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Computer Underground Digest (M) ( comp.society.cu-digest )
 
From [email protected] Fri Jun 19 13:20:12 1992
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From: [email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: RFD: comp.society.cu-digest
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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    PROPOSAL:	comp.society.cu-digest (moderated)

    CHARTER:	The Computer Underground Digest

    SUMMARY:    The proposed newsgroup will be used to distributed the
		Computer Underground Digest.  The CuD is an open forum
		for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
		cracking.  It has been in publication since 1990, and
		is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.

The Computer Underground Digest began publication in early 1990 to
discuss the issues related to computer cracking -- and the crackdown
on cracking.  Shortly thereafter, a gateway was instituted to distribute
CuD via alt.society.cu-digest.  If this proposal passes, the gateway
destination will be changed to comp.society.cu-digest and the
alt.society.cu-digest newsgroup will be decomissioned.

Since the CuD is an edited periodical (a la RISKS Digest), it is best
handled as a moderated newsgroup.  The editors of the CuD are reachable
via Internet mail at the address <[email protected]>.  That
would be used as the `mailpaths' address for the moderated group.

If you have never seen the CuD, volume 4, issue 26 was posted to
alt.society.cu-digest recently.  You might want to check it out.

I asked the editors of the CuD to contribute a brief description
for inclusion in ths RFD.  This is what they provided:

  | Computer underground Digest (or CuD) began in March, 1990, to continue
  | discussion of so-called "hacker crackdowns," especially the
  | Phrack/Craig Neidorf indictment, that Pat Townson (moderator of
  | Telecom Digest) was unable to publish. CuD's editors, Jim Thomas and
  | Gordon Meyer, assumed that CuD would be a temporary forum.  But, as
  | articles came in and the scope of the discussions expanded, CuD has
  | become an established electronic journal.
  | 
  | Although classified as a "hack-symp 'zine" by The Village Voice, CuD
  | encourages articles that reflect a diversity of opinion, politics, and
  | ideology.  CuD is an open forum dedicated to sharing information among
  | computerists and to the presentation and debate of diverse views.
  | Readers are encouraged to submit reasoned articles relating to
  | computer culture and communication.  Discussions of the legal,
  | ethical, social, and political implications of "cyberspace" and
  | computer culture provide the core of CuD articles. The editors
  | strongly encourage debate over the content and direction of computer
  | technology in contemporary society.

I am not involved in the production of the CuD in any way.  I merely
operate the gateway to distribute CuD via USENET.  This proposal is
being made with the knowledge and support of the CuD editors.  I would
be glad to answer questions regarding this RFD or the USENET gateway.
Questions regarding the content of the CuD should be directed to the
editors at <[email protected]>.  Followups have been directed
to news.groups.  Mail replies have been directed to an alias which
reaches both the moderators and myself.  If there is consensus that
this proposal is reasonable, I will bring it to a vote in approximately
two weeks.
-- 
Chip Rosenthal  512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play.  Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development   | have their day.  Let the chips fall where they
<[email protected]>   | may.  I'm going to Disneyland.  -Timbuk 3

From [email protected] Mon Jun 29 16:54:53 1992
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From: [email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.society.cu-digest moderated
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
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Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1992 19:58:13 GMT
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    PROPOSAL:	comp.society.cu-digest

    CHARTER:	The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)

    SUMMARY:    The proposed newsgroup will be used to distribute the
		Computer Underground Digest.  The CuD is an open forum
		for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
		cracking.  It has been in publication since 1990, and
		is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
		The CuD is currently distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.
		If this proposal passes, alt.society.cu-digest will
		be decomissioned.

The initial RFD for comp.society.cu-digest was issued a week ago.
Please refer to posting <[email protected]> for
additional details on the proposal.

Discussion has been light, but entirely favorable.  To date, the only
concern raised to me is the length of the newsgroup name.  My feeling
is that this newsgroup should be anchored within `comp.society', and
about the only feasible alternative would be `comp.society.cud'.  This
issue has actually been hashed out before.  It was discussed way back
when `alt.society.cu-digest' was created, and the `cud' name was
eschewed as something more likely to do with cows.  I am certainly
open to comments and discussion on the naming issue.

