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From [email protected] Mon May 29 22:34:33 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Patrick M. Lashley)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.news
Subject: RFD: comp.windows.news moderation
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Date: 28 May 1995 18:35:39 -0400
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			REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group comp.windows.news (moderates existing unmoderated group)

RATIONALE:

comp.windows.news predates Microsoft Windows, but has been overwhelmed
with Microsoft-related postings, which would be more proper in the
comp.os.ms-windows.* hierarchy.  Comp.windows.misc and comp.lang.visual
recently went moderated for the same reason.

PROPOSED GROUPS:

This proposal does not create any new groups, but does change the
status of comp.windows.news to moderated.

This message is a call to discuss the proposed change. (See PROCEDURE below.)

The proposed moderator is Patrick M. Lashley <[email protected]>.
He was a NeWS user at a Beta site, then joined the NeWS Technology
group at Sun, eventually becomming Technical Lead and Project Lead
for The NeWS Toolkit.

CHARTER:

comp.windows.news

    comp.windows.news is dedicated to the discussion of the Network
    extensible Windowing System developed and marketed by Sun Microsystems
    during the late 80's and early 90's. Topics include the NeWS server,
    NeWS-specific issues relating to the X/NeWS server, the NeWS dialect
    of PostScript, and any efforts to produce NeWS-compatible systems.

PROCEDURE:

Discussion of this request will occur in news.groups.  There will be a
30 day discussion period, followed by a call for votes.  There will then
be a voting period of 21 to 31 days, with intermediate results and a
repeat of the CFV during that period.  The voting process will be handled
by a neutral third party (the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers.)  Once the
voting period is over and the results announced, there will be a short
waiting period to correct any errors.  If, after that time, the proposal
has passed, the appropriate control messages will be sent to change
the status of comp.windows.NeWS.


DISTRIBUTION:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.windows.news

Proposed by Patrick M. Lashley <[email protected]>
-- 
My opinions are my own.  For a small royalty, they can be yours as well...
Pat Lashley, Senior Software Engineer, Henry Davis Consulting
1098 Lynn, Sunnyvale, CA 94087	||  408/720-9039  ||  [email protected]


From [email protected] Fri Oct 27 00:42:32 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: Pat Lashley <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.news
Subject: RFD: comp.windows.news moderation
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 27 Oct 1995 04:42:00 -0000
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
     moderated group comp.windows.news (moderates existing group)

This proposal does not create any new groups, but does change the
status of comp.windows.news to moderated.

This message is a call to discuss the proposed change.
(See PROCEDURE below.)

RATIONALE: comp.windows.news

Comp.windows.news predates Microsoft Windows, but has been overwhelmed
with Microsoft-related postings, which would be more proper in the
comp.os.ms-windows-* hierarchy.  Comp.windows.misc and comp.lang.visual
have recently undergone moderation votes for the same reason.


CHARTER: comp.windows.news

comp.windows.news is dedicated to the discussion of the Network
extensible Windowing System developed and marketed by Sun Microsystems
from the mid 80's through the early 90's.  Topics include the NeWS
server, NeWS-specific issues relating to the X/NeWS server, the NeWS
dialect of PostScript, and any efforts to produce NeWS-compatible systems.

Generally, any article bearing any connection to NeWS will be accepted,
but fringe postings may have a more relevant followup group suggestion
appended.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.windows.news

Moderator: Patrick M. Lashley <[email protected]>

He was a NeWS user at a Beta site, then joined the NeWS Technology
group at Sun, eventually becomming Technical Lead and Project Lead
for The NeWS Toolkit just before NeWS was canceled.  He is now a
consultant.

END MODERATOR INFO.

PROCEDURE:

Discussion of this request will occur in news.groups.  There will be a
30 day discussion period, followed by a call for votes.  There will then
be a voting period of 21 to 31 days, with intermediate results and a
repeat of the CFV during that period.  The voting process will be handled
by a neutral third party (the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers.)  Once the
voting period is over and the results announced, there will be a short
waiting period to correct any errors.  If, after that time, the proposal
has passed, the appropriate control messages will be sent to change
the status of comp.windows.news.

