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From [email protected] Wed Oct 27 16:04:55 1993
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From: [email protected] (David Barr)
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Subject: RFD: moderating comp.unix.wizards
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The following is a Request For Discussion on making the newsgroup
comp.unix.wizards a moderated newsgroup.

Rationale:

- comp.unix.wizards has become "yet another group to post to"
  by UNIX novices wanting an "expert" to answer their question.
  Novices have a tendency to feel their questions will be answered
  more quickly/better if they post to comp.unix.wizards instead of
  a more appropriate group like comp.unix.questions.

- Frequent postings to comp.unix.wizards have not solved the problem
  of off-topic posts.

- The content of comp.unix.wizards tends to be a melting pot of
  comp.unix.questions, comp.unix.internals, and your average
  comp.sys.foo.* group.  It has no character of its own.

Below is the proposed moderator's guidelines.  This has been discussed
for several days in comp.unix.wizards, with positive results.
Discussion of the guidelines and expected issues follows at the end of
this article.

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		comp.unix.wizards - Moderator's Guidelines

	comp.unix.wizards is a newsgroup for UNIX wizards.  It is
a moderated newsgroup.  Articles posted to this newgroup should
automatically be send to the moderator, [email protected]

	This is a group for wizards.  The jargon file defines a
wizard as the following:

:wizard: n. 1. A person who knows how a complex piece of software
   or hardware works (that is, who {grok}s it); esp. someone who
   can find and fix bugs quickly in an emergency.  Someone is a
   {hacker} if he or she has general hacking ability, but is a wizard
   with respect to something only if he or she has specific detailed
   knowledge of that thing.  A good hacker could become a wizard for
   something given the time to study it.  2. A person who is permitted
   to do things forbidden to ordinary people; one who has {wheel}
   privileges on a system.  3. A UNIX expert, esp. a UNIX systems
   programmer.  This usage is well enough established that `UNIX
   Wizard' is a recognized job title at some corporations and to most
   headhunters.  See {guru}, {lord high fixer}.  See also
   {deep magic}, {heavy wizardry}, {incantation}, {magic},
   {mutter}, {rain dance}, {voodoo programming}, {wave a
   dead chicken}.


1.  Topics discussed in this group must be of a 'wizardly' nature.  
    (What is this?  Well, see above, and see below)

2.  Questions which can be found in FAQ's will NOT be allowed.
    Wizards write FAQ's, so read them!

3.  Non-wizardly questions about particular vendor's *NIX flavor will
    NOT be allowed.  Post to the appropriate comp.os.* or comp.sys.*
    group instead.

4.  Basic questions about UNIX internals will NOT be allowed.  Use the
    existing group comp.unix.internals.  

	If there is any article which is of a questionable nature,
they will most likely be posted.  I envision moderation for this group
akin to decanting a bottle of country wine.  The wine may still suck,
but at least you're not drinking sludge.
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- "If you moderate comp.unix.wizards, the group will die."
	I doubt it.  There are many moderated discussion groups
that are of a technical nature.  Moderation is there simply to
stop clear non-wizardly discussion, not to stifle other traffic.

- "comp.unix.wizards should be moderated by a True Wizard"
	I fully admit I am not a True Wizard.  If a True Wizard wishes
to moderate this group in a just manner, I would be happy to let
him/her moderate it.  Unfortunately, most True Wizards don't have the
time (or inclination) to moderate a newsgroup such as this.  However, I
don't feel that it is necessary to be a True Wizard to be able to
reasonably determine what is wizardly and what is not.

- "I read the list of topics that aren't allowed to be discussed here --
what's left?"
	Lots of stuff!  Hacks, quirks, tips, implementation issues,
obscure UNIX history, "How to Spot a Wizard From Quite a Long Way
Away", you name it!

- "What about backup moderators?"
	I have had two volunteers for backup moderators.
-- 
System Administrator, Penn State Population Research Institute
lose: v. to miss from one's possession.
loose: adj. not securely fastened.  v. to set free.