Unless there are any additional concerns raised, I plan to procede to
a vote in about a week.  Please do not post or email votes at this
time, they cannot be counted until the call for votes is issued.  Thanks.
-- 
Chip Rosenthal  512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play.  Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development   | have their day.  Let the chips fall where they
<[email protected]>   | may.  I'm going to Disneyland.  -Timbuk 3

From [email protected] Tue Jul 14 00:49:21 1992
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From: [email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: CFV: comp.society.cu-digest moderated
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1992 02:02:36 GMT
Approved: [email protected], [email protected]
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*** Votes will be automatically tabulated by vote counting software.
*** The instructions for submitting a vote are simple, but important.
*** Please review them carefully.  Thanks.

    PROPOSAL:	comp.society.cu-digest

    CHARTER:	The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)

    SUMMARY:    The proposed newsgroup will be used to distribute the
		Computer Underground Digest.  The CuD is an open forum
		for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
		cracking.  It has been in publication since 1990, and
		is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
		The CuD is currently distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.
		If this proposal passes, alt.society.cu-digest will
		be decomissioned.


To vote in favor of the proposed newsgroup:  Send an email message
to [email protected] with the word YES in the subject
of your message.

To vote against of the proposed newsgroup:  Send an email message
to [email protected] with the word NO in the subject
of your message.

The word "YES" or "NO" may be in upper or lower (or MiXeD!) case,
but it *must* appear in the Subject: header of your message.  The
body of the email message will be ignored.  The tabulating software
will send you back a confirmation indicating whether your vote
was counted as a yes or no vote, or whether it was an ambiguous
vote not counted at all.

The polls will open as soon as this message appears in
news.announce.newgroups, and will run through 11:59pm CDT on
Tuesday, August 4.  Occasional reminders will be posted during the
polling period, with a list of names acknowledging valid votes
received.  Actual vote totals will not be disclosed until after
the end of the polling period.

Please direct any inquiries regarding this vote to
[email protected]


The following description is reprinted from the original Request
for Discussion:

The Computer Underground Digest began publication in early 1990 to
discuss the issues related to computer cracking -- and the crackdown
on cracking.  Shortly thereafter, a gateway was instituted to distribute
CuD via alt.society.cu-digest.  If this proposal passes, the gateway
destination will be changed to comp.society.cu-digest and the
alt.society.cu-digest newsgroup will be decomissioned.

Since the CuD is an edited periodical (a la RISKS Digest), it is best
handled as a moderated newsgroup.  The editors of the CuD are reachable
via Internet mail at the address <[email protected]>.  That
would be used as the `mailpaths' address for the moderated group.

If you have never seen the CuD, volume 4, issue 26 was posted to
alt.society.cu-digest recently.  You might want to check it out.

I asked the editors of the CuD to contribute a brief description
for inclusion in ths RFD.  This is what they provided:

  | Computer underground Digest (or CuD) began in March, 1990, to continue
  | discussion of so-called "hacker crackdowns," especially the
  | Phrack/Craig Neidorf indictment, that Pat Townson (moderator of
  | Telecom Digest) was unable to publish. CuD's editors, Jim Thomas and
  | Gordon Meyer, assumed that CuD would be a temporary forum.  But, as
  | articles came in and the scope of the discussions expanded, CuD has
  | become an established electronic journal.
  | 
  | Although classified as a "hack-symp 'zine" by The Village Voice, CuD
  | encourages articles that reflect a diversity of opinion, politics, and
  | ideology.  CuD is an open forum dedicated to sharing information among
  | computerists and to the presentation and debate of diverse views.
  | Readers are encouraged to submit reasoned articles relating to
  | computer culture and communication.  Discussions of the legal,
  | ethical, social, and political implications of "cyberspace" and
  | computer culture provide the core of CuD articles. The editors
  | strongly encourage debate over the content and direction of computer
  | technology in contemporary society.

-- 
Chip Rosenthal  512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play.  Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development   | have their day.  Let the chips fall where they
<[email protected]>   | may.  I'm going to Disneyland.  -Timbuk 3



From [email protected] Mon Jul 20 17:25:56 1992
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From: [email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.society.cu-digest moderated
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 20:44:45 GMT
Approved: [email protected], [email protected]
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*** Votes will be automatically tabulated by vote counting software.
*** The instructions for submitting a vote are simple, but important.
*** Please review them carefully.  Thanks.

