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From chuck@tsunami.Jpl.Nasa.Gov Thu Mar 11 11:31:40 1993
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From: chuck@tsunami.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Chuck Ames)
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Subject: RFD: comp.testing
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SUMMARY:
                     
This is a request for discussion regarding the proposed creation of a new 
moderated newsgroup, possibly called comp.testing.  Comp.testing will be a 
spin-off from comp.software-eng to harbor discussions of testing tools and 
techniques for both hardware and software systems. 


PURPOSE:

Currently, discussions of tools and techniques for software testing take 
place in comp.software-eng.  While testing is inarguably a vital part of 
software engineering, a new group specifically designated for discussions 
of testing issues may be justified for two reasons:

1)  comp.software-eng gets a relatively great deal of traffic.  It may 
not be a bad idea to re-direct some of this traffic.

2)  Usenet does not currently have a newsgroup which seems appropriate 
for discussions of hardware and system testing.  A new newsgroup whose 
charter specifically includes these issues could fill this gap.

CONTENTS:

For the purpose of this discussion, we will assume that a system is 
comprised of hardware, software, people, and procedures.  Comp.testing
should be chartered to include discussions characterized by the following 
list of subjects, compiled from preliminary discussions:

  - system test automation
  - system test planning
  - system test optimization (e.g. minimize regression testing)
  - test tools
  - test metrics
  - measurement technology 
  - nature of testing under various development models (e.g. 
    object-oriented, real time, etc...)
  - testing in a rapid prototyping environment (i.e. sans spec)
  - relationship of various classes/types of tests to requirements, ...
  - conference and symposium announcements
  - the definition of "software testing" and its relationship to SQA and 
       debugging.
  - requirements traceability
  - risk-based testing
  - the most useful form of specifications and functional requirements 
    from the tester's point of view.  
  - testing techniques, e.g., structured testing using control flowgraphs 
    and basis path testing, equivalence class partitioning, boundary value 
    analysis, cause-effect graphing, path predicate testing, data flow 
    testing, program slices, data object state and usage analysis, data 
    flow anomaly analysis, and sensitivity analysis.
  - test coverage criteria, e.g., statement (C1), path,  branch (C2), 
    module (S0), and call-pair (S1) coverage criteria.

All levels of testing for both hardware and software should be considered 
appropriate subject matter.  While it is likely that the group will take 
on a software flavor early on, we should try to generate interest and 
input from people with hardware and system testing experience.  It is 
especially important that we foster discussion of *system* level testing 
issues, since this is the weakest area of our collective knowledge.

If the Usenet community decides that the new group should be moderated,
then I volunteer to serve in that capacity.  (Warning: Campaign starts 
here:)  I work in the spacecraft integration and test organization at the 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory.  Engineers in my section, and within other JPL 
organizations, have a great deal of experience in system level integration 
and test which I would seek to relate in the proposed newsgroup.  In 
addition, NASA's new commitment to technology transfer with Industry and 
Acadamia helps ensure that personnel at JPL and other NASA centers will be 
anxious to do their part in making this newsgroup a valuable resource for 
the entire Usenet community.

RATIONALE:

The system development community is very diverse in the kinds of systems 
we build. From scientific software to industrial machinery, all systems 
require testing.  The number of systems that fall into the hybrid
category - hardware/software/people/procedures - is increasing, but it is
not clear that the focus of testing research is following that shift.  
Little knowledge of system level testing approaches, methods, and tools 
has been codified and made readily available to the testing community.  
The proposed newsgroup, comp.testing, could help fill that gap by 
providing a channel for testing researchers and professionals to exchange 
experiences at all levels, from code fragment or circuit diagram to 
automobile or spacecraft.


ISSUES:

The following issues should be resolved during the discussion:

  - Name:  for starters, how about:
           comp.testing
           comp.system-testing
           comp.qa (quality asurance)
           comp.vv (verification and validation)
      
  - Charter:  What has been left out?  What should be restated?  Excluded?

  - Moderation: should the group be moderated?  If so, by whom?
  
  - Attitude toward vendor publicity: solicited only? strictly forbidden?
  

