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From [email protected] Mon Mar 29 20:41:32 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sys5.misc
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.hp reorganizaion and comp.unix.hpux.* groups
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Date: 29 Mar 1993 19:31:39 -0500
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  This is a formal USENET Request for Discussion.  This proposal will
be discussed in news.groups for at least three weeks after this is
posted to news.announce.newgroups.  At the end of that time if the
proposer feels there exists consensus on name and charter, a formal
Call for Votes might be made.  Each proposal will of course be voted
on separately if that time comes.

BACKGROUND:
  The existing newsgroup comp.sys.hp has a high volume of traffic
which is on diverse subjects.  Volume is so high as to make it
difficult for readers to follow items of interest, even with threaded
newsreaders and kill files.  It is proposed to split the newsgroup by
topic into more managable pieces.

FORMAL PROPOSAL:
  Create	comp.unix.hpux.programmer	
		HP Unix is sufficiently ancient (System V, Release 2.2) that
		porting software to it is a highly non-trivial task.  Similarly
		writing portable software for it is difficult.  There are 
		already significant programmer/porting/development postings
		on HPUX.  Since the USENET convention is to create such 
		groups with the name ~.programmer, this is the proposed name.

  Create	comp.unix.hpux.apps
		Many users and postings relate only to applications which 
		happen to run under HPUX.  Many of these readers are only
		interested in applications discussions.  Since the USENET
		convention is to create such groups with the name ~.apps,
		this is the proposed name.

  Create	comp.unix.hpux.misc
		This will be the catch-all group for HPUX discussions that
		don't relate to either of the above groups.  Again, the
		proposed name follows USENET conventions on naming.

  Create	comp.sys.hp.pc
		There are regular if low volume postings relating to HP's
		MSDOS-compatible personal computers.  It is proposed to
		split them off since their discussions are substantially
		separate from other discussions.

  Create	comp.sys.hp.printers
		HP printers are popular and are often discussed both
		in comp.periphs* and in comp.sys.hp.  This splits the
		printer discussions out from the HP computer discussions
		which is appropriate because many people have an HP
		printer but not an HP computer.

  Rename	comp.sys.hp  TO	 comp.sys.hp.misc
		This is for discussion of other HP products (e.g. instruments)
		and for HP-related discussions that do not fit in any of
		the above group.  The renaming is proposed to conform to
		the standard USENET practice on such catch-all groups.
		Having it at the same hierarchy as other newsgroups in
		the same tree has been shown over the years to reduce the
		amount of inappropriate cross-postings.

  Comments should be posted to news.groups and so followups are
directed there.  Please post rather than sending me email.
-- 
Ran
[email protected]

From [email protected] Mon Jul 26 12:21:04 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Christopher Hudel <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.hp reorganization
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Date: 26 Jul 1993 11:50:47 -0400
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			  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
			COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION	

This is the first "Request for Discussion" for the restructuring
of the comp.sys.hp hierarchy.  The current proposal is to split 
"comp.sys.hp" into relevant sub-groups.

Proposed New comp.sys.hp hierarchy
----------------------------------
Because of increased traffic on comp.sys.hp and in keeping with the spirit
of other popular comp.sys.* newsgroups, I propose comp.sys.hp be split
into the following sub-groups:

comp.sys.hp.announce [Moderated]
  - a moderated forum for HP product/service announcements that would
    be of interest to people currently reading any *hp* newsgroup.

comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard system's
    hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
    *any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
    discussed in comp.sys.hp48.

comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]
  - an open area for the dicussion of software applications running on
    any HP platform.

comp.sys.hp.admin [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration issues
    pertaining to HP products.

comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
  - a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
    in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.


Notes
-----
The idea of restructuring comp.sys.hp gets hashed and rehashed a few
times each year, but nothing is ever done formally. Hopefully, with
this formal document, some needed work can be accomplshed in comp.sys.hp.

This RFD appears in comp.sys.hp, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups.
All discussion is encouraged to take place ONLY on the "news.groups"     
newsgroup and I have directed follow-ups there.

 
Call For Votes 
--------------
The CFV will most likely commence Wednesday, September 1, 1993.  Since
the proposal involves a major restructuring of the comp.sys.hp
hierarchy, the RFD will last around 31 days. Because of my support for
this restructuring and my current affiliation with Hewlett Packard, I
will be asking a 3rd party to perform the actual vote counting.

I plan to post the CFV to the same groups as this RFD and will not be     
mailing either the CFV or this RFD to any mailing list(s), although I
encourage you to privately e-mail this RFD to any interested parties.

From [email protected] Tue Aug  3 15:54:17 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Christopher Hudel <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.sys.hp reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 3 Aug 1993 14:19:39 -0400
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[Please note the changes made to the proposal in lieu of recent            |
 discussions, indicated by the change bars on the right -------------->>]  |

	        	2nd  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
			COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION	

This is the second "Request for Discussions" for the restructuring of the
the comp.sys.hp hierarchy.  The current proposal is to split "comp.sys.hp"
into relevant sub-groups.

Proposed New comp.sys.hp hierarchy
----------------------------------
In keeping with other popular comp.sys.* newsgroups, I propose comp.sys.hp
be split in to the following sub-groups:

comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard system's
    hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
    *any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
    discussed in comp.sys.hp48.

comp.sys.hp.software [Unmoderated]                                         |
  - an open area for the dicussion of software applications running on     |
    any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions     | 
    be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and                 |
    comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups.                                            |

comp.sys.hp.hpux     [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the duscission of system administration and   |
    other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.                 |
    
comp.sys.hp.mpe      [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the duscission of system administration and   |
    other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.                   |
    
comp.sys.hp.misc     [Unmoderated]
  - a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
    in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
  - HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.     |


Notes
-----
The idea of restructuring comp.sys.hp gets hashed and rehashed a few
times each year, but nothing is ever done formally. Hopefully, with
this formal document, some needed work can be accomplshed in comp.sys.hp.

