From [email protected] Mon Sep 27 12:37:36 1993 Flags: 000000000211 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 90 12:51:00 -0500 From: [email protected] (S. R. Harnad) To: [email protected] Subject: For Elliot Lear Keywords: posted Elliot, I hope the forwarded mail from Greg Woods indicated that I have to revise my posting to news.announce.newsgroups. The header should have been: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: sci.psycoloquy.moderated and the text should have been: ----- Proposal to create a moderated newsgroup called: sci.psycoloquy.moderated An International, Interdisciplinary Forum for Scholarly Communication Please send votes to this poster, not the net. --- I have just taken over the editorship of the Bitnet Psychology Newsletter (earlier called "Psychnet") and would now like to establish it also as a moderated newsgroup on Usenet. Below is my first editorial about plans for the group. The only thing that I would add is that the group is, and will remain, a strictly noncommercial forum for information exchange among psychologists (and scholars and scientists >From related disciplines). Distributing it regularly to sites through Usenet seems a more efficient use of the airwaves than an email list, given that there are about 25,000 academic psychologists in the US, probably near that number in the rest of the world, and countless students and other interested disciplines. I will be moderating the scientific discussion; co-moderating the group with me will be Perry London, Dean of the Graduate School of Applied and Professional Psychology at Rutgers University, with the assistance of Cary Cheriniss, Associate Professor in that School. They will be handling postings related to clinical psychology. The American Psychological Association has also agreed to sponsor the list on an experimental basis for eight months. This will pay a graduate student for doing weekly updates on the bitnet listerver, where we hope to build up the email addresses of all psychologists worldwide. Below is a revised copy of the first editorial, which gives further information about the list. ----- To Bitnet Newsletter (PSYCOLOQUY) Recipients (~1300 individuals and redistribution sites): This is just to let you know that this list is about to come under new editorship. We all owe many thanks to Bob Morecock for having founded the Bitnet Psychology Newsletter (originally "Psychnet," soon to undergo yet another name change to PSYCOLOQUY). He has performed a valuable service to the field of psychology in getting the list started and sustaining it through its first few years in an era in which this medium will become inceasingly important in scholarly communication. There are some rather ambitious plans under consideration for this list. Academic email networks can be much more than bulletin boards for meetings, abstracts and notices, as most of them are. They are a potentially revolutionary medium for disseminating and discussing new findings and ideas -- "Scholarly Skywriting." The global scope and lightening pace of intellectual exchanges in this medium are uncannily well suited to the thought processes of the creative mind -- or so I believe, at any rate, and this hypothesis will soon be put to the test. Along with the notices that will continue to appear, and that you are encouraged to continue to submit, there will be demo's of skywriting. At first they will be circulated to the list as a whole. Then they will only be archived; to continue receiving them you will either have to request the volumes from listserv or to sign up for special sublists devoted to the topic under discussion. Occasional summaries or samples will be sent to the list as a whole from topics whose discussions endure. [This procedure may be modified for the Usenet group.] Anyone can contribute to the scholarly discussion, but the submissions will be moderated by [Perry London and] me, and we will have to exercise selectivity where necessary, for reasons of length, relevance, quality or tone (skywriting discussions must be polite and dispassionate). In addition, I am actively looking for a list co-editor to handle contributions bearing on clinical practice and professional matters in psychology. Someone is under consideration now, but don't hesitate to send nominations. The individual should be a professional psychologist with some stature in the field, preferably with