DISCUSSION PERIOD AND VOTE:

The discussion period will be to 17 April 93.  Please post all
discussion in "news.groups", cross-posting as appropriate.  If a
consensus is reached by the end of the discussion period, a Call for
Votes (CFV) will be posted at that time.  The voting period, in
accordance with Usenet guidelines, will last for 30 days.
-- 
Chuck Ames
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov      

From chuck@tsunami.Jpl.Nasa.Gov Wed Apr 28 18:54:45 1993
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From: Chuck Ames <chuck@tsunami.Jpl.Nasa.Gov>
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Subject: CFV: comp.software.testing
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             First Call for Votes: comp.software.testing

ABSTRACT

Here we go: Voting period is April 27 through May 27.  To vote please 
send a message with the subject line:

                      comp.software.testing: YES
                                  or
                      comp.software.testing: NO
	
to:
	chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov
	
	
DISCUSSION

A request for discussion (RFD) for a new software testing newsgroup
was posted on March 15 with 2nd and 3rd RFDs posted on April 5 and
April 16, respectively.  The group's name (whew!) and charter were 
accepted.  

STATUS

comp.software.testing will be unmoderated.


CHARTER

(duplicated from 3rd RFD)

For the purpose of this discussion, we will assume that a system is 
comprised of hardware, software, people, and procedures.  Comp.testing
should be chartered to include discussions characterized by the following 
list of subjects, compiled from preliminary discussions:

  - system test automation
  - system test planning
  - system test optimization (e.g. minimize regression testing)
  - test tools
  - test metrics
  - measurement technology 
  - nature of testing under various development models (e.g. 
    object-oriented, real time, etc...)
  - testing in a rapid prototyping environment (i.e. sans spec)
  - relationship of various classes/types of tests to requirements, ...
  - conference and symposium announcements
  - the definition of "software testing" and its relationship to SQA and 
       debugging.
  - requirements traceability
  - risk-based testing
  - the most useful form of specifications and functional requirements 
    from the tester's point of view.  
  - testing techniques, e.g., structured testing using control flowgraphs 
    and basis path testing, equivalence class partitioning, boundary
value 
    analysis, cause-effect graphing, path predicate testing, data flow 
    testing, program slices, data object state and usage analysis, data 
    flow anomaly analysis, and sensitivity analysis.
  - test coverage criteria, e.g., statement (C1), path,  branch (C2), 
    module (S0), and call-pair (S1) coverage criteria.

All levels of testing for both hardware and software should be considered 
appropriate subject matter.  While it is likely that the group will take 
on a software flavor early on, we should try to generate interest and 
input from people with hardware and system testing experience.  It is 
especially important that we foster discussion of *system* level testing 
issues, since this is the weakest area of our collective knowledge.

VOTING

The voting period will last from April 27 to May 27 (23:59 PST).  In 
accordance with Usenet Guidelines, at least 2/3 of the votes cast must be 
YES votes, and there must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

To vote, please send a message with the subject line:

                      comp.software.testing: YES
                                  or
                      comp.software.testing: NO

to:
	chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov

A "YES" vote will be interpreted as "I vote for the creation of 
comp.software.testing as proposed." and a "NO" vote will be taken to mean 
"I vote against the creation of comp.software.testing as proposed."  
Conditional votes will not be counted.

In the event that more than one vote is received from an individual, only 
the most recent will be counted.

Two additional CFV's will be posted during the voting period and each 
will contain a list of all people who have voted up to that time, however
no indication of how people are voting will be given until the final 
acknowledgement, at which time the full vote will be made public.

SCHEDULE

This CFV was issued April 27.  The voting period will end May 27 at 23:59 
(PST).
-- 
Chuck Ames
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov

From chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov Tue May 11 08:42:29 1993
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From: chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov (Chuck Ames)
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.software.testing
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                Call for Votes: comp.software.testing
                    Second Call and Acknowledgment

ABSTRACT

Voting period is April 27 through May 27.  To vote please send a 
message with the subject line:

                     comp.software.testing: YES
                             or
                     comp.software.testing: NO

to:
	chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov
	
The names of all who have voted thus far are listed at the end of this 
post.  If you have voted, please verify that your name is on this list 
and notify me of any discrepancies.

DISCUSSION

A request for discussion (RFD) for a new software testing newsgroup
was posted on March 15 with 2nd and 3rd RFDs posted on April 5 and
April 16, respectively.  The group's name (whew!) and charter were 
accepted.  