--> To those people who have already voted:  ackowledgement of your vote
--> has been emailed back to you.  If you have not received the ack then
--> either your vote was lost on the way here, or the ack was lost on the
--> way back.  Contact me at `cud-vote-request' (not `cud-vote'!) if you
--> have any questions.  A mass confirmation of valid votes received will
--> be posted in about a week, in the 3rd CFV message.  Thanks.

    PROPOSAL:	comp.society.cu-digest

    CHARTER:	The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)

    SUMMARY:    The proposed newsgroup will be used to distribute the
		Computer Underground Digest.  The CuD is an open forum
		for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
		cracking.  It has been in publication since 1990, and
		is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
		The CuD is currently distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.
		If this proposal passes, alt.society.cu-digest will
		be decomissioned.


To vote in favor of the proposed newsgroup:  Send an email message
to [email protected] with the word YES somewhere in the
subject of your message.

To vote against of the proposed newsgroup:  Send an email message
to [email protected] with the word NO somewhere in the
subject of your message.

The word "YES" or "NO" may be in upper or lower (or MiXeD!) case,
but it *must* appear somewhere in the Subject: header of your message.
The body of the email message will be ignored.  The tabulating software
will send you back a confirmation indicating whether your vote was
counted as a yes or no vote, or whether it was an ambiguous vote not
counted at all.

The polls are currently open, and votes are being accepted now through
11:59pm CDT on Tuesday, August 4.  Occasional reminders will be posted
during the polling period, with a list of names acknowledging valid
votes received.  Actual vote totals will not be disclosed until after
the end of the polling period.

Please direct any inquiries regarding this vote to
[email protected]

Please refer to the original CFV or RFD for additional information
on the newsgroup proposal.
-- 
Chip Rosenthal  512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play.  Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development   | have their day.  Let the chips fall where they
<[email protected]>   | may.  I'm going to Disneyland.  -Timbuk 3

From [email protected] Tue Jul 28 17:19:33 1992
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From: [email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.society.cu-digest moderated
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
References: <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:25:09 GMT
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--> This is the final call for votes.  If you have not participated or
--> if your name does not appear in the list below, please get you vote
--> in by Aug 4.

*** Votes will be automatically tabulated by vote counting software.
*** The instructions for submitting a vote are simple, but important.
*** Please review them carefully.  Thanks.

    PROPOSAL:	comp.society.cu-digest

    CHARTER:	The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)

    SUMMARY:    The proposed newsgroup will be used to distribute the
		Computer Underground Digest.  The CuD is an open forum
		for issues relating to the phenomena of computer
		cracking.  It has been in publication since 1990, and
		is widely distributed in a number of electronic forms.
		The CuD is currently distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.
		If this proposal passes, alt.society.cu-digest will
		be decomissioned.

To vote in favor of the proposed newsgroup:  Send an email message
to [email protected] with the word YES somewhere in the
subject of your message.

To vote against of the proposed newsgroup:  Send an email message
to [email protected] with the word NO somewhere in the
subject of your message.

The word "YES" or "NO" may be in upper or lower (or MiXeD!) case,
but it *must* appear somewhere in the Subject: header of your message.
The body of the email message will be ignored.  The tabulating software
will send you back a confirmation indicating whether your vote was
counted as a yes or no vote, or whether it was an ambiguous vote not
counted at all.

The polls are currently open, and votes are being accepted now through
11:59pm CDT on Tuesday, August 4.  Occasional reminders will be posted
during the polling period, with a list of names acknowledging valid
votes received.  Actual vote totals will not be disclosed until after
the end of the polling period.

Please direct all inquiries regarding this vote to
[email protected]  (Please do not mail votes to
that address -- use `[email protected]' for votes.)

Please refer to the original CFV or RFD for additional information
on the newsgroup proposal.

