From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:15:19 1992 Flags: 000000000201 From: [email protected] (Michael D. Riston) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: CALL FOR DISCUSSION: soc.culture.german Keywords: german_soc.culture_group, posted Date: 19 Feb 90 16:56:51 GMT Organization: The Boeing Co., BCA FSL, Seattle, WA [On news.announce.newgroups, there will be but one call for discussion for any newsgroup.-eliot] Formal call for discussion ========================== This is the 1st call for discussion for the creation of a German soc.culture newsgroup. The proposed newsgroup, unmoderated soc.culture.german, is intended to generally provide a medium for those interested to express and share their views and feelings about *things* (normally discussed in soc.culture newsgroups) related to Germany and Germans. The discussion period will last for 2 weeks from today. Comments and discussions are welcome provided they are also posted to news.groups newsgroup. ********************************************************************* * Bob Boulanger Verdix Corporation * * [email protected] 1600 NW Compton Drive * * (503)690-1116(w) (503)357-4644(h) Aloha, OR 97006 * From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:20:37 1992 Flags: 000000000201 From: Bob BoulangerNewsgroups: news.groups,news.announce.newgroups,soc.misc,soc.culture.misc,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.british,soc.roots Subject: CALL FOR VOTES -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN Date: 27 Feb 90 22:48:26 GMT Reply-To: Bob Boulanger Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR Followup-to: poster Keywords: posted =========================================================================== CALL FOR VOTES - SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN =========================================================================== This is the first formal "call for votes" for the creation of a world-wide, UNMODERATED soc.culture.german newsgroup on USENET. The discussion period for creation of soc.culture.german has already ended and a lot of interest was observed during the discussion period. The proposed newsgroup is intended to generally provide a medium for those interested to express, share, and exchange their views, ideas, and feelings about Germany and Germanic culture. Possible discussion issues include aspects of Germany - culture, history, philosophy, ideology, geography; - societies, traditions, customs; - literature, poetry, art, folklore; - languages, books; - science, technology; - food, cookery; - local events, news, programs, economy; - communities abroad, problems, needs; and - *things* normally discussed in the "soc.culture" newsgroups. Postings may be in either English or German, but posters should bear in mind, regardless of which language they post, that some readers may not be able to read/translate your postings. To Vote, send e-mail to: [email protected] OR simply reply to this message. Voting period will last from Feb 28th, until Midnight, March 20th, 1990. As per USENET newsgroup creation guidelines, - Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote (YES) for the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.Germany as proposed" or "I vote against (NO for) the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.germany as proposed". The wording doesn't have to be exact, it just needs to be unambiguous. In particular, statements of the form "I would vote for this group if..." are considered COMMENTS and will NOT be counted as votes. - Only votes that arrive DURING the voting period will be counted. - ONLY votes E-MAILED to the vote-taker will count. - Votes POSTED to the net for any reason (including inability to get mail to the vote-taker) and proxy votes (such as having a mailing list maintainer claim a vote for each member of the list) will NOT be counted. - At the end of the voting period, if 100 more YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create votes AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes received are in favor of the creation, a newgroup control message will be sent out. If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 portion is not met, the newsgroup will not be created. I will post a weekly voting reminder. Bob Boulanger Vote-taker ********************************************************************* * Bob Boulanger Verdix Corporation * * [email protected] 1600 NW Compton Drive * * (503)690-1116(w) (503)357-4644(h) Aloha, OR 97006 * From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:34:28 1992 Flags: 000000000201 From: Bob