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From [email protected] Tue Apr 18 22:40:19 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (B.G. Mahesh)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: RFD: comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
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Date: 18 Apr 1995 20:27:47 -0400
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                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
          unmoderated group comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse

     Group Name:  comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
         Status:  unmoderated
   Distribution:  world-wide
        Summary:  Newsgroup for using and augmenting the TeleUSE UI Builder.
    Proposed by:  B.G. Mahesh ([email protected])
		  The Dalmatian Group, Inc.

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of
creating an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse

CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse will be
used for announcements, questions and answers about the TeleUSE
GUI builder.  In operation, comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse will be similar
to comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx.

All traffic on comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
will be forwarded to the existing TeleUSE mailing list. Arrangements
will be made to forward all traffic on the TeleUSE mailing list
to comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse.

The official creation of comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse according to
agreed Usenet procedures will facilitate access to TeleUSE
information around the world.

This is NOT a call for votes. Barring a need for a second RFD, the
Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted approximately 21 to 30 days from
now. I intend to ask an independent third party to run the vote.

This RFD has been posted to news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
comp.windows.x and comp.windows.x.motif. Post any discussion
about this RFD to news.groups.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the 'Requirements for
Group Creation' in 'Guidelines for Usenet Group Creation.' Its format
is based on those of several earlier RFDs.

-- 
B.G. Mahesh                     | Email: [email protected]
System Analyst                  |        [email protected]
The Dalmatian Group Inc.        | Home page: http://www.fred.net/mahesh/
  User Interface Specialists    |

From [email protected] Tue Jun  6 02:34:56 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Jim Davis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: CFV: comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
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Date: 5 Jun 1995 20:41:17 -0400
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                      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
	  unmoderated group comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse

Newsgroups line:
comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse	use/augmenting the TeleUSE UI Builder.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 27 June 1995

This CFV will also be sent to the mailing list at [email protected]

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Jim Davis <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group contact B.G. Mahesh <[email protected]>.

CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
will be used for announcements, questions and answers about the
TeleUSE GUI builder.  In operation, comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
will be similar to comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx. All traffic on
comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse will be forwarded to the existing
TeleUSE mailing list.

RATIONALE (Submitted by the proposer)

TeleUSE is one of the popular Motif GUI builders and the number of
users are increasing. Users have expressed their desire to interact
with each other thru' this newsgroup. This newsgroup would allow users
to post their questions and answers.

HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.

Give your name on the line that asks for it. Place a YES or NO in the
brackets next to the group name to vote for or against it.  Don't
worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that
your reply inserts.

Then mail the ballot to:  [email protected]
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.


-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse Ballot    <CWUT-0001> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  You should receive an automatic acknowledgement of your vote
within three days.  If you do not, contact the votetaker about the
problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.
Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final
voting results list.

Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid
vote.

Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI
forms are considered anonymous votes.  (The vote must be mailed
directly from the voter to the votetaker.)

In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is
standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the
violator.

If you give anyone a copy of the CFV, it must be whole and unmodified.

When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV

The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet
newsgroups to which it is posted by the votetaker, including
news.announce.newgroups, and the mailing lists it is sent to by
the votetaker, and the votetaker.

From [email protected] Tue Jun 13 21:43:28 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Jim Davis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 13 Jun 1995 21:19:19 -0400
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                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
          unmoderated group comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse

Newsgroups line:
comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse        use/augmenting the TeleUSE UI Builder.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 27 June 1995

This CFV will also be sent to the mailing list at [email protected]

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Jim Davis <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group contact B.G. Mahesh <[email protected]>.

CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
will be used for announcements, questions and answers about the
TeleUSE GUI builder.  In operation, comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
will be similar to comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx. All traffic on
comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse will be forwarded to the existing
TeleUSE mailing list.

RATIONALE (Submitted by the proposer)

TeleUSE is one of the popular Motif GUI builders and the number of
users are increasing. Users have expressed their desire to interact
with each other thru' this newsgroup. This newsgroup would allow users
to post their questions and answers.

HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.

Give your name on the line that asks for it. Place a YES or NO in the
brackets next to the group name to vote for or against it.  Don't
worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that
your reply inserts.

Then mail the ballot to:  [email protected]
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.


-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse Ballot    <CWUT-0002> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-


IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  You should receive an automatic acknowledgement of your vote
within three days.  If you do not, contact the votetaker about the
problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.
Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final
voting results list.

Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid
vote.

Anonymous votes will not be accepted.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI
forms are considered anonymous votes.  (The vote must be mailed
directly from the voter to the votetaker.)

In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is
standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the
violator.

If you give anyone a copy of the CFV, it must be whole and unmodified.

When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV

The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet
newsgroups to which it is posted by the votetaker, including
news.announce.newgroups, and the mailing lists it is sent to by
the votetaker, and the votetaker.