As of Friday 7/23 at 22:50 CDT, 209 votes have been received.  Two of
those votes are ambigiuous and will not be counted in the total.  They
are:

  [email protected]                      Sven Heinicke
  [email protected]               TSUNETOMI

The remaining 207 votes have been tabulated as valid.  Duplicate votes
have been manually removed, and any duplicates in the following list
are mistakes and should be brought to the vote taker's notice.  (In
the event of duplicates, the last received unambiguous vote has been
counted.)  Valid votes have been received from the following people:

  [email protected]                    Anne Balsamo
  [email protected]                  andrew farmer
  [email protected]                   Adrian Cox
  [email protected]                  Mike Swiston
  [email protected]              Dave Grebe
  [email protected]            Andy Finkenstadt
  [email protected]                      Antti Autio
  [email protected]                  
  [email protected]                   Alan Ralph
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  [email protected]              Matthew Mcgehrin
  [email protected]                      David Barr
  [email protected]              Barrett P. Eynon
  [email protected]              Michael H. Riddle
  [email protected]                     Elizabeth Schwartz
  [email protected]                 William F. Mullin
  [email protected]                             Bill Kennedy
  [email protected]                Bill McCormick
  [email protected] Austin Phelps
  [email protected]                  
  [email protected]                 James Salsman
  [email protected]                          Brendan Kehoe
  [email protected]                        
  [email protected]                   bryan o'connor
  [email protected]                Eric Hunt
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]                        Bryan Buus
  [email protected]                 davies
  [email protected]         Bruce W. Mohler
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]                    Chris Galas
  [email protected]                  Christopher Horn
  [email protected]                              Christopher Davis
  [email protected]           
  [email protected]_nephi.bxbmts.bxb.MTS.dec.com     "Ken Coar - Ce que je fais est secre
  [email protected]                Andrei Cogan
  [email protected]                         
  [email protected]                "Ofer Inbar"
  [email protected]                     Roger Crew
  [email protected]                   Joel C. Justen
  [email protected]                   Ryker O' Shea
  [email protected]                       
  [email protected]       Coyt D Watters
  [email protected]                     Mr. Damon Kelly
  [email protected]                 David Hoekman
  [email protected]                       de l`abattoir
  [email protected]                         Rahul Dhesi
  [email protected]                  Dave Joyce
  [email protected]                            Dmitry S. Kohmanyuk
  [email protected]                     
  [email protected]                  David Nelson
  [email protected]                  Doug Luce
  [email protected]                     
  drlecter%[email protected]        
  [email protected]                 Mark Anacker
  [email protected]                 Darren Stalder
  [email protected]                Daniel Weber
  [email protected]                 Wally
  [email protected]                              Edward Bertsch
  [email protected]                   Brian Eck
  [email protected]                   
  [email protected]                        Ed Sinamark
  [email protected]                        "jeremy"
  [email protected]                      Eric A. Litman
  [email protected]                  "Elizabeth M. Reid"
  [email protected]                             Edward Vielmetti
  [email protected]                         Ed Ravin
  [email protected]               Eric Lundquist
  [email protected]                  Ewen McNeill
  [email protected]                 Dwight Lee
  [email protected]                   Howard Fore
  [email protected]                        B. Gabriel Helou
  [email protected]                  Gregory G. Woodbury
  [email protected]                    Greg Black
  [email protected]             Greg Greer
  [email protected]                  
  [email protected]                  Oliver Fink
  [email protected]                "   @}->-->---"
  [email protected]                   Louis Howell
  [email protected]                        Fred Hronicek
  [email protected]                            Helen Trillian Rose
  [email protected]                   Matt Hucke
  [email protected]              Brad Cox
  [email protected]                      Rob Borsari
  [email protected]                          Jan Nicolai Langfeldt
  [email protected]               Jennifer Smith
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]                   Jerry Stratton
  [email protected]           Randell Jesup
  [email protected]                      
  [email protected]                     John G Dobnick
  [email protected]                          John Hawkinson
  [email protected]               John Henders
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]                   Jim Blocker
  [email protected]                        Jeff Kyser
  [email protected]             Jay Maynard
  [email protected]                  Jerry M. Carlin
  [email protected]                      John M. Blasik
  [email protected]                       
