From [email protected] Fri Nov 6 10:18:21 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1758 news.groups:37642 comp.sys.mac.apps:13773 comp.sys.mac.misc:22477 comp.databases:13324 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.databases Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Hades) Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.mac.databases passes 167: 23 Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Date: 21 Jan 92 15:17:48 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 225 The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.databases passes with 167 Yes votes and 23 No votes. The charter is included below for the group along with the final ACK of Yes votes and No votes. ***************** Group: Comp.sys.mac.databases Status: Unmoderated Charter: The purpose of this group is to provide a forum for the discusson of database systems that are produced for the Macintosh line of computers. Currently these questions are posted almost exclusively to comp.sys.mac.apps but in actuality database systems are not truly applications they are development environments similar in scope to Hypercard which has its own group. This group is for all database systems for the Mac, from the simplest flat-file manager to the most complex relational/multi-user system. ***************** NO VOTES "Kenton A. Hoover"Arne Henrik Juul Bob Funchess Dan Fain Edward John Sabol Harald Nordgard-Hansen John G Dobnick [email protected] canrem!krzysztof.adamski (Krzysztof Adamski) [email protected] (Carl Rigney) [email protected] (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) [email protected] [email protected] (Christopher Ward) [email protected] (Daryl Erwin) [email protected] (Ed Maldonado) [email protected] (Paul Eggert) [email protected] (Quincey Koziol) [email protected] (Memphis_TN) [email protected] (Sigurd Meldal) [email protected] (Jeff Anton) [email protected] (Alan Denney) [email protected] (William Moxley) [email protected] (Tim Kuehn) ***************** YES VOTES "Anand Rao, Dept. Animal & Food Science" "Bonnie J. Black" "Brian Excarnate" "JOHN,(714)896-1393,A95/17-4A48" "Jim Golden" "Lawrence Reed Miller" "Phil Shapiro" "RYAN SEAN P" "Robert (Bob) Ruf" "Tim Streater (415) 926-2743" "Virgil W. Smaltz" "Zach Kessin" "eric john weidl" "peter maitland bell" [email protected] [email protected] A. Lani Teshima Alan Coopersmith Allan Udy Andreas Magnusson Andrew Dent Bengt Larsson Bill Innanen Charles Sederholm Christopher Davis Christopher Landers Dana E. Keil Daniel Arkin EHPittman <6063382%[email protected]> Ellen Brewer Garance A Drosehn [email protected] (Geoffrey Maugham) Hans Peder Jepsen JAYMS%[email protected] Jaakko S Wallenius Jaakko Siuko Jack Slingerland [email protected] (Jeff Wasilko) Jim Gaynor Jo Lejeune John Fairbairn Juergen Schroth L L Campbell [email protected] Linda Cornell Linda Schlipper [email protected] Matthias Butt Maurice Weitman Michael Vogt Mika Thynell PACER%AM%[email protected] [email protected] Peter J Gergely Phaedrus Po Shan Cheah Povl Hessellund Pedersen R.S.LITTLE ROB DEWHIRST Ragnar Normann Robert Park [email protected] Sami Hero [email protected] (Shawn Connelly) Stu Galley Tom Dubinski Tron Zahir Parpia [email protected] (Michael Sapienza) [email protected] (Samuel Alcoff) [email protected] (Alexis Rosen) [email protected] (Peter Rauch) [email protected] (Happy Hacker ) [email protected] (Eric Aubourg) [email protected] (John Jamison) [email protected] [email protected] (David A. Kearney) [email protected] (Kirby) [email protected] (Frank Buntschuh) [email protected] (Curt Canada) [email protected] (charles allen) [email protected] (Andrew M. Cohill) [email protected] [email protected] (daniel quoidbach) [email protected] (Cy Shuster) [email protected] (Doug Tucker) [email protected] (David Rowe) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (David Claytor) [email protected] [email protected] (David Mittman) [email protected] (Dean R Gallant) [email protected] (Edward Reid) [email protected] (Clifford D. Morrison) [email protected] (N is for Neville who died of ennui) [email protected] (Eric W. Douglas) [email protected] (Fabio Vitali) [email protected] (Chris Janton) [email protected] (Craig Flowers) [email protected] (Florent Pillet) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (George B. Smith) [email protected] (Geoff Bronner) [email protected] (Georg Rehfeld) [email protected] (Dr Sheila Greibach) [email protected] (Eddy J. Gurney) [email protected] (H. Schipper) [email protected] (Carl W. Haynes III) [email protected] [email protected] (Mark Irwin) [email protected] (Steven List) [email protected] ( Jan Grav ) [email protected] (Larry Jewell) [email protected] (Jeff Pamplin) [email protected] (Jaime Lopez