editorial or administrative experience. (Note that this is not a paid position, but a service we are contributing in order to develop this new medium.) [Perry London of GSAP has since agreed to do it, with Cary Cheriniss, but we are still looking for subeditors for the many subspecialties of psychology and allied fields: perception, cognition, personality/social psychology, development, operant/classical learning, comparative, physiological, etc.] Two more matters for now: (1) The bitnet list's subscibership is currently about 1300, which is not small for an email list but microscopic in relation to the size of the world psychological community. I encourage all subscribers to recruit new subscribers to the list (feel free to capture and circulate this text to others by email). The procedure for adding one's name automatically to the list is to send mail to [email protected] (or @finhutc) with SUB PSYCH Firstname Lastname on the first text line. To unsubscribe: UNSUB PSYCH (name not required) (2) Negotiations are currently underway with some psychological organizations for some support for maintaining the list. The services of the editors will continue to be voluntary, but some hired help will be needed for adding and updating the address file and bundling and posting accepted material. [APA has since agreed to sponsor PSYCOLOQUY on a trial basis.] Your reactions and suggestions are welcome. Looking forward to a rewarding collaboration, Stevan Harnad Department of Psychology Princeton University Princeton NJ 08544 From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:01:07 1992 Flags: 000000000211 To: [email protected] Path: phoenix!harnad From: [email protected] (Stevan Harnad) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: sci.psychology.moderated: CALL FOR VOTES Keywords: Bitnet_Group_-------->_Usenet, posted Date: 7 Feb 90 03:48:08 GMT Organization: Princeton University, NJ Lines: 111 CALL FOR VOTES for the creation of a moderated Usenet group out of the already existing Bitnet Psychology Newsletter, PSYCOLOQY, which currently has 1400 Bitnet subscribers. The objective is to make this group more widely available to the world psychology community through Usenet. VOTING PERIOD: February 7 - March 9. Please send a YES or NO vote, **worded as described below,** to [email protected], *not* to the moderator of new.announce.newgroups. The "r" option in rn is one way to get your vote to the right destination. The group will be co-moderated by Stevan Harnad, Department of Psychology, Princeton University and Perry London, Dean of the Graduate School of Applied and Professional Psychology, Rutgers University, assisted by Cary Cherniss and an editorial board for all the subspecialties of psychology, including perception, cognition, development, psycholinguistics, physiological psychology, behavioral analysis, social psychology, personality, clinical psychology and applied psychology. Contents will include both the usual bboard materials (meetings, tech report abstracts, notices, journal contents) and moderated discussions of current topics in all areas of psychology. The latter kind of contribution will be especially encouraged and all discussion will be kept at an informed scholarly level, to demonstrate the enormous (and as yet unexplored) intellectual potential of such an electronic forum. The group will be sponsored on an experimental basis by the Science Directorate of the American Psychological Association and an effort will be made to ensure that all psychologists and representatives of related fields have access and the opportunity to participate actively. Because there is already an UNmoderated Usenet psychology group (sci.psychology) and because the Bitnet group's name (PSYCOLOQUY) does not match well with the Usenet nomenclature, the group can be called either: sci.psychology.moderated or sci.psychology.org or sci.psychology.digest or scu.psychology.psycoloquy If any of these four names would be ok with you, just vote: I vote YES for sci.psychology... (MODERATED) If your vote is conditional on one of these names, please specify which, e.g.: I vote YES for sci.psychology.digest etc. If your vote is negative, all options are voted against with: I vote NO against sci.psychology... (MODERATED) Please keep your message simple and unambiguous. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Three relevant excerpts from the discussion follow: ----- From: Todd OgasawaraOrganization: University of Hawaii [Founder of sci.psychology (UNmoderated] Having watched the USENET sci.psychology degenerate since I created the group, I will be more than happy to vote for a sci.psychology.moderated to sit next to it when you request votes...todd ------- From: peter%[email protected] (Peter da Silva) Welcome (eventually) to the net. I think that you will find the ".moderated" suffix redundant, and the "psycoloquy" part is likely to cause confusion. I would like to offer a suggestion: sci.org.psycoloquy As a .org group, it will be immediately obvious that the name is a proper noun: the name of an organisation. There will be no confusion with any nascent "sci.psychology" group, and people will be less likely to typo the name. ----- >From: [email protected] (Mark M Mehl) If the name "psycoloquy" is so appealing to everyone, simply call it sci.psychology.psycoloquy so news-reader programs simply have to look for sci.psychology.* to get both groups. If the proposed group is to be a newsletter (as the charter suggests), then a group name such as sci.psychology.digest would be most descriptive of its contents. In order for any Usenet group to attract the targeted audience it wants, the name "must" be thoughtfully selected. The suffix *.digest in Usenet generally suggests a moderated group (although it doesn't have to be) that posts a brief newsletter. If one want to call it sci.psychology.mag, that might be a second best choice. --------------------------------------------------------- -- Stevan Harnad Department of Psychology Princeton University [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (609)-921-7771 From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:25:20 1992 Flags: 000000000201 From: [email protected] (S. R. Harnad) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: RESULTS OF VOTE: sci.psychology.digest Keywords: moderated_psychology_digest_PSYCOLOQUY, posted Date: 8 Mar 90 06:10:12 GMT Organization: Princeton University, NJ Followup-to: news.announce.newgroups sci.psychology.digest has been successfully voted in as a moderated Usenet psychology group. Here is the summary of the voting for the formation of a moderated psychology group: Summary of votes: Total = 202 votes Total YES: 186 votes Total NO: 16 votes Six alternatives were offered (1) YES for sci.psychology.digest (2) YES for sci.psychology.moderated (3) YES for sci.psychology.org (4) YES for sci.psychology.psycoloquy (5) YES for any of the 4 above (6) NO Breakdown: YES (any of 4): 129 votes YES (sci.psychology.digest): 29 votes = 158 votes YES: (sci.psychology.moderated) 13 votes YES: (sci.psychology.org) 8 votes YES: (sci.psychology.psycoloquy) 7 votes NO: 16 votes = 44 votes ---------------------------------------------------------------- YES (any of 4): 129 votes Lew Lipsitt IC4633+00%BROWNVM.BITNET Lee Lady [email protected] Nick Flor flor%[email protected] Theon Verdeny [email protected] Gary McClelland GMCCLELLA%[email protected] Michael Wheeler [email protected] Ron Wright [email protected] J. Philip Miller [email protected] Steve Kaminski [email protected] Norman Gall [email protected] Chris Hertzog [email protected] Dennis Rasmussen [email protected] John Broida [email protected] J.Toby Mordkoff MORDKOFF@JHUVM Clark Quinn [email protected] Jeroen Raaymakers [email protected] Gilbert Harman ghh@clarity Ross Buck [email protected] Sean Philip Engelson [email protected] [email protected] William P. Gardner [email protected] doug davis [email protected] charles butter [email protected] Mike [email protected] "PSYVAX::aake"@biovax.umdc.umu.se Lewis R. Gollub [email protected] Colin Potts potts%[email protected] Kevin McCabe [email protected] Larry Pugh [email protected] Bengt Jansson [email protected] [email protected] Curt burgess [email protected] Jonathan Roberts [email protected] [email protected] Steve P. Reidbord [email protected] Paul O'Rorke [email protected] Steve Hirtle [email protected] Jiajie Zhang zhang%[email protected] Andreas Stolcke stolcke%[email protected] John Rieman [email protected] Mike Koszykowski mikek%[email protected] Julie Brannan [email protected] Don Wunsch [email protected] Linda Roise [email protected] Christiane Fellbaum [email protected] Krishna [email protected] Colleen a. Redding [email protected] Ken Whang [email protected] Geoff Crooks [email protected] Deborah Clawson [email