From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:15:19 1992
Flags: 000000000201
From: [email protected] (Michael D. Riston)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups
Subject: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: soc.culture.german
Keywords: german_soc.culture_group, posted
Date: 19 Feb 90 16:56:51 GMT
Organization: The Boeing Co., BCA FSL, Seattle, WA

[On news.announce.newgroups, there will be but one call for discussion
 for any newsgroup.-eliot]


                   Formal call for discussion
                   ==========================

 This is the 1st call for discussion for the creation of a German
 soc.culture newsgroup.
 The proposed newsgroup, unmoderated soc.culture.german, is intended
 to generally provide a medium for those interested to express and share
 their views and feelings about *things* (normally discussed in soc.culture
 newsgroups) related to Germany and Germans. 
 The discussion period will last for 2 weeks from today.  
 Comments and discussions are welcome provided they are also posted to 
 news.groups newsgroup.

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From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:20:37 1992
Flags: 000000000201
From: Bob Boulanger 
Newsgroups: news.groups,news.announce.newgroups,soc.misc,soc.culture.misc,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.british,soc.roots
Subject: CALL FOR VOTES -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN
Date: 27 Feb 90 22:48:26 GMT
Reply-To: Bob Boulanger 
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR
Followup-to: poster
Keywords: posted

===========================================================================
                       CALL FOR VOTES - SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN
===========================================================================



 This is the first formal "call for votes" for the creation of a world-wide,
 UNMODERATED soc.culture.german newsgroup on USENET.

 The discussion period for creation of soc.culture.german has already  
 ended and a lot of interest was observed during the discussion period.

  The proposed newsgroup is intended to generally provide a medium for those
 interested to express, share, and exchange their views, ideas, and feelings
 about Germany and Germanic culture.

 Possible discussion issues include aspects of Germany
   - culture, history, philosophy, ideology, geography;
   - societies, traditions, customs;
   - literature, poetry, art, folklore;
   - languages, books;
   - science, technology;
   - food, cookery;
   - local events, news, programs, economy;
   - communities abroad, problems, needs; and
   - *things* normally discussed in the "soc.culture" newsgroups.

Postings may be in either English or German, but posters should bear in
mind, regardless of which language they post, that some readers may not be
able to read/translate your postings.

 To Vote, send e-mail to:
   [email protected]
   OR simply reply to this message.

 Voting period will last from Feb 28th, until Midnight, March 20th, 1990.

 As per USENET newsgroup creation guidelines,
   - Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote (YES) for
     the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.Germany as proposed" or "I vote
     against (NO for) the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.germany as
     proposed". The wording doesn't have to be exact, it just needs to be
     unambiguous.
     In particular, statements of the form "I would vote for this group
     if..." are considered COMMENTS and will NOT be counted as votes.
   - Only votes that arrive DURING the voting period will be counted.
   - ONLY votes E-MAILED to the vote-taker will count.
   - Votes POSTED to the net for any reason (including inability to get
     mail to the vote-taker) and proxy votes (such as having a mailing
     list maintainer claim a vote for each member of the list) will NOT
     be counted.
   - At the end of the voting period, if 100 more YES/create votes are
     received than NO/don't create votes AND at least 2/3 of the total
     number of valid votes received are in favor of the creation, a
     newgroup control message will be sent out. If the 100 vote margin
     or 2/3 portion is not met, the newsgroup will not be created.

I will post a weekly voting reminder.


 Bob Boulanger
 Vote-taker


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From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:34:28 1992
Flags: 000000000201
From: Bob Boulanger 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups
Subject: FINAL CALL FOR VOTES -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN
Date: 15 Mar 90 16:16:22 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
Reply-To: Bob Boulanger 
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR
Keywords: posted



===========================================================================
                       CALL FOR VOTES - SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN
===========================================================================



 This is the  second formal "call for votes" for the creation of a world-wide,
 UNMODERATED soc.culture.german newsgroup on USENET.

