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From [email protected] Sun Feb 12 22:47:03 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Christina Schulman)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.announce,comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: RFD: comp.sys.mac.games reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 12 Feb 1995 22:22:34 -0500
Organization: St. Dismas Infirmary for the Incurably Informed
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                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

Proponent       : Christina Schulman ([email protected])

Proposed new groups:
comp.sys.mac.games.announce	Announcements for Mac gamers. (Moderated)
comp.sys.mac.games.action	Action games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace	Macintosh games for sale and trade.
comp.sys.mac.games.misc		Macintosh games not covered in other groups.
comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim	Flight simulator gameplay on the Mac.
comp.sys.mac.games.strategic	Strategy/planning games on the Macintosh.

Superseded group:
comp.sys.mac.games              Replaced by comp.sys.mac.games.misc

This is a formal Request for Discussion for a split of the unmoderated
newsgroup comp.sys.mac.games into several new subgroups, one of which
will be moderated.

PROPOSAL:

	The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.games shall be divided into a
series of subgroups based on the long-term topics that are currently
all in a single group.  This split is based on the very successful
earlier split of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.

	The new subgroups shall be named based on the type of games
to be discussed therein.  The proposed subgroups below
comp.sys.mac.games (csmg) are:

	csmg.action
        csmg.announce
	csmg.flight-sim
        csmg.marketplace
	csmg.misc
        csmg.strategic


RATIONALE:

	c.s.m.g is a high-volume newsgroup (200 or more posts a day is
very common), which has resulted in many people being unable to keep up
with the group in a reasonable way even with the use of killfiles.

THE PROPOSALS

RENAMING: comp.sys.mac.games  to  comp.sys.mac.games.misc

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of all topics that
do not fall under another games subgroup.  This group will take the place
of the current c.s.m.g and will carry all discussions that should not
be carried out in other games subgroups.

	Should comp.sys.mac.games.misc pass, comp.sys.mac.games
shall be rmgrouped three months after the creation of c.s.m.g.misc.

	The goal here is to preserve the hierarchical standards of the
net - If a group is created from group foo.bar, such as foo.bar.stuff,
then foo.bar should move to foo.bar.misc in order to keep everything
at the same level.  If you vote for any other group in this vote you
should probably be voting for this as well (but it is not required).


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.announce

        This moderated group is for informative posts of general interest
to the Mac gaming community.  Examples include announcements of new game
releases, new ftp sites, game reviews, and FAQ's.  Followups will be
redirected to csmg.misc (should it pass) or another appropriate subgroup
at the moderator's discretion.

        The moderator will be Mathew Mills, [email protected]  The alternate
moderator in case of vacation or periods of heavy traffic (the Marathon
release, for example) will be Christina Schulman, [email protected]
Several backup moderators are also available.  The submission address
will be [email protected]


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.action

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of action games.
Action games are generally fast paced combat-style games which usually
require good hand-eye coordination.  Examples include Marathon, Pathways
into Darkness, Wolf 3D, and the as-yet-nonexistent Mac version of DOOM.


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of flight
simulation games.  Flight simulations are games which simulate a real
or theoretically plausible air vehicle (using today's current
technology as its basis), and allow players to manipulate it as if
it were real.  Examples include F/A-18 Hornet and Hellcats.

        This group does not cover the same subject as
rec.aviation.simulators, although they are related.  Again,
rec.aviation.simulators is concerned with realism and related issues,
while this group is more concerned with game play.


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace

       This unmoderated group is for the posting of for-sale, trade,
and wanted ads for Mac games.


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.strategic

       This unmoderated group is for the discussion of strategy games.
Strategy games usually involve complex manipulation of game resources
in many different ways, which directly affects the progress and outcome
of the game.  Also included within this description are wargames, which
often involve similar strategic planning operations.  Examples include
Civilization, TacOps, Spaceward Ho, and SimCity 2000.

                                o O o

This RFD complies with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines set in
"How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup".  Please refer to this document
if you have questions about the process.  The files can be found at
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/creating-newsgroups/.
-- 
Christina Schulman                                       [email protected]

From [email protected] Fri Feb 24 18:27:27 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Christina Schulman)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.sys.mac.games reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 21 Feb 1995 16:47:41 -0500
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                      2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION

Changes to this proposal since the first RFD include the addition of
the unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.adventure for adventure and
RPG traffic, and the explicit inclusion of arcade games in
comp.sys.mac.games.action.