STATUS

comp.software.testing will be unmoderated.


CHARTER

(duplicated from 3rd RFD)

For the purpose of this discussion, we will assume that a system 
is comprised of hardware, software, people, and procedures.  
Comp.software.testing should be chartered to include discussions 
characterized by the following list of subjects, compiled from 
preliminary discussions:

  - system test automation
  - system test planning
  - system test optimization (e.g. minimize regression testing)
  - test tools
  - test metrics
  - measurement technology 
  - nature of testing under various development models (e.g. 
    object-oriented, real time, etc...)
  - testing in a rapid prototyping environment (i.e. sans spec)
  - relationship of various classes/types of tests to requirements
  - conference and symposium announcements
  - the definition of "software testing" and its relationship to 
    SQA and debugging.
  - requirements traceability
  - risk-based testing
  - the most useful form of specifications and functional 
    requirements from the tester's point of view.  
  - testing techniques, e.g., structured testing using control 
    flowgraphs and basis path testing, equivalence class 
    partitioning, boundary value analysis, cause-effect graphing, 
    path predicate testing, data flow testing, program slices, data 
    object state and usage analysis, data flow anomaly analysis, 
    and sensitivity analysis.
  - test coverage criteria, e.g., statement (C1), path,  branch 
    (C2), module (S0), and call-pair (S1) coverage criteria.

All levels of testing for both hardware and software should be 
considered appropriate subject matter.  While it is likely that 
the group will take on a software flavor early on, we should try 
to generate interest and input from people with hardware and 
system testing experience.  It is especially important that we 
foster discussion of *system* level testing issues, since this 
is the weakest area of our collective knowledge.

VOTING

The voting period will last from April 27 to May 27 (23:59 PST).  
In accordance with Usenet Guidelines, at least 2/3 of the votes 
cast must be YES votes, and there must be at least 100 more YES 
votes than NO votes.

To vote, please send a message with the subject line:

                      comp.software.testing: YES
                                  or
                      comp.software.testing: NO

to:
	chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov

A "YES" vote will be interpreted as "I vote for the creation of 
comp.software.testing as proposed." and a "NO" vote will be taken 
to mean "I vote against the creation of comp.software.testing as 
proposed."  Conditional votes will not be counted.

In the event that more than one vote is received from an individual, 
only the most recent will be counted.

Two additional CFV's will be posted during the voting period and 
each will contain a list of all people who have voted up to that 
time, however no indication of how people are voting will be given 
until the final acknowledgement, at which time the full vote will 
be made public.


SCHEDULE

The original CFV was issued April 27.  The voting period will end May 27 
at 23:59 (PST).


ACKNOWLEDGMENT

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tatlow@athena.lmo.dec.com (Tom Tatlow)
tda@mac.pacorp.com (Tom Arman)
ted@uunet.uu.net (Ted Krivoruchka)
tensu@cs.tut.fi (Tero Ahtee)
thomas@staff.tc.umn.edu (Thomas D.Gasser)
thssrxl@iitmax.acc.iit.edu (RAVI SHASTRI)
tmerklin@hpmail1.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Teresa Merklin)
toepfer@du9ds4.fb9dv.uni-duisburg.de (Hansjoerg Toepfer)
tom@chelm.hq.ileaf.com (Thomas Gould x3210)
tom@sparcelc.pacorp.com (Tom Neal)
tomc@bouwsma.sps.mot.com (Tom Cunningham)
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
untch@cs.clemson.edu ()
veksler@bedford.progress.com (Mark Veksler)
vmarsch@mv.us.adobe.com (Vonn Marsch)
voges@iai.kfk.de (Udo Voges)
waeselyn@laas.laas.fr ()
wagner@andersen.com (Wags Man)
wakew@jingluo.cs.vt.edu (Bill Wake)
walt@okimicro.oki.com (Walt Weber)
wiegand@sector.kodak.com (Ron Wiegand)
wk01673@worldlink.com ("Lih Yen Hsieh")
wodarz@panther.mot.com (Dennis Wodarz)
wong@mprgate.mpr.ca (Pok Wong)
wood@cadillac.siemens.com (Jim Wood)
woods%robohack.uucp@concert.net (Greg A. Woods)
wright@devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Steve Wright)
yzkcu@cunyvm.bitnet (Yaakov Kayman)
zeitler@esseye.si.com (David Zeitler)
zhang@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Xiaoming Zhang)
zziegler@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Jon Ziegler)
-- 
Chuck Ames
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov

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Vote Result: comp.software.testing
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	318 YES	
	  9 NO	
	  1 ABSTAIN	
	-----------
	328 Total

Roughly 97% of all votes received were YES votes and there 309 more YES 
votes than NO votes.
 