 The discussion period for creation of soc.culture.german has already  
 ended and a lot of interest was observed during the discussion period.

  The proposed newsgroup is intended to generally provide a medium for those
 interested to express, share, and exchange their views, ideas, and feelings
 about Germany and Germanic culture.

 Possible discussion issues include aspects of German
   - culture, history, philosophy, ideology, geography;
   - societies, traditions, customs;
   - literature, poetry, art, folklore;
   - languages, books;
   - science, technology;
   - food, cookery;
   - local events, news, programs, economy;
   - communities abroad, problems, needs; and
   - *things* normally discussed in the "soc.culture" newsgroups.

Postings may be in either English or German, but posters should bear in
mind, regardless of which language they post, that some readers may not be
able to read/translate your postings.

 To Vote, send e-mail to:
   [email protected]
   OR simply reply to this message.

 Voting period will last from 1 March 1990 until Midnight, 21 March 1990.

 As per USENET newsgroup creation guidelines,
   - Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote (YES) for
     the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.german as proposed" or "I vote
     against (NO for) the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.german as
     proposed". The wording doesn't have to be exact, it just needs to be
     unambiguous.
     In particular, statements of the form "I would vote for this group
     if..." are considered COMMENTS and will NOT be counted as votes.
   - Only votes that arrive DURING the voting period will be counted.
   - ONLY votes E-MAILED to the vote-taker will count.
   - Votes POSTED to the net for any reason (including inability to get
     mail to the vote-taker) and proxy votes (such as having a mailing
     list maintainer claim a vote for each member of the list) will NOT
     be counted.
   - At the end of the voting period, if 100 more YES/create votes are
     received than NO/don't create votes AND at least 2/3 of the total
     number of valid votes received are in favor of the creation, a
     newgroup control message will be sent out. If the 100 vote margin
     or 2/3 portion is not met, the newsgroup will not be created.

I will post a weekly voting reminder.


 Bob Boulanger
 Vote-taker


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From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:37:34 1992
Flags: 000000000201
From: Bob Boulanger 
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups
Subject: FINAL RESULTS -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN PASSES
Date: 22 Mar 90 17:26:54 GMT
Reply-To: Bob Boulanger 
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR
Followup.to: news.groups
Keywords: posted



                     SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN  --  RESULT
                     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The voting for the creation of soc.culture.german (unmoderated) ended
at 00:00:00 PST March 22, 1990.  My sincere THANKS to all those who voted.
	     Charter is available from [email protected]
				   
		          Final vote tally
   		          ----------------
			 TOTAL Votes: 	231
			 YES Votes  : 	217	 (93.94%)
			 NO Votes   :  	 14	 ( 6.07%)
				   
     According to USENET guidelines, there must be at least 100 more YES
votes than NO votes and the YES votes must also comprise a 2/3 plurality of
all votes.  Based on these requirements and the preceding vote tally, 
soc.culture.german PASSES

     As stated in USENET guidelines, there will be a 5 days waiting period 
for the net to check the result. If everything checks out, soc.culture.german 
will be created at the end of this week.

     I'll send out a welcoming message to all who voted and how to access
soc.culture.german

               !!! Below is the list of votes, as required !!!





  ========================================================================
                                 YES VOTES
  ========================================================================

Tom Hartman                [email protected]
Michael Kustermann         prism.gatech.edu!iadt3mk
Bob Lackman                [email protected]
Bill Wolfe                 [email protected]
Kathleen Walbroehl         [email protected]
Roland F. McKenney         granite.cr.bull.com!mckenney
Mark A. Law                emunix.emich.edu!mal
Sing Z. S. Young           saturn.ucsc.edu!young
??                         red.cs.ubc.ca!wvong
John F. Haugh III          cs.utexas.edu!rpp386.Cactus.ORG!jfh