This is the second formal Request for Discussion for a split of the
unmoderated newsgroup comp.sys.mac.games into several new subgroups,
one of which will be moderated.

Proponent       : Christina Schulman <[email protected]>

Proposed new groups:
comp.sys.mac.games.announce     Announcements for Mac gamers. (Moderated)
comp.sys.mac.games.action       Action games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.adventure    Adventure games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace  Macintosh games for sale and trade.
comp.sys.mac.games.misc         Macintosh games not covered in other groups.
comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim   Flight simulator gameplay on the Mac.
comp.sys.mac.games.strategic    Strategy/planning games on the Macintosh.

Superseded group:
comp.sys.mac.games              Replaced by comp.sys.mac.games.misc

PROPOSAL:

	The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.games shall be divided into a
series of subgroups based on the long-term topics that are currently
all in a single group.  This split is based on the very successful
earlier split of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.

	The new subgroups shall be named based on the type of games
to be discussed therein.  The proposed subgroups below
comp.sys.mac.games (csmg) are:

	csmg.action
        csmg.adventure
        csmg.announce
	csmg.flight-sim
        csmg.marketplace
	csmg.misc
        csmg.strategic


RATIONALE:

	c.s.m.g is a high-volume newsgroup (200 or more posts a day is
very common), which has resulted in many people being unable to keep up
with the group in a reasonable way even with the use of killfiles.

THE PROPOSALS

RENAMING: comp.sys.mac.games  to  comp.sys.mac.games.misc

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of all topics that
do not fall under another games subgroup.  This group will take the place
of the current c.s.m.g and will carry all discussions that should not
be carried out in other games subgroups.

	Should comp.sys.mac.games.misc pass, comp.sys.mac.games
shall be rmgrouped three months after the creation of c.s.m.g.misc.

	The goal here is to preserve the hierarchical standards of the
net - If a group is created from group foo.bar, such as foo.bar.stuff,
then foo.bar should move to foo.bar.misc in order to keep everything
at the same level.  If you vote for any other group in this vote you
should probably be voting for this as well (but it is not required).


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.announce

        This moderated group is for informative posts of general interest
to the Mac gaming community.  Examples include announcements of new game
releases, new ftp sites, game reviews, and FAQ's.  Followups will be
redirected to csmg.misc (should it pass) or another appropriate subgroup
at the moderator's discretion.

        The moderator will be Matthew Mills, [email protected]  The alternate
moderator in case of vacation or periods of heavy traffic (the Marathon
release, for example) will be Christina Schulman, [email protected]
Several backup moderators are also available.  The submission address
will be [email protected]


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.action

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of action/arcade
games. Action and arcade games are generally fast paced games which have
a simple goal, and usually require good hand-eye coordination.  Examples
include Marathon, Maelstrom, Apeiron, and the as-yet-nonexistent Mac
version of DOOM.

NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.adventure

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of adventure games.
Adventure games are generally games in which a character is presented
with puzzles, problems and obstacles which must be solved to attain the
game's goal.  Generally, combat is not a major feature of the game, and
all players are confronted with the same puzzles in the path to the
solution.  These games usually transport the character from place to
place in discrete steps, using stylized art to enhance the backdrop
and setting of the game, and present the player with unique puzzles that
have unique solutions.  Examples include the Monkey Island games and
Myst.  Role-playing games such as Realmz and Exile also belong in
this group.


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of flight
simulation games.  Flight simulations are games which simulate a real
or theoretically plausible air vehicle (using today's current
technology as its basis), and allow players to manipulate it as if
it were real.  Examples include F/A-18 Hornet and Hellcats.

        This group does not cover the same subject as
rec.aviation.simulators, although they are related.  Again,
rec.aviation.simulators is concerned with realism and related issues,
while this group is more concerned with game play.


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace

       This unmoderated group is for the posting of for-sale, trade,
and wanted ads for Mac games.


NEW GROUP: comp.sys.mac.games.strategic

       This unmoderated group is for the discussion of strategy games.
Strategy games usually involve complex manipulation of game resources
in many different ways, which directly affects the progress and outcome
of the game.  Also included within this description are wargames, which
often involve similar strategic planning operations.  Examples include
Civilization, TacOps, Spaceward Ho, and SimCity 2000.