This RFD appears in comp.sys.hp, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups.
All discussion is encouraged to take place ONLY on the "news.groups"     
newsgroup and I have directed follow-ups there.

I am reluctant to add new groups "for future expansion" or groups to      |
field questions that sometimes arise -- I feel the articles should be     |
posted to comp.sys.hp.misc and then, if/when c.s.h.misc becomes dominated |
by another non-misc topic, a new newsgroup be created later.  There is    |
some virtue, imho, to not having too many newsgroups. (I recall that the  |
'guide for newsgroups' suggests not creating a newsgroup untill the volume|
is ~20/day -- do we really get 20 articles/day on Vectras or Printers?    | 

The comp.sys.hp.{mpe|hpux} are NOT named comp.os.{mpe|hpux} since the     |
intended discussion in the c.s.hp.* groups focus on MORE than just the    |
os -- I am in fact, using the os to distinguish between two major types   |
of HP users, since most people *know* they're running HPUX or MPE but     | 
aren't always aware that one is a 9000 computer and the other a 3000.     |

Also note, the *.{mpe|hpux} newsgroups INCLUDE administration so there    |
no longer exists a proposal for a comp.sys.hp.admin newsgroup.            |
 
Call For Votes 
--------------
The CFV will most likely commence Wednesday, September 1, 1993.  Since
the proposal involves a major restructuring of the comp.sys.hp
hierarchy, the RFD will last around 31 days. Because of my support for
this restructuring and my current affiliation with Hewlett Packard, I     |
haved asked for a 3rd party to perform the actual vote counting and       |
Ron Dippold (@qualcomm.com -- but don't send him e-mail!) has agreed to   |
impartially and objectively run the vote.                                 |

I plan to post the CFV to the same groups as this RFD and will not be     
mailing either the CFV or this RFD to any mailing list(s), although I
encourage you to privately e-mail this RFD to any interested parties.

From [email protected] Fri Aug 13 20:13:12 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Christopher Hudel <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: 3rd RFD: comp.sys.hp.* reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 13 Aug 1993 19:16:41 -0400
Organization: Software Quality Assurance, Panacom Division, Hewlett Packard Canada Ltd.
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[Everything is going "smoothly" and this is the last RFD that I'll be
 posting -- watch for the CFV near the end of August or very early
 September.  Thanks for your opinions! -Chris.]

[Please note the changes made to the proposal in lieu of recent            |
 discussions, indicated by the change bars on the right -------------->>]  |

	        	3rd  REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
			COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION	

This is the third "Request for Discussions" for the restructuring of the
the comp.sys.hp hierarchy.  The current proposal is to split "comp.sys.hp"
into relevant sub-groups.

Proposed New comp.sys.hp hierarchy
----------------------------------
In keeping with other popular comp.sys.* newsgroups, I propose comp.sys.hp
be split in to the following sub-groups:

comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard system's
    hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
    *any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
    discussed in comp.sys.hp48.

comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]                                             |
  - an open area for the dicussion of software & applications running on   |
    any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions     | 
    be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and                 |
    comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups.                                            |

comp.sys.hp.hpux     [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the duscission of system administration and  
    other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.               
    
comp.sys.hp.mpe      [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the duscission of system administration and
    other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.               
    
comp.sys.hp.misc     [Unmoderated]
  - a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
    in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
  - HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.


Notes
-----
The idea of restructuring comp.sys.hp gets hashed and rehashed a few
times each year, but nothing is ever done formally. Hopefully, with
this formal document, some needed work can be accomplshed in comp.sys.hp.

This RFD appears in comp.sys.hp, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups.
All discussion is encouraged to take place ONLY on the "news.groups"     
newsgroup and I have directed follow-ups there.

I am reluctant to add new groups "for future expansion" or groups to      
field questions that sometimes arise -- I feel the articles should be     
posted to comp.sys.hp.misc and then, if/when c.s.h.misc becomes dominated 
by another non-misc topic, a new newsgroup be created later.  There is    
some virtue, imho, to not having too many newsgroups. (I recall that the  
'guide for newsgroups' suggests not creating a newsgroup untill the volume
is ~20/day -- do we really get 20 articles/day on Vectras or Printers?     

The comp.sys.hp.{mpe|hpux} are NOT named comp.os.{mpe|hpux} since the     
intended discussion in the c.s.hp.* groups focus on MORE than just the    
os -- I am in fact, using the os to distinguish between two major types   
of HP users, since most people *know* they're running HPUX or MPE but      
aren't always aware that one is a 9000 computer and the other a 3000.     

Also note, the *.{mpe|hpux} newsgroups INCLUDE administration so there    
no longer exists a proposal for a comp.sys.hp.admin newsgroup.           
 
Call For Votes 
--------------
The CFV will most likely commence on or before Wednesday, September 1, 1993.
Since the proposal involves a major restructuring of the comp.sys.hp
hierarchy, the RFD will last around 31 days. Because of my support for
this restructuring and my current affiliation with Hewlett Packard, I     
haved asked for a 3rd party to perform the actual vote counting and       
Ron Dippold (@qualcomm.com -- but don't send him e-mail!) has agreed to   
impartially and objectively run the vote.                                 

I plan to post the CFV to the same groups as this RFD and will not be     
mailing either the CFV or this RFD to any mailing list(s), although I
encourage you to privately e-mail this RFD to any interested parties.