-- 10 --

Milton D. Miller           en.ecn.purdue.edu!milton
David Partain              [email protected]
Bruno Di Stefano           [email protected]
Dorai Sitaram              rice.edu!dorai
Bengt Larsson              [email protected]
Lars Fischer               [email protected]
Connie Hirsch              ATHENA.MIT.EDU!fuzzy
Ulrik Serges               [email protected]
Olivier Causse             llifia.imag.fr!causse
Du Nguyen                  [email protected]

-- 20 --

Timothy J. Lee             ernie.Berkeley.EDU!timlee
Paul Work                  cs.umr.edu!paulw
Miki HERMANN               [email protected]
Kurt Schroeder             [email protected]
Leonard Kleinow            [email protected]
Laurie Sefton              [email protected]
Werner Uhrig               rascal.ics.utexas.edu!werner
Peter Schorn               [email protected]
James Fosler               [email protected]
Lars Aronsson              [email protected]

-- 30 --

Mike Cooney                cooney@lakesys
Ed ?                       math.lsa.umich.edu!emv
Stanier A                  NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!alan%essex.ac.uk
J. Daniel Smith            [email protected]
Karl 'Dixie' Hultland      [email protected]
Wilmer Pereira             irisa.fr!Wilmer.Pereira
Jerry Kattke               att!ihlpl!kattke
Alan Walworth              csuchico.edu!ayw
Oliver Laumann             [email protected]
Malcolm L. Carlock         [email protected]

-- 40 --

Jeffrey A. Schavland       [email protected]
Bret Troly                 [email protected]
Magnus Rimvall             ra.crd.ge.com!rimvallm
Guido Kneib                hanauma.STANFORD.EDU!guido
Sami Jutila                stekt.oulu.fi!so-saj
Irek Defee                 [email protected]
John Carl Brown            homxb.att.com!jcb
Joe Johnson                jjohnson%[email protected]
Joe Camaratta              audi!jcc
Joubert Berger             {hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ccastjb

-- 50 --

Douglas Krause             [email protected]
Dick Schoeller             [email protected]
Tom Haapanen               [email protected]
Bob Janssens               [email protected]
John Darvish               [email protected]
Kurt J. Lidl               [email protected]
Harish P. Hiriyannaiah     [email protected]
John Wagner                PSUVM.PSU.EDU!JIW2
Dan Veditz                 ashtate.A-T.COM!dveditz
?                          [email protected]

-- 60 --

Thomas Krueger             [email protected]
Alex M. Lee                [email protected])
Mark D. Baushke            [email protected]
Bryan Bayerdorffer         cs.utexas.edu!bryanb
Eric Pepke                 SCRI1.SCRI.FSU.EDU!PEPKE (Eric Pepke)
Karen E. Isaacson          [email protected]
Poh-Ki Hui                 uhura.cc.rochester.edu!phui
??                         cs.vu.nl!gpvos
Charles W.T. Tang          eleazar.dartmouth.edu!tang
Craig E. Ward              [email protected]

-- 70 --

Charles Balan              [email protected]
Bryce Rumbles              [email protected]
Behzad Alavi               ...!pacbell!pbhyg!balavi
Don                        efsl@tahoma
Stephan Somogyi            [email protected]
John Grantham              [email protected]
David Scheid               danzan.EBay.Sun.COM!scheid
iJeremy Klahhane           [email protected]
Rich Haller                oregon.uoregon.edu!RHALLER
Raymond Rosch              [email protected]

-- 80 --

Jay Legenhausen            cs.wisc.edu!legenhau
CARL G. WOLFE              MUVMS3.BITNET!ESS015
Elaine Hacklaender         [email protected]
Susanne Hupfer             YALE.ARPA!hupfer-susanne
Greg Dykema                Sun.COM!phantast
Rodney Boyd                vrdxhq!uunet!sq.com!rodney
Ellen Keyne Seebacher      [email protected]
Bryan Siegfried            [email protected]
David Crane                violet.berkeley.edu!dcrane
Marshall Lake              irscscm!mlake

