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Announcements ( comp.sys.atari.announce )
 
From [email protected] Tue Apr  5 16:12:25 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Yat Siu)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.atari.announce moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 5 Apr 1994 14:23:49 -0400
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
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Proposal for a new newsgroup
Request for Discussion: comp.sys.atari.announce

by: Yat Siu ([email protected])
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Group name:	comp.sys.atari.announce
Status:		moderated ([email protected])
Distribution:	world-wide
Summary:	a newsgroup for the product announcement of atari computer
		hard and software or related (eg. clones).

Justification:	

	There are currently comp.sys.atari.st, comp.sys.atari.st.tech,
comp.sys.atari.8bit and comp.sys.atari.advocacy, the first three groups
are discussion forums for their (specific) related hard and software. Product 
announcements in these discussion forums of new releases by either commercial,
shareware groups can often be considered a service but not encouraged. The
atari computer market is not very widely distributed and it is getting
increasingly harder to know more about new products.

	To begin with a product announcement group would encourage the
people to announce their new products for the benefit of all atari computer
users. It will also allow the reader to focus for a new newsgroup only for
product announcements or press releases and will also make the reader more
aware of his/her options.

Charter:

	The proposed group will provide a forum for the announcement and
release of new atari related products: 

* atari computer hard and soft
* commercial as well as shareware or related
* announcement from individual authors, companies or distributors
* press releases 

NOTE

This RFD is being issued in concordance with the guidelines set in the
"How to create a new usenet newsgroup" FAQ regularly posted to 
news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to this article if you have any 
questions about the newsgroup creation.

Unless the discussion indicated a need to resubmit a new RFD, the CFV will
be posted approximately three to four weeks after the posting of this RFD.

This RFD was (cross)-posted to the following groups:
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.sys.atari.st, comp.sys.atari.8bit

Discussion on or about this RFD should be in news.groups 

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed May 11 14:52:03 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.8bit,maus.sys.atari.hardware,maus.sys.atari.software,maus.sys.atari.talk,ctdl.sys.atari.st,fido.ger.atari,fr.comp.sys.atari
Subject: CFV: comp.sys.atari.announce moderated
Followup-To: poster
Date: 9 May 1994 19:10:06 -0400
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Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 31 May 1994 00:00:00 GMT
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		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
	       moderated group comp.sys.atari.announce

Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.announce	Atari related hard/software announcements. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 May 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list <[email protected]>.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Sui <[email protected]>



CHARTER (Yat Siu)

The proposed group will provide a forum for the announcement and
release of new atari related products:

* atari computer hardware and software
* commercial as well as shareware or related
* announcement from individual authors, companies or distributors
* press releases 

Justification:	

There are currently comp.sys.atari.st, comp.sys.atari.st.tech,
comp.sys.atari.8bit and comp.sys.atari.advocacy, the first three
groups are discussion forums for their (specific) related hard and
software. Product announcements in these discussion forums of new
releases by either commercial, shareware groups can often be
considered a service but not encouraged. The atari computer market is
not very widely distributed and it is getting increasingly harder to
know more about new products.

	To begin with a product announcement group would encourage the
people to announce their new products for the benefit of all atari
computer users. It will also allow the reader to focus for a new
newsgroup only for product announcements or press releases and will
also make the reader more aware of his/her options.



HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.sys.atari.announce
      I vote NO on comp.sys.atari.announce

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Mon May 16 22:58:45 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.8bit,maus.sys.atari.hardware,maus.sys.atari.software,maus.sys.atari.talk,ctdl.sys.atari.st,fido.ger.atari,fr.comp.sys.atari
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.atari.announce moderated
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 16 May 1994 21:48:46 -0400
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Reply-To: [email protected] (Ron Dippold Voting Alias)
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                     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
               moderated group comp.sys.atari.announce

Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.announce Atari related hard/software announcements. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 May 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list <[email protected]>.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Sui <[email protected]>



CHARTER (Yat Siu)

The proposed group will provide a forum for the announcement and
release of new atari related products:

* atari computer hardware and software
* commercial as well as shareware or related
* announcement from individual authors, companies or distributors
* press releases 

Yat Siu ([email protected]) will be the moderator.


Justification:  

There are currently comp.sys.atari.st, comp.sys.atari.st.tech,
comp.sys.atari.8bit and comp.sys.atari.advocacy, the first three
groups are discussion forums for their (specific) related hard and
software. Product announcements in these discussion forums of new
releases by either commercial, shareware groups can often be
considered a service but not encouraged. The atari computer market is
not very widely distributed and it is getting increasingly harder to
know more about new products.

        To begin with a product announcement group would encourage the
people to announce their new products for the benefit of all atari
computer users. It will also allow the reader to focus for a new
newsgroup only for product announcements or press releases and will
also make the reader more aware of his/her options.



HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on comp.sys.atari.announce
      I vote NO on comp.sys.atari.announce

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.



comp.sys.atari.announce Bounce List - No need to revote
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[email protected]                                          David Forrai
[email protected]                                                     Jim Ferris
[email protected]                      Konstantinos Xonis
[email protected]                                     Cornelius Krasel

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Tue May 31 20:53:08 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.8bit,maus.sys.atari.hardware,maus.sys.atari.software,maus.sys.atari.talk,ctdl.sys.atari.st,fido.ger.atari,fr.comp.sys.atari
Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.atari.announce moderated passes 266:33
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 31 May 1994 20:51:07 -0400
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				RESULT
	moderated group comp.sys.atari.announce passes 266:33

There were 266 YES votes and 33 NO votes, for a total of 299 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
comp.sys.atari.announce	Atari related hard/software announcements. (Moderated)

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the
proposed group contact Yat Sui <[email protected]>



CHARTER (Yat Siu)

The proposed group will provide a forum for the announcement and
release of new atari related products:

* atari computer hardware and software
* commercial as well as shareware or related
* announcement from individual authors, companies or distributors
* press releases 

Yat Siu ([email protected]) will be the moderator.


Justification:  

There are currently comp.sys.atari.st, comp.sys.atari.st.tech,
comp.sys.atari.8bit and comp.sys.atari.advocacy, the first three
groups are discussion forums for their (specific) related hard and
software. Product announcements in these discussion forums of new
releases by either commercial, shareware groups can often be
considered a service but not encouraged. The atari computer market is
not very widely distributed and it is getting increasingly harder to
know more about new products.

        To begin with a product announcement group would encourage the
people to announce their new products for the benefit of all atari
computer users. It will also allow the reader to focus for a new
newsgroup only for product announcements or press releases and will
also make the reader more aware of his/her options.



comp.sys.atari.announce Final Vote Ack

Do NOT use this as a mailing list.  Voters are not necessarily
interested in receiving email about the subject of the vote, and some
may react rather violently and try to get your account pulled.

