Paul E. Hoffman)                                         
PJENSEN@CSI.compuserve.com                                                    
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-- 
Dave Cornejo                                There is nothing so subtle
Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
Fremont, California


From nr@mamba.cs.virginia.edu Fri Dec 20 18:28:41 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Norman Ramsey <nr@mamba.cs.virginia.edu>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.programming.literate,comp.programming
Subject: RFD: moderate comp.programming.literate
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
 moderated group comp.programming.literate (moderates existing group)

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to moderate
the world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.programming.literate.
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Procedural details are below.

Newsgroup lines:
comp.programming.literate	Literate programming and LP tools. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: comp.programming.literate

The newsgroup comp.programming.literate was voted into existence in
September 1993, with charter substantially identical to that given
below.  The title of the newsgroup has led many people to assume that
the newsgroup exists to provide general ``programming literacy.''  As
a result, traffic on the newsgroup is of two separate types that
clearly don't belong together:

  - discussions of literate programming
  - requests for help and other questions for people who are
    presumably ``programming literate''

Some people estimate that three-quarters of posts to
comp.programming.literate are for general programming help.  According
to the charter of the group, these posts are off topic.  On 12 Dec
1996 at the University of Virginia news server, 13 threads were
off-topic, 7 were discussing literate programming, and 2 were
discussing how to reduce the number of off-topic posts.

The proposal is to moderate comp.programming.literate, so it can be
reserved for discussions of literate programming.  General programming
questions will revert to comp.programming or to the many other
newsgroups to which they are often cross-posted.

CHARTER: comp.programming.literate

A forum for the discussion of literate programming.

 (1) To share ideas, questions, experiences, and knowledge about
     the reading and writing of literate programs or more generally
     the presentation of code for human readers (e.g., prettyprinting).

 (2) To discuss the merits of the currently existing literate-
     programming and related tools.

 (3) To discuss the design of new literate-programming and related
     tools.


Moderation Policies:

Any posting that bears a plausible relationship to literate
programming is welcome.  For example, discussion may include
techniques for prettyprinting code or other techniques for documenting
design or code.

Advertising of tools or services related to literate programming
(e.g., offers to review programs for pay) is considered acceptable.
Other advertising is unacceptable.

Background:

The rest of this section presents some background information to help
people identify what topics are related to literate programming.

In an article published in _The Computer Journal_ 27 (1984), 97-111,
Donald E. Knuth proposed a "literate" programming style:

     I believe that the time is ripe for significantly better
     documentation of programs, and that we can best achieve this by
     considering programs to be works of literature. Hence, my title:
     "Literate Programming."

     Let us change our traditional attitude to the construction of
     programs: Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct
     a *computer* what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining
     to *human beings* what we want a computer to do.

     The practitioner of literate programming can be regarded as an
     essayist, whose main concern is with exposition and excellence of
     style. Such an author, with thesaurus in hand, chooses the names
     of variables carefully and explains what each variable means. He
     or she strives for a program that is comprehensible because its
     concepts have been introduced in an order that is best for human
     understanding, using a mixture of formal and informal methods that
     reinforce each other.

There is reasonable (but not unanimous) consensus that a
literate-programming system can be characterized by the following
properties:

 - The compilable program and the publishable documentation should be
   generated *automatically* from a *single* source.

 - The program can be presented in the order that is best for human
   understanding, regardless of any requirements of the programming
   language.

 - The program should be automatically indexed and cross-referenced.

 - The program may be formatted or prettyprinted in a way that makes
   it especially readable.

Existing literate-programming systems support a wide range of
programming languages and documentation systems. Specialized tools
have been written for Ada, Awk, C, C++, Fortran, Modula-2, Modula-3,
Pascal and Scheme, and there are language-independent tools exist that
support almost any programming language (including Perl, sh, and
make).  Documentation systems supported include HTML, TeX, Troff, and
Word for Windows.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.programming.literate

Moderator: David Fox <fox@cat.nyu.edu>
Moderator: Marc van Leeuwen <M.van.Leeuwen@cwi.nl>
Moderator: Mary Bos <maryb@amc.com>
Moderator: Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch>
Moderator: Michael Norrish <Michael.Norrish@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Moderator: Norman Ramsey <nr@cs.virginia.edu>
Moderator: Patrick TJ McPhee <ptjm@io.org>

These moderators were chosen more or less at random from a pool of 14
volunteers.  Many are long-time participants in
comp.programming.literate, and some have made major contributions to
the literate-programming community.  All are easily capable of
identifying off-topic posts.  The group intends to use the
robo-moderation software described at
  http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/robomod/robomod.html
It is anticipated that volunteers will rotate into and out of the
group approximately every six months.