From [email protected] Sat Nov 27 00:12:15 1993
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From: [email protected] (Jay Maynard)
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Subject: CFV: comp.unix.wizards moderation
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
 
Moderation of existing group comp.unix.wizards
 
Newsgroups line:   
comp.unix.wizards       For only true Unix wizards. (Moderated)


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 15 December 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only, contact Jay Maynard, [email protected] For questions about
the proposed group, contact the group's proposer, David Barr,
[email protected]


CHARTER

                comp.unix.wizards - Moderator's Guidelines

        comp.unix.wizards is a newsgroup for UNIX wizards.  It is
a moderated newsgroup.  Articles posted to this newgroup should
automatically be send to the moderator, [email protected]  The
moderator is David Barr <[email protected]>.

        This is a group for wizards.  The jargon file defines a
wizard as the following:

:wizard: n. 1. A person who knows how a complex piece of software
   or hardware works (that is, who {grok}s it); esp. someone who
   can find and fix bugs quickly in an emergency.  Someone is a
   {hacker} if he or she has general hacking ability, but is a wizard
   with respect to something only if he or she has specific detailed
   knowledge of that thing.  A good hacker could become a wizard for
   something given the time to study it.  2. A person who is permitted
   to do things forbidden to ordinary people; one who has {wheel}
   privileges on a system.  3. A UNIX expert, esp. a UNIX systems
   programmer.  This usage is well enough established that `UNIX
   Wizard' is a recognized job title at some corporations and to most
   headhunters.  See {guru}, {lord high fixer}.  See also
   {deep magic}, {heavy wizardry}, {incantation}, {magic},
   {mutter}, {rain dance}, {voodoo programming}, {wave a
   dead chicken}.


1.  Topics discussed in this group must be of a 'wizardly' nature.  
    (What is this?  Well, see above, and see below)

2.  Questions which can be found in FAQ's will NOT be allowed.
    Wizards write FAQ's, so read them!

3.  Non-wizardly questions about particular vendor's *NIX flavor will
    NOT be allowed.  Post to the appropriate comp.os.* or comp.sys.*
    group instead.

4.  Basic questions about UNIX internals will NOT be allowed.  Use the
    existing group comp.unix.internals.  

        If there is any article which is of a questionable nature,
they will most likely be posted.  I view moderation for this group
akin to decanting a bottle of country wine.  The wine may still suck,
but at least you're not drinking sludge.

STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to

      [email protected]

(just replying by MAIL to this posting should work, *if* your
newsreader honors the "Reply-To" line in the article header). Votes
sent to other addresses will be discarded.  Your mail message should
contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.unix.wizards moderation
      I vote NO on comp.unix.wizards moderation
      I vote ABSTAIN on comp.unix.wizards moderation
      I vote CANCEL on comp.unix.wizards moderation

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving
the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be
rejected by the automatic vote counting program. If you later change your mind
you may send in another vote, which will automatically supercede all previous
votes. "ABSTAIN" votes serve only to record that you sent a vote. "CANCEL"
votes remove your name (and vote) from the list of voters. Please don't
include the whole CFV; I already have a copy, and it just wastes disk space.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  For the group to be created, 100 more
YES votes than NO votes must be cast, and 2/3 of all valid votes must be YES
votes. "ABSTAIN" votes are not counted in either calculation; their only role
is to cancel previous votes. 

Every vote will be acknowledged by EMail. The CFV will be repeated once; the
second CFV will contain a "bounce-ack", i.e. a list of people whose ACK
messages bounced when I sent them.  All votes will be listed in the posting
with the results of the vote; this is necessary to allow independent
validation of the vote should a third party choose to do so.  
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
[email protected]      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
    "The road to Usenet is littered with dead horses." -- Jack Hamilton

From [email protected] Tue Dec  7 18:06:31 1993
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From: [email protected] (Jay Maynard)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.unix.wizards moderation
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
 
Moderation of existing group comp.unix.wizards
 
Newsgroups line:   
comp.unix.wizards       For only true Unix wizards. (Moderated)


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 GMT, 15 December 1993.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions
only, contact Jay Maynard, [email protected] For questions about
the proposed group, contact the group's proposer, David Barr,
[email protected]


CHARTER

                comp.unix.wizards - Moderator's Guidelines

        comp.unix.wizards is a newsgroup for UNIX wizards.  It is
a moderated newsgroup.  Articles posted to this newgroup should
automatically be send to the moderator, [email protected]  The
moderator is David Barr <[email protected]>.