Boulanger Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: FINAL CALL FOR VOTES -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN Date: 15 Mar 90 16:16:22 GMT Sender: [email protected] Reply-To: Bob Boulanger Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR Keywords: posted =========================================================================== CALL FOR VOTES - SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN =========================================================================== This is the second formal "call for votes" for the creation of a world-wide, UNMODERATED soc.culture.german newsgroup on USENET. The discussion period for creation of soc.culture.german has already ended and a lot of interest was observed during the discussion period. The proposed newsgroup is intended to generally provide a medium for those interested to express, share, and exchange their views, ideas, and feelings about Germany and Germanic culture. Possible discussion issues include aspects of German - culture, history, philosophy, ideology, geography; - societies, traditions, customs; - literature, poetry, art, folklore; - languages, books; - science, technology; - food, cookery; - local events, news, programs, economy; - communities abroad, problems, needs; and - *things* normally discussed in the "soc.culture" newsgroups. Postings may be in either English or German, but posters should bear in mind, regardless of which language they post, that some readers may not be able to read/translate your postings. To Vote, send e-mail to: [email protected] OR simply reply to this message. Voting period will last from 1 March 1990 until Midnight, 21 March 1990. As per USENET newsgroup creation guidelines, - Votes MUST be explicit; they should be of the form "I vote (YES) for the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.german as proposed" or "I vote against (NO for) the creation of newsgroup soc.culture.german as proposed". The wording doesn't have to be exact, it just needs to be unambiguous. In particular, statements of the form "I would vote for this group if..." are considered COMMENTS and will NOT be counted as votes. - Only votes that arrive DURING the voting period will be counted. - ONLY votes E-MAILED to the vote-taker will count. - Votes POSTED to the net for any reason (including inability to get mail to the vote-taker) and proxy votes (such as having a mailing list maintainer claim a vote for each member of the list) will NOT be counted. - At the end of the voting period, if 100 more YES/create votes are received than NO/don't create votes AND at least 2/3 of the total number of valid votes received are in favor of the creation, a newgroup control message will be sent out. If the 100 vote margin or 2/3 portion is not met, the newsgroup will not be created. I will post a weekly voting reminder. Bob Boulanger Vote-taker ********************************************************************* * Bob Boulanger Verdix Corporation * * [email protected] 1600 NW Compton Drive * * (503)690-1116(w) (503)357-4644(h) Aloha, OR 97006 * From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:37:34 1992 Flags: 000000000201 From: Bob Boulanger Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: FINAL RESULTS -- SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN PASSES Date: 22 Mar 90 17:26:54 GMT Reply-To: Bob Boulanger Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR Followup.to: news.groups Keywords: posted SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN -- RESULT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The voting for the creation of soc.culture.german (unmoderated) ended at 00:00:00 PST March 22, 1990. My sincere THANKS to all those who voted. Charter is available from [email protected] Final vote tally ---------------- TOTAL Votes: 231 YES Votes : 217 (93.94%) NO Votes : 14 ( 6.07%) According to USENET guidelines, there must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes and the YES votes must also comprise a 2/3 plurality of all votes. Based on these requirements and the preceding vote tally, soc.culture.german PASSES As stated in USENET guidelines, there will be a 5 days waiting period for the net to check the result. If everything checks out, soc.culture.german will be created at the end of this week. I'll send out a welcoming message to all who voted and how to access soc.culture.german !!! Below is the list of votes, as required !!! ======================================================================== YES VOTES ======================================================================== Tom Hartman [email protected] Michael