All votes received during the voting period are listed below:

 (aatdev!gmg@cs.utexas.edu): YES
 (balr!vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@clout.chi.il.us): NO
 (barba@patty.gud.siemens.co.at): YES
 (bednarik@iao.fhg.de): YES
 (carter@cs.msstate.edu): YES
 (ckincy@cs.umr.edu): YES
 (davec@cs.uq.oz.au): YES
 (david_carr@transarc.com): YES
 (david_hahn@novell.com): YES
 (dwwx@cbnewsk.att.com): YES
 (ebby@trieste.oas.olivetti.com): YES
 (ellenm@ssd.intel.com): YES
 (ernst@ic.berkeley.edu): YES
 (gibian@talent.ljo.dec.com): YES
 (haselhor@ips.cs.tu-bs.de): YES
 (hausen@gmd.de): YES
 (hira@bellcore.com): YES
 (jon@ephor.tusc.oz.au): YES
 (lauri@telco.com): YES
 (mark-moraes@deshaw.com): YES
 (markp@turin.research.otc.com.au): YES
 (martin.buchholz@erno.de): YES
 (matth@bedford.progress.com): YES
 (meredith@bostech.com): YES
 (mkovacs@mcs.kent.edu): YES
 (neilb@tucumcari.eece.unm.edu): YES
 (nippel@texas.informatik.uni-dortmund.de): YES
 (peteo@trillian.wpd.sgi.com): NO
 (pstroop@cs.uq.oz.au): YES
 (r_mugridge@cs.aukuni.ac.nz): YES
 (salemme@athena.mit.edu): YES
 (ucsdev!apn@attucs.att.com): YES
 (untch@cs.clemson.edu): YES
 (waeselyn@laas.laas.fr): YES
Abhay Patil (abhay@digit.com): YES
Adrian Wontroba (aw1@stade.co.uk): YES
Alan Williams (alanw@bnr.ca): YES
Alan Bleier (bleier@menu.visus.com): YES
Alan R. Weiss (alanw@maze.sps.mot.com): YES
Alice Taylor (alice.taylor@eng.sun.com): YES
Allon Stern (allon@intercon.com): YES
amby (amby@mixcom.mixcom.com): YES
Andrew Klein (andy@bedford.progress.COM): YES
Antonia Bertolino (antonella@iei.pi.cnr.it): YES
Arnaldo Mandel (am@ime.usp.br): YES
Arthur A. Reyes (artreyes@ics.uci.edu): YES
Arthur Hicken (ahicken@parasoft.com): YES
Arthur Sprecher (ams@igor.rational.com): YES
B.e.Ayeb (bechir.el.ayeb@dmi.usherb.ca): YES
B.J. (herbison@lassie.ucx.lkg.dec.com): YES
Barry Kaplan (blk@orbit.dalmatian.com): YES
Belinda Juran (bjuran@cadence.com): YES
Bengt-Erik Nygren (etxbenn@garbo.ericsson.se): YES
Bernard Hatt (bmh@terminus.ericsson.se): YES
bill daniels (bill@banana.dis.fedex.com): YES
Bill Wake (wakew@jingluo.cs.vt.edu): YES
Bob Christ (bobc@stratus.swdc.stratus.com): YES
Bob Horgan (jrh@bellcore.com): YES
Bob McIlree (phoenix!bmcilree@stan.solbourne.com): YES
Bob Patten (saswrp@unx.sas.com): YES
Bob Stratton (strat@intercon.com): YES
Bob Treitman (bob@asdf.hq.ileaf.com): YES
BONG (bong@ccmail.iss.nus.sg): YES
Brad Davidson (bcd@kong.evolving.com): YES
Brady Schutt (brady@schutt.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Brent LaVelle (lavelle@bach.convex.com): YES
Bret Pettichord (bret@ludwig.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Bruce Tindall (sasbmt@unx.sas.com): YES
Carla Oexmann (oexmann@mozart.convex.com): YES
Charlie Trainor (charlie@isgtec.com): YES
Chin-Peng Choo (ccp@oonext.csie.nctu.edu.tw): YES
Chip Rosenthal (chip@chinacat.unicom.com): NO
Chris Turner (c.d.turner@durham.ac.uk): YES
Christian Fleischer (chris@parsytec.de): YES
Christine Hickman (chris@terminus.ericsson.se): YES