From [email protected] Fri Sep  3 15:49:21 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: CFV: comp.sys.hp reorganization
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Date: 3 Sep 1993 11:04:11 -0400
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                      1st CALL FOR VOTES  (of 3)
                      COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION

Unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.hp.hardware    Discussion of Hewlett Packard system hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps        Discussion of software and apps on all HP platforms
comp.sys.hp.hpux        Issues pertaining to HP-UX & 9000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.mpe         Issues pertaining to MPE & 3000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.misc        Issues not covered in any other comp.sys.hp group

Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on 2 Oct 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected] (Ian Kluft).  For questions
about the proposed groups, contact [email protected] (Christopher Hudel).

The official distribution channels for the CFVs in this vote will be the
newsgroups news.announce.newgroups, news.groups and comp.sys.hp.  It will
also be available via an e-mail server at [email protected] (to
answer requests for copies of the CFV for the vote-taker.)

CHARTERS
--------
comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard systems
    hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
    *any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
    discussed in comp.sys.hp48.

comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]
  - an open area for the discussion of software & applications running on
    any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions
    be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and
    comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups.

comp.sys.hp.hpux [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
    other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.

comp.sys.hp.mpe [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
    other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.

comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
  - a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
    in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
  - HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.

Note: comp.sys.hp.misc is proposed to replace comp.sys.hp.

STANDARD VOTE FORM
------------------
Please REPLY to this message via MAIL.  (Posts to a newsgroup are invalid.)
The voting address is
      [email protected]
Simply replying by MAIL to this message should work.  You will receive a
reply within a few days after your votes are received which indicates
how the voting software thinks you voted - please mail corrections
immediately to the vote-taker: [email protected] (Ian Kluft)

PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS.  However, please remove the rest of the CFV
>from your reply in order to reduce the disk space requirements to store it.

Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not modify the group names.  Votes will be tallied by an
automatic program.  If it can't determine your vote you will be asked
to re-vote.

For each group, simply add your vote in the appropriate space on the
same line.  Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and Against. Yes and For
are equivalent, as are No and Against.  Capitalization is not important.
If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space
blank.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters
">" that your reply inserts.

You may _NOT_ do a combined vote - i.e., "I vote for all of them" or "I
vote against all of them."  Please use the form.

You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have.
Later votes replace previous ones.  Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.

Standard guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person regardless of
how many accounts you have.  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of
all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation.

Summary: Fill in your voting choices on the lines with the newsgroup
names.  Don't delete anything on the ballot form.  Remove the rest of
the CFV from your reply.  Limit one vote per person.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

comp.sys.hp reorganization Ballot    [C-S-HP-BALLOT-0001]

  If your mail software does not add your name to your user ID give
  your name here (on this line):

Your Vote  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes        this.is.an.example.group
>no        this.is.another.example.group
           this.is.an.example.abstention

           comp.sys.hp.hardware
           comp.sys.hp.apps
           comp.sys.hp.hpux
           comp.sys.hp.mpe
           comp.sys.hp.misc

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

This is the 1st of 3 CFVs which will appear during the voting period.

Due to the potential size of this vote, the vote-taker has elected to
follow the trend toward "bounce-only" acknowledgements.  All votes will
be acknowledged via e-mail.  Any acknowledgements which are returned as
undeliverable will be listed in the 2nd and 3rd CFVs so that the voters
know their votes were received.

During the voting period, there will not be any "mass-acks" which would
have listed the sources of all the votes received.  Mass-acks have been
increasingly viewed as a waste of network bandwidth when e-mail
acknowledgements are also in use.


From [email protected] Fri Sep 10 12:44:40 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.hp reorganization
Followup-To: poster
Date: 9 Sep 1993 13:17:45 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
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NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4029 news.groups:81245 comp.sys.hp:37927

                      2nd CALL FOR VOTES  (of 3)
                      COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION

Unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.hp.hardware    Discussion of Hewlett Packard system hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps        Discussion of software and apps on all HP platforms
comp.sys.hp.hpux        Issues pertaining to HP-UX & 9000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.mpe         Issues pertaining to MPE & 3000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.misc        Issues not covered in any other comp.sys.hp group

Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on 2 Oct 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected] (Ian Kluft).  For questions
about the proposed groups, contact [email protected] (Christopher Hudel).

The official distribution channels for the CFVs in this vote are the
newsgroups news.announce.newgroups, news.groups and comp.sys.hp.  It is
also available via an e-mail server at [email protected] (to
answer requests for copies of the CFV for the vote-taker.)

A "bounce acknowledgement" is included at the end of this CFV for cases where
e-mail acknowledgements were returned to the vote-taker.

CHARTERS
--------
comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard systems
    hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
    *any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
    discussed in comp.sys.hp48.

comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]
  - an open area for the discussion of software & applications running on
    any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions
    be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and
    comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups.

comp.sys.hp.hpux [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
    other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.

comp.sys.hp.mpe [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
    other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.

comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
  - a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
    in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
  - HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.

Note: comp.sys.hp.misc is proposed to replace comp.sys.hp.

STANDARD VOTE FORM
------------------
Please REPLY to this message via MAIL.  (Posts to a newsgroup are invalid.)
The voting address is
      [email protected]
Simply replying by MAIL to this message should work.  You will receive a
reply within a few days after your votes are received which indicates
how the voting software thinks you voted - please mail corrections
immediately to the vote-taker: [email protected] (Ian Kluft)

PLEASE USE THE FORM AS IT IS.  However, please remove the rest of the CFV
>from your reply in order to reduce the disk space requirements to store it.

Please do not delete anything between the "-=-=-=-=-" lines - and most
certainly do not modify the group names.  Votes will be tallied by an
automatic program.  If it can't determine your vote you will be asked
to re-vote.