        This is a group for wizards.  The jargon file defines a
wizard as the following:

:wizard: n. 1. A person who knows how a complex piece of software
   or hardware works (that is, who {grok}s it); esp. someone who
   can find and fix bugs quickly in an emergency.  Someone is a
   {hacker} if he or she has general hacking ability, but is a wizard
   with respect to something only if he or she has specific detailed
   knowledge of that thing.  A good hacker could become a wizard for
   something given the time to study it.  2. A person who is permitted
   to do things forbidden to ordinary people; one who has {wheel}
   privileges on a system.  3. A UNIX expert, esp. a UNIX systems
   programmer.  This usage is well enough established that `UNIX
   Wizard' is a recognized job title at some corporations and to most
   headhunters.  See {guru}, {lord high fixer}.  See also
   {deep magic}, {heavy wizardry}, {incantation}, {magic},
   {mutter}, {rain dance}, {voodoo programming}, {wave a
   dead chicken}.


1.  Topics discussed in this group must be of a 'wizardly' nature.  
    (What is this?  Well, see above, and see below)

2.  Questions which can be found in FAQ's will NOT be allowed.
    Wizards write FAQ's, so read them!

3.  Non-wizardly questions about particular vendor's *NIX flavor will
    NOT be allowed.  Post to the appropriate comp.os.* or comp.sys.*
    group instead.

4.  Basic questions about UNIX internals will NOT be allowed.  Use the
    existing group comp.unix.internals.  

        If there is any article which is of a questionable nature,
they will most likely be posted.  I view moderation for this group
akin to decanting a bottle of country wine.  The wine may still suck,
but at least you're not drinking sludge.

STANDARD VOTING INFO

You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to

      [email protected]

(just replying by MAIL to this posting should work, *if* your
newsreader honors the "Reply-To" line in the article header). Votes
sent to other addresses will be discarded.  Your mail message should
contain one and only one of the following statements:

      I vote YES on comp.unix.wizards moderation
      I vote NO on comp.unix.wizards moderation
      I vote ABSTAIN on comp.unix.wizards moderation
      I vote CANCEL on comp.unix.wizards moderation

You may add a comment, but anything other than a definite statement involving
the group name and "yes", "no", "for", or "against" on a single line may be
rejected by the automatic vote counting program. If you later change your mind
you may send in another vote, which will automatically supercede all previous
votes. "ABSTAIN" votes serve only to record that you sent a vote. "CANCEL"
votes remove your name (and vote) from the list of voters. Please don't
include the whole CFV; I already have a copy, and it just wastes disk space.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  For the group to be created, 100 more
YES votes than NO votes must be cast, and 2/3 of all valid votes must be YES
votes. "ABSTAIN" votes are not counted in either calculation; their only role
is to cancel previous votes. 

Every vote will be acknowledged by EMail. Below is a list of people whose
acknowledgement messages bounced when I sent them; if you are in that list, or
have received an acknowledgement from me, your vote has been recorded and you
do not need to vote again unless you wish to change your vote. If you are not
sure, please vote again; all duplicates will be removed from the final tally
before the results are counted. All votes will be listed in the posting with
the results of the vote; this is necessary to allow independent validation of
the vote should a third party choose to do so. 

comp.unix.wizards moderation vote Bounce Ack List
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    "The road to Usenet is littered with dead horses." -- Jack Hamilton

From [email protected] Mon Dec 27 23:23:58 1993
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Moderation of comp.unix.wizards

comp.unix.wizards moderation vote results - 544 valid votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 492   50 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.unix.wizards

   2 abstaining votes and 1 invalid votes

This margin is adequate for the proposed change to moderated status. Barring
serious controversy about the vote, the group will be moderated about five
days after this is posted. 

Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT, 15 December 1993.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  

Vote-taker's address:           [email protected]
Group proponent's address:      [email protected]

Newsgroups line:   

comp.unix.wizards       For only true Unix wizards. (Moderated)

CHARTER (as printed in the Call for Votes)

                comp.unix.wizards - Moderator's Guidelines

        comp.unix.wizards is a newsgroup for UNIX wizards.  It is
a moderated newsgroup.  Articles posted to this newgroup should
automatically be send to the moderator, [email protected]  The
moderator is David Barr <[email protected]>.