  [email protected]                          Jon Pugh
  [email protected]                Jeff Shelly
  [email protected]            John M. Stewart-
  [email protected] Kim DeVaughn
  [email protected]                    James Schultz
  [email protected]                        Karl Anderson
  [email protected]                     Kelly Derek Deyoe
  [email protected]                       Mark Kohler
  [email protected]                     Kragh J. Hertel
  [email protected]         Kurt Jaeger aka PI
  [email protected]                     Richard B. Langston
  [email protected]                          Lefty
  [email protected]             Liz Allen
  [email protected]                            Leonard N. Zubkoff
  [email protected]                    Alan Dudley
  [email protected]                
  [email protected]                   Luciano Mannucci
  [email protected]              Lyndon Nerenberg
  [email protected]           Martien Kuunders
  [email protected]                        Magnus Olsson
  [email protected]                    Sean Malloy
  [email protected]                   Mark F. Cook
  [email protected]                 Mark Osbourne
  [email protected]           Dave Walker
  [email protected]              Alex Martelli
  [email protected]                 "Matthew J. Baya"
  [email protected]                 Michael Paul McBride
  [email protected]                     Matthew Donald Drown
  [email protected]         Bert Medley
  [email protected]                            Michelangelo Grigni
  [email protected]                Michael Rogero Brown
  [email protected]          "Loren J. Miller"
  [email protected]              Miron S. Cuperman
  [email protected]                   Matthew Jude Brown
  [email protected]                 Maurice Forrester
  [email protected]                     
  [email protected]                         Mike Godwin
  [email protected]                         
  [email protected]                SINless
  [email protected]                    "Daniel R. Crowson"
  [email protected]             Leonard J. Schmidt
  [email protected]             Bill Nickless
  [email protected]                   Jason Phelan
  [email protected]                      
  [email protected]                 Bob Kupiec
  [email protected]                   Graham O'Neil
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]       Bill Owens
  [email protected]                   Pat Cain
  [email protected]                      Patrick Lee
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]                Leonard J. Peirce
  [email protected]             Petruz Boonenkamp
  [email protected]                  Paul E. Ford
  [email protected]                       Phiber Optik
  [email protected]                      Fred Heutte
  [email protected]            Joel Plutchak
  [email protected]                       "Peter M. Weiss +1 814 863 1843"
  [email protected]               Mitch Pockrandt
  [email protected]           Glen Pringle
  [email protected]                   
  [email protected]                         Robert A. Carolina
  [email protected]             "Rick DeMattia"
  [email protected]         Robert Berry
  [email protected]                    Richard E. Depew
  [email protected]                     Robert Bruce Findler
  [email protected]             Richard H. Miller
  [email protected]                      Robert M. McPeek
  [email protected]                       Rob J. Nauta
  [email protected]                  Doctor Math
  [email protected]                        
  [email protected]      Russell Schulz
  [email protected]                    Ryan Bayne
  [email protected]           Mike Arms
  [email protected]                   Saul Tannenbaum
  [email protected]                     Derek Schott
  [email protected]                Lyle Scully
  [email protected]                     Seth Breidbart
  [email protected]                Lynda L. True
  [email protected]                Jeffrey Sorensen
  [email protected]                
  [email protected]               Sridhar Venkataraman
  [email protected]                      Steve Rogers
  [email protected]               Stormbringer
  [email protected]                 Stu Labovitz
  [email protected]                 Sascha Wildner
  [email protected]                  "Mark Takacs (Tak)"
  [email protected]                  
  [email protected]                    Thomas Insel
  TK0JUT2%[email protected]         Cu Digest ([email protected])
  tkoppel%[email protected]                  Ted Koppel
  [email protected]                        Andrew Torda
  [email protected]                     
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]                 Real life?  Ha!
  [email protected]                     
  [email protected]                    Matthias Urlichs
  [email protected]                   Ian Dickinson
  [email protected]                      David Lesher
  [email protected]                    ------------------------------------
  [email protected]                     William G. Bunton
  [email protected]           Tom Parker
  [email protected]               David Smith
  [email protected]                     Bill Fischer
  [email protected]                    
  [email protected]                       Sameer Parekh
-- 
Chip Rosenthal  512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play.  Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development   | have their day.  Let the chips fall where they
<[email protected]>   | may.  I'm going to Disneyland.  -Timbuk 3