For each group, simply add your vote in the appropriate space on the
same line.  Recognized votes are Yes, No, For, and Against. Yes and For
are equivalent, as are No and Against.  Capitalization is not important.
If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space
blank.  Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters
">" that your reply inserts.

You may _NOT_ do a combined vote - i.e., "I vote for all of them" or "I
vote against all of them."  Please use the form.

You may only vote once, regardless of how many accounts you may have.
Later votes replace previous ones.  Forwarded or proxy votes are invalid.

Standard guidelines for voting apply - one vote per person regardless of
how many accounts you have.  100 more YES votes than NO votes and 2/3 of
all votes being YES are the requirements for group creation.

Summary: Fill in your voting choices on the lines with the newsgroup
names.  Don't delete anything on the ballot form.  Remove the rest of
the CFV from your reply.  Limit one vote per person.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

comp.sys.hp reorganization Ballot    [C-S-HP-BALLOT-0002]

  If your mail software does not add your name to your user ID give
  your name here (on this line):

Your Vote  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes        this.is.an.example.group
>no        this.is.another.example.group
           this.is.an.example.abstention

           comp.sys.hp.hardware
           comp.sys.hp.apps
           comp.sys.hp.hpux
           comp.sys.hp.mpe
           comp.sys.hp.misc

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

This is the 2nd of 3 CFVs scheduled to appear during the voting period.

comp.sys.hp reorganization Bounce Ack List
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Due to the potential size of this vote, the vote-taker has elected to
follow the trend toward "bounce-only" acknowledgements.  All votes are
acknowledged via e-mail.  The acknowledgements to the following voters
were returned as undeliverable:

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

The people listed above have submitted *valid* votes which have been
counted but could not be acknowledged by e-mail.  Anyone who did not
receive an acknowledgement in e-mail or in this bounce ack may try
again to vote.  If difficulty continues, contact the vote-taker and/or
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From [email protected] Thu Sep 16 14:00:44 1993
Path: uunet!not-for-mail
From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: 3rd CFV: comp.sys.hp reorganization
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                      3rd CALL FOR VOTES  (of 3)
                      COMP.SYS.HP REORGANIZATION

Unmoderated groups:
comp.sys.hp.hardware    Discussion of Hewlett Packard system hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps        Discussion of software and apps on all HP platforms
comp.sys.hp.hpux        Issues pertaining to HP-UX & 9000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.mpe         Issues pertaining to MPE & 3000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.misc        Issues not covered in any other comp.sys.hp group

Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT on 2 Oct 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact [email protected] (Ian Kluft).  For questions
about the proposed groups, contact [email protected] (Christopher Hudel).

The official distribution channels for the CFVs in this vote are the
newsgroups news.announce.newgroups, news.groups and comp.sys.hp.  It is
also available via an e-mail server at [email protected] (to
answer requests for copies of the CFV for the vote-taker.)

A "bounce acknowledgement" is included at the end of this CFV for cases where
e-mail acknowledgements were returned to the vote-taker.

CHARTERS
--------
comp.sys.hp.hardware [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated arena for the discussion of Hewlett Packard systems
    hardware, including workstations, Xterminals, mainframes, printers,
    *any* hardware questions EXCEPT HP calculators which are already
    discussed in comp.sys.hp48.

comp.sys.hp.apps [Unmoderated]
  - an open area for the discussion of software & applications running on
    any HP platform, although HPUX and MPE specific software solutions
    be discussed in the corresponding comp.sys.hp.hpux and
    comp.sys.hp.mpe newsgroups.

comp.sys.hp.hpux [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
    other issues pertaining to the HP-UX operating system.

comp.sys.hp.mpe [Unmoderated]
  - an unmoderated forum for the discussion of system administration and
    other issues pertaining to the MPE operating system.

comp.sys.hp.misc [Unmoderated]
  - a freely accessible place for the communication of issues not covered
    in any other comp.sys.hp.* newsgroup.
  - HP product announcements will be posted to this newsgroup monthly.

Note: comp.sys.hp.misc is proposed to replace comp.sys.hp.

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           comp.sys.hp.hardware
           comp.sys.hp.apps
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           comp.sys.hp.mpe
           comp.sys.hp.misc

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This is the 3rd of 3 CFVs scheduled to appear during the voting period.

comp.sys.hp reorganization Bounce Ack List
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acknowledged via e-mail.  The acknowledgements to the following voters
were returned as undeliverable:

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From [email protected] Tue Oct  5 13:09:43 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.hp
Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.hp reorganization passes
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Date: 5 Oct 1993 10:53:02 -0400
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comp.sys.hp reorganization results - 337 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 305   22 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.hp.hardware
 288   34 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.hp.apps
 307   25 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.hp.hpux
 269   30 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.hp.mpe
 313   16 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.hp.misc

All the groups passed.  If there are no serious objections arising from
vote-taking procedures, the newsgroups will be created 5 days after these
results are posted.  comp.sys.hp (replaced by comp.sys.hp.misc) will be
removed on 2 February 1994.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For questions about
votetaking procedures only, contact [email protected] (Ian Kluft).  For
questions about the new newsgroups, contact [email protected]
(Christopher Hudel).