-- 90 --

Chris Davies               [email protected]
Dave Tygra                 sharkey.cc.umich.edu!tygra!dave
Gerd Hillebrand            [email protected]
Smith J D                  NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!smijd%essex.ac.uk
Dorota Szlenk              ecs.umass.edu!SZLENK
??                         [email protected]
William J. Watson          [email protected]
Fred R. Reenstjerna        [email protected],Marshall University
??                         tut.fi!nurmi
Brian O'Donoghue           [email protected]

-- 100 --

Roman Brenes               toaster.SFSU.EDU!roman
Robert Keller              [email protected]
Frederick M. Korz          [email protected]
Sonja Kattner              [email protected]
Jamie Saker                [email protected]
Ronald N. Voss             apple.com!vossron
Erich Hegenberger          ecs.umass.edu!HEGENBERGER
Roger Leroux               [email protected]
B.A. Badger                x102c.ess.harris.com!bbadger
Erik Ohrnberger            sharkey!edsews!edstip!ohrnb

-- 110 --

Mathias Luthi              [email protected]
John Weinhardt             cbnews.att.com!jgw
Stephen K Mulrine i        AC.UK!smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk
??                         gsbacd.uchicago.edu!gft_robert
??                         capmkt!bandy
Dave Taylor                mathcs.emory.edu!dt
Ted Swift                  {hplabs,lll-crg/lcc, pacbell}!well!tswift
Mark Boltz                 PSUVM.PSU.EDU!MRB118
Jim L. Beug                ogicse!decwrl!polyslo!jlbeug
Gilbert W. Pilz Jr.        [email protected]

-- 120 --

Bonnie R. Hiller           Hudson.Stanford.EDU!hiller
Wayne Angevine             [email protected]
Allan Wilson               gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca!wilsona
??                         RELAY.CS.NET!HAEHNLE%iravcl.ira.uka.de
Craig E. Ward              [email protected]
Paul J. Mech               oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU!deadpup!paul
Eamonn O'Brien             cbnewsk.att.com!eob
Merri L Naka               ICS.UCI.EDU!mnaka
Graeme Mullin NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!dmullin%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk
Sean Matthews              NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!sean%castle.edinburgh.ac.uk

-- 130 --

Timothy S. Newman          cpsvax.cps.msu.edu!newman
Michael Engel              CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!engel%BATATA.BITNET
Michael Engel              CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!engel%BATATA.BITNET
Erich ?                    niwot.scd.ucar.EDU!erich
Donna J. Rostetter         [email protected]
Lee F. Mellinger           [email protected]
David Scholten             frith.egr.msu.edu!scholten
Dr. Sanio                  athen.sp4n1.siemens.de
Andy Lang                  cdp!usagdr>
Armin Mikler               atanasoff.MYDOMAIN!mikler

-- 140 --

Wayne E. Sanders Jr.       [email protected]
Manfred J. Pfluegl         balboa.eng.uci.edu!pfluegl
aly farag                  [email protected]
Geraint Edwards            JANet:[email protected]
Vasant Honavar             [email protected]
Diane Bracken              hpindda.hp.com!hpda!bracken
Per Wahlund                tdb.sunet.se!per
Andreas Meyer              ameyer%[email protected]
Anthony Stome              nbc1.ge.com!stone
iggi ?                     ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu!V096NM93>

-- 150 --

Andrew Boardman            cs.columbia.edu!amb
Kenneth C. Moyle           [email protected] 
Sergio Gelato              [email protected]
Ed Bailey	               [email protected]
Henry Mensch               [email protected]
Menno Jonkers              cs.vu.nl!mvjonke
Anne Brink                 [email protected]
Martin Goldstern           math.berkeley.edu!goldstrn
KELLEY Rogers 29396        slmisc.mdcbbs.com!rogers
John Canino                [email protected]