Hartmann) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Kurt Richards) [email protected] (Daniel Y. Louie) [email protected] (Bruce D. Magnuson) [email protected] (Marcus Jager) [email protected] (M.A. Weissman) [email protected] (Margaret Bullock) [email protected] (Matt Elliott) [email protected] (Michael L Barrow) [email protected] (Martha L. Wilson) [email protected] (Michael S. Muegel) [email protected] (Michael Ward) newave!john (John A. Weeks III) [email protected] (P. Hawthorne) [email protected] (Paul Raulerson) [email protected] [email protected] (Penelope A. Jones) [email protected] (Peter Dodd) [email protected] (Brooks Peters) [email protected] [email protected] (Ralph Brandi) [email protected] (Rick Brink) [email protected] (Mike Leavitt) [email protected] (devin n richards) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Paul Robichaux) [email protected] (Mr. Robin R. Reid) [email protected] (Russell S. Finn) [email protected] (WMU RESEARCH & SPONSORED PROGRAMS) [email protected] (ruman) [email protected] [email protected] (Steve Rogers) [email protected] (Craig Steele) [email protected] (Steve Lushing) [email protected] (David G Taylor) [email protected] (Dave Slotter) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Tom Locke) [email protected] (Nick B Triantos) [email protected] (Paul S. Sawyer) [email protected] (Jon R. Vermilye) [email protected] (Wayne Amisano) [email protected] (Bill Brown) [email protected] (homo obsolescensis) -- -Hades (Brian V. Hughes) | "So, Al, is she a moaner or a screamer?" [email protected] | "BUCK, you're talking about the Femthux I love!" Mac Database Developer | "Ok, is she a buzzer or a whistler?" Dartmouth Medical School | "Well, if you're going to get personal..." From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:14:21 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1589 news.groups:35688 comp.sys.mac.apps:11927 comp.sys.mac.misc:20547 comp.databases:12277 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.databases Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Hades) Subject: RFD: comp.sys.mac.databases Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Date: 25 Nov 91 16:32:16 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 46 Status: RO X-Status: This is the formal call for discussion for the group Comp.Sys.Mac.Databases. All follow up discussion will take place in news.groups, please make sure that your posts go only to that group, and that you keep comp.sys.mac.databases in the subject line to help those with kill files... ---------------- Group Name: comp.sys.mac.databases Group Status: Unmoderated Group Charter: For discussion of all database design software that is based on the Macintosh. The main participants being 4th Dimension, File Force, FileMaker Pro, Double Helix, and Omnis (5 and 7). It might also be possible for this group to act as a gateway for the 4th Dimension mailing list, but not act as a replacement. ---------------- Database design for the Mac, specifically those systems that are not based on SQL or DBase, and do not currently exist on other systems because they are designed for the Macintosh interface, has been looking for a place to live and breathe within the UseNet community. To this end, discussion can be found in comp.databases, comp.sys.mac.apps, and comp.sys.mac.misc, but these systems are usually quite different from those talked about in comp.databases, and they are not technically applications that would normally be discussed in c.s.m.apps. A database is a design environment, and is also a growing area in the Mac world. For these reasons we are proposing comp.sys.mac.databases. The discussion period will last at least 3 weeks from the time that this post arrives in news.announce.newgroups, and at that time if it is generally considerd that the discuddion period has concluded, then the official CFV will be posted. The current possibilites for vote takers are: Brian V. Hughes(me) - [email protected] David C. Spiegelman - [email protected] -- -Hades (Brian V. Hughes) | "Impossible odds, mentally unbalanced foes, Mac Database Administrator | cramped quarters for a good punch-up. And Cancer & Leukemia Group B | they say Iest has no night life!" - Cerebus Dartmouth Medical School | -Internet: [email protected] From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:15:39 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1671 news.groups:36418 comp.sys.mac.apps:12676 comp.sys.mac.misc:21315 comp.databases:12713 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.databases Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Hades) Subject: CFV: comp.sys.mac.databases Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Date: 17 Dec 91 13:48:09 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 