END MODERATOR INFO.


PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved.  The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion
warrants it.  Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".  Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups
news.groups
comp.programming.literate
comp.programming
litprog@shsu.edu (subscription requests to listserv@shsu.edu)

Proponent: Norman Ramsey <nr@cs.virginia.edu>
-- 
Norman Ramsey
http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~nr

From jjd@primenet.com Tue Feb 18 14:28:03 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: jjd@primenet.com (Jim Davis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.programming,comp.programming.literate
Subject: CFV: moderate comp.programming.literate
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
 moderated group comp.programming.literate (moderates existing group)

Newsgroup line:
comp.programming.literate	Literate programming and LP tools. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Mar 1997.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Direct
questions about the proposed group to the proponent.

Proponent: Norman Ramsey <nr@cs.virginia.edu>
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe <grobe@netins.net>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <jjd@primenet.com>

RATIONALE: comp.programming.literate

The newsgroup comp.programming.literate was voted into existence in
September 1993, with charter substantially identical to that given
below.  The title of the newsgroup has led many people to assume that
the newsgroup exists to provide general ``programming literacy.''  As
a result, traffic on the newsgroup is of two separate types that
clearly don't belong together:

  - discussions of literate programming
  - requests for help and other questions for people who are
    presumably ``programming literate''

Some people estimate that three-quarters of posts to
comp.programming.literate are for general programming help.  According
to the charter of the group, these posts are off topic.  On 12 Dec
1996 at the University of Virginia news server, 13 threads were
off-topic, 7 were discussing literate programming, and 2 were
discussing how to reduce the number of off-topic posts.

The proposal is to moderate comp.programming.literate, so it can be
reserved for discussions of literate programming.  General programming
questions will revert to comp..programming or to the many other
newsgroups to which they are often cross-posted.

CHARTER: comp.programming.literate

A forum for the discussion of literate programming.

 (1) To share ideas, questions, experiences, and knowledge about
     the reading and writing of literate programs or more generally
     the presentation of code for human readers (e.g., prettyprinting).

 (2) To discuss the merits of the currently existing literate-
     programming and related tools.

 (3) To discuss the design of new literate-programming and related
     tools.


Moderation Policies:

Any posting that bears a plausible relationship to literate
programming is welcome.  For example, discussion may include
techniques for prettyprinting code or other techniques for documenting
design or code.

Advertising of tools or services related to literate programming
(e.g., offers to review programs for pay) is considered acceptable.
Other advertising is unacceptable.

Moderation will primarily be automatic, by robo-moderator.
Submissions from regular contributors will be accepted immediately,
without human intervention.  The human moderators will examine other
submissions; any submission that conforms to the newsgroup charter
will be accepted, and the person making the submission will be added
to the list of regular contributors (whose posts are automatically
accepted).  In the unlikely event that a regular contributor sends a
number of off-topic posts, that person will be notified by a moderator
and removed from the list of regular contributors.  The exact number
of such posts required to trigger this action is left to the good
judgement of the moderators.  The moderators will continue to accept
on-topic posts from such persons; no person is ever to be prohibited
from posting articles deemed acceptable under this charter.

Background:

The rest of this section presents some background information to help
people identify what topics are related to literate programming.

In an article published in _The Computer Journal_ 27 (1984), 97-111,
Donald E. Knuth proposed a "literate" programming style:

     I believe that the time is ripe for significantly better
     documentation of programs, and that we can best achieve this by
     considering programs to be works of literature. Hence, my title:
     "Literate Programming."

     Let us change our traditional attitude to the construction of
     programs: Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct
     a *computer* what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining
     to *human beings* what we want a computer to do.

     The practitioner of literate programming can be regarded as an
     essayist, whose main concern is with exposition and excellence of
     style. Such an author, with thesaurus in hand, chooses the names
     of variables carefully and explains what each variable means. He
     or she strives for a program that is comprehensible because its
     concepts have been introduced in an order that is best for human
     understanding, using a mixture of formal and informal methods that
     reinforce each other.

There is reasonable (but not unanimous) consensus that a
literate-programming system can be characterized by the following
properties:

 - The compilable program and the publishable documentation should be
   generated *automatically* from a *single* source.

 - The program can be presented in the order that is best for human
   understanding, regardless of any requirements of the programming
   language.

 - The program should be automatically indexed and cross-referenced.

 - The program may be formatted or prettyprinted in a way that makes
   it especially readable.

