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From [email protected] Wed Mar  9 23:29:27 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Daniel R. Kegel)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.std.internat,alt.chinese.text,alt.chinese.text.big5
Subject: RFD: comp.software.international
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 25 Feb 1994 16:45:57 -0500
Organization: caltech
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[This is a proposal to create a newsgroup to discuss internationalization
 of software.  Much software- especially on the Internet- still can't
 handle non-English text, let alone mixed language text.  It's time to
 have a newsgroup where people can talk about how to make software work
 across language barriers. -dank]
[This proposal has already been floated in various forms on news.groups,
 and we seem to be settling in on a name for the group.  -dank]

The vote for comp.software.non-latin.east-asian was very close.
I bet many people voted NO because it had a narrow charter and awkward name.

I propose instead the new group comp.software.international.
CHARTER:
    The unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.software.international will provide a 
    forum to discuss software that can handle 'international', i.e. 
    non-English, text.  The encouraged topics will include
    1) How to write, where to find, and how to use internationalized software
    2) What hardware/operating systems support internationalized software,
       (e.g. how do I do Asian word processing on MS-DOS/MacOS/MS-Windows-NT?
       what hardware/operating systems are available in other countries?
       what is DOS/V?  How do I read a font from BIOS?)
    3) How to work with international de jure and de facto standards for 
       representation of text, e.g. ASCII, JIS, Shift-JIS, Big5, EUC, GB2312, 
       KSC5601, ISO2022, ISO10646, and Unicode, and why some standards are
       popular in some countries & not others.
    4) How to process text in various languages (e.g. how do you strip
       vowels from Hebrew to get the canonical spelling?  How does one
       sort Chinese?  What is a locale file?) 

DISCUSSION PERIOD: 25 Feb - 20 Mar
Please comment on whether we need this new newsgroup by posting followup
messages to news.groups.
At the end of this period, if there is enough interest, a call for votes
will be sent to the same groups this RFD was sent to.

WHY WE NEED THIS GROUP:  There is a pressing need for modern software
to be able to handle multiple languages- the user community is now 
international- and existing forums are not adequate:

[email protected], an unmoderated mailing list for discussing
   multi-byte character sets; it suffers from being a mailing list rather 
   than a newsgroup.  Perhaps it could be gatewayed to the new group
   for the benefit of those without Usenet access.

bit.software.international, aka [email protected], a moderated mailing
   list with a very similar charter.  It has recently moved and changed name.
   Status unclear.

comp.std.internat, an unmoderated newsgroup, discusses all manner of 
   standards, and doesn't have much trafic about internationalized software.

[email protected], an unmoderated mailing list for discussing how
   applications on the Internet should represent plain text.  It seems
   to have a very small, quiet readership prone to the occasional screaming
   fit :-)

RELATED RECENT PROPOALS:
comp.software.non-latin.east-asian recently failed its creation vote.
alt.chinese.computing was recently proposed, but I feel there is
enough of a need for international software that we should try to create a
less exclusive group.
comp.software.internat was proposed, but the name was considered confusing,
and comp.software.international was preferred.
comp.software.global was considered uninformative.
comp.software.i18n was preferred by those in the know, but is horribly
obscure.

- Dan Kegel ([email protected])

From [email protected] Tue Mar 22 20:13:53 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.chinese.computing,bit.software.international,comp.std.internat,sci.lang.japan
Subject: CFV: comp.software.international
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Date: 22 Mar 1994 17:25:47 -0500
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
            unmoderated group comp.software.international

NOTE: To vote, please use the ballot at the end of this CFV. Trim your
      response to just the ballot. Please make sure to send your vote to
      "[email protected]".

Newsgroups line:
comp.software.international     Finding, using, writing non-English software.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 12 Apr 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Dan Kegel <[email protected]>.

The vote-taker will send a copy of each CFV to the
<[email protected]> (a mailing list for discussing multi-byte
character sets) and <[email protected]> (a mailing list for
discussing how to represent plain text) shortly after it is posted to
news.announce.newgroups. After the official RESULTs are posted, he
will post an abridged copy of the RESULTs (without the full list of
voters) to those mailing lists.