Kustermann prism.gatech.edu!iadt3mk Bob Lackman [email protected] Bill Wolfe [email protected] Kathleen Walbroehl [email protected] Roland F. McKenney granite.cr.bull.com!mckenney Mark A. Law emunix.emich.edu!mal Sing Z. S. Young saturn.ucsc.edu!young ?? red.cs.ubc.ca!wvong John F. Haugh III cs.utexas.edu!rpp386.Cactus.ORG!jfh -- 10 -- Milton D. Miller en.ecn.purdue.edu!milton David Partain [email protected] Bruno Di Stefano [email protected] Dorai Sitaram rice.edu!dorai Bengt Larsson [email protected] Lars Fischer [email protected] Connie Hirsch ATHENA.MIT.EDU!fuzzy Ulrik Serges [email protected] Olivier Causse llifia.imag.fr!causse Du Nguyen [email protected] -- 20 -- Timothy J. Lee ernie.Berkeley.EDU!timlee Paul Work cs.umr.edu!paulw Miki HERMANN [email protected] Kurt Schroeder [email protected] Leonard Kleinow [email protected] Laurie Sefton [email protected] Werner Uhrig rascal.ics.utexas.edu!werner Peter Schorn [email protected] James Fosler [email protected] Lars Aronsson [email protected] -- 30 -- Mike Cooney cooney@lakesys Ed ? math.lsa.umich.edu!emv Stanier A NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!alan%essex.ac.uk J. Daniel Smith [email protected] Karl 'Dixie' Hultland [email protected] Wilmer Pereira irisa.fr!Wilmer.Pereira Jerry Kattke att!ihlpl!kattke Alan Walworth csuchico.edu!ayw Oliver Laumann [email protected] Malcolm L. Carlock [email protected] -- 40 -- Jeffrey A. Schavland [email protected] Bret Troly [email protected] Magnus Rimvall ra.crd.ge.com!rimvallm Guido Kneib hanauma.STANFORD.EDU!guido Sami Jutila stekt.oulu.fi!so-saj Irek Defee [email protected] John Carl Brown homxb.att.com!jcb Joe Johnson jjohnson%[email protected] Joe Camaratta audi!jcc Joubert Berger {hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ccastjb -- 50 -- Douglas Krause [email protected] Dick Schoeller [email protected] Tom Haapanen [email protected] Bob Janssens [email protected] John Darvish [email protected] Kurt J. Lidl [email protected] Harish P. Hiriyannaiah [email protected] John Wagner PSUVM.PSU.EDU!JIW2 Dan Veditz ashtate.A-T.COM!dveditz ? [email protected] -- 60 -- Thomas Krueger [email protected] Alex M. Lee [email protected]) Mark D. Baushke [email protected] Bryan Bayerdorffer cs.utexas.edu!bryanb Eric Pepke SCRI1.SCRI.FSU.EDU!PEPKE (Eric Pepke) Karen E. Isaacson [email protected] Poh-Ki Hui uhura.cc.rochester.edu!phui ?? cs.vu.nl!gpvos Charles W.T. Tang eleazar.dartmouth.edu!tang Craig E. Ward [email protected] -- 70 -- Charles Balan [email protected] Bryce Rumbles [email protected] Behzad Alavi ...!pacbell!pbhyg!balavi Don efsl@tahoma Stephan Somogyi [email protected] John Grantham [email protected] David Scheid danzan.EBay.Sun.COM!scheid iJeremy Klahhane [email protected] Rich Haller oregon.uoregon.edu!RHALLER Raymond Rosch [email protected] -- 80 -- Jay Legenhausen cs.wisc.edu!legenhau CARL G. WOLFE MUVMS3.BITNET!ESS015 Elaine Hacklaender [email protected] Susanne Hupfer YALE.ARPA!hupfer-susanne Greg Dykema Sun.COM!phantast Rodney Boyd vrdxhq!uunet!sq.com!rodney Ellen Keyne Seebacher [email protected] Bryan Siegfried [email protected] David Crane violet.berkeley.edu!dcrane Marshall Lake irscscm!mlake -- 90 -- Chris Davies [email protected] Dave Tygra sharkey.cc.umich.edu!tygra!dave Gerd Hillebrand [email protected] Smith J D NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!smijd%essex.ac.uk Dorota Szlenk ecs.umass.edu!SZLENK ?? [email protected] William J. Watson [email protected] Fred R. Reenstjerna [email protected],Marshall University ?? tut.fi!nurmi Brian O'Donoghue [email protected] -- 100 -- Roman Brenes toaster.SFSU.EDU!roman Robert Keller [email protected] Frederick M. Korz [email protected] Sonja Kattner [email protected] Jamie Saker [email protected] Ronald N. Voss apple.com!vossron Erich Hegenberger ecs.umass.edu!HEGENBERGER Roger Leroux [email protected] B.A. Badger x102c.ess.harris.com!bbadger Erik Ohrnberger sharkey!edsews!edstip!ohrnb -- 110 -- Mathias Luthi [email protected] John Weinhardt cbnews.att.com!jgw Stephen K Mulrine i AC.UK!smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk ?? gsbacd.uchicago.edu!gft_robert ?? capmkt!bandy Dave Taylor mathcs.emory.edu!dt Ted Swift {hplabs,lll-crg/lcc, pacbell}!well!tswift Mark Boltz PSUVM.PSU.EDU!MRB118 Jim L. Beug ogicse!decwrl!polyslo!jlbeug Gilbert W. Pilz Jr. [email protected] -- 120 -- Bonnie R. Hiller Hudson.Stanford.EDU!hiller Wayne Angevine [email protected] Allan Wilson gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca!wilsona ?? RELAY.CS.NET!HAEHNLE%iravcl.ira.uka.de Craig E. Ward [email protected] Paul J. Mech oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU!deadpup!paul Eamonn O'Brien cbnewsk.att.com!eob Merri L Naka ICS.UCI.EDU!mnaka Graeme Mullin NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!dmullin%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk Sean Matthews NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK!sean%castle.edinburgh.ac.uk -- 130 -- Timothy S. Newman cpsvax.cps.msu.edu!newman Michael Engel CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!engel%BATATA.BITNET Michael Engel CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!engel%BATATA.BITNET Erich ? niwot.scd.ucar.EDU!erich Donna J. Rostetter [email protected] Lee F. Mellinger [email protected] David Scholten frith.egr.msu.edu!scholten Dr. Sanio athen.sp4n1.siemens.de Andy Lang cdp!usagdr> Armin Mikler atanasoff.MYDOMAIN!mikler -- 140 -- Wayne E. Sanders Jr. [email protected] Manfred J. Pfluegl balboa.eng.uci.edu!pfluegl aly farag [email protected] Geraint Edwards JANet:[email protected] Vasant Honavar [email protected] Diane Bracken hpindda.hp.com!hpda!bracken Per Wahlund tdb.sunet.se!per Andreas Meyer ameyer%[email protected] Anthony Stome nbc1.ge.com!stone iggi ? ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu!V096NM93> -- 150 -- Andrew Boardman cs.columbia.edu!amb Kenneth C. Moyle [email protected] Sergio Gelato [email protected] Ed Bailey [email protected] Henry Mensch [email protected] Menno Jonkers cs.vu.nl!mvjonke Anne Brink [email protected] Martin Goldstern math.berkeley.edu!goldstrn KELLEY Rogers 29396 slmisc.mdcbbs.com!rogers John Canino [email protected] -- 160 -- Karl Stupeeldorf mthvax.CS.Miami.EDU!karl Stefan Bressler [email protected] Martin Ottp [email protected] Raj Manandhar uunet!harvard.harvard.edu!raj%cfa272 Joseph Nave root.co.uk!jan Janet L. Pflederer [email protected] Stefan Hauser [email protected] Corinne Braun uunet!ux.acs.umn.edu!cbraun Chris Overton portia.stanford.edu!louiex2 ?? uunet!microsoft!stevesc -- 170 -- Kent Hedlundh [email protected] Gary L. Dare [email protected] Heiko Hecht [email protected] Mark Routbort [email protected] ?? uunet!cie.uoregon.edu!twymer D.MacGregor [email protected] Steve Oberste fcrfv1.ncifcrf.gov!oberste Bob Boulanger [email protected] raymond tam [email protected] Anja Petzold gmdzi!anja -- 180 -- Peter Mueller mace.cc.purdue.edu!cs0 Christian Kaiser [email protected] Richard Wagener nereid.sal.ists.ca!wagener Pam Haukenfrers [email protected] Susan Kenzler csd4.csd.uwm.edu!susan Michael Fendt fendt%[email protected] Marylyn Westervelt CU.NIH.GOV!QMW Doug Scofield [email protected] Donna Reiner [email protected] James E P Saari [email protected] -- 190 -- Horst D. Cosgrove mtgzy.att.com!hdc Harald Fuchs [email protected] Karen Birkelbach [email protected] Ryszard Jan Nipl mop.luth.se!Ryszard.Nipl Bert ncsuvm.ncsu.edu!C0129%UNIVSCVM.BITNET Bjoern Wallin [email protected] Dale Cook [email protected] Pete Gayde iwtmx!gayde Oliver Hellwig skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov!hellwig Arlene D. Hills [email protected] -- 200 -- Roseann R. Hogan, Ph. D. [email protected] John Chang turing.cs.rpi.edu!changj ? tan%mhuxo%[email protected] Michael G Koopman unix.cis.pitt.edu!mgkst1 J. David Naumann vx.acs.umn.edu!NAUMANN Snoopy cse.ogi.edu!sopwith!snoopy Lorraine C. Williams [email protected] Robert N. Sparbel [email protected] Bernd Stramm stramm%[email protected] Sanjay Singh [email protected] Timo Ensio Pelkonen taltta.hut.fi!s29863s -- 210 -- Brian Donat ogicse!decwrl!infmx!briand Doug Hall CSDOUG@STMARYTX Mike Weitz [email protected] Michael E. Wildenauer [email protected] Ivan Herman [email protected] Christopher Tate [email protected] Betty Vachter [email protected] Alfred von Campe milkwy.enet.dec.com!avoncampe -- 217 -- ======================================================================== NO VOTES ======================================================================== Tim Oldham [email protected] Jonathan R Barnett wpi.wpi.edu!jbarnett Chip Rosenthal [email protected] Pekka Riiali [email protected] Charleen Bunjiovianna ads.com!charleen Richard H. Miller [email protected] Arthur David Olson [email protected] Leonard B. Bliss uncecs.edu!blissl ?? uunet!quiche.cs.mcgill.ca!utility C. Harald Koch [email protected] -- 10 -- Gregory G. Woodbury [email protected] ?? sun!portal!cup.portal.com!mmm Christian Peper [email protected] Yaakov Kayman CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU!YZKCU -- 14 -- ********************************************************************* * Bob Boulanger Verdix Corporation * * [email protected] 1600 NW Compton Drive * * (503)690-1116(w) (503)357-4644(h) Aloha, OR 97006 *