                                o O o

This RFD complies with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines set in
"How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup".  Please refer to this document
if you have questions about the process.  The files can be found at
ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/creating-newsgroups/.
-- 
Christina Schulman                                       [email protected]

From [email protected] Fri Apr 14 17:43:41 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: CFV: comp.sys.mac.games reorganization
Followup-To: poster
Date: 11 Apr 1995 18:09:57 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 3 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.action
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.adventure
             moderated group comp.sys.mac.games.announce
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.misc
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.strategic

Newsgroups lines:
comp.sys.mac.games.action	Action games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.adventure	Adventure games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.announce	Announcements for Mac gamers. (Moderated)
comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim	Flight simulator gameplay on the Mac.
comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace	Macintosh games for sale and trade.
comp.sys.mac.games.misc		Macintosh games not covered in other groups.
comp.sys.mac.games.strategic	Strategy/planning games on the Macintosh.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 May 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Christina Schulman <[email protected]>.

CHARTERS

comp.sys.mac.games.action

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of action/arcade
games. Action and arcade games are generally fast paced games which have
a simple goal, and usually require good hand-eye coordination.  Examples
include Marathon, Maelstrom, Apeiron, and the as-yet-nonexistent Mac
version of DOOM.


comp.sys.mac.games.adventure

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of adventure and
role-playing games.  Adventure and role-playing games are generally
games in which a character or group of characters under the player's
control is presented with puzzles, problems, and obstacles which must be
overcome to attain the game's goal.  Examples include the Monkey Island
games, Myst, Realmz and Exile.


comp.sys.mac.games.announce

        This moderated group is for informative posts of general interest
to the Mac gaming community.  Examples include announcements of new game
releases, new ftp sites, game reviews, and FAQ's.  Followups will be
redirected to csmg.misc (should it pass) or another appropriate subgroup
at the moderator's discretion.

        The moderator will be Matthew Mills, [email protected]  The alternate
moderator in case of vacation or periods of heavy traffic (the Marathon
release, for example) will be Christina Schulman, [email protected]
Several backup moderators are also available.  The submission address
will be [email protected]


comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of flight
simulation games.  Flight simulations are games which simulate a real
or theoretically plausible air vehicle (using today's current
technology as its basis), and allow players to manipulate it as if
it were real.  Examples include F/A-18 Hornet and Hellcats.

        This group does not cover the same subject as
rec.aviation.simulators, although they are related.  Again,
rec.aviation.simulators is concerned with realism and related issues,
while this group is more concerned with game play.


comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace

       This unmoderated group is for the posting of for-sale, trade,
and wanted ads for Mac games.


comp.sys.mac.games.misc  (replaces comp.sys.mac.games)

	This unmoderated group is for the discussion of all topics that
do not fall under another games subgroup.  This group will take the place
of the current c.s.m.g and will carry all discussions that should not
be carried out in other games subgroups.

	Should comp.sys.mac.games.misc pass, comp.sys.mac.games
shall be rmgrouped three months after the creation of c.s.m.g.misc.

	The goal here is to preserve the hierarchical standards of the
net - If a group is created from group foo.bar, such as foo.bar.stuff,
then foo.bar should move to foo.bar.misc in order to keep everything
at the same level.  If you vote for any other group in this vote you
should probably be voting for this as well (but it is not required).


comp.sys.mac.games.strategic

       This unmoderated group is for the discussion of strategy games.
Strategy games usually involve complex manipulation of game resources
in many different ways, which directly affects the progress and outcome
of the game.  Also included within this description are wargames, which
often involve similar strategic planning operations.  Examples include
Civilization, TacOps, Spaceward Ho, and SimCity 2000.

RATIONALE

	c.s.m.g is a high-volume newsgroup (200 or more posts a day is
very common), which has resulted in many people being unable to keep up
with the group in a reasonable way even with the use of killfiles.

	The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.games shall be divided into a
series of subgroups based on the long-term topics that are currently
all in a single group.  This split is based on the very successful
earlier split of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.

HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

It would be apprciated by the votetaker if you did NOT forward the entire
CFV back; this mail is archived and I really don't need several hundred
copies of the CFV on my system.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
comp.sys.mac.games reorg Ballot    <CSMG-0001> (Don't remove this marker)

Please give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.action
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.adventure
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.announce
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.misc (replaces comp.sys.mac.games)
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.strategic
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] Tue Apr 18 22:42:44 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.sys.mac.games reorganization
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:17:49 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 166
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 3 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.action
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.adventure
             moderated group comp.sys.mac.games.announce
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.misc
           unmoderated group comp.sys.mac.games.strategic

Newsgroups lines:
comp.sys.mac.games.action       Action games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.adventure    Adventure games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.announce     Announcements for Mac gamers. (Moderated)
comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim   Flight simulator gameplay on the Mac.
comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace  Macintosh games for sale and trade.
comp.sys.mac.games.misc         Macintosh games not covered in other groups.
comp.sys.mac.games.strategic    Strategy/planning games on the Macintosh.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 May 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Christina Schulman <[email protected]>.