CHARTER

    The unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.software.international will provide a 
    forum to discuss software that can handle 'international', i.e. 
    non-English, text.  The encouraged topics will include
    1) How to write, where to find, and how to use internationalized software
    2) What hardware/operating systems support internationalized software,
       (e.g. how do I do Asian word processing on MS-DOS/MacOS/MS-Windows-NT?
       what hardware/operating systems are available in other countries?
       what is DOS/V?  How do I read a font from BIOS?  How does X11R6
       support Asian keyboard input methods?)
    3) How to work with international de jure and de facto standards for 
       representation of text, e.g. ASCII, JIS, Shift-JIS, Big5, EUC, GB2312, 
       KSC5601, ISO2022, ISO10646, and Unicode, and why some standards are
       popular in some countries & not others.
    4) How to process text in various languages (e.g. how do you strip
       vowels from Hebrew to get the canonical spelling?  How does one
       sort Chinese?  What is a locale file?) 
    5) What magazines, books, and conferences deal with these issues?
    Legal and marketing issues are not expected to be a big part of the group;
    the intent is to help people find, write, and use non-English mono-
    and multi-lingual software.

RATIONALE (written by Dan Kegel <[email protected]>.)

    WHY WE NEED THIS GROUP:  There is a pressing need for modern software
    to be able to handle multiple languages- the user community is now 
    international- and existing forums are not adequate:

    [email protected], an unmoderated mailing list for discussing
    multi-byte character sets; it suffers from being a mailing list rather 
    than a newsgroup.  Perhaps it could be gatewayed to the new group
    for the benefit of those without Usenet access.

    bit.software.international, aka [email protected], a moderated mailing
    list with a very similar charter.  It has recently moved, but remains
    moderated, and has a slow response time.

    comp.std.internat, an unmoderated newsgroup, discusses all manner of 
    standards, and doesn't have much trafic about internationalized software.

    [email protected], an unmoderated mailing list for discussing how
    applications on the Internet should represent plain text.  It seems
    to have a very small, quiet readership prone to the occasional screaming
    fit :-)

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing
list, and if your newsreader honors the "reply-to" line. Double-check
the address before sending your ballot.

Use the ballot provided at the end of this CFV. Put the word "YES" or
"NO" between the brackets before the group name. Trim your response to
just the ballot, but make sure to send the whole ballot (i.e.
everything between the "=-=-=" lines).

You may also use the word ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not
affect the outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic
vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received
ballots with a personal acknowledgement by mail - if you do not
receive one within several days, try again.  It's your responsibility
to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Each person may vote only once, no matter how many accounts he or she
may have. Also, only one ballot will be accepted from any account, no
matter how many people may share it. If more than one vote is received
>from any person or any account, only the last vote received will be
counted.

Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final
voting results list. All ballots received are kept in the UVV archives
(including "cancelled" and invalid ballots). The vote files are made
available to the moderator of news.announce.newgroups on request. They
may also, at the discretion of the UVV, be made more widely available
if there is a controversy concerning the vote.



BALLOT:
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Give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
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[         ]  comp.software.international
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From [email protected] Fri Apr  1 20:55:37 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.chinese.computing,bit.software.international,comp.std.internat,sci.lang.japan
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.software.international
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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		      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
	    unmoderated group comp.software.international


Newsgroups line:
comp.software.international     Finding, using, writing non-English software.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 12 Apr 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Dan Kegel <[email protected]>.

The vote-taker will send a copy of each CFV to the
<[email protected]> (a mailing list for discussing multi-byte
character sets) and <[email protected]> (a mailing list for
discussing how to represent plain text) shortly after it is posted to
news.announce.newgroups. After the official RESULTs are posted, he
will post an abridged copy of the RESULTs (without the full list of
voters) to those mailing lists.