Existing literate-programming systems support a wide range of
programming languages and documentation systems. Specialized tools
have been written for Ada, Awk, C, C++, Fortran, Modula-2, Modula-3,
Pascal and Scheme, and there are language-independent tools exist that
support almost any programming language (including Perl, sh, and
make).  Documentation systems supported include HTML, TeX, Troff, and
Word for Windows.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.programming.literate

Moderator: David Fox <fox@cat.nyu.edu>
Moderator: Marc van Leeuwen <M.van.Leeuwen@cwi.nl>
Moderator: Mary Bos <maryb@amc.com>
Moderator: Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch>
Moderator: Michael Norrish <Michael.Norrish@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Moderator: Norman Ramsey <nr@cs.virginia.edu>
Moderator: Patrick TJ McPhee <ptjm@io.org>
Administrative contact address: nr@cs.virginia.edu
Article submission address: litprog-mod@cs.virginia.edu

These moderators were chosen more or less at random from a pool of 14
volunteers.  Many are long-time participants in
comp.programming.literate, and some have made major contributions to
the literate-programming community.  All are easily capable of
identifying off-topic posts.  The group intends to use the
robo-moderation software described at
http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/robomod/robomod.html It is
anticipated that volunteers will rotate into and out of the group
approximately every six months.

END MODERATOR INFO.

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From jjd@primenet.com Sat Mar  1 12:04:39 1997
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Subject: 2nd CFV: moderate comp.programming.literate
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
 moderated group comp.programming.literate (moderates existing group)

Newsgroup line:
comp.programming.literate	Literate programming and LP tools. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 11 Mar 1997.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Direct
questions about the proposed group to the proponent.

Proponent: Norman Ramsey <nr@cs.virginia.edu>
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe <grobe@netins.net>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <jjd@primenet.com>

RATIONALE: comp.programming.literate

The newsgroup comp.programming.literate was voted into existence in
September 1993, with charter substantially identical to that given
below.  The title of the newsgroup has led many people to assume that
the newsgroup exists to provide general ``programming literacy.''  As
a result, traffic on the newsgroup is of two separate types that
clearly don't belong together:

  - discussions of literate programming
  - requests for help and other questions for people who are
    presumably ``programming literate''

Some people estimate that three-quarters of posts to
comp.programming.literate are for general programming help.  According
to the charter of the group, these posts are off topic.  On 12 Dec
1996 at the University of Virginia news server, 13 threads were
off-topic, 7 were discussing literate programming, and 2 were
discussing how to reduce the number of off-topic posts.

The proposal is to moderate comp.programming.literate, so it can be
reserved for discussions of literate programming.  General programming
questions will revert to comp..programming or to the many other
newsgroups to which they are often cross-posted.

CHARTER: comp.programming.literate

A forum for the discussion of literate programming.

 (1) To share ideas, questions, experiences, and knowledge about
     the reading and writing of literate programs or more generally
     the presentation of code for human readers (e.g., prettyprinting).

 (2) To discuss the merits of the currently existing literate-
     programming and related tools.

 (3) To discuss the design of new literate-programming and related
     tools.


Moderation Policies:

Any posting that bears a plausible relationship to literate
programming is welcome.  For example, discussion may include
techniques for prettyprinting code or other techniques for documenting
design or code.

Advertising of tools or services related to literate programming
(e.g., offers to review programs for pay) is considered acceptable.
Other advertising is unacceptable.

Moderation will primarily be automatic, by robo-moderator.
Submissions from regular contributors will be accepted immediately,
without human intervention.  The human moderators will examine other
submissions; any submission that conforms to the newsgroup charter
will be accepted, and the person making the submission will be added
to the list of regular contributors (whose posts are automatically
accepted).  In the unlikely event that a regular contributor sends a
number of off-topic posts, that person will be notified by a moderator
and removed from the list of regular contributors.  The exact number
of such posts required to trigger this action is left to the good
judgement of the moderators.  The moderators will continue to accept
on-topic posts from such persons; no person is ever to be prohibited
from posting articles deemed acceptable under this charter.

Background:

The rest of this section presents some background information to help
people identify what topics are related to literate programming.

In an article published in _The Computer Journal_ 27 (1984), 97-111,
Donald E. Knuth proposed a "literate" programming style:

     I believe that the time is ripe for significantly better
     documentation of programs, and that we can best achieve this by
     considering programs to be works of literature. Hence, my title:
     "Literate Programming."

     Let us change our traditional attitude to the construction of
     programs: Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct
     a *computer* what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining
     to *human beings* what we want a computer to do.