40 Status: RO X-Status: This is the official Call for Votes for the news group comp.sys.mac.databases. Voting will contine through 23:59 January, 15th 1992. To vote please send a mail message to [email protected] (or just reply to this posting). If the the vote is a yes vote then please have "YES-VOTE" in the subject line. If the vote is a no vote then please have "NO-VOTE" in the subject line. This is to make my life a lot easier so that my mail program can properly process the votes. All I am asking for is that the subject lines follow this pattern. There will be a 2nd CFV and a mass Ack posted on December 27th, please don't expect individual acknowlegements of your votes as I do not have the time or the shell scripts to do so. PLEASE DO NOT POST YOUR VOTES TO THE NET. Any votes done in this manner will not be counted. Only the last vote of a voter will be counted. Group: Comp.sys.mac.databases Status: Unmoderated Charter: The purpose of this group is to provide a forum for the discusson of database systems that are produced for the Macintosh line of computers. Currently these questions are posted almost exclusively to comp.sys.mac.apps but in actuality database systems are not truly applications they are development environments similar in scope to Hypercard which has its own group. This group is for all database systems for the Mac, from the simplest flat-file manager to the most complex relational/multi-user system. -- -Hades (Brian V. Hughes) | "Impossible odds, mentally unbalanced foes, Mac Database Administrator | cramped quarters for a good punch-up. And Cancer & Leukemia Group B | they say Iest has no night life!" - Cerebus Dartmouth Medical School | -Internet: [email protected] From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:16:21 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1697 news.groups:36759 comp.sys.mac.apps:12974 comp.sys.mac.misc:21642 comp.databases:12927 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.databases Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Brian V. Hughes) Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.sys.mac.databases Followoup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Date: 31 Dec 91 23:05:23 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 186 Status: O X-Status: This is the 2nd CFV for the new group comp.sys.mac.databases; below is the charter from the original CFV along with instructions for mailing in a vote. Also contained below is the current ACK of votes already received. They are in alphabetical order and all duplicates have been removed. ------ This is the official Call for Votes for the news group comp.sys.mac.databases. Voting will contine through Midnight January, 15th 1992. To vote please send a mail message to [email protected] (or just reply to this posting). If the the vote is a yes vote then please have "YES-VOTE" in the subject line. If the vote is a no vote then please have "NO-VOTE" in the subject line. This is to make my life a lot easier so that my mail program can properly process the votes. All I am asking for is that the subject lines follow this pattern. There will be a 2nd CFV and a mass Ack posted on December 27th, please don't expect individual acknowlegements of your votes as I do not have the time or the shell scripts to do so. PLEASE DO NOT POST YOUR VOTES TO THE NET. Any votes done in this manner will not be counted. Only the last vote of a voter will be counted. Group: Comp.sys.mac.databases Status: Unmoderated Charter: The purpose of this group is to provide a forum for the discusson of database systems that are produced for the Macintosh line of computers. Currently these questions are posted almost exclusively to comp.sys.mac.apps but in actuality database systems are not truly applications they are development environments similar in scope to Hypercard which has its own group. This group is for all database systems for the Mac, from the simplest flat-file manager to the most complex relational/multi-user system. ---------- "Anand Rao, Dept. Animal & Food Science" "Bonnie J. Black" "Brian Excarnate" "JOHN, (714)896-1393,A95/17-4A48" "Jim Golden" "Lawrence Reed Miller" "Robert (Bob) Ruf" "Zach Kessin" "eric john weidl" [email protected] [email protected] A. Lani Teshima Alan Coopersmith Allan Udy Andreas Magnusson Andrew Dent Arne Henrik Juul Bengt Larsson Christopher Davis Daniel Arkin EHPittman <6063382%[email protected]> Ellen Brewer Garance A Drosehn [email protected] (Geoffrey Maugham) Hans Peder Jepsen Harald Nordgard-Hansen JAYMS%[email protected] Jaakko S Wallenius Jaakko Siuko [email protected] (Jeff Wasilko) Jim Gaynor John G Dobnick Juergen Schroth L L Campbell [email protected] Linda Schlipper [email protected] [email protected] Matthias Butt Michael Vogt [email protected] Peter