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From [email protected] Thu Mar 11 11:31:40 1993
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From: [email protected] (Chuck Ames)
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Subject: RFD: comp.testing
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SUMMARY:
                     
This is a request for discussion regarding the proposed creation of a new 
moderated newsgroup, possibly called comp.testing.  Comp.testing will be a 
spin-off from comp.software-eng to harbor discussions of testing tools and 
techniques for both hardware and software systems. 


PURPOSE:

Currently, discussions of tools and techniques for software testing take 
place in comp.software-eng.  While testing is inarguably a vital part of 
software engineering, a new group specifically designated for discussions 
of testing issues may be justified for two reasons:

1)  comp.software-eng gets a relatively great deal of traffic.  It may 
not be a bad idea to re-direct some of this traffic.

2)  Usenet does not currently have a newsgroup which seems appropriate 
for discussions of hardware and system testing.  A new newsgroup whose 
charter specifically includes these issues could fill this gap.

CONTENTS:

For the purpose of this discussion, we will assume that a system is 
comprised of hardware, software, people, and procedures.  Comp.testing
should be chartered to include discussions characterized by the following 
list of subjects, compiled from preliminary discussions:

  - system test automation
  - system test planning
  - system test optimization (e.g. minimize regression testing)
  - test tools
  - test metrics
  - measurement technology 
  - nature of testing under various development models (e.g. 
    object-oriented, real time, etc...)
  - testing in a rapid prototyping environment (i.e. sans spec)
  - relationship of various classes/types of tests to requirements, ...
  - conference and symposium announcements
  - the definition of "software testing" and its relationship to SQA and 
       debugging.
  - requirements traceability
  - risk-based testing
  - the most useful form of specifications and functional requirements 
    from the tester's point of view.  
  - testing techniques, e.g., structured testing using control flowgraphs 
    and basis path testing, equivalence class partitioning, boundary value 
    analysis, cause-effect graphing, path predicate testing, data flow 
    testing, program slices, data object state and usage analysis, data 
    flow anomaly analysis, and sensitivity analysis.
  - test coverage criteria, e.g., statement (C1), path,  branch (C2), 
    module (S0), and call-pair (S1) coverage criteria.

All levels of testing for both hardware and software should be considered 
appropriate subject matter.  While it is likely that the group will take 
on a software flavor early on, we should try to generate interest and 
input from people with hardware and system testing experience.  It is 
especially important that we foster discussion of *system* level testing 
issues, since this is the weakest area of our collective knowledge.

If the Usenet community decides that the new group should be moderated,
then I volunteer to serve in that capacity.  (Warning: Campaign starts 
here:)  I work in the spacecraft integration and test organization at the 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory.  Engineers in my section, and within other JPL 
organizations, have a great deal of experience in system level integration 
and test which I would seek to relate in the proposed newsgroup.  In 
addition, NASA's new commitment to technology transfer with Industry and 
Acadamia helps ensure that personnel at JPL and other NASA centers will be 
anxious to do their part in making this newsgroup a valuable resource for 
the entire Usenet community.

RATIONALE:

The system development community is very diverse in the kinds of systems 
we build. From scientific software to industrial machinery, all systems 
require testing.  The number of systems that fall into the hybrid
category - hardware/software/people/procedures - is increasing, but it is
not clear that the focus of testing research is following that shift.  
Little knowledge of system level testing approaches, methods, and tools 
has been codified and made readily available to the testing community.  
The proposed newsgroup, comp.testing, could help fill that gap by 
providing a channel for testing researchers and professionals to exchange 
experiences at all levels, from code fragment or circuit diagram to 
automobile or spacecraft.


ISSUES:

The following issues should be resolved during the discussion:

  - Name:  for starters, how about:
           comp.testing
           comp.system-testing
           comp.qa (quality asurance)
           comp.vv (verification and validation)
      
  - Charter:  What has been left out?  What should be restated?  Excluded?

  - Moderation: should the group be moderated?  If so, by whom?
  
  - Attitude toward vendor publicity: solicited only? strictly forbidden?
  