From [email protected] Fri Aug  7 20:55:40 1992
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From: [email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: RESULT: comp.society.cu-digest passes 247: 13
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Reply-To: [email protected]
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1992 23:33:26 GMT
Approved: [email protected], [email protected]
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The comp.society.cu-digest vote is now complete.  The proposal has
passed YES=247 to NO=13.  Detailed voting results are at the end of
this message.  I believe the voting list is free of duplicate votes.
In the event of duplicate voting, the most recently received unambiguous
vote was counted.

Thanks to all who participated.


=== Note to News Administrators ==============================================

If you maintain a "mailpaths" file, the entry you should use
for the new newsgroup will be:

	comp.society.cu-digest		[email protected]

During a transition period of approximately on month, the CuD will be
cross-posted between the `comp' and the `alt' newsgroup.  Once the
new group is stable, I shall send out `rmgroup' messages for the `alt'
group.  Please do *not* use aliases to map the old `alt' group to the
new `comp' newsgroup.  Thanks.

==============================================================================


    PROPOSAL:	comp.society.cu-digest

    CHARTER:	The Computer Underground Digest (moderated)

    SUMMARY:    This newsgroup will be used to distribute the Computer
		Underground Digest.  The CuD is an open forum for
		issues relating to the phenomena of computer cracking.
		It has been in publication since 1990, and is widely
		distributed in a number of electronic forms.  The CuD
		has been distributed via alt.society.cu-digest.  The
		alt.society.cu-digest newsgroup will be decomissioned
		once the new newsgroup is stable.


=== OFFICIAL VOTE TALLY ===

	Total Votes Cast:      263
	Valid Votes Cast:      260
	
	Ambiguous Votes:         3 (excluded from count)
	Yes Votes:             247 (95.00% of valid votes)
	No Votes:               13 (5.00% of valid votes)
	
	Yes-No Margin:         234
	
	Percentage Test:      pass (is yes/valid >= 66.67%?)
	Margin Test:          pass (is yes-no >= 100?)
	
	VOTE RESULT:          PASS (do both tests pass?)


=== SCAN FOR DUPLICATE VOTES ===

	<no duplicates found>


=== TOP TEN VOTING DOMAINS ===

	   6 ac.uk
	   5 umd.edu
	   5 orst.edu
	   4 syr.edu
	   4 mit.edu
	   4 il.us
	   4 eff.org
	   4 cmu.edu
	   3 upenn.edu
	   3 uio.no


=== DISTRIBUTION OF VOTES RECEIVED ===

	 7/13    9  *****
	 7/14   86  ****************************************
	 7/15   29  **************
	 7/16   10  *****
	 7/17    6  ***
	 7/18    5  ***
	 7/19    5  ***
	 7/20    8  ****
	 7/21   23  ***********
	 7/22   17  ********
	 7/23    5  ***
	 7/24    3  **
	 7/25    3  **
	 7/26    0  *
	 7/27    1  *
	 7/28    6  ***
	 7/29   18  *********
	 7/30   10  *****
	 7/31    8  ****
	 8/01    2  *
	 8/02    5  ***
	 8/03    2  *
	 8/04    2  *