Chuck Brunson (chuck.brunson@central.sun.com): YES
Chuck Karish (karish@mindcraft.com): YES
Chuck Markee (chuck@key.amdahl.com): YES
cindy woolworth x3380 (cin@squint.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Claude Huss (claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp): YES
Colin Jitlal (cjitlal@asic.sc.ti.com): YES
D. Brian Kimmel (briank@Ars2.SeaSlug.ORG): YES
dack (dack@permanet.org): YES
Dan Veditz (daniel@borland.com): YES
Dave Barker (dbarker@mulga.awadi.com.au): YES
Dave Bulatek (dave@digicomp.com): YES
Dave Cline (dave@88open.org): YES
Dave Flewitt (davef@mda.ca): YES
Dave L Isenberg (srcnew@world.std.com): YES
Dave Saunders (dave@intercon.com): YES
David B Rodman (drodman@milner.mitre.org): YES
David Boyd (david_boyd@imd.sterling.com): YES
David Bruno (davidb@ttsi.tandem.com): YES
David C Hermsen (hermsend@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov): YES
David Cordes (cordes@athos.cs.ua.edu): YES
David Hatley (david@pf.adied.oz.au): YES
David Klemp (klemp@key.amdahl.com): YES
David Zeitler (zeitler@esseye.si.com): YES
Debi Humphries (debi@silk.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Dennis J. Wilkinson (dwilkinson.cosgci@qmail.umassd.edu): YES
Dennis Wodarz (wodarz@panther.mot.com): YES
Dick Hamlet (hamlet@eecs.ee.pdx.edu): YES
Dom Paniscotti (dominick@khan.protocol.zycad.com): YES
Don Johnson (donj@ingres.com): YES
Don Miller (don.miller@eng.sun.com): YES
Doug Thiele (doug@gbamail.mincom.oz.au): YES
DX504 Andrij Neczwid (andrijn@comm.mot.com): YES
Ed Childs (fluent!epc!epc@dartmouth.edu): YES
Ed McGuire (emcguire@intellection.com): YES
Ed Sarlls (ecs@te02.wg2.waii.com): YES
Ellen Glusman (glusman@opl.com): YES
Eric J. Olson (ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu): NO
Eric Raisters (eric@sierra.com): YES
Erkki P|yh|nen (epoyhone@tele.nokia.fi): YES
Facts are our Friends..... (kambic@iccgcc.cs.hh.ab.com): YES
Francisco Monteiro (francisco.monteiro@delft.sgp.slb.com): YES
Franco Mazzanti (mazzanti@iei.pi.cnr.it): YES
Franz Hofer (se_hofer@rcvie.co.at): YES
Franz Knauseder (@hp4at.eunet.co.at:kna%balu@keba.uucp): YES
Fred Campos (fred@chdasic.sps.mot.com): YES
Fred Mikkelsen (fredm@bedford.progress.com): YES
Gail Murphy (gmurphy@cs.washington.edu): YES
Garrett Colson (colson@opl.com): NO
Gary Whiting (gw@cis.prime.com): YES
GAZ RANDALL LOUIS (gaz@spot.colorado.edu): YES
Geoff Burd (geoff@csi.on.ca): YES
George Joseph (georgej@nova.wpd.sgi.com): YES
George S Kardaras (kardaras@ecn.purdue.edu): YES
George Salonikidis (georgesa@sco.com): YES
Greg A. Woods (woods%robohack.UUCP@concert.net): YES
Gregory C Franklin  (franklig@gas.uug.arizona.edu): YES
Gregory G. Woodbury (ggw@wolves.durham.nc.us): ABSTAIN
Guy Meador (gmeador@su19f.ess.harris.com): YES
h. zirknitzer (@hp4at.eunet.co.at:zirk%bart@keba.uucp): YES
Hal Render (render@massive.uccs.edu): YES
Hansjoerg Toepfer (toepfer@du9ds4.fb9dv.uni-duisburg.de): YES
Harald Grossauer (@hp4at.eunet.co.at:gh%balu@keba.uucp): YES
Hardcore Alaskan (fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu): YES