-- 160 --

Karl Stupeeldorf           mthvax.CS.Miami.EDU!karl
Stefan Bressler            [email protected]
Martin Ottp                [email protected]
Raj Manandhar              uunet!harvard.harvard.edu!raj%cfa272
Joseph Nave                root.co.uk!jan
Janet L. Pflederer         [email protected]
Stefan Hauser              [email protected]
Corinne Braun              uunet!ux.acs.umn.edu!cbraun
Chris Overton              portia.stanford.edu!louiex2
??                         uunet!microsoft!stevesc
-- 170 --

Kent Hedlundh              [email protected]
Gary L. Dare               [email protected]
Heiko Hecht                [email protected]
Mark Routbort              [email protected]
??                         uunet!cie.uoregon.edu!twymer
D.MacGregor                [email protected]
Steve Oberste              fcrfv1.ncifcrf.gov!oberste
Bob Boulanger              [email protected]
raymond tam                [email protected]
Anja Petzold               gmdzi!anja

-- 180 --

Peter Mueller              mace.cc.purdue.edu!cs0
Christian Kaiser           [email protected]
Richard Wagener            nereid.sal.ists.ca!wagener
Pam Haukenfrers            [email protected]
Susan Kenzler              csd4.csd.uwm.edu!susan
Michael Fendt              fendt%[email protected]
Marylyn Westervelt         CU.NIH.GOV!QMW
Doug Scofield              [email protected]
Donna Reiner               [email protected]
James E P Saari            [email protected]

-- 190 --

Horst D. Cosgrove          mtgzy.att.com!hdc
Harald Fuchs               [email protected]
Karen Birkelbach           [email protected]
Ryszard Jan Nipl           mop.luth.se!Ryszard.Nipl
Bert                       ncsuvm.ncsu.edu!C0129%UNIVSCVM.BITNET
Bjoern Wallin              [email protected]
Dale Cook                  [email protected]
Pete Gayde                 iwtmx!gayde
Oliver Hellwig             skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov!hellwig
Arlene D. Hills            [email protected]


-- 200 --

Roseann R. Hogan, Ph. D.   [email protected]
John Chang                 turing.cs.rpi.edu!changj
?                          tan%mhuxo%[email protected]
Michael G Koopman          unix.cis.pitt.edu!mgkst1
J. David Naumann           vx.acs.umn.edu!NAUMANN
Snoopy                     cse.ogi.edu!sopwith!snoopy
Lorraine C. Williams       [email protected]
Robert N. Sparbel          [email protected]
Bernd Stramm               stramm%[email protected]
Sanjay Singh               [email protected]
Timo Ensio Pelkonen        taltta.hut.fi!s29863s

-- 210 --

Brian Donat                ogicse!decwrl!infmx!briand
Doug Hall                  CSDOUG@STMARYTX
Mike Weitz                 [email protected]
Michael E. Wildenauer      [email protected]
Ivan Herman                [email protected]
Christopher Tate           [email protected]
Betty Vachter              [email protected]
Alfred von Campe           milkwy.enet.dec.com!avoncampe

-- 217 --



  ========================================================================
                                 NO VOTES
  ========================================================================

Tim Oldham                 [email protected]
Jonathan R Barnett         wpi.wpi.edu!jbarnett
Chip Rosenthal             [email protected]
Pekka Riiali               [email protected]
Charleen Bunjiovianna      ads.com!charleen
Richard H. Miller          [email protected]
Arthur David Olson         [email protected]
Leonard B. Bliss           uncecs.edu!blissl
??                         uunet!quiche.cs.mcgill.ca!utility
C. Harald Koch             [email protected]

-- 10 --

Gregory G. Woodbury        [email protected]
??                         sun!portal!cup.portal.com!mmm
Christian Peper            [email protected]
Yaakov Kayman              CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!YZKCU

-- 14 --





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