Proposed by Patrick M. Lashley <[email protected]>

From [email protected] Mon Nov 20 20:07:41 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.news
Subject: CFV: comp.windows.news moderated
Followup-To: poster
Date: 21 Nov 1995 01:06:59 -0000
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 13 Dec 1995 00:00:00 GMT
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7904 news.groups:175121 comp.windows.news:5678

                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
     moderated group comp.windows.news (moderates existing group)

Newsgroups line:
comp.windows.news	The Network Extensable Windowing System. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 Dec 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Pat Lashley <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: comp.windows.news

Comp.windows.news predates Microsoft Windows, but has been overwhelmed
with Microsoft-related postings, which would be more proper in the
comp.os.ms-windows-* hierarchy.  Comp.windows.misc and comp.lang.visual
have undergone moderation votes for the same reason.

CHARTER: comp.windows.news

Comp.windows.news is dedicated to the discussion of the Network
extensible Windowing System developed and marketed by Sun Microsystems
from the mid 80's through the early 90's. Topics include the NeWS
server, NeWS-specific issues relating to the X/NeWS server, the NeWS
dialect of PostScript, and any efforts to produce NeWS-compatible
systems.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.windows.news

Moderator:              Pat Lashley <[email protected]>
Submission address:	NeWS list <[email protected]>
Contact address:	NeWS list <[email protected]>

END MODERATOR INFO.

HOW TO VOTE

Send E-MAIL to:   [email protected]

Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

      I vote YES on comp.windows.news
      I vote NO on comp.windows.news

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and
don't affect the vote count.

If your mail software doesn't indicate your real name, please also
include the following statement and add your name (on the same line).

	Voter name:

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION:

This Call for Votes is being posted to the following newsgroups:

	news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.news

From [email protected] Wed Nov 29 17:53:36 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.news
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.windows.news moderated
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 29 Nov 1995 22:53:30 -0000
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
     moderated group comp.windows.news (moderates existing group)

Newsgroups line:
comp.windows.news	The Network extensible Windowing System. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 12 Dec 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Pat Lashley <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>

RATIONALE: comp.windows.news

Comp.windows.news predates Microsoft Windows, but has been overwhelmed
with Microsoft-related postings, which would be more proper in the
comp.os.ms-windows-* hierarchy.  Comp.windows.misc and comp.lang.visual
have undergone moderation votes for the same reason.

CHARTER: comp.windows.news

Comp.windows.news is dedicated to the discussion of the Network
extensible Windowing System developed and marketed by Sun Microsystems
from the mid 80's through the early 90's. Topics include the NeWS
server, NeWS-specific issues relating to the X/NeWS server, the NeWS
dialect of PostScript, and any efforts to produce NeWS-compatible
systems.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.windows.news

Moderator:              Pat Lashley <[email protected]>
Submission address:	NeWS list <[email protected]>
Contact address:	NeWS list <[email protected]>

END MODERATOR INFO.

HOW TO VOTE

Send E-MAIL to:   [email protected]

Your e-mail message should contain one and only one of the following
statements:

      I vote YES on comp.windows.news
      I vote NO on comp.windows.news

You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL; these are not counted as votes and
don't affect the vote count.

If your mail software doesn't indicate your real name, please also
include the following statement and add your name (on the same line).

	Voter name:

VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:

Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes must
be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous,
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid; this includes votes generated by
WWW/HTML/CGI forms.

Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may mean
that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most
recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published
in the final voting results post.

The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.