CHARTER

    The unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.software.international will provide a 
    forum to discuss software that can handle 'international', i.e. 
    non-English, text.  The encouraged topics will include
    1) How to write, where to find, and how to use internationalized software
    2) What hardware/operating systems support internationalized software,
       (e.g. how do I do Asian word processing on MS-DOS/MacOS/MS-Windows-NT?
       what hardware/operating systems are available in other countries?
       what is DOS/V?  How do I read a font from BIOS?  How does X11R6
       support Asian keyboard input methods?)
    3) How to work with international de jure and de facto standards for 
       representation of text, e.g. ASCII, JIS, Shift-JIS, Big5, EUC, GB2312, 
       KSC5601, ISO2022, ISO10646, and Unicode, and why some standards are
       popular in some countries & not others.
    4) How to process text in various languages (e.g. how do you strip
       vowels from Hebrew to get the canonical spelling?  How does one
       sort Chinese?  What is a locale file?) 
    5) What magazines, books, and conferences deal with these issues?
    Legal and marketing issues are not expected to be a big part of the group;
    the intent is to help people find, write, and use non-English mono-
    and multi-lingual software.

RATIONALE (written by Dan Kegel <[email protected]>.)

    WHY WE NEED THIS GROUP:  There is a pressing need for modern software
    to be able to handle multiple languages- the user community is now 
    international- and existing forums are not adequate:

    [email protected], an unmoderated mailing list for discussing
    multi-byte character sets; it suffers from being a mailing list rather 
    than a newsgroup.  Perhaps it could be gatewayed to the new group
    for the benefit of those without Usenet access.

    bit.software.international, aka [email protected], a moderated mailing
    list with a very similar charter.  It has recently moved, but remains
    moderated, and has a slow response time.

    comp.std.internat, an unmoderated newsgroup, discusses all manner of 
    standards, and doesn't have much trafic about internationalized software.

    [email protected], an unmoderated mailing list for discussing how
    applications on the Internet should represent plain text.  It seems
    to have a very small, quiet readership prone to the occasional screaming
    fit :-)

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing
list, and if your newsreader honors the "reply-to" line. Double-check
the address before sending your ballot.

Use the ballot provided at the end of this CFV. Put the word "YES" or
"NO" between the brackets before the group name. Trim your response to
just the ballot, but make sure to send the whole ballot (i.e.
everything between the "=-=-=" lines).

You may also use the word ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not
affect the outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic
vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received
ballots with a personal acknowledgement by mail - if you do not
receive one within several days, try again.  It's your responsibility
to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Each person may vote only once, no matter how many accounts he or she
may have. Also, only one ballot will be accepted from any account, no
matter how many people may share it. If more than one vote is received
>from any person or any account, only the last vote received will be
counted.

Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final
voting results list. All ballots received are kept in the UVV archives
(including "cancelled" and invalid ballots). The vote files are made
available to the moderator of news.announce.newgroups on request. They
may also, at the discretion of the UVV, be made more widely available
if there is a controversy concerning the vote.





BALLOT:

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  Give your real name here:

   Your Vote   Group
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BOUNCED ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

The following people's EMail acknowledgements have bounced (as of
3/31/94). They do *not* need to revote.

If you have not received an acknowledgement, and you are not listed
below, your ballot may not have reached me; please vote again.

comp.software.international Bounce List - No need to revote
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[email protected]                                   Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                                           Tiago Antao
[email protected]                                   Bill Roman

INVALID VOTES

The propoer people have sent invalid votes, and have not superseded
them with valid ones. Please vote again. Be sure to follow the
instructions in this CFV (and be *sure* to use the ballot provided
above). 

Votes in error
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[email protected]                                                           
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                                 
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                           John Delacour
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                 Joel Furr
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                                    Jian Q. Li
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                              Michael Kudryashev
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                     Michele Limon
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                            Neil Rest
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                      Stephen C. Ruppenthal
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                          Toshio Takagi>
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                         Xiao Jun Zhu
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                     Yanping Yuan
   ! No ballot

From [email protected] Tue Apr 19 17:50:03 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.chinese.computing,bit.software.international,comp.std.internat,sci.lang.japan
Subject: RESULT: comp.software.international passes 363:14
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 14 Apr 1994 14:50:53 -0400
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				RESULT
     unmoderated group comp.software.international passes 363:14

There were 363 YES votes and 14 NO votes, for a total of 377 valid votes. 
There were 2 abstains and 19 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 12 Apr 1994.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.