Harry H Avant (havant@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov): YES
Heinrich Kopp (ch_kopp@rcvie.co.at): YES
Henry Yung The Last In Line (hyung@twg.com): YES
Herbert M Petro (hmpetro@mosaic.uncc.edu): NO
Holly Mahedy (hollym@bedford.progress.com): YES
Homer Franck (franck@bedford.progress.com): YES
Ilan Cohen (ilanc@mcil.comm.mot.com): YES
J Michael Hammond (jmike@mathworks.com): YES
J. Kintscher (beast@netcom.com): YES
J. Scott Farrow (farrow@fido.colorado.edu): YES
James Kandler (James.Kandler@mixcom.mixcom.com): YES
Jan Overbeck (over@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at): YES
Janice Ritter x5444 (ritter@floyd.hq.ileaf.com): YES
jasper (@ada3.ca.boeing.com:jasper@garden.boeing.com): YES
Jean Libera (jean@il.us.swissbank.com): YES
Jeff Thompson (jet@cerf.net): YES
Jere Judd (sasjdj@unx.sas.com): YES
Jeremy Henty (jch@upper.ist.co.uk): YES
Jeremy Shaw (jeremy@plxsun.plx.com): YES
Jim Wood (wood@cadillac.siemens.com): YES
John Braden (braden@lincoln.diag.stratus.com): YES
John E. Baseler (jebasele@hwking.cca.cr.rockwell.com): YES
John Harris (harris@bedford.progress.com): YES
John Harvie (harvie@bedford.progress.com): YES
John Kingsley (john@smcc23.on.bell.ca): YES
John Lehman -- GDP (lehman@george.arc.nasa.gov): YES
John Liptak (jliptak@nsed7.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com): YES
John R. Dougan (jdougan@prodigy.bc.ca): YES
John Shepard (john.shepard@east.sun.com): YES
John Sturtevant (johns@pixel.convex.com): YES
John Wright (johnw@johnwuu.johnwuu.canb.auug.org.au): YES
Jon A. Wilcox (jawilcox@netcom.com): YES
Jon Allen (jon@unx.sas.com): YES
Jon Ziegler (zziegler@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com): YES
Joseph Z. Provo (crimson@wpi.wpi.edu): YES
Joshua Cole (josh@intercon.com): YES
Joshua Levy (joshua@veritas.com): YES
Judy Keeley (jkeeley@clairbelle.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Judy Sturtevant (judys@dhostwo.convex.com): YES
Juergen Nickelsen (nickel@desaster.cs.tu-berlin.de): YES
Julia Haviland (julia@amc.com): YES
Jurgen Botz (jbotz@orixa.mtholyoke.edu): YES
Karan Mehra (mehra@semprini.csee.usf.edu): YES
Katherine Noell (noell@dhostwo.convex.com): YES
Ken Collier (kwc@elden.cse.nau.edu): YES
Ken Mikolajek (mikolaje@ccrs.emr.ca): YES
Kevin Jameson (jameson@cal.isac.ca): YES
Kishor Apte (kishor_a1@verifone.com): YES
Klaus Kluge (kkluge@materna.de): YES
Kon Lovett (kon@digit.com): YES
Krystina Hill (krysia@terminus.ericsson.se): YES
Kurt Horton (kurt.horton@central.sun.com): YES
Larry Enos x5572 (lae@enos.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Lars Lundeg}rd TX/DKF (etxllun@solsta.ericsson.se): YES
Laurie White (law@armstrong.edu): YES
Lee Mellinger (leem@devvax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov): YES
Lih Yen Hsieh (wk01673@worldlink.com): YES
Linda M. Easterbrooks (lmf@gtech.com): YES
Lucy Chubb (lucyc@suite.sw.oz.au): YES
Lynn Robinson (lynn@ras.amdahl.com): YES
Magnus Kempe (magnus.kempe@di.epfl.ch): YES
Manfred Schiefert (ch_schie@rcvie.co.at): YES