Newsgroup lines for the new newsgroups

comp.sys.hp.hardware    Discussion of Hewlett Packard system hardware
comp.sys.hp.apps        Discussion of software and apps on all HP platforms
comp.sys.hp.hpux        Issues pertaining to HP-UX & 9000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.mpe         Issues pertaining to MPE & 3000 series computers
comp.sys.hp.misc        Issues not covered in any other comp.sys.hp group


comp.sys.hp reorganization Final Vote Ack

                                                     comp.sys.hp.misc -------+
                                                      comp.sys.hp.mpe ------+|
                                                     comp.sys.hp.hpux -----+||
                                                     comp.sys.hp.apps ----+|||
                                                 comp.sys.hp.hardware ---+||||
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"csd630::amby"@meteor.syscon.hii.com        Don Amby, HEI, (414)797-6713 YYYYY
[email protected]                                    isaac blake YYYYY
[email protected]                                      Antonio B. Leal -YYYY
[email protected]                             Andrew Cagney Y-YYY
[email protected]                                                           YNYYY
[email protected]    Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumblew YYYYY
[email protected]                      Alexander Jung YYYYY
[email protected]                                           Alex Magnetti YYYYY
[email protected]                                    Anne Louise Gockel YYY-Y
[email protected]                                    Anders Lindb{ck YYY-Y
[email protected]                                Charles D. Rand YYYYY
[email protected]                            Steven M. Cooper YYYYY
[email protected]                                   Stan Sieler YYYYY
[email protected]                                      Mark Allender YYYYY
[email protected]                                         Alan Millar YYYYY
[email protected]                                            Andy Feibus YNYYY
[email protected]                                    Antonio REGAZZONI YYYYY
arir@bear.com                                             Ari Rabinowitz YYYYY
arons@clover.ece.ucdavis.edu                                   Tom Arons NNNNN
arul@pts.mot.com                                         Arul Ganeswaran YYYYY
awebb@lesc.lockheed.com                                        Andy Webb YYYYY
bagge@gih.uni-hannover.de                                  Andreas Bagge YYY-Y
baldwinm@ace50.ae.ge.com                        baldwinm@ace50.ae.ge.com YYYYY
barrett@lucy.ee.und.ac.za                                   Alan Barrett --NN-
bartel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de                            Elmar Bartel YYYYY
bartm@cv.ruu.nl                                             Bart Muijzer YYYYY
baudoin@ensta.fr                                            Marc Baudoin YYYYY
bauer@afthp001.tuwien.ac.at                                 Roland Bauer YYYYY
baumj@engrws2.abbott.com                                    John A. Baum YYYYY
BBROWN%HARPERVM@UICVM.UIC.EDU                                  Bob Brown YYYYY
bdale@col.hp.com                                            Bdale Garbee YYYYY
bef@nwu.edu                                                 Bruce Foster YYYYY
bell@tartan.sps.mot.com                                       David Bell YYYYY
bengtl@maths.lth.se                                        Bengt Larsson YYYYY
besancon@physique.ens.fr                                BESANCON Thierry YYYYY
bf248@cleveland.Freenet.Edu                                Jerry Renault YYYYY
bj@herbison.com                                            B.J. Herbison YYYYY
bmolerio@panix.com                                     Robert J. Molerio YYYYY
bmw@isgtec.com                                           Bruce M. Walker YYYYY
bob@remlap.UCSD.EDU                                           Bob Palmer YYYYY
boehmer@dsos00.sch.ge.com                                  Eric M. Boehm YYYYY
bon@LTE.E-TECHNIK.uni-erlangen.de                             Uwe Bonnes YYYYY
bowman@waterloo.hp.com                                        Don Bowman YYYYY
Bruno.PIGUET@meteo.fr                                       Bruno PIGUET YYYYY
bzook@swri.edu                                                Brian Zook YYYYY
carllp@diku.dk                                       Carl-Lykke Pedersen YYYYY
cdr@hpenv1                                                Chris Roberson YYYYY
ceb4@eng.cam.ac.uk                                     Caroline Blackmun YYYYY
charles.herrick@amd.com                                                  YYYYY
cheah@cs.columbia.edu                                      Po Shan Cheah NNYNY
chrise@hpsrgu4.sr.hp.com                                      Chris Eich YYYYY
Christian.Finger@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de                    Christian Finger YYYYY
chuahl@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU                                Chua Hak Lien YYYYY
chuck@hpuerca.atl.hp.com                                   Chuck Storla  YYYYY
cionca@siihp.epfl.ch                           Ion Cionca [epfl.sic.sii] YYYYY
clark@hwcae.az.honeywell.com                            Michael E. Clark YYYYY
claudio@mecasoft.ch                                      Claudio BOZZINI YYYYY
cmarble@anubis.ac.hmc.edu                                   Chris Marble YYYYY
Conrad_Geiger@NeXT.COM                                     Conrad Geiger YYYYY
cosphi@noc.fh-lippe.de                                    Markus Czerner YYY-Y
crath@bnr.ca                                            Christopher Rath YYYYY
cs.spool.wisc.edu!madnix!jaeger%nicmad.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu    Jay R. Jaeger YYYYY
csl@hprnd.rose.hp.com                                          Chris Liu YYYYY
cv@unison.com                                                Craig Vespe YYYYY
dan@hpsanse.nsr.hp.com                 Dan Lake, dan@hplaatc2.nsr.hp.com YYYYY
Dave.Crotchett@m.cc.utah.edu                              Dave Crotchett YYYYY
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daves@hpfcdave.sde.hp.com                                Dave Staudacher YYYYY
daves@vt.edu                                                David Sisson YYY--
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dawn@eljefe.ca.dynix.com                                  Dawn Whiteside -NYYY
dbronder@ccad.uiowa.edu                                    David Bronder YYYYY