     The practitioner of literate programming can be regarded as an
     essayist, whose main concern is with exposition and excellence of
     style. Such an author, with thesaurus in hand, chooses the names
     of variables carefully and explains what each variable means. He
     or she strives for a program that is comprehensible because its
     concepts have been introduced in an order that is best for human
     understanding, using a mixture of formal and informal methods that
     reinforce each other.

There is reasonable (but not unanimous) consensus that a
literate-programming system can be characterized by the following
properties:

 - The compilable program and the publishable documentation should be
   generated *automatically* from a *single* source.

 - The program can be presented in the order that is best for human
   understanding, regardless of any requirements of the programming
   language.

 - The program should be automatically indexed and cross-referenced.

 - The program may be formatted or prettyprinted in a way that makes
   it especially readable.

Existing literate-programming systems support a wide range of
programming languages and documentation systems. Specialized tools
have been written for Ada, Awk, C, C++, Fortran, Modula-2, Modula-3,
Pascal and Scheme, and there are language-independent tools exist that
support almost any programming language (including Perl, sh, and
make).  Documentation systems supported include HTML, TeX, Troff, and
Word for Windows.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.programming.literate

Moderator: David Fox <fox@cat.nyu.edu>
Moderator: Marc van Leeuwen <M.van.Leeuwen@cwi.nl>
Moderator: Mary Bos <maryb@amc.com>
Moderator: Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch>
Moderator: Michael Norrish <Michael.Norrish@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Moderator: Norman Ramsey <nr@cs.virginia.edu>
Moderator: Patrick TJ McPhee <ptjm@io.org>
Administrative contact address: nr@cs.virginia.edu
Article submission address: litprog-mod@cs.virginia.edu

These moderators were chosen more or less at random from a pool of 14
volunteers.  Many are long-time participants in
comp.programming.literate, and some have made major contributions to
the literate-programming community.  All are easily capable of
identifying off-topic posts.  The group intends to use the
robo-moderation software described at
http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/robomod/robomod.html It is
anticipated that volunteers will rotate into and out of the group
approximately every six months.

END MODERATOR INFO.

HOW TO VOTE:

Send email to:  jjd@primenet.com

Your email message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

        I vote YES on comp.programming.literate
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You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL.  ABSTAIN does not affect the
final vote count in any way but is listed in the final voting results.
CANCEL removes any earlier vote and is not listed in the final voting
results.

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One account per person and one
vote per person.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the
votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this
includes votes generated by WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated: If you don't follow these directions then
your vote may not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within several days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure that your
vote is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor
of the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest in
people who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested people defeats this purpose.  Please do not redistribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV will result in those votes being cancelled.  When
in doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION:

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        comp.programming
        comp.programming.literate

comp.programming.literate Bounce List - No need to revote
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beirne@nexus                                                   Beirne Konarski
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From jjd@primenet.com Tue Mar 11 17:30:14 1997
Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back
From: jjd@primenet.com (Jim Davis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.programming,comp.programming.literate
Subject: RESULT: comp.programming.literate passes 227:14
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                                RESULT
       moderated group comp.programming.literate passes 227:14

There were 227 YES votes and 14 NO votes, for a total of 241 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

comp.programming.literate passed on Thu Feb 20 05:58:12 1997.

Newsgroup line:
comp.programming.literate	Literate programming and LP tools. (Moderated)

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Direct questions
about the proposed group to the proponent.

Proponent: Norman Ramsey <nr@cs.virginia.edu>
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe <grobe@netins.net>
Votetaker: Jim Davis <jjd@primenet.com>

RATIONALE: comp.programming.literate

The newsgroup comp.programming.literate was voted into existence in
September 1993, with charter substantially identical to that given
below.  The title of the newsgroup has led many people to assume that
the newsgroup exists to provide general ``programming literacy.''  As
a result, traffic on the newsgroup is of two separate types that
clearly don't belong together:

  - discussions of literate programming
  - requests for help and other questions for people who are
    presumably ``programming literate''

Some people estimate that three-quarters of posts to
comp.programming.literate are for general programming help.  According
to the charter of the group, these posts are off topic.  On 12 Dec
1996 at the University of Virginia news server, 13 threads were
off-topic, 7 were discussing literate programming, and 2 were
discussing how to reduce the number of off-topic posts.

The proposal is to moderate comp.programming.literate, so it can be
reserved for discussions of literate programming.  General programming
questions will revert to comp..programming or to the many other
newsgroups to which they are often cross-posted.

CHARTER: comp.programming.literate

A forum for the discussion of literate programming.