Marcus S. Yoo (msy@cadillac.siemens.com): YES
Marianne Becker (mbecker@pixel.convex.com): YES
Mark Cain (mark@cms-stl.com): YES
Mark E. McKain (mckain@enuxha.eas.asu.edu): YES
Mark Heinrick (mheinric@csn.org): YES
Mark J. Kean (mjk@pacorp.com): YES
Mark McWhinney (msm@austin.ibm.com): YES
Mark Swanson (mswanson@bowtie.prime.com): YES
Mark Veksler (veksler@bedford.progress.com): YES
Mark Woodward (mwoodwar@nyx.cs.du.edu): YES
Markus Schoenbucher (scm@nimbus.ethz.ch): YES
Martin Gloeckle (gloeckle@seufert.de): YES
Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS (mmt@redbrick.com): YES
Mercenary Programmer (gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu): YES
Mike Ball (mike@taumet.com): YES
Mike Overstreet (cmo@cs.odu.edu): YES
Mike Watson (mike@terminus.ericsson.se): YES
Milt Fulghum (fulghum@esds.mdc.com): YES
Mitzi Morris (mitzi@cognos.visus.com): YES
Monica Hutchins (moni@cadillac.siemens.com): YES
Murthy N (murthy@digit.com): YES
Nancy Parsons (nancyp@techbook.com): YES
Naren Bala (naren@tekig1.pen.tek.com): YES
Nate Williams (nbw1@midway.uchicago.edu): YES
Nozar Azarakhsh (nozar@key.amdahl.com): YES
Oita C. Coleman (sasocc@unx.sas.com): YES
Panos Livadas (pel@sunrise.cis.ufl.edu): YES
Patricia Horton (horton@dhostwo.convex.com): YES
Paul E. Hoffman (phoffman@netcom.com): YES
Paul Gregory (gregory@zeppelin.convex.com): YES
Paul Hudson (paulh@harlequin.co.uk): YES
Paul Kennedy (brt!paulk@uu.psi.com): NO
Paul Meakin (pam@terminus.ericsson.se): YES
Paul Wikstrom (paulwik@rosevax.rosemount.com): YES
Pete Young (pky@fmg.bt.co.uk): YES
Peter A. Vogel (pvogel@bach.convex.com): YES
Phillip Beiler (sxupjb@endymion.fnma.com): YES
Pok Wong (wong@mprgate.mpr.ca): YES
Poutanen Olavi (olavip@cs.tut.fi): YES
Prasanna Limaye (prasanna.limaye@eng.sun.com): YES
R. P. White (rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil): YES
Ramana K V (ram@digit.com): YES
Randy Bush (randy@psg.com): YES
Raphael Manfredi (ram@acri.fr): YES
RAVI SHASTRI (thssrxl@iitmax.acc.iit.edu): YES
Rex Davis (rex@devnull.mpd.tandem.com): YES
Rich Scire (rss@cadre.com): YES
Richard H. Miller (rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu): NO
Rick Grubin (grubin@thunder.rap.ucar.edu): YES
Rick Innis (rick@sq.com): YES
Rivera, Annabel M (ARivera@jplpost.Jpl.Nasa.Gov): YES
Rob Knauerhase (knauer@cs.uiuc.edu): YES
Robert Ellis (ellis@mozart.convex.com): YES
Robert F. Benningfield (benningf@aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com): NO
Robert Hutchison (bhutchison@alias.com): YES
Robert Kitzberger (rlk@igor.rational.com): YES
Roberto Loro (roberto@eclipse.sublink.org): YES
Rochelle Grober (rocky@key.amdahl.com): YES
Roger Chenoweth (sasrc1@unx.sas.com): YES
Roman Schwartz (schwartz%ppgfr.uucp@germany.eu.net): YES
Ron Peterson (ron@vicorp.com): YES
Ron Wiegand (wiegand@sector.kodak.com): YES
Ronald B. Miller (rbm@pacorp.com): YES
Rose Reynolds x435 (rose@pvi.com): YES
Ross Knights [x4463] (ross@spike.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Royce D. Myers (royce@vxd.ug.eds.com): YES