J Gergely Phaedrus Po Shan Cheah Povl Hessellund Pedersen R.S.LITTLE ROB DEWHIRST Robert Park [email protected] Sami Hero [email protected] (Shawn Connelly) Tom Dubinski Tron Zahir Parpia [email protected] (Samuel Alcoff) [email protected] (Alexis Rosen) [email protected] (Peter Rauch) [email protected] (Happy Hacker ) [email protected] (Eric Aubourg) [email protected] (David A. Kearney) [email protected] (Kirby) [email protected] (Curt Canada) canrem!krzysztof.adamski (Krzysztof Adamski) [email protected] (charles allen) [email protected] (Carl Rigney) [email protected] (Andrew M. Cohill) [email protected] [email protected] (Christopher Ward) [email protected] [email protected] (daniel quoidbach) [email protected] (Cy Shuster) [email protected] (Daryl Erwin) [email protected] (Doug Tucker) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (David Claytor) [email protected] [email protected] (Ed Maldonado) [email protected] (Clifford D. Morrison) [email protected] (N is for Neville who died of ennui) [email protected] (Eric W. Douglas) [email protected] (Chris Janton) [email protected] (Craig Flowers) [email protected] (Florent Pillet) [email protected] [email protected] (George B. Smith) [email protected] (Geoff Bronner) [email protected] (Georg Rehfeld) [email protected] (Dr Sheila Greibach) [email protected] (H. Schipper) [email protected] (Carl W. Haynes III) [email protected] (Mark Irwin) [email protected] (Steven List) [email protected] (Larry Jewell) [email protected] (Jeff Pamplin) [email protected] (Jaime Lopez Hartmann) [email protected] [email protected] (Quincey Koziol) [email protected] (Kurt Richards) [email protected] (Daniel Y. Louie) [email protected] (Bruce D. Magnuson) [email protected] (Marcus Jager) [email protected] (M.A. Weissman) [email protected] (Matt Elliott) [email protected] (Memphis_TN) [email protected] (Michael L Barrow) [email protected] (Martha L. Wilson) [email protected] (Michael S. Muegel) [email protected] (Michael Ward) newave!john (John A. Weeks III) [email protected] (P. Hawthorne) [email protected] (Paul Raulerson) [email protected] (Penelope A. Jones) [email protected] (Peter Dodd) [email protected] (Brooks Peters) [email protected] [email protected] (Ralph Brandi) [email protected] (Rick Brink) [email protected] (devin n richards) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Paul Robichaux) [email protected] (Mr. Robin R. Reid) [email protected] (WMU RESEARCH & SPONSORED PROGRAMS) [email protected] [email protected] (Sigurd Meldal) [email protected] (Craig Steele) [email protected] (Steve Lushing) [email protected] (Jeff Anton) [email protected] [email protected] (Nick B Triantos) [email protected] (Alan Denney) [email protected] (Tim Kuehn) [email protected] (Wayne Amisano) [email protected] (Bill Brown) [email protected] (homo obsolescensis) -- -Hades (Brian V. Hughes) | "One less mouth to feed is one less mouth Mac Database Administrator | to feed." -- Pope Cerebus Cancer & Leukemia Group B | Dartmouth Medical School | -Internet: [email protected] From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:43:18 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1758 news.groups:37642 comp.sys.mac.apps:13773 comp.sys.mac.misc:22477 comp.databases:13324 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.databases Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Hades) Subject: RESULT: comp.sys.mac.databases passes 167: 23 Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Date: 21 Jan 92 15:17:48 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 225 Status: RO X-Status: The newsgroup comp.sys.mac.databases passes with 167 Yes votes and 23 No votes. The charter is included below for the group along with the final ACK of Yes votes and No votes. ***************** Group: Comp.sys.mac.databases Status: Unmoderated Charter: The purpose of this group is to provide a forum for the discusson of database systems that are produced for the Macintosh line of computers. Currently these questions are posted almost exclusively to comp.sys.mac.apps but in actuality database systems are not truly applications they are development environments similar in scope to Hypercard which has its own group. This group is for all database systems for the Mac, from the simplest flat-file manager to the most complex relational/multi-user system. ***************** NO VOTES "Kenton A. Hoover" Arne Henrik Juul Bob Funchess Dan Fain Edward John Sabol Harald Nordgard-Hansen John G Dobnick [email protected] canrem!krzysztof.adamski (Krzysztof Adamski) [email protected] (Carl Rigney) [email protected] (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) [email protected] [email protected] (Christopher Ward) [email protected] (Daryl Erwin) [email protected] (Ed Maldonado) [email