ddb@anubis.network.com                                 David Dyer-Bennet YYYYY
de5@sws1.ctd.ornl.gov                                          Dave Sill YYNYY
dec@lazarus.nrtc.northrop.com                             Dwight E. Cass YNYYY
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dlc@access.digex.net                                      David L. Craig YYYYY
donovan@bnr.ca                                         Marc (M.) Donovan YYYYY
dpalmer@taliesin.win.net                                 David K. Palmer YYYYY
dparter@cs.wisc.edu                                      David W. Parter YYYYY
dsnider@access.digex.net                                      Don Snider YYYYY
duncan@yc.estec.esa.nl                                     Duncan Gibson YYYYY
ed.sarlls@airgun.wg.waii.com                                   Ed Sarlls YYYYY
eeastman@r2.com                                        Eric Eastman Eng. YYYYY
ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu                                     Eric J. Olson NNNNN
elsen@imec.be                                                 Marc Elsen YYYYN
epeas@chevron.com                                             John Peach YYYYY
epeterso@hpride01.comm.mot.com                             Eric Peterson YYYYY
erik@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl                              Erik Platzbecker YYY-Y
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exco@ligiahp2.univ-lyon1.fr                            Thierry EXCOFFIER YYY-Y
ezk@cs.columbia.edu                                Erez \"HWank1\" Zadok YYY-Y
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fip@necsy.it                                                Piero Fiozzo YYYYY
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francisr@stupid.ucs.indiana.edu                              Rob Francis YYYYY
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frankd@mi.aau.dk                                        Frank Dabelstein YYYYY
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franl@centerline.com                                                     YYYYY
fruh@lprhp1.epfl.ch                                           Rene Frueh YYYYY
FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu                                      Sean P. Ryan YNNNY
fujitsu!pdn.paradyne.com!bcutter                           Brooks Cutter YYY-Y
fuz@cs.columbia.edu                                   Andrew \"Fuz\" Lih YYY-Y
gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu                                Garance A Drosehn YYYYY
gary@poseidon.dfci.harvard.edu                             Gary Beckmann YYYYY
gerwitz@Kodak.COM                                        Paul F. Gerwitz YYYYY
ggeo@intranet.GR                                        George Georgatos YY-YY
ggw@cds.duke.edu                                     Gregory G. Woodbury YYYNY
gill@eagle.sangamon.edu                                      Warren Gill NNYYY
gip@a730.ino.it                                       GianPiero Puccioni YYY-Y
gl8f@fermi.clas.virginia.edu                                Greg Lindahl --NN-
glb@is.ge.com                                                Jerry Brown YYYYY
gordon@maxwell.uwaterloo.ca                            Gordon R Strachan YYY-Y
graf@elux1.mpi-stuttgart.mpg.de                               Klaus Graf YYYYY
graphics@ianos.iesl.forth.gr                         Kosmas Papachristos YYYYY
greg@helium4.uoregon.edu                                      greg bauer YYYYY
greg_cagle@mentorg.com                                        Greg Cagle YYYYY
gritton@byu.edu                                            Jamie Gritton YNYYY
grohol@alpha.acast.nova.edu                               John M. Grohol YYYYY
gspear+@CMU.EDU                                           Geoffrey Spear NNNNN
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu                                Brennan T. Price YYNNY
gubsd@ub.gu.se                                 Silva.Danielsson@ub.gu.se YYYYY
hagmanti@cps.msu.edu                                   Timothy C. Hagman YYYYY
hal.com!jazz                                                 Jason Zions YYYYY
hansen+@osu.edu                                             Steen Hansen YYYYY
hill@pau.synnet.COM                                      hill@synnet.com YYYYY
hm@hcshh.hcs.de                                       Hellmuth Michaelis YYYYY
houten@ux60.pttnwb.nl                                      K. van Houten YYYYY
hudel@waterloo.hp.com                                  Christopher Hudel YYYYY
hv@garbarek.t-informatik.ba-stuttgart.de                      Henry Vogt YYYYY
ivan@carroll1.cc.edu                                     Ivan Richwalski YYYYY
J.S.Peatfield@damtp.cambridge.ac.uk                        Jon Peatfield YYYYY
jad@chaos.aqeng.cdc.com                                 Jeffrey A. Davie YYYYY
jamie@poseidon.dfci.harvard.edu                       James M. Pelagatti YYYYY
jbeck@hpindsh.cup.hp.com                                    John T. Beck YYYYY
jcm@octavia.anu.edu.au                                James C. McPherson YYYNY
jeff@hpmvd069                                            Jeff Gruszynski YYYYY
JEFF@UTCVM.UTC.EDU                                        Jeffrey R Kell YYYYY
jewett@opus.hpl.hp.com                                        Bob Jewett YYYYY
jgaehwil@itr.ch                                         gaehwiler@itr.ch YYYYY
jgk@versant.com                                                Joe Keane Y-Y-Y
jgshir@Athena.MIT.EDU                                                    YYYYY
jht@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil                                 James H Tibbs YYYYY
jim.mcneill@almac.co.uk                                      Jim McNeill --Y--
jims@vlsi-az.sps.mot.com                                                 YYY-Y
jjuran@lab3.smcm.edu                                     Joshua D. Juran Y---Y
jlcox@msd20.ssc.gov                                                      YYYYY
jmcarli@srv.PacBell.COM                                     Jerry Carlin YYYYY
joe@decoy.uoregon.edu                                      Joe St Sauver YYNNY
john@nextdoor.com                                         John McCracken YYYYY
johnl@hpopdlcs.pwd.hp.com                                     John Leask YYYYY
johns@tanker.utaccs-net4.army.mil                       Richard B. Johns YYYYY
JOHN_W%VULCAN@mentec.ie                                    John Whistler YYYYY
jon@staff.cs.uit.no                                 Jon Ivar Kristiansen YYYYY
jonas@beor.informatik.rwth-aachen.de                      Josef Nelissen YYY-Y