 (1) To share ideas, questions, experiences, and knowledge about
     the reading and writing of literate programs or more generally
     the presentation of code for human readers (e.g., prettyprinting).

 (2) To discuss the merits of the currently existing literate-
     programming and related tools.

 (3) To discuss the design of new literate-programming and related
     tools.


Moderation Policies:

Any posting that bears a plausible relationship to literate
programming is welcome.  For example, discussion may include
techniques for prettyprinting code or other techniques for documenting
design or code.

Advertising of tools or services related to literate programming
(e.g., offers to review programs for pay) is considered acceptable.
Other advertising is unacceptable.

Moderation will primarily be automatic, by robo-moderator.
Submissions from regular contributors will be accepted immediately,
without human intervention.  The human moderators will examine other
submissions; any submission that conforms to the newsgroup charter
will be accepted, and the person making the submission will be added
to the list of regular contributors (whose posts are automatically
accepted).  In the unlikely event that a regular contributor sends a
number of off-topic posts, that person will be notified by a moderator
and removed from the list of regular contributors.  The exact number
of such posts required to trigger this action is left to the good
judgement of the moderators.  The moderators will continue to accept
on-topic posts from such persons; no person is ever to be prohibited
from posting articles deemed acceptable under this charter.

Background:

The rest of this section presents some background information to help
people identify what topics are related to literate programming.

In an article published in _The Computer Journal_ 27 (1984), 97-111,
Donald E. Knuth proposed a "literate" programming style:

     I believe that the time is ripe for significantly better
     documentation of programs, and that we can best achieve this by
     considering programs to be works of literature. Hence, my title:
     "Literate Programming."

     Let us change our traditional attitude to the construction of
     programs: Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct
     a *computer* what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining
     to *human beings* what we want a computer to do.

     The practitioner of literate programming can be regarded as an
     essayist, whose main concern is with exposition and excellence of
     style. Such an author, with thesaurus in hand, chooses the names
     of variables carefully and explains what each variable means. He
     or she strives for a program that is comprehensible because its
     concepts have been introduced in an order that is best for human
     understanding, using a mixture of formal and informal methods that
     reinforce each other.

There is reasonable (but not unanimous) consensus that a
literate-programming system can be characterized by the following
properties:

 - The compilable program and the publishable documentation should be
   generated *automatically* from a *single* source.

 - The program can be presented in the order that is best for human
   understanding, regardless of any requirements of the programming
   language.

 - The program should be automatically indexed and cross-referenced.

 - The program may be formatted or prettyprinted in a way that makes
   it especially readable.

Existing literate-programming systems support a wide range of
programming languages and documentation systems. Specialized tools
have been written for Ada, Awk, C, C++, Fortran, Modula-2, Modula-3,
Pascal and Scheme, and there are language-independent tools exist that
support almost any programming language (including Perl, sh, and
make).  Documentation systems supported include HTML, TeX, Troff, and
Word for Windows.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.programming.literate

Moderator: David Fox <fox@cat.nyu.edu>
Moderator: Marc van Leeuwen <M.van.Leeuwen@cwi.nl>
Moderator: Mary Bos <maryb@amc.com>
Moderator: Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch>
Moderator: Michael Norrish <Michael.Norrish@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Moderator: Norman Ramsey <nr@cs.virginia.edu>
Moderator: Patrick TJ McPhee <ptjm@io.org>
Administrative contact address: nr@cs.virginia.edu
Article submission address: litprog-mod@cs.virginia.edu

These moderators were chosen more or less at random from a pool of 14
volunteers.  Many are long-time participants in
comp.programming.literate, and some have made major contributions to
the literate-programming community.  All are easily capable of
identifying off-topic posts.  The group intends to use the
robo-moderation software described at
http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/robomod/robomod.html It is
anticipated that volunteers will rotate into and out of the group
approximately every six months.

END MODERATOR INFO.