        This is a group for wizards.  The jargon file defines a
wizard as the following:

:wizard: n. 1. A person who knows how a complex piece of software
   or hardware works (that is, who {grok}s it); esp. someone who
   can find and fix bugs quickly in an emergency.  Someone is a
   {hacker} if he or she has general hacking ability, but is a wizard
   with respect to something only if he or she has specific detailed
   knowledge of that thing.  A good hacker could become a wizard for
   something given the time to study it.  2. A person who is permitted
   to do things forbidden to ordinary people; one who has {wheel}
   privileges on a system.  3. A UNIX expert, esp. a UNIX systems
   programmer.  This usage is well enough established that `UNIX
   Wizard' is a recognized job title at some corporations and to most
   headhunters.  See {guru}, {lord high fixer}.  See also
   {deep magic}, {heavy wizardry}, {incantation}, {magic},
   {mutter}, {rain dance}, {voodoo programming}, {wave a
   dead chicken}.


1.  Topics discussed in this group must be of a 'wizardly' nature.  
    (What is this?  Well, see above, and see below)

2.  Questions which can be found in FAQ's will NOT be allowed.
    Wizards write FAQ's, so read them!

3.  Non-wizardly questions about particular vendor's *NIX flavor will
    NOT be allowed.  Post to the appropriate comp.os.* or comp.sys.*
    group instead.

4.  Basic questions about UNIX internals will NOT be allowed.  Use the
    existing group comp.unix.internals.  

        If there is any article which is of a questionable nature,
they will most likely be posted.  I view moderation for this group
akin to decanting a bottle of country wine.  The wine may still suck,
but at least you're not drinking sludge.