DISTRIBUTION:

This Call for Votes is being posted to the following newsgroups:

	news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.news

From [email protected] Fri Dec 15 17:16:49 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.news
Subject: RESULT: comp.windows.news passes 136:25
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 15 Dec 1995 17:16:45 -0500
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Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8020 news.groups:179340 comp.windows.news:5799

                                RESULT
           moderated group comp.windows.news passes 136:25

There were 136 YES votes and 25 NO votes, for a total of 161 valid votes.
There was 1 abstain and 4 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
this proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Pat Lashley <[email protected]>
Votetaker: Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>

The remainder of the RESULT contains:
   Newsgroups Line
   Rationale
   Charter
   Final Voting Acknowledgements

Newsgroups line:
comp.windows.news	The Network extensible Windowing System. (Moderated)

RATIONALE: comp.windows.news

Comp.windows.news predates Microsoft Windows, but has been overwhelmed
with Microsoft-related postings, which would be more proper in the
comp.os.ms-windows-* hierarchy.  Comp.windows.misc and comp.lang.visual
have undergone moderation votes for the same reason.

CHARTER: comp.windows.news

Comp.windows.news is dedicated to the discussion of the Network
extensible Windowing System developed and marketed by Sun Microsystems
from the mid 80's through the early 90's. Topics include the NeWS
server, NeWS-specific issues relating to the X/NeWS server, the NeWS
dialect of PostScript, and any efforts to produce NeWS-compatible
systems.

END CHARTER.

MODERATOR INFO: comp.windows.news

Moderator:                      Pat Lashley <[email protected]>
Article submission address:     [email protected]
Administrative contact address: [email protected]

END MODERATOR INFO.