=== OFFICIAL VOTE RECORD ===

	Key:
	  a  ambiguous vote - discarded from total
	  n  no vote
	  y  yes vote

a [email protected]                  Corey Hojka
a [email protected]                      Sven Heinicke
a [email protected]               TSUNETOMI
n [email protected]                            Jim Ault
n [email protected]                 Andrew Robert Volk
n [email protected]           Randell Jesup
n [email protected]                      John M. Blasik
n [email protected]                   Andreas Karrer
n [email protected]                        Magnus Olsson
n [email protected]       Bill Owens
n [email protected]                Leonard J. Peirce
n [email protected]            Joel Plutchak
n [email protected]                      Steve Rogers
n [email protected]                 Stu Labovitz
n [email protected]                     "Terry J. Wood"
n tkoppel%[email protected]                  Ted Koppel
y "kafka"@nluug.nl                         [email protected]
y [email protected]                    Anne Balsamo
y [email protected]                  andrew farmer
y [email protected]                   Adrian Cox
y [email protected]                  Alan Coopersmith
y [email protected]                  Mike Swiston
y [email protected]              Dave Grebe
y [email protected]            Andy Finkenstadt
y [email protected]                      Antti Autio
y [email protected]                  
y [email protected]                   Alan Ralph
y [email protected]                           Audrey Helou
y [email protected]             
y [email protected]              Matthew Mcgehrin
y [email protected]                      David Barr
y [email protected]              Barrett P. Eynon
y [email protected]              Michael H. Riddle
y [email protected]                     Elizabeth Schwartz
y [email protected]                 William F. Mullin
y [email protected]                             Bill Kennedy
y [email protected]                Bill McCormick
y [email protected] Austin Phelps
y [email protected]                   Bjorn Knutsson
y [email protected]                  
y [email protected]                 James Salsman
y [email protected]                          Brendan Kehoe
y [email protected] Bret Johnson
y [email protected]                        
y [email protected]                   bryan o'connor
y [email protected]                Eric Hunt
y [email protected]                          Jesse Buckley
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]                        Bryan Buus
y [email protected]                 davies
y [email protected]         Bruce W. Mohler
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]                    Chris Galas
y [email protected]  Charles Rutledge
y chip                                     Chip Rosenthal
y [email protected]                  Christopher Horn
y [email protected]                              Christopher Davis
y [email protected]           
y [email protected]_nephi.bxbmts.bxb.MTS.dec.com     "Ken Coar - Ce que je fais est secre
y [email protected]                Andrei Cogan
y [email protected]                         
y [email protected]                "Ofer Inbar"
y [email protected]                     Roger Crew
y [email protected]                   Joel C. Justen
y [email protected]                   Ryker O' Shea
y [email protected]                       
y [email protected]       Coyt D Watters
y [email protected]                     Mr. Damon Kelly
y [email protected]                             Donn Hoffman
y [email protected]                 David Hoekman
y [email protected]                             David Stodolsky
y [email protected]                           Death Devil
y [email protected]                       de l`abattoir
y [email protected]                         Rahul Dhesi
y [email protected]                  Dave Joyce
y [email protected]                            Dmitry S. Kohmanyuk
y [email protected]                     
y [email protected]                  David Nelson
y [email protected]               dogbowl
y [email protected]                  Doug Luce
y [email protected]                     
y drlecter%[email protected]        
y [email protected]                 Mark Anacker
y [email protected]                 Darren Stalder
y [email protected]                      
y [email protected]                Daniel Weber
y [email protected]                 Wally
y [email protected]                              Edward Bertsch
y [email protected]                   Brian Eck
y [email protected]                  Alex Zell
y [email protected]                   
y [email protected]                        Ed Sinamark
y [email protected]                        "jeremy"
y [email protected]                      Eric A. Litman
y [email protected]                  "Elizabeth M. Reid"
y [email protected]                             Edward Vielmetti
y [email protected]                         Ed Ravin
y [email protected]               Eric Lundquist
y [email protected]                  Ewen McNeill
y [email protected]                   Fletcher Mattox
y [email protected]                 Dwight Lee
y [email protected]                   Howard Fore
y [email protected]                        B. Gabriel Helou
y [email protected]                  Gregory G. Woodbury
y [email protected]                    Greg Black
y [email protected]                  Christopher Preston
y [email protected]             Greg Greer
y [email protected]                  
y [email protected]                  Oliver Fink
y [email protected]                "   @}->-->---"
y [email protected]        Heiko Schlichting
y [email protected]                   Louis Howell
y [email protected]T                        Fred Hronicek
y [email protected]                            Helen Trillian Rose
y [email protected]                   Matt Hucke
y [email protected]              Brad Cox
y [email protected]                
y [email protected]                      Rob Borsari
y [email protected]                           James Powell
y [email protected]                          Jan Nicolai Langfeldt
y [email protected]               Jennifer Smith
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]                   Jerry Stratton
y [email protected]                      
y [email protected]                     John G Dobnick
y [email protected]                          John Hawkinson
y [email protected]               John Henders
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]                   Jim Blocker
y [email protected]                        Jeff Kyser
y [email protected]             Jay Maynard
y [email protected]                  Jerry M. Carlin