CHARTERS

comp.sys.mac.games.action

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of action/arcade
games. Action and arcade games are generally fast paced games which have
a simple goal, and usually require good hand-eye coordination.  Examples
include Marathon, Maelstrom, Apeiron, and the as-yet-nonexistent Mac
version of DOOM.


comp.sys.mac.games.adventure

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of adventure and
role-playing games.  Adventure and role-playing games are generally
games in which a character or group of characters under the player's
control is presented with puzzles, problems, and obstacles which must be
overcome to attain the game's goal.  Examples include the Monkey Island
games, Myst, Realmz and Exile.


comp.sys.mac.games.announce

        This moderated group is for informative posts of general interest
to the Mac gaming community.  Examples include announcements of new game
releases, new ftp sites, game reviews, and FAQ's.  Followups will be
redirected to csmg.misc (should it pass) or another appropriate subgroup
at the moderator's discretion.

        The moderator will be Matthew Mills, [email protected]  The alternate
moderator in case of vacation or periods of heavy traffic (the Marathon
release, for example) will be Christina Schulman, [email protected]
Several backup moderators are also available.  The submission address
will be [email protected]


comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of flight
simulation games.  Flight simulations are games which simulate a real
or theoretically plausible air vehicle (using today's current
technology as its basis), and allow players to manipulate it as if
it were real.  Examples include F/A-18 Hornet and Hellcats.

        This group does not cover the same subject as
rec.aviation.simulators, although they are related.  Again,
rec.aviation.simulators is concerned with realism and related issues,
while this group is more concerned with game play.


comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace

       This unmoderated group is for the posting of for-sale, trade,
and wanted ads for Mac games.


comp.sys.mac.games.misc  (replaces comp.sys.mac.games)

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of all topics that
do not fall under another games subgroup.  This group will take the place
of the current c.s.m.g and will carry all discussions that should not
be carried out in other games subgroups.

        Should comp.sys.mac.games.misc pass, comp.sys.mac.games
shall be rmgrouped three months after the creation of c.s.m.g.misc.

        The goal here is to preserve the hierarchical standards of the
net - If a group is created from group foo.bar, such as foo.bar.stuff,
then foo.bar should move to foo.bar.misc in order to keep everything
at the same level.  If you vote for any other group in this vote you
should probably be voting for this as well (but it is not required).


comp.sys.mac.games.strategic

       This unmoderated group is for the discussion of strategy games.
Strategy games usually involve complex manipulation of game resources
in many different ways, which directly affects the progress and outcome
of the game.  Also included within this description are wargames, which
often involve similar strategic planning operations.  Examples include
Civilization, TacOps, Spaceward Ho, and SimCity 2000.

RATIONALE

        c.s.m.g is a high-volume newsgroup (200 or more posts a day is
very common), which has resulted in many people being unable to keep up
with the group in a reasonable way even with the use of killfiles.

        The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.games shall be divided into a
series of subgroups based on the long-term topics that are currently
all in a single group.  This split is based on the very successful
earlier split of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.

HOW TO VOTE

You must send MAIL to [email protected]  (Posting in a newsgroup does not
constitute a vote.)  Just replying to this article should work unless you
are reading it on a mailing list, but please check the TO address.

Please remove text before the marker line below.  Voting mail is archived
by the votetakers, and hundreds of copies of the entire CFV wastes space.

Type your vote of YES or NO for each group on the line for that group.
If you do not wish to vote for a group, simply leave that line alone.
You need not worry about quoting characters which your mailer inserts.
Please type YES or NO, not Y, N, or X.  The votes are tabulated by a
program, and a valid vote is defined as the word YES or NO on the same
line as the name of the group.