Vote-taker's address:		[email protected] (Andrew Solovay)
Group proponent's address:	[email protected] (Dan Kegel)


Newsgroups line:
comp.software.international     Finding, using, writing non-English software.

CHARTER (culled from the Call for Votes)

    The unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.software.international will provide a 
    forum to discuss software that can handle 'international', i.e. 
    non-English, text.  The encouraged topics will include
    1) How to write, where to find, and how to use internationalized software
    2) What hardware/operating systems support internationalized software,
       (e.g. how do I do Asian word processing on MS-DOS/MacOS/MS-Windows-NT?
       what hardware/operating systems are available in other countries?
       what is DOS/V?  How do I read a font from BIOS?  How does X11R6
       support Asian keyboard input methods?)
    3) How to work with international de jure and de facto standards for 
       representation of text, e.g. ASCII, JIS, Shift-JIS, Big5, EUC, GB2312, 
       KSC5601, ISO2022, ISO10646, and Unicode, and why some standards are
       popular in some countries & not others.
    4) How to process text in various languages (e.g. how do you strip
       vowels from Hebrew to get the canonical spelling?  How does one
       sort Chinese?  What is a locale file?) 
    5) What magazines, books, and conferences deal with these issues?
    Legal and marketing issues are not expected to be a big part of the group;
    the intent is to help people find, write, and use non-English mono-
    and multi-lingual software.