y [email protected]                       
y [email protected]                          Jon Pugh
y [email protected]                Jeff Shelly
y [email protected]            John M. Stewart-
y [email protected]                    Juhana R{s{nen
y [email protected] Kim DeVaughn
y [email protected]                    James Schultz
y [email protected]          Mike Danseglio
y [email protected]               Jim W Lai
y [email protected]                        Karl Anderson
y [email protected]                     Kelly Derek Deyoe
y [email protected]                       Mark Kohler
y [email protected]                     Kragh J. Hertel
y [email protected]         Kurt Jaeger aka PI
y [email protected]                     Richard B. Langston
y [email protected]                        Lars H}kedal
y [email protected]                          Lefty
y [email protected]             Liz Allen
y [email protected]                            Leonard N. Zubkoff
y [email protected]                    Alan Dudley
y [email protected]                
y [email protected]                   Luciano Mannucci
y [email protected]              Lyndon Nerenberg
y [email protected]           Martien Kuunders
y [email protected]                    Sean Malloy
y [email protected]                
y [email protected]                   Mark F. Cook
y [email protected]                 Mark Osbourne
y [email protected]                     Mark H. Weber
y [email protected]           Dave Walker
y [email protected]              Alex Martelli
y [email protected]                   
y [email protected]                 
y [email protected]                 Michael Paul McBride
y [email protected]                     Matthew Donald Drown
y [email protected]         Bert Medley
y [email protected]                            Michelangelo Grigni
y [email protected]                Michael Rogero Brown
y [email protected]           Miguel de Icaza A.
y [email protected]          "Loren J. Miller"
y [email protected]              Miron S. Cuperman
y [email protected]                   Matthew Jude Brown
y [email protected]                 Maurice Forrester
y [email protected]                     
y [email protected]                         Mike Godwin
y [email protected]                         
y [email protected]                SINless
y [email protected]                    "Daniel R. Crowson"
y [email protected]                     Mark AuBuchon
y [email protected]             Leonard J. Schmidt
y [email protected]             Bill Nickless
y [email protected]          
y [email protected]                   Jason Phelan
y [email protected]                      
y [email protected]                 Bob Kupiec
y [email protected]                   Graham O'Neil
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]               210 - John P. Dearing
y [email protected]                   Pat Cain
y [email protected]                      Patrick Lee
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]                             Paul Leyland
y [email protected]             Petruz Boonenkamp
y [email protected]                  Paul E. Ford
y [email protected]                       Phiber Optik
y [email protected]                      Fred Heutte
y [email protected]                       "Peter M. Weiss +1 814 863 1843"
y [email protected]               Mitch Pockrandt
y [email protected]          Porsupah
y [email protected]              Jeffrey  Porten
y [email protected]           Glen Pringle
y [email protected]                   
y [email protected]                     Paul S Chisholm
y [email protected]                         Robert A. Carolina
y [email protected]             "Rick DeMattia"
y [email protected]               Ray Normandeau
y [email protected]         Robert Berry
y [email protected]                    Ron Carter
y [email protected]                    Richard E. Depew
y [email protected]                     Robert Bruce Findler
y [email protected]             Richard H. Miller
y [email protected]                       Neil W Rickert
y [email protected]                      Robert M. McPeek
y [email protected]                       Rob J. Nauta
y [email protected]                  Doctor Math
y [email protected]                        
y [email protected]                 ruman
y [email protected]      Russell Schulz
y [email protected]                    Ryan Bayne
y [email protected]           Mike Arms
y [email protected]                   Saul Tannenbaum
y [email protected]                      doctorgonzo
y [email protected]                     Derek Schott
y [email protected]                 Scott Gregory
y [email protected]                Lyle Scully
y [email protected]                   
y [email protected]                     Seth Breidbart
y [email protected]         Shawn Mccullar
y [email protected]                Lynda L. True
y [email protected]                Jeffrey Sorensen
y [email protected]                
y [email protected]               Sridhar Venkataraman
y [email protected]                        Stig Rune Kristoffersen
y [email protected]               Stormbringer
y [email protected]                 Sascha Wildner
y [email protected]                  "Mark Takacs (Tak)"
y [email protected]                  
y [email protected]                    Thomas Insel
y TK0JUT2%[email protected]         Cu Digest ([email protected])
y [email protected]                        Andrew Torda
y [email protected]                     
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]                 Real life?  Ha!
y [email protected]                          
y [email protected]                        Troy Barbee
y [email protected]                     
y [email protected]                    Matthias Urlichs
y [email protected]                   Ian Dickinson
y [email protected]                      David James
y [email protected]                      David Lesher
y [email protected]                    ------------------------------------
y [email protected]                     
y [email protected]                     William G. Bunton
y [email protected]           Tom Parker
y [email protected]               David Smith
y [email protected]                     Bill Fischer
y [email protected]                    
y [email protected]                    Yaakov Kayman
y [email protected]                       Sameer Parekh
y [email protected]                           Paul Eastham
-- 
Chip Rosenthal  512-482-8260 | Let the wayward children play.  Let the wicked
Unicom Systems Development   | have their day.  Let the chips fall where they
<[email protected]>   | may.  I'm going to Disneyland.  -Timbuk 3

 
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