From [email protected] Mon Jul 24 18:08:51 1995
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Jim Davis)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: RESULT: comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse passes 127:17
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 19 Jul 1995 18:51:55 -0400
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				RESULT
   unmoderated group comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse passes 127:17

Voting ended 23:59:59 GMT, 27 Jun 1995.  This vote was conducted by a
neutral third party.  For questions about voting procedures only
contact Jim Davis <[email protected]> (the votetaker).  For questions
about the newsgroup contact B.G. Mahesh <[email protected]> (the
proponent).

There were 144 valid votes.  The proposed newsgroup, in order to pass,
must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at least 100 more YES than NO
votes.  The results:

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 127   17 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
   1 abstaining vote  and 6 invalid votes

The proposal passed.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
If no serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are
raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the
newsgroup shortly thereafter.

NEWSGROUPS LINE

comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse	use/augmenting the TeleUSE UI Builder.

CHARTER

The proposed unmoderated newsgroup comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
will be used for announcements, questions and answers about the
TeleUSE GUI builder.  In operation, comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse
will be similar to comp.windows.ui-builders.uimx. All traffic on
comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse will be forwarded to the existing
TeleUSE mailing list.

FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                           Athanasios M. Demiris
[email protected]                                                  Hans-J. Brede
[email protected]                                                   Alex Wu
[email protected]                                       Anders Lindback
[email protected]                                  Mahmood A J Al-Sabbagh
[email protected]                                           Aravind Shenai
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                      Bengt Goransson
[email protected]                               Bill Lawremce
[email protected]                                        Bjorn Hjelle
[email protected]                     Ralph Bohnet ([email protected])
[email protected]                             Nils Ludvig Brandtzaeg
[email protected]                                          Bruce Hatakeyama
[email protected]                        Spiros Triantafyllopoulos
[email protected]                                             Cris Harmsen
[email protected]                                 Chuck Hawkins
[email protected]                                              Chyuan Huang
[email protected]                                    Catherine J Thompson
[email protected]                                         Chris Stamper
[email protected]                                                   Alan Commike
[email protected]                                         Bruno Cornec
[email protected]                                              Chris Tonas
[email protected]                                           Gary D. Black
[email protected]                                      Karen L Schuchardt
[email protected]                                             Dallas E. Sinnett
[email protected]                                               Darek Iwanski
[email protected]                                       David Quin-Conroy
[email protected]                                            Don Traub
[email protected]                                 Duane Bronson
[email protected]                                           Dick Heidlund
[email protected]                                         Magnus Brunzell
[email protected]                                       Magnus Jaerlbrink
[email protected]                                              Stig Agnar
[email protected]                                        Stefan Lindesvik
[email protected]                                         Eric Wang
[email protected]                                                    Erik Boralv
[email protected]                                         Dan Fitzgerald
[email protected]                                                  Gary A Feldman
[email protected]                                                    Gary Morris
[email protected]                                                 Gary A. Thompson
[email protected]                                                Gerrit Brouwer
[email protected]                                                Guy E Leonard
[email protected]                                     Glenn Mandelkern
[email protected]                                                        Hans Bos
[email protected]
[email protected]                                       Henry Yang
[email protected]                                         Ingeborg Carlsson
[email protected]          James Shanahan, Iridium, Motorola
[email protected]                                    Jan Nyegaarden
[email protected]                           Jason Pritchard
[email protected]                                      John Lappetito
[email protected]                                                   John M. Love
[email protected]                                            Jo Pelkey
[email protected]                                           Johan Ansink
[email protected]                                         John W Wynn
[email protected]                                                   Trevor Tymchuk
[email protected]                                             j.t. holmes, jr
[email protected]                                              Julie Donnell
[email protected]                                        Klaus Kaiser
[email protected]                                                     Kathy Seay
kenpa@big.fishnet.net                                            Ken Patterson
kevin@alsys.com                                          Kevin Mcguire @ignite
kirani@advtech.uswest.com                                       Shekhar Kirani
klee@qualcomm.com                                                 Kevin D. Lee
koneti@vega.data.st.statoil.no                        Eirik Time, Cap Computas
KORTEN@ATNTR.telemax.no                                   Tor Christian Korten
kristine_maneely@MENTORG.COM                                  Kristine Maneely
ks@bbt.com                                                        Kamlesh Shah
ksvensso@sw.seisy.abb.se                                        Kjell Svensson
lars@uidesign.se                                                  Lars Jonsson
lch@cci.dk                                                     Lars C. Hassing
leigh@alsys.com                            Leigh Scurlock (leigh@thomsoft.com)
lieth@sw-systemekarlhickl.de                        Hans-Joachim von der Lieth
lippinco@kiwi.msfc.nasa.gov                                    Jeff Lippincott
Lisa_Johnson-P26480@email.mot.com                                 Lisa Johnson
list-votes@dream.hb.north.de                                 Martin Schr\"oder
liz@fws.com                                            Elizabeth Wilding-White
lukner@che.utexas.edu                                           Ralf B. Lukner
LVERNEC@MSMAIL.alsys.com                                          Larry Vernec
lyoung@dalmatian.com                                            Larry C. Young
mahesh@dalmatian.com                                               B.G. Mahesh
marshall@pat.mdc.com                                              Jay Marshall
maryam@alsys.com                                                 Maryam Anvari
Mary_Kramer-P26902@email.mot.com                                Mary V. Kramer
max@mercury.co.il                                            Maxim Kholmyansky
mayalama@ss20-1.cis.uab.edu                          Mallikharjun Yalamanchili
mbonnice@pelab.allied.com                                   Michael A. Bonnice
mganley@mda.ca                                                 Michelle Ganley
mikael@mailhost.uidesign.se                                     Mikael Nasberg
mike@api.svl.trw.com                                          Michael J. Downs
mike@moon.cpqd.br                                       Nilton de Oliveira Jr.
Mike_Fisher-P26660@email.mot.com                                Michael Fisher
ml_wilkins@ccmail.pnl.gov                                       Mark L Wilkins
nhic@fa.disney.com                                                   Nhi Casey
Ole.Kvarno@ffi.no                                                   Ole Kvarno
OT/A=MOT/C=US/@email.mot.com                                         Ray Singh
Per.Dyrstad@nodeca.mil.no                                          Per Dyrstad
peter@xelion.nl                                           Peter van der Wekken
ponthier_mark@jpmorgan.com                                  Mark John Ponthier
radsoft@indirect.com                                              John Goodsen
Rajat.Singh@Eng.Sun.COM                                            Rajat Singh
reiche@sofkin.ca                                                Michael Reiche
rhoda@alsys.com                                                    Rhoda Quate
Rick.Touchette@seag.fingerhut.com                               Rick Touchette
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                                Richard Miller
rmd@alsys.com                               Robert M. Dunne (rmd@thomsoft.com)
rnilsson@sw.seisy.abb.se                                         Ralph Nilsson
sbeldona@cisco.com                                             Srinath Beldona
serge@xelion.nl                                                  Serge Barthel
sparre@fys.ku.dk                                         Jacob Sparre Andersen
stefan@stefan.hb.north.de                                     Stefan Westmeier
steven@xelion.nl                                                 Steven Happee
sue_ward@MENTORG.COM                                                Susan Ward
Svein.Heltberg@nodeca.mil.no                                    Svein Heltberg
tgiaccon@dalmatian.com                                           Tony Giaccone
THAAG@MSMAIL.alsys.com                                                Tom Haag
tk@cair.ernet.in                                      Thanalapati K. Thyagaraj
tkn@approve.se                                               Torbjorn Karlsson
tompalka@centerline.com                                              tom palka
TORILL.KRISTIANSEN@ATNTR.telemax.no                         Torill Kristiansen
trevor@alsys.com                                                Trevor Bourget
trg@world.std.com                                                  Tom Grosman
uwe@bredex.de                                                    Uwe Faustmann
vaidyana@redmont1.cis.uab.edu                         Viswanathan Vaidyanathan
vanand@cisco.com                                                   Vinay Anand
Will_Mitchell-SC437C@email.mot.com                               Will Mitchell
x94patho@ida.liu.se                                        Patrik Hoiem-Flyckt