comp.programming.literate Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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100606.2653@CompuServe.COM                                    Robert M. Muench
aazimmer@achilles.net                                              Tony Zimmer
agold@bga.com                                                      Arthur Gold
aj@humbug.org.au                                                 Anthony Towns
ajh@cs.monash.edu.au                                                John Hurst
ajohnson@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca                                    Andrew Johnson
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alan.ralph@ukonline.co.uk                                           Alan Ralph
alan@as.arizona.edu
amoroso@mclink.it                                                Paolo Amoroso
andyl@harlequin.com                                                 Andy Latto
apostolo@platon.ee.duth.gr                                Apostolos Syropoulos
arielle@taronga.com                                         Stephanie da Silva
arne@stargate.gun.de                                          Arne Schirmacher
arnim@ekc.kth.se                                                  Arnim Herbig
avs@daimi.aau.dk                                       Alexandre Valente Sousa
az266@lafn.org
B.Robertson@lancs.ac.uk                                         Bill Robertson
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barry.gaunt@ska.com                                                Barry Gaunt
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beirne@nexus                                                   Beirne Konarski
benedikt@devnull.ruhr.de                                  Benedikt Stockebrand
bignoli@novara.alpcom.it                                       Aurelio Bignoli
bojones@electrotex.com                                          Beauford Jones
brennan@amc.com                                                Michael Brennan
bronne@montefiore.ulg.ac.be                                       Louis Bronne
bushnell@digitalmarket.com                                      David Bushnell
C.P.Jobling@swansea.ac.uk                                     Chris P. Jobling
casiello@ultranet.com                                           Brian Casiello
cballard@server1.santafe.com.ar                               Cesar BALLARDINI
ccarroll@nyx.net                                               Charles Carroll
chd@team.aval.kiev.ua                                      Dmitry I. Cherkasov
chrislee@tus.ius.cs.cmu.edu
chsu@nce.ufrj.br                                                  Chun Yin Hsu
cihendri@uwaterloo.ca                                            Chris Hendrie
cjmb@signal.dra.hmg.gb                                       Christopher Booth
clc5q@cs.virginia.edu                                         Clark L. Coleman
cmsmcq@tigger.cc.uic.edu                                  C M Sperberg-McQueen
coleman@leland.Stanford.EDU                                    Michele Coleman
cpearls@ziplink.net                                                Craig Earls
croyle@gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us                                       Don Croyle
ct@eze22.siemens.co.at                                            Andreas CART
d.love@dl.ac.uk                                                      Dave Love
dak@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de                           David Kastrup
daniel.rybowski@infoboard.be                                   Daniel Rybowski
das16@po.CWRU.Edu                                              Daniel A. Shiel
davec@it.uq.edu.au                                            David Carrington
dc@panix.com                                                 David W. Crawford
dcd@eng.cam.ac.uk                                                 David Dibben
ddw@miscrit.be                                            Dominique de Waleffe
defurnj@glo.be                                                  Jurgen Defurne
degiorgi@inf.ethz.ch                                          Daniele Degiorgi
devries@gksun01.uni-trier.de                                     Sven de Vries
dfan@harmonixmusic.com                                             Dan Schmidt
dib@dra.hmg.gb                                                     David Bruce
DLandhill@aol.com
dragisha@frodo.ho.com
dverrier@esoc.esa.de
DWright@ealaghol.demon.co.uk                                      David Wright
eclectic@onramp.net                                                Bob Bechtel
ecp@io.com                                                      Eric Prestemon
EdB@trellix.com                                                    Ed Blachman
edvande@rosevax.rosemount.com                                   Ed Vandergriff
eggert@twinsun.com                                                 Paul Eggert
ehilsdal@cs.indiana.edu                                          erik hilsdale
ekola@math.kth.se                                                  Tommy Ekola
elliott@iecorp.com                                                Mike Elliott
esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us                                   Eric S. Johansson
euthke@siam.muc.de                                              Ekkehard Uthke
faase@cs.utwente.nl                                           Frans F.J. Faase
fpotargent@compuserve.com                                     Freddy Potargent
frederic.fiquet@gs.com                                         F Fiquet FUTSYS
frob@mpi-sb.mpg.de                                             Fred Oberhauser
fw@cygnus.stuttgart.netsurf.de                                  Florian Weimer
gavan@magna.com.au                                             Gavan Schneider
gerardo@brazos.cray.com                                       Gerardo Cisneros
gerd@acm.org                                                    Gerd Moellmann
Glenn.Strong@cs.tcd.ie                                            Glenn Strong
gonter@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at                                    Gerhard Gonter
grydholt@daimi.aau.dk                                    Jacob Grydholt Jensen