DISCUSSION PERIOD AND VOTE:

The discussion period will be to 17 April 93.  Please post all
discussion in "news.groups", cross-posting as appropriate.  If a
consensus is reached by the end of the discussion period, a Call for
Votes (CFV) will be posted at that time.  The voting period, in
accordance with Usenet guidelines, will last for 30 days.
-- 
Chuck Ames
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
[email protected]      

From [email protected] Wed Apr 28 18:54:45 1993
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From: Chuck Ames <[email protected]>
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Subject: CFV: comp.software.testing
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             First Call for Votes: comp.software.testing

ABSTRACT

Here we go: Voting period is April 27 through May 27.  To vote please 
send a message with the subject line:

                      comp.software.testing: YES
                                  or
                      comp.software.testing: NO
	
to:
	[email protected]
	
	
DISCUSSION

A request for discussion (RFD) for a new software testing newsgroup
was posted on March 15 with 2nd and 3rd RFDs posted on April 5 and
April 16, respectively.  The group's name (whew!) and charter were 
accepted.  

STATUS

comp.software.testing will be unmoderated.


CHARTER

(duplicated from 3rd RFD)

For the purpose of this discussion, we will assume that a system is 
comprised of hardware, software, people, and procedures.  Comp.testing
should be chartered to include discussions characterized by the following 
list of subjects, compiled from preliminary discussions:

  - system test automation
  - system test planning
  - system test optimization (e.g. minimize regression testing)
  - test tools
  - test metrics
  - measurement technology 
  - nature of testing under various development models (e.g. 
    object-oriented, real time, etc...)
  - testing in a rapid prototyping environment (i.e. sans spec)
  - relationship of various classes/types of tests to requirements, ...
  - conference and symposium announcements
  - the definition of "software testing" and its relationship to SQA and 
       debugging.
  - requirements traceability
  - risk-based testing
  - the most useful form of specifications and functional requirements 
    from the tester's point of view.  
  - testing techniques, e.g., structured testing using control flowgraphs 
    and basis path testing, equivalence class partitioning, boundary
value 
    analysis, cause-effect graphing, path predicate testing, data flow 
    testing, program slices, data object state and usage analysis, data 
    flow anomaly analysis, and sensitivity analysis.
  - test coverage criteria, e.g., statement (C1), path,  branch (C2), 
    module (S0), and call-pair (S1) coverage criteria.

All levels of testing for both hardware and software should be considered 
appropriate subject matter.  While it is likely that the group will take 
on a software flavor early on, we should try to generate interest and 
input from people with hardware and system testing experience.  It is 
especially important that we foster discussion of *system* level testing 
issues, since this is the weakest area of our collective knowledge.

VOTING

The voting period will last from April 27 to May 27 (23:59 PST).  In 
accordance with Usenet Guidelines, at least 2/3 of the votes cast must be 
YES votes, and there must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

To vote, please send a message with the subject line:

                      comp.software.testing: YES
                                  or
                      comp.software.testing: NO

to:
	[email protected]

A "YES" vote will be interpreted as "I vote for the creation of 
comp.software.testing as proposed." and a "NO" vote will be taken to mean 
"I vote against the creation of comp.software.testing as proposed."  
Conditional votes will not be counted.

In the event that more than one vote is received from an individual, only 
the most recent will be counted.

Two additional CFV's will be posted during the voting period and each 
will contain a list of all people who have voted up to that time, however
no indication of how people are voting will be given until the final 
acknowledgement, at which time the full vote will be made public.

SCHEDULE

This CFV was issued April 27.  The voting period will end May 27 at 23:59 
(PST).
-- 
Chuck Ames
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
[email protected]

From [email protected] Tue May 11 08:42:29 1993
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From: [email protected] (Chuck Ames)
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.software.testing
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                Call for Votes: comp.software.testing
                    Second Call and Acknowledgment

ABSTRACT

Voting period is April 27 through May 27.  To vote please send a 
message with the subject line:

                     comp.software.testing: YES
                             or
                     comp.software.testing: NO

to:
	[email protected]
	
The names of all who have voted thus far are listed at the end of this 
post.  If you have voted, please verify that your name is on this list 
and notify me of any discrepancies.

DISCUSSION

A request for discussion (RFD) for a new software testing newsgroup
was posted on March 15 with 2nd and 3rd RFDs posted on April 5 and
April 16, respectively.  The group's name (whew!) and charter were 
accepted.  

STATUS

comp.software.testing will be unmoderated.