protected] (Paul Eggert) [email protected] (Quincey Koziol) [email protected] (Memphis_TN) [email protected] (Sigurd Meldal) [email protected] (Jeff Anton) [email protected] (Alan Denney) [email protected] (William Moxley) [email protected] (Tim Kuehn) ***************** YES VOTES "Anand Rao, Dept. Animal & Food Science" "Bonnie J. Black" "Brian Excarnate" "JOHN,(714)896-1393,A95/17-4A48" "Jim Golden" "Lawrence Reed Miller" "Phil Shapiro" "RYAN SEAN P" "Robert (Bob) Ruf" "Tim Streater (415) 926-2743" "Virgil W. Smaltz" "Zach Kessin" "eric john weidl" "peter maitland bell" [email protected] [email protected] A. Lani Teshima Alan Coopersmith Allan Udy Andreas Magnusson Andrew Dent Bengt Larsson Bill Innanen Charles Sederholm Christopher Davis Christopher Landers Dana E. Keil Daniel Arkin EHPittman <6063382%[email protected]> Ellen Brewer Garance A Drosehn [email protected] (Geoffrey Maugham) Hans Peder Jepsen JAYMS%[email protected] Jaakko S Wallenius Jaakko Siuko Jack Slingerland [email protected] (Jeff Wasilko) Jim Gaynor Jo Lejeune John Fairbairn Juergen Schroth L L Campbell [email protected] Linda Cornell Linda Schlipper [email protected] Matthias Butt Maurice Weitman Michael Vogt Mika Thynell PACER%AM%[email protected] [email protected] Peter J Gergely Phaedrus Po Shan Cheah Povl Hessellund Pedersen R.S.LITTLE ROB DEWHIRST Ragnar Normann Robert Park [email protected] Sami Hero [email protected] (Shawn Connelly) Stu Galley Tom Dubinski Tron Zahir Parpia [email protected] (Michael Sapienza) [email protected] (Samuel Alcoff) [email protected] (Alexis Rosen) [email protected] (Peter Rauch) [email protected] (Happy Hacker ) [email protected] (Eric Aubourg) [email protected] (John Jamison) [email protected] [email protected] (David A. Kearney) [email protected] (Kirby) [email protected] (Frank Buntschuh) [email protected] (Curt Canada) [email protected] (charles allen) [email protected] (Andrew M. Cohill) [email protected] [email protected] (daniel quoidbach) [email protected] (Cy Shuster) [email protected] (Doug Tucker) [email protected] (David Rowe) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (David Claytor) [email protected] [email protected] (David Mittman) [email protected] (Dean R Gallant) [email protected] (Edward Reid) [email protected] (Clifford D. Morrison) [email protected] (N is for Neville who died of ennui) [email protected] (Eric W. Douglas) [email protected] (Fabio Vitali) [email protected] (Chris Janton) [email protected] (Craig Flowers) [email protected] (Florent Pillet) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (George B. Smith) [email protected] (Geoff Bronner) [email protected] (Georg Rehfeld) [email protected] (Dr Sheila Greibach) [email protected] (Eddy J. Gurney) [email protected] (H. Schipper) [email protected] (Carl W. Haynes III) [email protected] [email protected] (Mark Irwin) [email protected] (Steven List) [email protected] ( Jan Grav ) [email protected] (Larry Jewell) [email protected] (Jeff Pamplin) [email protected] (Jaime Lopez Hartmann) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Kurt Richards) [email protected] (Daniel Y. Louie) [email protected] (Bruce D. Magnuson) [email protected] (Marcus Jager) [email protected] (M.A. Weissman) [email protected] (Margaret Bullock) [email protected] (Matt Elliott) [email protected] (Michael L Barrow) [email protected] (Martha L. Wilson) [email protected] (Michael S. Muegel) [email protected] (Michael Ward) newave!john (John A. Weeks III) [email protected] (P. Hawthorne) [email protected] (Paul Raulerson) [email protected] [email protected] (Penelope A. Jones) [email protected] (Peter Dodd) [email protected] (Brooks Peters) [email protected] [email protected] (Ralph Brandi) [email protected] (Rick Brink) [email protected] (Mike Leavitt) [email protected] (devin n richards) [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Paul Robichaux) [email protected] (Mr. Robin R. Reid) [email protected] (Russell S. Finn) [email protected] (WMU RESEARCH & SPONSORED PROGRAMS) [email protected] (ruman) [email protected] [email protected] (Steve Rogers) [email protected] (Craig Steele) [email protected] (Steve Lushing) [email protected] (David G Taylor) [email protected] (Dave Slotter) [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Tom Locke) [email protected] (Nick B Triantos) [email protected] (Paul S. Sawyer) [email protected] (Jon R. Vermilye) [email protected] (Wayne Amisano) [email protected] (Bill Brown) [email protected] (homo obsolescensis) -- -Hades (Brian V. Hughes) | "So, Al, is she a moaner or a screamer?" [email protected] | "BUCK, you're talking about the Femthux I love!" Mac Database Developer | "Ok, is she a buzzer or a whistler?" Dartmouth Medical School | "Well, if you're going to get personal..."