Sam Goins (sgoins@asic.sc.ti.com): YES
Sarr Blumson (sarr@citi.umich.edu): YES
Satish Popat (satish@terminus.ericsson.se): YES
Satish Subramanian (subraman@cs.umn.edu): YES
Schmidleitner Gottfried (@hp4at.eunet.co.at:sg%balu@keba.uucp): YES
Scott Glasser (glasser@sparcelc.PACorp.com): YES
Scott M McLewin (smclewin@ultrix.ramapo.edu): YES
Sean Dockery (sbdocker@acs.ucalgary.ca): YES
Sharon Peleg (sharon@acri.fr): YES
Shekhar H. Kirani (shekar@cs.umn.edu): YES
Shel Prince (sprince@smtp.xtree.com): YES
Shengru Tu (shengru@cs.uno.edu): YES
sherif el kassas (elkassas@eb.ele.tue.nl): YES
Sherri Leu (leus@anubis.network.com): YES
Shie-Rei Huang (shuang@ipd.hitachi.com): YES
Stephane Barbey (stephane.barbey@di.epfl.ch): YES
Stephen Belt (belt@amex-trs.com): YES
Stephen L Nicoud (stephen@boeing.com): YES
Stephen R. Schach (srs@vuse.vanderbilt.edu): YES
Steve Farmer (stevef@ttsi.tandem.com): YES
Steve Langstaff (srl@terminus.ericsson.se): YES
steve norton (anton@braxton.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Steve Wright (wright@devvax.jpl.nasa.gov): YES
Steven Hebert (shebert@suw3af.ess.harris.com): YES
Sudin Bhat (bhat@andersen.com): YES
Sue McGrath (sassam@unx.sas.com): YES
Sukan Makmuri (sukan@rs.com): YES
suresh krishnajois (sureshk@suntzu.wpd.sgi.com): YES
Suzan Dry Noden (noden@dhostwo.convex.com): YES
Takao Hatazaki (hatazaki@bach.convex.com): YES
Tarak S. Goradia (tarak@cadillac.siemens.com): YES
Tarun Rajput Contractor (tarun.rajput@eng.sun.com): YES
Ted Krivoruchka (ted@uunet.uu.net): YES
Ted Richards (ted@isgtec.com): YES
Teresa Merklin (tmerklin@hpmail1.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com): YES
Tero Ahtee (tensu@cs.tut.fi): YES
Terry Rout (t.rout@cit.gu.edu.au): YES
Thomas Gould x3210 (tom@chelm.hq.ileaf.com): YES
Thomas Parker (thpr_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu): YES
Tim Bunce (timbo@ig.co.uk): YES
Timo Salmi (ts@uwasa.fi): YES
timothy shimeall (shimeall@cs.nps.navy.mil): YES
Todd Bradfute (bradfute@dhostwo.convex.com): YES
Todd Cooper (merk!uvmark!todd): YES
Todd Huffman (huffman@yoko.stat.orst.edu): YES
Todd Montgomery (tmont@cerc.wvu.edu): YES
Tom Arman (tda@mac.pacorp.com): YES
Tom Cunningham (tomc@bouwsma.sps.mot.com): YES
Tom Horton (tom_h@pts.mot.com): YES
Tom Neal (tom@sparcelc.pacorp.com): YES
Tom Tatlow (tatlow@athena.lmo.dec.com): YES
Udo Voges (voges@iai.kfk.de): YES
Vince Mehringer (vince@eye.com): YES
Vivek N Gavaskar (vivek@digit.com): YES
Vonn Marsch (vmarsch@mv.us.adobe.com): YES
W. David Rohwer (rohwerwd@netcom.com): YES
Wags Man (wagner@andersen.com): YES
Walejko, Jim (ncrcae!walejkoj@mmsmtp.columbiasc.ncr.com): YES
Walt Weber (walt@okimicro.oki.com): YES
William J. Menter (wmenter@gdwest.gd.com): YES
Xiaoming Zhang (zhang@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de): YES
Yaakov Kayman (yzkcu@cunyvm.bitnet): YES
-- 
Chuck Ames
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
chuck@tsunami.jpl.nasa.gov

 
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