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                               Ali E Aydar
[email protected]                                    Michael Current
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[email protected]                                                 Alan Messer
[email protected]                                                          NoRM
[email protected]                      Peter Januschke
[email protected]                                          Yves Pelletier
[email protected]                                       Walter A. Cole
akeady%[email protected]                                        Aidan Keady
[email protected]                                 Alan Brown
[email protected]                                                 Albi Rebmann
[email protected]                        Alexander Bochmann
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[email protected]                                      AL RASHID  SHAHIR
[email protected]                                    Andreas Hoffmann
[email protected]                                                 Andy Latto
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[email protected]                                    Paul W. Zablotski
[email protected]                                          Arch Larizza
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[email protected]                                       Bart Schipper
[email protected]                                             Karim Berrah
[email protected]                                     Bertil Jagard
[email protected]    GORDIE MEYER, ASST. AREA MGR., DELPHI'S ATARI ADVANTAG
[email protected]                                           bilinsky keith
[email protected]                                              brian (b.j.) grier
[email protected]                                      Juergen Bleekmann
[email protected]                                             stephane boisson
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[email protected]                                       Marc CR Bouron
[email protected]                                      Ayukawa Madoka's priest
[email protected]                                            Mickey Boyd
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[email protected]                                     Aliza R. Panitz
[email protected]                                                  nelson chin
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[email protected]                                 Christian Nieber
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[email protected]                                              John Cole
[email protected]                                     Benjamin L. Combee
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[email protected]                                            David L Watson
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[email protected]                                       Franz Urbanski
[email protected]                         Olivier Galibert aka Sarayan
[email protected]                       Gard Eggesboe Abrahamsen
[email protected]                                     Gert van der Knokke
[email protected]                                               Gijs Bok
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grillo%[email protected]                                        Savino Grillo
[email protected]                                                 Geoffrey Spear
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[email protected]                                               James Hague
[email protected]                                    Karl A. Brokstad
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[email protected]                                          Bill Kendrick
[email protected]                                     Richard John Kepper
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[email protected]                                           Klaus Tenter
[email protected]                      Konstantinos Xonis
[email protected]                                     Cornelius Krasel
[email protected]                                 Kevin Tessner
[email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder
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[email protected]                                           Lars Brinkhoff
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[email protected]                                            Martin Bartsch
[email protected]                                             Stefan Traxler
[email protected]                                   Kenneth Matheis
[email protected]                                     Martin Budsjo
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[email protected]                                       Marcus Endberg
[email protected]                            Mario Illgen
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[email protected]                                        Martin Vernon
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[email protected]                             Max Denebian
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[email protected]                                Michael Baffoni
[email protected]                                           Matt McCabe
[email protected]                                               Cesare Gianuzzi
[email protected]                                 Francesco Zanichelli
[email protected]                                           Mark J. Dulcey
[email protected]                                           Christopher Robert Hahn
[email protected]                            Michel Forget
[email protected]                                      Michael Kelsey
[email protected]                                          Michael Depke
[email protected]                                    Michael Neuffer
[email protected]                                          Michael Nolte
[email protected]                                           Michael Wolf
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[email protected]                                           Martin Koehling
[email protected]                                  Martin Kite LDC 2414
[email protected]                                               Allanon
[email protected]                                         Mark Martin
[email protected]                                            Peter Mogensen
[email protected]                                             Mark Perry
[email protected]                                         A. M. Mughal
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[email protected]                                                 Jeroen Nijhof
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[email protected]                                            Nils Kassube
[email protected]                                               nsa software
[email protected]                                Christoph Oberle
[email protected]                                              Ofir Gal
[email protected]                                                 Bob Luneski
[email protected]                       Patrick Palmen      
[email protected]                                  Papadacci Alexandre
[email protected]                                        Alain PARIES
[email protected]                                  Patrick Koehne
[email protected]                         Patrik Sanfridsson
[email protected]                                   Paul Civati
[email protected]                                             Philippe Bouige
pburgel%[email protected]                                             Piet Burgel
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[email protected]                                                 Edwin P Jacques
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[email protected]                                   Michael J. Quinn
[email protected]                                  Richard J Laukam
[email protected]                           Rainer Muehlenstaedt
[email protected]                                          Randy Hosler
[email protected]                                                     Ron Chan
[email protected]                                          Russell Ochocki
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[email protected]                                             Rob Adams TopFM
[email protected]                                      Robert Lechler
[email protected]                                           Robin Gape
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[email protected]                                         Ralf Over
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[email protected]                                            Rick Venable
[email protected]                                       Stefan Berndtsson
[email protected]                                         Steve Taylor
[email protected]                             Harun Scheutzow
[email protected]                                                Sander Stoks
[email protected]                                                  Kevin Savetz
[email protected]                                                 Steve Barnes
[email protected]                         Andreas Schwab
[email protected]                                                 Scott A. Krutsch
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[email protected]                                Ewald Seibert
[email protected]                                    Stanley Wayne Hall
[email protected]                                                 S J Drew
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[email protected]                                                 Sheldon Chang
[email protected]                               Mike Mustaine
[email protected]                                     Stephen Ticehurst
[email protected]                                       Stefan Damerau
[email protected]                                   Stephane Chauveau
[email protected]                                    Stewart.Hilson
[email protected]                                     Stig S{ther Bakken
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[email protected]                                     Sven Hoffmann
[email protected]                                          Xavier Gallagher
[email protected]                                       Patrick Seemann
[email protected]                                                Theo Janssen
[email protected]                                 Timothy Miller (EE)
[email protected]                                        Toby Deinhardt
[email protected]                                      Tommy Pollak
[email protected]                                            Ton de Graaff
[email protected]                                Torgny Lindberg
[email protected]                                               Trevor Ingham
[email protected]                                      Ton van Overbeek
[email protected]                                         Hans Veneman
[email protected]                                Vincent Lefevre
walra%[email protected]                                              Waldi Ravens
[email protected]                                      Walsh_J.
[email protected]                                 Walter Loepsinger
[email protected]                                    Warwick Allison
[email protected]                                         Doug Boyce
[email protected]                                 Jeff Weiner
[email protected]                                   Michael A. White
[email protected]                               Ylva Budsjoe
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Voted No
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[email protected]                                       F. P. Adams, Jr.
[email protected]                                Anders M Jorgensen
[email protected]                         Stefan Antersberger
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                    Mark Kupferman
[email protected]                                   James R. Gilbert
[email protected]           Chris "ASCII Console Monster Man" Jackson
[email protected]                                         Chris Marble
[email protected]                                              
[email protected]                                                 David Conner
[email protected]                                                 Olivier Devuns
[email protected]                                                 Don Maple
[email protected]                                     Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                  Georg Schwarz
[email protected]                                        John Grohol
HD0022%[email protected]                           Chip Dunham
[email protected]                                              Roger Hakansson
[email protected]                                   mary-frances  jagod
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                              Kari E. Hurtta
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[email protected]                                          Frank Bartels
[email protected]                                                 Kregg Brooks
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                         Mark O'Bryan
[email protected]                                                       
[email protected]                                       Russ Gilbert
[email protected]                                        Roger Burrows
[email protected]                                             THE PRINCE
[email protected]                                        IRA SMAILER
[email protected]                                               Steve Rogers
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                        Ward F. Bush

Abstained
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[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS

 
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