guntermann@iti.informatik..th-darmstadt.de                     Klaus Guntermann
HERMIT@kellis.berlinet.de                                      Bjoern Labitzke
herveus@access.digex.net                               Michael and MJ Houghton
hh299@cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                     Jim Baranovich
hmm@heeg.de                                                 Hans-Martin Mosner
hockemey@wundt.kfunigraz.ac.at                                 Cord Hockemeyer
horwitz@argoscomp.com                                         Samuel A Horwitz
housel@ms7.hinet.net                                           Peter S. Housel
hsmyers@holonet.net                                              Hugh S. Myers
irina@rempt.xs4all.nl                                              Irina Rempt
j-hamer@cs.auckland.ac.nz                                           John Hamer
jackal@nist.gov                                                 Kenneth Snyder
jcf@picasso.inescn.pt                                      Joao Canas Ferreira
jcortis@equinoxusa.com                                            Cortis, John
jdfalk@cybernothing.org
jdg@rahul.net                                                  John David Galt
jennschw@umich.edu                                           Jennifer Schwartz
jesp@intercable.net                                      Jesus Eugenio Sanchez
jgd@cix.compulink.co.uk                                           John Dallman
john@bigbang.avx.com                                              john meisell
jot@visi.com                                                   J. Otto Tennant
jpc1@doc.ic.ac.uk                                               Justin Cormack
jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov                                         J. Porter Clark
jpimentel@nectech.com
jsdy@cais.cais.com                                            Joseph S. D. Yao
kahuna@panix.com                                              Andy Finkenstadt
Kamilo@WriteMe.com                                                      Kamilo
kannan@catarina.usc.edu                                        Kannan Varadhan
keep.dreaming.@spam.losers                                      Stephen Dunhom
kenb@ilinc.com                                             Kenneth S. Brittain
kf@shraero.shraero.co.at                                       Roland Kaufmann
kimdv@netcom.com                                                  Kim DeVaughn
koehler@math.tu-berlin.de                                         Axel Koehler
kossmann@ccinet.ab.ca                                            Bill Kossmann
kowalski@fokus.gmd.de                                           Rafal Kowalski
kragen@tcsi.com                                                 Kragen Sittler
leec@xmission.com                                                Lee Choquette
leew@samson.kean.edu                                            Lee Wittenberg
lemmens@simplex.nl                                              Arthur Lemmens
lippmann@cdc.Informatik.TH-Darmstadt.DE                          Jens Lippmann
list-votes@dream.hb.north.de                                  Martin Schr"oder
long@ireq.ca                                                   Long Nguyen-Duc
loris@ferro.physik.tu-berlin.de                                  Loris Bennett
lymber@ime.usp.br                                      Alexandre Lymberopoulos
M.van.Leeuwen@cwi.nl                                          Marc van Leeuwen
malakm@rpi.edu                                                   Michael Malak
markgray@postoffice.ptd.net                                       Mark T. Gray
martyn@twics.com                                               Martyn Williams
maryb@amc.com                                                         Mary Bos
matuli_a@marlin.navsea.navy.mil                             Alex Matulich 03T1
mauer@math.uiuc.edu                                          Andrew Mauer-Oats
mchenry@tobor.usc.edu                                          Michael McHenry
mclay@cfdlab.ae.utexas.edu                                     Robert T. McLay
mcraig@fornax.berkeley.edu                                          matt craig
Meyers_Chuck@mmac1.lmms.lmco.com                                  Meyers Chuck
mhatz@raven.phs.com                                                  Mike Hatz
Michael.Norrish@cl.cam.ac.uk                                   Michael Norrish
mike@mit.edu                                                 Michael T Decerbo
minyard@acm.org                                                  Corey Minyard
mjd@MATH.AMS.ORG
mlc@iberia.cca.rockwell.com                                       Michael Cook
mlh@zip.com.au                                                Matthew Hannigan
moell@ist.tu-graz.ac.at                                       Markus Oellinger
naddy@mips.pfalz.de                                       Christian Weisgerber
naras@stat.Stanford.EDU                             Balasubramanian Narasimhan
neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch                                        Matthias Neeracher
nemo@gsyc.inf.uc3m.es                                      Fco. J. Ballesteros
nene@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at                                   Ernesto Rico-Schmidt
nick@cimio.co.uk                                                 Nick Waterman
nr@cs.virginia.edu                                               Norman Ramsey
osman@cinternet.net                                            osman buyukisik
paxil@cancom.net                                                        Trevor
pbewig@netcom.com                                                   Phil Bewig
perimath@sn.no                                                 Per I. Mathisen
perry@piermont.com                                            Perry E. Metzger
persson_jens@mail.btj.se
peter@deakin.edu.au                                                Peter Horan
Phil.Boswell@codd-date.co.uk                                      Phil Boswell
phil@vision25.demon.co.uk                                            Phil Hunt
pierre@rahul.net                                               Pierre Uszynski
PJENSEN@CSI.compuserve.com