Voted No
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ananda@cs.utexas.edu                                             Ananda M. Kar
csaamw@urc.tue.nl                                               Michiel Wijers
cward@Think.COM                                               Christopher Ward
Dalton@courier10.aero.org                                        N. Don Dalton
egarbos@sanders.com                                                Eric Garbos
gordon@yuki                                                       Gordon Engel
jcohen@DRI.cornell.edu                                     Jeffrey David Cohen
Joel.Brogniart@mrash.fr                                         Joel Brogniart
lantzr@physio-control.com                                        Lantz Rowland
marc@ALGORITHMICS.COM                                           Marc Moorcroft
mb@agar.oche.de                                                 Marcus Breiing
nick@inferno.fc.hp.com                                          Nick Ingegneri
rew@CrystalData.COM                                               Ryan Waldron
roberto@keltia.freenix.fr                                      Ollivier Robert
stainles@bga.com                                                  Dwight Brown
twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu                                        Tim Pierce
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi                                         Risto Widenius

Abstained
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mmt@RedBrick.COM                                                 M Mike Taksar


Votes in error
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bkaplan@dalmatian.com                                             Barry Kaplan
   ! No vote statement in message
mmartin@aquinas.dalmatian.com                                   Michael Martin
   ! No vote statement in message
mqualls@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov                             Michelle Qualls Shell
   ! No vote statement in message
simha@tekelec.com                                                   Ajay Simha
   ! No ballot
Srinivas_Krishnaswamy@TechSol.COM                        Srinivas Krishnaswamy
   ! No vote statement in message
Steve.Mays@seag.fingerhut.com                                      Steven Mays
   ! No vote statement in message

VOTING ANALYSIS

comp.windows.ui-builders.teleuse passed on Sat Jun 24 06:50:38 1995,
Mountain Standard Time.

This vote was handled by a neutral third-party votetaker from the
Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV).  See http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv/
for more info.
 
USENET FACT: Kill File
A set of filters setup to determine which user's posts will be read/downloaded or ignored.