CHARTER

(duplicated from 3rd RFD)

For the purpose of this discussion, we will assume that a system 
is comprised of hardware, software, people, and procedures.  
Comp.software.testing should be chartered to include discussions 
characterized by the following list of subjects, compiled from 
preliminary discussions:

  - system test automation
  - system test planning
  - system test optimization (e.g. minimize regression testing)
  - test tools
  - test metrics
  - measurement technology 
  - nature of testing under various development models (e.g. 
    object-oriented, real time, etc...)
  - testing in a rapid prototyping environment (i.e. sans spec)
  - relationship of various classes/types of tests to requirements
  - conference and symposium announcements
  - the definition of "software testing" and its relationship to 
    SQA and debugging.
  - requirements traceability
  - risk-based testing
  - the most useful form of specifications and functional 
    requirements from the tester's point of view.  
  - testing techniques, e.g., structured testing using control 
    flowgraphs and basis path testing, equivalence class 
    partitioning, boundary value analysis, cause-effect graphing, 
    path predicate testing, data flow testing, program slices, data 
    object state and usage analysis, data flow anomaly analysis, 
    and sensitivity analysis.
  - test coverage criteria, e.g., statement (C1), path,  branch 
    (C2), module (S0), and call-pair (S1) coverage criteria.

All levels of testing for both hardware and software should be 
considered appropriate subject matter.  While it is likely that 
the group will take on a software flavor early on, we should try 
to generate interest and input from people with hardware and 
system testing experience.  It is especially important that we 
foster discussion of *system* level testing issues, since this 
is the weakest area of our collective knowledge.

VOTING

The voting period will last from April 27 to May 27 (23:59 PST).  
In accordance with Usenet Guidelines, at least 2/3 of the votes 
cast must be YES votes, and there must be at least 100 more YES 
votes than NO votes.

To vote, please send a message with the subject line:

                      comp.software.testing: YES
                                  or
                      comp.software.testing: NO

to:
	[email protected]

A "YES" vote will be interpreted as "I vote for the creation of 
comp.software.testing as proposed." and a "NO" vote will be taken 
to mean "I vote against the creation of comp.software.testing as 
proposed."  Conditional votes will not be counted.

In the event that more than one vote is received from an individual, 
only the most recent will be counted.

Two additional CFV's will be posted during the voting period and 
each will contain a list of all people who have voted up to that 
time, however no indication of how people are voting will be given 
until the final acknowledgement, at which time the full vote will 
be made public.


SCHEDULE

The original CFV was issued April 27.  The voting period will end May 27 
at 23:59 (PST).


ACKNOWLEDGMENT

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-- 
Chuck Ames
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
[email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Jun  7 10:37:06 1993
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From: Chuck Ames <[email protected]>
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Subject: RESULT: comp.software.testing passes 318:9
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Vote Result: comp.software.testing
----------------------------------

	318 YES	
	  9 NO	
	  1 ABSTAIN	
	-----------
	328 Total

Roughly 97% of all votes received were YES votes and there 309 more YES 
votes than NO votes.
 
All votes received during the voting period are listed below:

 ([email protected]): YES
 ([email protected]): NO
 ([email protected]): YES
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 ([email protected]): YES
 ([email protected]): NO
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Abhay Patil ([email protected]): YES
Adrian Wontroba ([email protected]): YES
Alan Williams ([email protected]): YES
Alan Bleier ([email protected]): YES
Alan R. Weiss ([email protected]): YES
Alice Taylor ([email protected]): YES
Allon Stern ([email protected]): YES
amby ([email protected]): YES
Andrew Klein ([email protected]): YES
Antonia Bertolino ([email protected]): YES
Arnaldo Mandel ([email protected]): YES
Arthur A. Reyes ([email protected]): YES
Arthur Hicken ([email protected]): YES
Arthur Sprecher ([email protected]): YES
B.e.Ayeb ([email protected]): YES
B.J. ([email protected]): YES
Barry Kaplan ([email protected]): YES
Belinda Juran ([email protected]): YES
Bengt-Erik Nygren ([email protected]): YES
Bernard Hatt ([email protected]): YES
bill daniels ([email protected]): YES
Bill Wake ([email protected]): YES
Bob Christ ([email protected]): YES
Bob Horgan ([email protected]): YES
Bob McIlree ([email protected]): YES
Bob Patten ([email protected]): YES
Bob Stratton ([email protected]): YES
Bob Treitman ([email protected]): YES
BONG ([email protected]): YES
Brad Davidson ([email protected]): YES
Brady Schutt ([email protected]): YES
Brent LaVelle ([email protected]): YES
Bret Pettichord ([email protected]): YES
Bruce Tindall ([email protected]): YES
Carla Oexmann ([email protected]): YES
Charlie Trainor ([email protected]): YES
Chin-Peng Choo ([email protected]): YES
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