comp.unix.wizards moderation vote Final Vote Ack


Yes Votes
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[email protected]                                               David Pardoe
[email protected]                     Adrian Booth Computing Consultants
[email protected]                                                Andy Wardley
[email protected]                               Andrew A. Chernov, Black Mage
[email protected]                                              Andy Gavin
[email protected]                                                          Axel Dunkel
adam%[email protected]                                  Adam Shostack
adb%[email protected]                                    Anthony DeBoer
[email protected]                                              Adrian Godwin
[email protected]                                                 Adrian Hart
[email protected]                              Alexander Konstantinou
[email protected]     Alan Rollow - Alan's Home for Wayward Tumbleweeds.
[email protected]                                        Alexander Weidt
[email protected]                                                
[email protected]                                          Aled Morris
[email protected]                                                                 
[email protected]                                    Andras Salamon
[email protected]                                     Andrew Cornwall
[email protected]                     ,2285592, Andrew Dunstan
[email protected]                                                        
[email protected]                                        Andrew W. Hagen
[email protected]                                 Andre Beck
[email protected]                                        Andrew Finkenstadt
[email protected]                                                 Andy Latto
[email protected]                                            Andy Sherman
[email protected]                                               Andy Norman
[email protected]                                           Anne Bennett
[email protected]                                             Andreas Polzer
[email protected]                                             Vincent Archer
[email protected]                                             Ariel Faigon
[email protected]                                      Alene Kercheval
[email protected]                                             Arne Henrik Juul
aspgd21!dt07039%[email protected]                             Greg Stanton
[email protected]                                                             
bab%[email protected]                                        Brian Button
[email protected]                                        Christoph Badura
[email protected]                                             Jatinder Bali
[email protected]                                Madhu Babu Bandireddi
[email protected].org                                                             
[email protected]                                     Steve Barnet
[email protected]                                                    David Barr
[email protected]                                         Alan Barrett
[email protected]                                        Barrie Spence
[email protected]                                           
[email protected]                                     John Beacom
[email protected]                                          David Beckman
[email protected]                                                  Robert Beers
[email protected]                                                 Benoit Grange
[email protected]                                      Bernard Fouche
[email protected]                                       Anna Pluzhnikov
[email protected]                                            Bill Vermillion
[email protected]                                 Ralph B. Bisland, Jr.
[email protected]                                                  B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                              Bernard Vianen
[email protected]                                                  Bob Weissman
[email protected]                                          Bill Bogstad
[email protected]                                    Stephane Bortzmeyer
[email protected]                                            Bryan O'Sullivan
[email protected]                                   Heddy BOUBAKER
[email protected]                                        Peter G. Bouillon
[email protected]                                          Bill Dennen
[email protected]                                                   Dave Brennan
[email protected]                                         Brian Kirouac
[email protected]                                          the guru dude
[email protected]                                       Brian de Alwis
[email protected]               Andreas Buschmann US/END 60/1/25 Tel.71409
[email protected]                                       Chris Seelig
[email protected]                                        Claus Assmann
[email protected]                                                   Carl Brown
[email protected]                    Calum Mackay
[email protected]                                  Carl Brewer
[email protected]                                            Carl Johnson
[email protected]                                                   Chuck Benson
[email protected]                                          Charles M. Shub
[email protected]                                                Chris Elvin
[email protected]                                           Caroline Blackmun
[email protected]                                                     Cenwulf
[email protected]                                  Chris G. Demetriou
[email protected]                               John William Chambless
[email protected]                                               Alun
[email protected]                                 Charles Butcher
[email protected]                                       Erik Chell
[email protected]                                                    Chet Ramey
chip%[email protected]                                    Chip Salzenberg
[email protected]                                        Chip Rosenthal
[email protected]                                     Christian Hastedt-Marckwardt
[email protected]                                          
[email protected]                                              Chris Marble
[email protected]                                 Chris Siebenmann
[email protected]                                               Clem Taylor
[email protected]                                       Steve Clements
[email protected]                                       Ian Cameron Smith
[email protected]                                                    Chris Downey
[email protected]                                     Chuck Eubanks
[email protected]                                               Craig Metz
[email protected]                                                      Clive King
[email protected]                                      Anthony Collins
[email protected]                                                               
[email protected]                                   Nicolas Courtel
[email protected]                               William L. Crawford
[email protected]                                             Jim Crook
[email protected]                                Christian Sebeke
[email protected]                                      Kevin Brannen
[email protected]                                 David Smith
[email protected]                          Michael Feinstein
[email protected]                                                Curt Tilmes
[email protected]                                        Dave Daurelle
[email protected]                                                          
[email protected]                                                 Ian Dall
[email protected]                                                              
[email protected]                                 Daniel Len Schales
[email protected]                                                     Dan Busarow
[email protected]                                      Dan Schlitt
[email protected]                                           Danny R. Boxhoorn
[email protected]                                                  Dan Pop
[email protected]                                                David J. Fiander
[email protected]                                      Palmer Davis
[email protected]                                              Dyane Bruce
[email protected]                                               Danny Backx
[email protected]                                        Dave Carrigan
[email protected]                                        David C. Young
[email protected]                                           Drew Dean
[email protected]                                                Dan Horsfall
[email protected]                                 De Mickey   (ext 2673  rm 4440B)
[email protected]                                            Dejan Vucinic
[email protected]                                       Bob Devine
[email protected]_img.b15.ingr.com                                      Daniel F. Wygant
[email protected]                                           Mandeep Dhami
DHARPER%[email protected]                                                 
[email protected]                                          Ravikumar Dikkala
[email protected]                                            David L. Craig
[email protected]                                                     Dan Murphy
dnh%[email protected]                                            Des Herriott
[email protected]                                            Michael Dobson
[email protected]                                               marc (m.) donovan
[email protected]                                                    Doug Sewell
[email protected]                                           Doug McNaught
[email protected]                                     Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                          Dan McLaughlin
[email protected]                                    Drew Eckhardt
[email protected]                                 Daniel R. Oelke
[email protected]                                            Duane T. Mun
[email protected]                                         Adam Duff
[email protected]                                           Duncan Gibson
[email protected]                      Durval Pereira de Menezes Jr.
[email protected]                                Mirko Dziadzka
[email protected]                                                            
[email protected]                                           David Edelsohn
[email protected]                                       John E. Mendenhall
[email protected]                              Edvard Tuinder
[email protected]                                                 Paul Eggert
[email protected]                                                Eric J. Haug
[email protected]                                             Ed Taychert
[email protected]                                               Eric Prestemon
[email protected]                                                 
[email protected]                                            Erik Sean Nolte
[email protected]                                   James W. McKelvey
[email protected]                                             Fco. J. Ballesteros
[email protected]                               Quentin Fennessy
[email protected]                                            Frank Kaefer
[email protected]                                                  
[email protected]                                                    Frank Flesland
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                        Lawrence Kirby
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
[email protected]                                           Jamie Mason
[email protected]                                              Gabe Helou
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