comp.software.international Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                              Peter Heijmens Visser
[email protected]                                             Ying Hum
[email protected]                                                 Kamal Abdali
[email protected]                                                     Al Clark
[email protected]                                              Andries E. Brouwer
[email protected]                                                  Arnie Rusoff
AKUFUK%[email protected]         zeynel basri akufuk ([email protected])
[email protected]                                 Eugenio Sanchez
[email protected]                                        Alan Coopersmith
[email protected]                                                   Alain LaBont<e'>
[email protected]                                                     Thomas Sj|land
[email protected]                                          Anders Lindquist
[email protected]                                          Andr\'as Salamon
[email protected]                                        Andreas L. Opdahl
[email protected]                             Andreas Helke
[email protected]                                         Andrew Ernest
[email protected]                                      Anoosh Hosseini
[email protected]                                           Stuart Aque
[email protected]                                   Arthur Chance
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                            ALi YILDIRIM
[email protected]                                                    Brad Davis
[email protected]                                            Jack Bar-Ness
[email protected]                                                    David Barr
[email protected]                                   Thomas C. Bartlett
[email protected]                                  Jennifer N. Young
[email protected]                     Robert F. Benningfield Jr.
[email protected]                                          Bernd Wiegmann
[email protected]                                          Dirk Jaeckel
[email protected]                                                            BIN LU
[email protected]                                           Dan Birchall
[email protected]                                                  B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                              Bert Kralendonk
[email protected]                                       Bob Leschhorn
[email protected]                                                    Duh?
[email protected]                                            Claude Boucher
[email protected]                                       Eric E. Bowles
[email protected]                                          Ryan Boynton
[email protected]                                             Bing Ran
[email protected]                                          brian spooner
[email protected]                                            Bill Smith
[email protected]                                                     Raid Bulus
[email protected]                                                   Nelson Chin
[email protected]                                            Wei Du
[email protected]                                      Calvin Clark
[email protected]                           Caoimhin O Donnaile
[email protected]                                         Christopher J. Booth
[email protected]                               Christopher Gerteis
[email protected]                               Chamrat Atsawaprecha
[email protected]                                    Jacques Chanel
[email protected]                                         Jianlin Chang
[email protected]                                        Charles Choi
[email protected]                                                   Diane Chen
[email protected]                                     Chien-tzu Chou
[email protected]                                     Chris Rominski
[email protected]                                               Terry Chung
[email protected]                                 Michael Mithis
[email protected]                                Haralambos Mantzaridis
[email protected]                                      peter clitherow
[email protected]                                                  Mike Wilson
[email protected]                                               Colum Twomey
[email protected]                                          Roger Frey
[email protected]                              Cornec ESLOG p8023 BD17
[email protected]                          Dr. Costas Spyropoulos
[email protected]                                              Rene COUGNENC
[email protected]                                    Christopher Bopp
[email protected]                                              Craig Timmerman
[email protected]                                                     Chen, Yilong
[email protected]                                               David Menday
[email protected]                                                  Jon W{tte
[email protected]                                           Walter E. Daniels
[email protected]                                              Dan Kegel
[email protected]                                   David Goldsmith
[email protected]                                                Dorothy Day
[email protected]                                           David DeLaney
[email protected]                                              Dean Wallraff
[email protected]                           Diana Bowden Lane
[email protected]                          Dimitris Kiritsis
[email protected]                                              Dong Liu
[email protected]                                                   Don Gray
[email protected]                                                 Jeff Del Papa
[email protected]                                     Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                       Erik B. Pedersen
[email protected]                                     Lloyd Anderson
[email protected]                                                   Eugene Dorr
[email protected]                                                      Eldad Ganin
[email protected]                                                 Paul Eggert
[email protected]                                      Edward J Hughes
[email protected]               Peter Berner
[email protected]                                                    Edwin Hayward
erezn%csc.cs.technion.ac.il%[email protected]    Erez Nassim
[email protected]                                                  Eric F. Miller
[email protected]                                                     Erik Naggum
[email protected]                                    Erik Hatcher
[email protected]                                                  Espen Ore
[email protected]                                               Manfred Kiefer
[email protected]                                          Francois Coallier
[email protected]                                        Todd J. Finnigan
[email protected]                                          Alain Fontaine
[email protected]                                     Greg Franklin
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                               Fredrik Viklund
fvck2412%[email protected]                     Martin Thierer
[email protected]                                                    Stu Galley
[email protected]                                              Luke Taylor
[email protected]                                 Richard F. Garbaccio
[email protected]                                              Sebastian Gard
[email protected]                                          Gerard GAUTIER
[email protected]                                             G Demetriou
[email protected]                                          George H. Bosworth
[email protected]                                              Matthias Ender
[email protected]                                              Emmanuel Germond
[email protected]                                                Gerrit Visser
[email protected]                                         Gregory G. Woodbury
[email protected]                                       George Heretz
[email protected]                                                Gildas NOEL
[email protected]                                        Gilles Serasset
[email protected]fe.ncsc.mil                                          Gerald Reno
[email protected]                                           Glenn L. Vanderburg
[email protected]                                          Grant Reaber
[email protected]                                     Tim Greenwood
[email protected]                                        Thomas Greve
[email protected]                                                    Gene Thurston
[email protected]                                                      GUO Jin
[email protected]                                          Ken'ichi HANDA
[email protected]                                                Stephen R. Hanna
HART%[email protected]                                Edwin F. Hart
[email protected]                                            Nicholas Heer
[email protected]                                    Heiko Schlichting
[email protected]                                     Milan Hejtmanek
[email protected]                                 Herb Lison, Sybase Engineering
[email protected]                                           Herman Nienhuis