jonog@g2syd.genasys.com.au                              Jonathan Gowland YYYYY
jorge@micom.com                      jorge@micom.com (Jorge De los Rios) YYYYY
joseph@hpnzpso1.aus.hp.com                                 Joseph Fenech -YYYY
joshia@cranium.com.msu.edu                              Amaresh R. Joshi NNYYY
jpark@jpjazz.win.net                                           John Park YNYYY
jrh@de-montfort.ac.uk                                  Jonathan R Hughes YYYYY
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kay@zhv.basf-ag.de                                         Kay Marquardt YYYYY
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klassen@sol.UVic.CA                                       Melvin Klassen YYYYY
knechod@stacc.med.utah.edu                                Kevin Nechodom YYYYY
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lauraj@nsmdserv.cnd.hp.com                                 Laura Johnson YYYYY
lawson@netsun.mdc.com                                         Jim Lawson YYYYY
lccha@nb.rockwell.com                                          Lloyd Cha YYYYY
liddl@osm7.cs.byu.edu                                  Stephen W. Liddle YYYYY
lombard@u.washington.edu                                   Peter Lombard YYYYY
lonadar@judy.indstate.edu                          Victor E Aldridge III YYNNN
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luke@modus.sublink.org                                  Luciano Mannucci Y-YNY
Marc.Desrochers@BRI.NRC.CA                               Marc Desrochers YYY-Y
Marc.Kool@wldelft.nl                                        Marc H. Kool YYYYY
marcy@ecs.isl.melco.co.jp                                  Masashi Saito YYYYY
marius@rhi.hi.is                                         Marius Olafsson YYYNY
Mark-Ludwig@uai.com                                       Mark R. Ludwig YNNNY
mark@strider.andyne.on.ca                                   Mark Levison YYYYY
markb@cccd.edu                                                Mark Bixby YYYYY
markw@deico.com                                       Mark S. Wroblewski YYYYY
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marlor@dream.sublink.org                                 Marco Lorenzini YYYYY
Martens@tu-harburg.d400.de                                 Klaus Martens YYYYY
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mcmorran@ll.mit.edu                                      Roy A. McMorran YYYYY
mcole@usr.com                                               Michael Cole YYYYY
mcoleman@alps.qld.cnc.oz.au                                 Mark Coleman YYYYY
mcr@unison.com                                            Michael Riehle YYYYY
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michel@es.ele.tue.nl                                    Michel Berkelaar YNYYY
mike@tubemfg.med.ge.com                                  Michael J. Dyer YYYYY
milburn@postech.ac.kr                                       John Milburn YYYYY
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morgaine@siap.sublink.org                                  Nadia Pitacco YYYYY
mrex@rz.fht-mannheim.de                                       Martin Rex YYYYY
mschoelz@informatik.uni-kl.de                          Manfred Schoelzke YYYYY
muir@idiom.berkeley.ca.us                            David Muir Sharnoff YYYYY
muller@oahu.sedd.trw.com                                     Bill Muller YYYYY
myawn@capella.cup.hp.com                                       Mike Yawn YYYYY
myszka@ldhpux.immt-pwr.wroc.edu.pl                       Wojciech Myszka YYYYY
nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu                            Nathan F. Janette YYYYY
neulynne@uts.uni-c.dk                                    Mogens Lynnerup YYYYY
nishino@buttercup.e-tokyo.prug.or.jp                    NISHINO-kazuyuki NNNNN
ouwendyk@ux60.pttnwb.nl                                 Anthon Ouwendijk YYYYY
pagels@cs.arizona.edu                                  Michael A. Pagels NNNNN
Patrick.Etienne@loria.fr                                 Patrick ETIENNE YYYYY
patrick@wbar.uta.edu                                    Patrick Phillips YYY-Y
paul@csi.on.ca                                               Paul Doerr  YYYYY
paul@inrird.com                                            Paul Margolin YYYYY
PAUL_GOBES%Robelle@mcimail.com            paul_gobes%robelle@mcimail.com NNYYY
paw@coos.dartmouth.edu                                        Pat Wilson YYYYY
pczip@chem.nott.ac.uk                                         Ivan Powis YYY-Y
peja@ise.fhg.de                            Peter Jaegle, peja@ise.fhg.de YYYYY
petes@hpindck.cup.hp.com                                     Peter Smoot YYYYY
Pierre.David@masi.uvsq.fr                                                NNNNN
poh@freitag                                            Christian Pohlenz YYYYY
pw@cacs.usl.edu                                     Pirawat Watanapongse YYYYY
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                             Michael J. Quinn YYYYY
radle@gizmo.corp.hp.com                                       Andy Radle YYYYY
raj@hpisrdq.cup.hp.com                                        Rick Jones YYYYY
rali@technet.macom.com                                R A Lichtensteiger YYYYY
randy@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu                   RANDALL SCHRICKEL (NCE) x7661 YYYYY
raymond@CENTRCN.UMontreal.CA                              Daniel Raymond YYYYY
rbw@t12.LANL.GOV                                              Bob Walker YYYYY
RCB@SPSUP-1.NAVY.MIL                                       Chris Bartram NNYYY
reinke@apple.com                                            Chuck Reinke YYYYY
revu@midway.uchicago.edu                  Sendhil "Mr. Bubbles" Revuluri NNNNN
richard@hpnzpso1.aus.hp.com                               Richard Warham YYYYY
richmond@atria.com                                         Mark Richmond YYYYY
richw@hpmpeb19.cup.hp.com                                    Rich Webber YYYYY
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu                           Richard H. Miller YYNYY
rieger@iue.tuwien.ac.at                                                  YYY-Y
rjh@qdot.qld.gov.au                                       Robert Howlett YYYYY
rjohns@bnr.ca                                         Richard (R.) Johns YYYYY
rkunin@hpvclq.vcd.hp.com                                      Rick Kunin YYYYY
roberto@mecasoft.ch                                     Roberto MORRISON YYYYY
roeber@vxcern.cern.ch                              Frederick G.M. Roeber YYY-Y
roly@redact.uucp           Roly Alcock - ROOT Site Administrator Account YYY-Y