protected] Robert Garmong [email protected] Colin g. Eagle [email protected] Jyrki Jouko Juhani Kasvi [email protected] Patrick Lynn [email protected] Mitchell Marks [email protected] vicki fromkin [email protected] Charles Neuringer [email protected] Pablo R Alvarez [email protected] Timothy J. Horton [email protected] D N ROBINSON [email protected] Jonathan Baron [email protected] Kurt Lidl [email protected] Arshad Mahmood arshad%[email protected] Mickey Rowe [email protected] Doug Elrod [email protected] Ted K. Taylor [email protected] [email protected] Ken Steele [email protected] Clarke G clarg%[email protected] Celso Alvarez [email protected] Ray Shaw [email protected] Martin Taylor [email protected] Aaron Ben-Zeev [email protected] Thomas E. Rothenfluh [email protected] Brian Clark [email protected] AL ROWE rowe@raybed2 Eliot Smith [email protected] Paul Hudson [email protected] POPCORN KING [email protected] Jurgen Koenemann [email protected] [email protected] (Jurgen Koenemann) Stephen N. Spencer [email protected] Richard Cook [email protected] Dave Butterfield [email protected] Charles Collyer [email protected] Harry E Blanchard [email protected] Craig E. Ward [email protected] Lyle A. Brenner [email protected] margo malakoff [email protected] Brian Ehrmantraut [email protected] MBANAJI@YALEVM [email protected] James P Skelly skellyjp@phoenix Hank Roberts [email protected] Chris Jack [email protected] Joe Keane gatech!ames!osc.osc.COM!jgk David Buss [email protected] Su James [email protected] karen valentino [email protected] of Dreams and Shadows [email protected] P30RJK1%[email protected] Robin Clark [email protected] [email protected] Tim Topper [email protected] Jon Taylor [email protected] Gregory B. Newby [email protected] Alan Munn [email protected] att!mtfmi!avr Ted Sarbin gatech!ames!claris!netcom!ted Nicola Yuill nicolay%[email protected] D.J. Stehouwer [email protected] James Kenneth Gobble [email protected] Charles White [email protected] JRACK%[email protected] Evan Heit [email protected] Clifford Adams [email protected] Alan Baron [email protected] Mike Cluff [email protected] Jeffrey Hsu [email protected] John Towse towse%[email protected] Carl S. Gutekunst [email protected] Fen Labalme [email protected] Lisa M. Warmerdam [email protected] [email protected] Cal Hylton TFNAABK%[email protected] Brent Curtis [email protected] Monica Paolini [email protected] Max Coltheart munnari!mqccsunb.mqcc.mq.oz.au!mcolthea%uunet.UU.NET@pucc Werner H. Tack [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------- YES (.digest): 29 votes Eliot Lear [email protected] Mark M Mehl [email protected] J. A. Durieux [email protected] Sanjiv K. Bhatia [email protected] Charles Balan [email protected] Dan Schlitt [email protected] Don Norman [email protected] Eugene H Eisman [email protected] Andrew Patrick andrew%[email protected] Rick Pollak [email protected] Rodential Existence MABELSON%WILLIAMS Peter Marvit [email protected] Ed [email protected] Walt Thode [email protected] John C. Fowler pa1027%[email protected] Tim Maroney [email protected] Stuart L. Labovitz [email protected] Dr Trevor Hales [email protected] Hua Liu liu%[email protected] Chris Colbourn [email protected] Barry S. Hirschberg [email protected] Howard Gayle [email protected] Greg Paris [email protected] Monica Cellio [email protected] David S. Stodolsky [email protected] Greg Paris [email protected] Jane Edwards [email protected] Michael M. Cohen [email protected] David Chalmers [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------- YES: (.moderated) 13 Robbin Hough [email protected] B. S. Oplinger [email protected] avis cohen AHC@CORNELLA Eric G. Freedman [email protected] Alan Sanders [email protected] Clifford Johnson [email protected] rik warren [email protected] Bob Stubblefield [email protected] UMBC::SHIMOFF shimoff%[email protected] Gil Pilz [email protected] Jonathan Dwyer [email protected] Fred Helmstetter [email protected] [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------- YES: (.org) 8 Marc Branch [email protected] george berg [email protected] Romy Spitz ps299bd%[email protected] Jaime Nunez-cruz [email protected] Charles Garvin [email protected] David Dodell [email protected] Laraine McDonough ps299ax%[email protected] George Dunbar psrex%[email protected] ---------------------------------------------------------------- YES: (.psycoloquy) 7 Bill Maki