plugge@biv7.sr.fh-mannheim.de                                           Michel
prahl@ee.ogi.edu                                                   Scott Prahl
ptjm@ican.net                                                Patrick TJ McPhee
pwmiller@motown.lmco.com                                      Philip W. Miller
Raphael.Quinet@eed.ericsson.se                                  Raphael Quinet
rberber@spin.com.mx                                                Rene Berber
rbrito@ime.usp.br                                                Rogerio Brito
reichwja@ENGR.ORST.EDU                                         Dusty Reichwein
remo@sopin.it                                                     Remo Dentato
Richard.Hutchinson@asa.co.uk                                Richard Hutchinson
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
robby@epc.co.uk                                                 Robert Raschke
roberto@eurocontrol.fr                                         Ollivier Robert
romanows@pirates.Armstrong.EDU                                   Steve Romanow
ronnie.grant@mogur.com                                            Ronnie Grant
rsalz@osf.org                                                        Rich Salz
rubino@irisa.fr                                                 Gerardo Rubino
rwhe@apocalypse.org                                          Ronald Hale-Evans
s.tregeagle@dwe.csiro.au                                        Sean Tregeagle
sad@utkux.utcc.utk.edu
sbailin@waves.kevol.com
schlotte@geo.palmod.uni-bremen.de                              Reiner Schlotte
seidel@top.monad.net                                   David & Kathleen Seidel
serge@cbk.waw.pl                                              Sergei D. Petrov
sgkruk@barrow.uwaterloo.ca                                       Serge G. Kruk
silvio@frege.mrg.dist.unige.it                                   Silvio Ranise
simg@indigo.ie                                                     Simon Grant
simon.williams@dsto.defence.gov.au                              Simon Williams
simon@pogner.demon.co.uk                                          Simon Wright
sj@eng.mindspring.net                                            Sudish Joseph
slk@karpes.stu.rpi.edu
source@netcom.com                                                 David Harmon
sperber1@pilot.msu.edu                                           Jason Sperber
srf@pti-us.com                                                   Steve Furlong
stamper@stamper.com                                              Chris Stamper
stephen@stephen.uk.eu.org                                              stephen
stevep@ry.com                                                   Steve Peterson
sthoenna@peak.org                                   A.R. & F.L. Scott-Thoennes
stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz                                     Stuart Yeates
sugarman@world.std.com                                           Steven Garman
t.preymesser@msn.sub.org                                     Thomas Preymesser
tack@draziw.com                                                           Ryan
TanAlpha@aol.com
tausk@ime.usp.br                                           Daniel Victor Tausk
taweil@skat.usc.edu                                                     taweil
tc@gauss.muc.de                                           Matthias Hoelzl (tc)
theedge@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de                             F. Gaertner
thetrekguy@aol.com                                                  Thetrekguy
tony.vignaux@vuw.ac.nz                                             G A Vignaux
tsg@olis.net.au                                                  Brian Danilko
tt@sunfi1.fi.sdm.de                                           Dr. Thomas Tensi
turbell@isy.liu.se
twh@cs.brown.edu                                                   Thomas Heft
u962509@daimi.aau.dk                                        Lars Jesper Riemer
volcheck@acm.org                                                 Emil Volcheck
wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu                                             David Wald
wcp@luppolo.lpds.sublink.org                               Walter C. Pelissero
whesse@mail2.nai.net                                             William Hesse
wje@netcom.com          add "rabbit" to Subject: line to override spamgard{tm}
xlwy01@uxp1.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE                                 werner lemberg
young@mdd..comm.mot.com                                              Gary Young
yuval.peduel@channel1.com                                         Yuval Peduel
zaphod@diku.dk                                               Ole D. M. Lennert
zed@cjnetworks.com                                                 Ned Fleming
zot@ampersand.com                                                  Mark Atwood

Voted No
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afabbro@brokenarrow.us.itd.umich.edu                             Andrew Fabbro
booda@datasync.com                                             Martin H. Booda
c28f62@world.std.com                                               Mark Kramer
derek.clarke@gecm.com                                Derek Clarke 01705 227138
gpr96002@uconnvm.uconn.edu                                           G.P. Ryan
jeb27@cam.ac.uk                                                James Broughton
jlowther@pwa.acusd.edu                                            John Lowther
john1@world.std.com                                                Fred Cherry
marquez@pacbell.net                                              Aaron Marquez
patl@lcs.mit.edu                                           Patrick J. LoPresti
richsong@vcn.bc.ca                                           Richard Songhurst
stainles@bga.com                                                  Dwight Brown
stella@magenta.com                                                      STella
tlawson@amug.org                                                Todd C. Lawson

Abstained
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tim@mks.com                                                   Timothy D. Prime
 
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