Ronald.vd.Graaf@saluton.hacktic.nl                       Ronald vd.graaf ---Y-
root@emmy.Mathematik.Uni-Dortmund.DE                                     YYYYY
root@msd10.ssc.gov                                       Lance Armstrong YYY-Y
root@proy2.etsiig.uniovi.es                       Administrador de Proy2 YYY-Y
rvenable@helix.nih.gov                                      Rick Venable YYYYY
sabre@sabri.pc.my                                   S.M.Sabri S.M.Ismail YYY-Y
salah@mecasoft.ch                                         Salah HADJERES YYYYY
sasebb@unx.sas.com                                       Edmund Burnette YYYYY
sbmn@capella.cup.hp.com                                Subramanian Seeth YYYYY
sccm@tcistlsccm.win.net                         Stephen C. Comfort-Mason YYYYY
scott@truevision.com                                       Scott Stevens YYYYY
seymour@u.washington.edu                                 Richard Seymour YYYYY
shane@spr.com                                              Shane Hartman YYYYY
shane@utdallas.edu                                           Shane Davis YYYYY
shawn@sciatl.com                                             Shawn Hayes YYYNY
showalt@lobo.rmh.pr1.k12.co.us                        Scott J. Showalter YYYYY
simmdan@kenya.isu.edu                                     Daniel Simmons YNYYY
sjmz@hplb.hpl.hp.com                                         Stefek Zaba YYYYY
slemieux@QC.Bell.CA                                        Steve Lemieux YYYYY
sltheria@papaya.wustl.edu                               Seth L Theriault YYYYY
smarry@io.org                                         Smarasderagd Draco NNNNN
snoblo@unx.sas.com                                       Bernie O'Connor YYYYY
SNODDI@MVS.SAS.COM                                           Dale Ingold YYYYY
sp1jonbl@hugin.his.se                                              Plupp YYYYY
splbndr@netcom.com                                           Ric Goldman YYYYY
spo@LTE.E-TECHNIK.uni-erlangen.de                          Thomas Sporer YNYYY
srogers@tad.eds.com                                         Steve Rogers YYYNY
ssutton@hposl03.cup.hp.com                                  Steve Sutton YYYYY
Stefan.Lundberg@gd.gu.se                                 Stefan Lundberg YYY-Y
stewartw@cognos.com                                       Stewart Winter ---Y-
stockel@arola.oc.nps.navy.mil                                Jim Stockel YYYYY
STOKES@RED.sps.mot.com    Rod Stokes - VMS & HP-UX System Management - E YYYYY
stroyan@hpstryn.fc.hp.com                                   Mike Stroyan YYYYY
stuart@tivoli.tivoli.com                                  Stuart Jarriel YYYYY
sullivan@interex.org                                       john sullivan YYYYY
swkirch@sun6850.nrl.navy.mil                           Steven Kirchoefer YYYYY
system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca             System Admin (Mike Peterson) YYYYY
system@galcon.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca                      Dave S. Yadallee YYYYY
szherod@dale.ucdavis.edu                                                 YYYYY
tai@nexus.nsa.hp.com                                             Tai Jin YYYYY
tbc@col.hp.com                                              Tim Chambers YYYYY
tgl@netcom.com                                                  Tom Lane YYYYY
thayer@cs.columbia.edu                                    Charles Thayer YYY-Y
THOMASG@maroon.tc.umn.edu                                  Thomas Gasser YYYYY
thomasm@mechti.wupper.de                           Thomas Mechtersheimer YYYYY
Timothy.Jelinsky@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU                  Timothy Jelinsky NNYYY
timv@ccad.uiowa.edu                                    Timothy VanFosson YYYYY
tjh@delcam.co.uk                                              Tim Hughes YYYYY
tom@opal.com.au                                              Tom Northey YYYYY
toman@axel.cts.com                                         John C. Toman YYY-Y
tomm@hpfela.fc.hp.com                                           Tom Moos YYYYY
treadway@sdxs04.llnl.gov                                 Thomas Treadway YYYYY
tt@math.jyu.fi                                          Tapani Tarvainen YYYYY
twa@nova.np.ac.sg                                Timmins William Anthony YYYYY
twr@hplb.hpl.hp.com                                            Tony Rush YYYYY
uk1@irz.inf.tu-dresden.de                                     Ulf Kieber YYYYY
ulisse@mecasoft.ch                                       Ulisse LUSUARDI YYYYY
umberto@aomc.jussieu.fr                                 Umberto D'Ortona YYYYY
Vansickle@macmail.austin.eds.com                        Larry Van Sickle YYYYY
vds7789@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com                       Vincent D. Skahan YYYYY
vic@class.gsfc.nasa.gov                          vic@class.gsfc.nasa.gov YYYYY
viswswrn@titan.Princeton.EDU                           Vishy Visweswaran YYYYY
wade@netlink.nix.com                                           Jeff Wade Y-Y--
walt@bnr.ca                                                Walt Sullivan YYYYY
wilhelm@infoserv.com                                  John MacWilliamson YNNNY
windsord@basf-corp.com                                  David L. Windsor YYYYY
wittsend!bwilab3!chris@merlin.gatech.edu                    Chris Curtin YYYYY
wlw@hpeswlw.fc.hp.com                                        Will Walker YYYYY
yrjola@hkkk.fi                                              Matti Yrjola YYYYY
zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca                                   Lance R. Bailey YYYYY

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BRUCE@cornell-iowa.edu                                          Bruce Cantrall
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eric.hunt@the-matrix.com                                             Eric Hunt
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hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu                                                   Hardy
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HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU                              HP-3000 Systems Discussion
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richi@hpopdlct.pwd.hp.com                                     Richard Jennings
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U7530MB%DOEVM.BITNET@VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU                      Michael Blankenstein
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