comp.windows.news Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                                           Aahz
[email protected]                                             Per Abrahamsen
[email protected]                                              Ambrose Li
[email protected]                                                 Andy Latto
[email protected]                                         Ken Arromdee
[email protected]                                                Ayn Shipley
[email protected]                                        Andreas Leibl
[email protected]                                               Todd Bain SanMillan
[email protected]                                              Bengt Larsson
[email protected]                                                David Berg
[email protected]                                                 B.J. Herbison
[email protected]                                Andreas Borchert
[email protected]                                        Peter G. Bouillon
[email protected]                                            Brian D Sammon
[email protected]                                                   Andrew Carey
[email protected]                                              Carl Schmidtmann
[email protected]                              Jeff Scofield
[email protected]                                              Ed Kolar
[email protected]                                           Charles Lindsey
[email protected]                                     Christopher Samuel
[email protected]                                                Colin Jensen
[email protected]                                   Christopher Lodge Stamper
[email protected]                                Matthew Crosby
[email protected]                                                      Don Croyle
[email protected]                                                      Dave Love
[email protected]                                             Don Ballard
[email protected]                                                     Don Woods
[email protected]                                            Doug McNaught
[email protected]                                              David Shaw
[email protected]                                                 Paul Eggert
[email protected]                                       E. Larry Lidz
[email protected]                                          Harald Fricke
[email protected]                                               Keith Brazington
[email protected]                                      Greg Lindahl
[email protected]                                       Simone Goetz
[email protected]                                        Michael Gold
[email protected]                                                  George Baltz
[email protected]                                          James Harvey
[email protected]                                                 Guenter Hauber
[email protected]                                               Henry Davis
[email protected]                                      Heikki Kantola
[email protected]                                            William R Ward
[email protected]                                                Don Hopkins
[email protected]                                                    Matt Hucke
[email protected]                                      Ian Jackson
[email protected]                                             Jeff Pleimling
[email protected]                                          Jeff Dinkins
[email protected]                                                Jeff Dunn
[email protected]                                     Jeffrey Carlyle
[email protected]                                           James Fisk
[email protected]                                    Klaus Joechle
[email protected]                                    Johannes Stille
[email protected]                                         Jon Abbott
[email protected]                                       J. Porter Clark
[email protected]                                                 Jeremy Allison
[email protected]                                                    Bob Boyd
[email protected]                                       Joshua Kreitzer
[email protected]                                        Jeff Uphoff
[email protected]                                          Kevin Clarke
[email protected]                                       Kenneth Herron
[email protected]                                              Kim DeVaughn
[email protected]                                       Markus Klenk
[email protected]                                              Kevin Mitchell
[email protected]                                    Larry Laskowski
[email protected]                                                           Liam Quin
[email protected]                                               Dave Lemke
[email protected]                                               Otmar Lendl
[email protected]                                                Mick Brown
[email protected]                                                    Louis Lin
[email protected]                                  Martin Schr"oder
[email protected]                                     Richard Lister
[email protected]                                                 Luigi Rosa
[email protected]                                                     Pete Lurie
[email protected]                                         Larry W. Virden, x2487
[email protected]                                      Martin Hasch
[email protected]                                             Matt Keller
[email protected]                                              S.Meneghini
[email protected]                                      Peter Merkle
[email protected]                                  meru p brunn
[email protected]                                              Marc H. Simkin
[email protected]                                           Mark Callow
[email protected]                                                    Bernhard Muenzer
[email protected]                                Elisabeth Mueller
[email protected]                                           Michael W. Daniels
[email protected]                                               Ken Nelson
[email protected]                                             Oliver Laumann
[email protected]                                    Oliver Schmid
[email protected]                                        Owen Densmore
[email protected]                                             Pat Lashley
[email protected]                                         Patrick Belknap
[email protected]                                         Paul Digby - PSG
[email protected]                                                  Paul Sarkar
[email protected]                                              Trevor Tymchuk
[email protected]                                    Dietmar Peglow
[email protected]                                      Peter Sullivan
[email protected]                                               Peter da Silva
[email protected]                                             Peter Lemmond
[email protected]                                            Steve Peterson
[email protected]                                                Peter G. Ford
[email protected]                                               Paul Hoffman
[email protected]                                           Paul Keusemann
[email protected]                                                     Ping Huang
[email protected]                                           Pirawat Watanapongse
[email protected]                                            Reto Lichtensteiger
[email protected]                                  Rainer Mallon
[email protected]                                      Ramesh Viswanathan
[email protected]                                  Raphael Quinet
[email protected]                               Andrew Raphael
[email protected]                                     Rui-Tao Dong 董瑞涛
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                       Rob Kroeger
[email protected]                                             Robbie Honerkamp
[email protected]                                            Rob Cairns
[email protected]                                  Joerg Rodemann
[email protected]                                      Rolf Schmid
[email protected]                                            J. Rufinus
[email protected]                                     Rafael Bracho
[email protected]                               Chandra Mohan Sarkar
[email protected]                                    David Allan Finch
[email protected]                                              David McFarling
[email protected]                                           Stephan
[email protected]                                   Gernot Schober
[email protected]                                                 Shapard Wolf
[email protected]                                      Duncan Sinclair
[email protected]                                             Steve Folkes
[email protected]                                Thomas Schweizer
[email protected]                                 Uwe Obermueller
[email protected]                                    Franz Schweiggert
[email protected]                                                   Tom Rushworth
[email protected]                                            Thomas G. McWilliams
[email protected]                                                  Tom Haapanen
[email protected]                                       Van A. Boughner
[email protected]                                          Wes Mitchell
[email protected]                                         Risto Widenius
[email protected]                               Juergen Schindler
[email protected]                                          Kent Paul Dolan

Voted No
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[email protected]                                         Andrew Fabbro
[email protected]                                                   Balaji
catambay#m#[email protected]                         Bill the Cat
[email protected]                                               Michiel Wijers
[email protected]                                                David Baker
[email protected]                                        Olivier Devuns @pulsar
[email protected]                                             Don Kiely
[email protected]                                                John Dowding
[email protected]                                            Daniel S Chen
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
[email protected]                                              Hugo R. Landsman
[email protected]                                      Jan Coekelberghs
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                             Lance K. Chun
[email protected]                                                   Mark Milem
[email protected]                                             David Neal Miller
[email protected]                                                Pete Bastien
[email protected]                                     Glen Patrick Ryan
[email protected]                                         Smarasderagd
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                           J. Stick
[email protected]                                  TJASKIEW.US.ORACLE.COM
[email protected]                             Todd C. Lawson
[email protected]                                           Bill Foote
[email protected]                                                   Tom Wakelyn

Abstained
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[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch


Votes in error
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   ! No name given
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   ! No name given
[email protected]                                              Ted Reuss
   ! Conflicting votes
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   ! No name given
 
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