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Please give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
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[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.action
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.adventure
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.announce
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.misc (replaces comp.sys.mac.games)
[         ]  comp.sys.mac.games.strategic
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You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

comp.sys.mac.games reorg Bounce List - No need to revote
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[email protected]                    Michael G. Cancellier
[email protected]                                Andre' Wilhelmus
[email protected]                                       JOHN T LINTHICUM
[email protected]                                        M. 'Mac & me' Otto
[email protected]                                             Patrick Magruder

From [email protected] Wed May  3 19:18:06 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Steve Bonine)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.mac.games reorganization passes
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 3 May 1995 15:43:20 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 987
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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                              RESULT
          comp.sys.mac.games reorg results - 836 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 745   59 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.mac.games.action
 743   60 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.mac.games.adventure
 778   42 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.mac.games.announce
 702   89 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim
 712   79 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace
 763   57 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.mac.games.misc
                                (replaces comp.sys.mac.games)
 740   64 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.sys.mac.games.strategic
   8 invalid votes

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the groups shortly thereafter.  The
superseded group (comp.sys.mac.games) will be removed in three months.

Newsgroups lines:
comp.sys.mac.games.action       Action games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.adventure    Adventure games for the Macintosh.
comp.sys.mac.games.announce     Announcements for Mac gamers. (Moderated)
comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim   Flight simulator gameplay on the Mac.
comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace  Macintosh games for sale and trade.
comp.sys.mac.games.misc         Macintosh games not covered in other groups.
comp.sys.mac.games.strategic    Strategy/planning games on the Macintosh.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 2 May 1995.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only contact Steve Bonine <[email protected]>.  For questions about the proposed
group contact Christina Schulman <[email protected]>.

CHARTERS

comp.sys.mac.games.action

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of action/arcade
games. Action and arcade games are generally fast paced games which have
a simple goal, and usually require good hand-eye coordination.  Examples
include Marathon, Maelstrom, Apeiron, and the as-yet-nonexistent Mac
version of DOOM.


comp.sys.mac.games.adventure

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of adventure and
role-playing games.  Adventure and role-playing games are generally
games in which a character or group of characters under the player's
control is presented with puzzles, problems, and obstacles which must be
overcome to attain the game's goal.  Examples include the Monkey Island
games, Myst, Realmz and Exile.


comp.sys.mac.games.announce

        This moderated group is for informative posts of general interest
to the Mac gaming community.  Examples include announcements of new game
releases, new ftp sites, game reviews, and FAQ's.  Followups will be
redirected to csmg.misc (should it pass) or another appropriate subgroup
at the moderator's discretion.

        The moderator will be Matthew Mills, [email protected]  The alternate
moderator in case of vacation or periods of heavy traffic (the Marathon
release, for example) will be Christina Schulman, [email protected]
Several backup moderators are also available.  The submission address
will be [email protected]


comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of flight
simulation games.  Flight simulations are games which simulate a real
or theoretically plausible air vehicle (using today's current
technology as its basis), and allow players to manipulate it as if
it were real.  Examples include F/A-18 Hornet and Hellcats.

        This group does not cover the same subject as
rec.aviation.simulators, although they are related.  Again,
rec.aviation.simulators is concerned with realism and related issues,
while this group is more concerned with game play.


comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace

       This unmoderated group is for the posting of for-sale, trade,
and wanted ads for Mac games.


comp.sys.mac.games.misc  (replaces comp.sys.mac.games)

        This unmoderated group is for the discussion of all topics that
do not fall under another games subgroup.  This group will take the place
of the current c.s.m.g and will carry all discussions that should not
be carried out in other games subgroups.

        Should comp.sys.mac.games.misc pass, comp.sys.mac.games
shall be rmgrouped three months after the creation of c.s.m.g.misc.

        The goal here is to preserve the hierarchical standards of the
net - If a group is created from group foo.bar, such as foo.bar.stuff,
then foo.bar should move to foo.bar.misc in order to keep everything
at the same level.  If you vote for any other group in this vote you
should probably be voting for this as well (but it is not required).


comp.sys.mac.games.strategic

       This unmoderated group is for the discussion of strategy games.
Strategy games usually involve complex manipulation of game resources
in many different ways, which directly affects the progress and outcome
of the game.  Also included within this description are wargames, which
often involve similar strategic planning operations.  Examples include
Civilization, TacOps, Spaceward Ho, and SimCity 2000.

comp.sys.mac.games reorg Final Vote Ack


                                       comp.sys.mac.games.strategic ---------+
              comp.sys.mac.games.misc (replaces comp.sys.mac.games) --------+|
                                     comp.sys.mac.games.marketplace -------+||
                                      comp.sys.mac.games.flight-sim ------+|||
                                        comp.sys.mac.games.announce -----+||||
                                       comp.sys.mac.games.adventure ----+|||||
                                          comp.sys.mac.games.action ---+||||||
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