[email protected]                                           Chih-Cheng Ho
[email protected]                                                     H. Peter Anvin
[email protected]                                                      Edwin Voskamp
[email protected]                                            Lars Huttar
[email protected]                                        H. Anthony Ye
[email protected]                                      Ivan CHELEPINE
[email protected]                                                   Ian McFarland
[email protected]                                 Stelios KOTSIOS
[email protected]                                         Aron Insinga
[email protected]                                          HooTung Cheuk
[email protected]                                  Isam Ishaq
ISCYEOGK%[email protected]                              yeo gee kin
[email protected]                                          Alex Khalil
[email protected]                                                                
[email protected]                                                    Jeff Bishop
[email protected]                                        Joel Brogniart
[email protected]                                            Juergen Christoffel
[email protected]                                         Jeffrey Chen
[email protected]                                                    Jenko Hwong
[email protected]                                                Jerry Zorge
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[email protected]                                           Jeroen Hellingman
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[email protected]                                                Nick Kline
[email protected]                                            Knut S. Vikor
[email protected]                                 George Kontaxakis
[email protected]                                               Steven Grimm
[email protected]                                           Kevin T. Rowney
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[email protected]                                              Karen V. Roberts
[email protected]                                        Martin Schr"oder
[email protected]                                      Wilson An
[email protected]                                            Ji-Hong Jiong
[email protected]                                        Suheil I. LAHER
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[email protected]                                            Martin Forssen
[email protected]                                     mansoor Ahmad
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[email protected]                                             Frits Mastik
[email protected]                                   Thomas Mattman
[email protected]                                       Mark Atwood
[email protected]                          Moses A. Boudourides
[email protected]                                      Michael Welsh Duggan
[email protected]                                          Martin J. Du"rst
[email protected]                                      Metin Demirci
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[email protected]                                          Marc E. Gauthier
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[email protected]                                              Peter Mikes
[email protected]                                             Mike Gardner
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[email protected]                                          Asim Mughal
[email protected]                                           Neil Harris
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[email protected]                                           Nickolay Saukh
[email protected]                                           Ned S. VanderVen
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[email protected]                                      Paul H. Wong
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"REC::REC::MRGATE::\"AM::i_higgs\""@rcssob.dnet                      Ian Higgs
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[email protected]                                       Siming Zhan
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[email protected]                                        Azumi Takata
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[email protected]                                    Athanassios Poulakidas
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[email protected]                                          Trin Tantsetthi
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[email protected]                                         Tung-Ho Shih
[email protected]                      Mr. Vangelis Karkaletsis 
[email protected]                                          Fragkiskos Vellis 
[email protected]                                                   Viggo Kann
[email protected]                                             Vijay Raghavendra
[email protected]                                                Craig Villalon
[email protected]                                       Vitali Matsarski
[email protected]                                        Venkataraman Vasan
walra%[email protected]                                              Waldi Ravens
[email protected]                                    Walter Gillett
[email protected]                           Khalid Sarwar Warraich
[email protected]                                                Will Briggs
[email protected]                                         Qiuwen Wu
[email protected]                                                 XiaoFei Wang
[email protected]                                            Xiaokun Zhu
[email protected]                                          Xiaojun Zhu
Yadallee%[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                                 Yanni Jew
[email protected]                                           Tuomas Kaikkonen
[email protected]                                         Francois Yergeau
[email protected]                                              Yongguang Zhang
[email protected]                                    Yannis Hatzopoulos
[email protected]                                          Cho Yun Hin - guojin
[email protected]                                            J. Y. Mantinband
[email protected]                                             Patrick Yu
[email protected]                                            Argiris Goulis

Voted No
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[email protected]                                   Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                        Kenneth P. Crouch, Jr.
[email protected]                                                 Olivier Devuns
[email protected]                                                 Robert Hansen
[email protected]                                             Jim Jaworski
[email protected]                                           Jay Maynard
[email protected]                                             John R. Hendrickson
[email protected]                                        John MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                          Julian Macassey
[email protected]                                                Rich Kasperowski
[email protected]                                                 Rob Vaughn
[email protected]                                       Marc Moorcroft
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                        Ward Q. Bush

Abstained
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[email protected]                                                       Jonathan
[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                                           
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[email protected]                                  Roland L. Behunin
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[email protected]                                                   Betty B. Jean
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                   Barry McGibbon
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[email protected]                                   George Nichols
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   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                           John Delacour
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                 Joel Furr
   ! No ballot
[email protected]                                                    Joyce Pashley
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                              Michael Kudryashev
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[email protected]                                     Michele Limon
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[email protected]                                             A.O. K'o'ker
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[email protected]                                                Can Ozturan
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[email protected]                                               Tom FitzMaurice
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                          Toshio Takagi>
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[email protected]                                     Yanping Yuan
   ! No ballot

 
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