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From [email protected] Thu May  1 22:29:13 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Angus <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.education,misc.education.adult,misc.education.home-school.misc,misc.education.language.english,misc.education.medical Subject: RFD: misc.education.moo Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: misc.education.moo Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 05:27:14 GMT Lines: 107 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:332                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)                  unmoderated group misc.education.moo  Please send replies to:  news.groups  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup misc.education.moo. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV) ; you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.  Newsgroup line: misc.education.moo	Discussions on the use of Moo for educational purposes.  RATIONALE: misc.education.moo  Subjects related to the use of MOO (extremely feature-rich Text-language-based Multi-user Object Oriented Virtual Reality) for Education, Information, Culture, Research and Support. There is not yet a group dedicated to the specific discussion of this fast growing and vital internet resourse.  Most interMoo discussion takes place via "pages" from one Moo to another or on the various Moos themselves which is slow and laborious.  There is a need for a central discussion group where announcements can be made and ideas and problems can be discussed  misc.education.moo should provide a dedicated forum for the discussion of the problems, ideas and prospects of using Moo for education, information, culture, research and support.  misc.education.moo should also provide an ability to educate the internet community, which often thinks of Moo in relation to games and/or chat only, of the use of Moo for Education and Support.  CHARTER: misc.education.moo  Appropriate posting would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of Moo in schools     for and by children in formal Learning situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for use of Moo technology in education,     information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of Educational Moos for Cultural     and informational exchange and health-related information and     support.  4.  Announcement of new Educational Moos and updates on     established Educational Moos.  5.  Discussion of Remediation, and specialized education on     Educational Moos  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational MOOs.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods to study EduMoos  8.  Discussion the ethics of moo studies  9.  To spread information about EduMoo-related conferences, articles,     call for papers and special issues of journals, call for papers     to conferences etc.  10. To point at and/or summarise discussions in related mailing lists  11. To discuss published articles (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss saftey, censorship, privacy on EduMoos issues  13. To create a serious-mooing www homepage with:         - a list/database with references/links to moo papers.         - links to homepages of moo researchers and moo projects.         - a FAQ.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). All discussion should be posted to news.groups.  At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Writing an RFD".  Please refer to these documents if you have questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:          news.announce.newgroups,         misc.education,         misc.education.adult,         misc.education.home-school.misc,         misc.education.language.english,         misc.education.medical,         misc.education.multimedia  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Sat May  3 22:42:26 1997 X-Original-Path: bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!news.utdallas.edu!news.tamu.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sonysjc!vixie!news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Angus <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.education,misc.education.adult,misc.education.home-school.misc,misc.education.language.english,misc.education.medical Subject: RFD: misc.education.moo Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: misc.education.moo Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 05:27:14 GMT Path: news.isc.org!vixie!data.ramona.vix.com!nnrp1.crl.com!news.znet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!disgorge.news.demon.net!demon!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.sgi.com!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!ferret.ocunix.on.ca!resurrector X-Comment: [email protected] rogue canceller active again X-Comment: This article resurrected by [email protected] X-Comment: See news.admin.net-abuse.announce for further details Lines: 108 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:352                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)                  unmoderated group misc.education.moo  Please send replies to:  news.groups  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup misc.education.moo. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV) ; you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.  Newsgroup line: misc.education.moo	Discussions on the use of Moo for educational purposes.  RATIONALE: misc.education.moo  Subjects related to the use of MOO (extremely feature-rich Text-language-based Multi-user Object Oriented Virtual Reality) for Education, Information, Culture, Research and Support. There is not yet a group dedicated to the specific discussion of this fast growing and vital internet resourse.  Most interMoo discussion takes place via "pages" from one Moo to another or on the various Moos themselves which is slow and laborious.  There is a need for a central discussion group where announcements can be made and ideas and problems can be discussed  misc.education.moo should provide a dedicated forum for the discussion of the problems, ideas and prospects of using Moo for education, information, culture, research and support.  misc.education.moo should also provide an ability to educate the internet community, which often thinks of Moo in relation to games and/or chat only, of the use of Moo for Education and Support.  CHARTER: misc.education.moo  Appropriate posting would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of Moo in schools     for and by children in formal Learning situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for use of Moo technology in education,     information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of Educational Moos for Cultural     and informational exchange and health-related information and     support.  4.  Announcement of new Educational Moos and updates on     established Educational Moos.  5.  Discussion of Remediation, and specialized education on     Educational Moos  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational MOOs.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods to study EduMoos  8.  Discussion the ethics of moo studies  9.  To spread information about EduMoo-related conferences, articles,     call for papers and special issues of journals, call for papers     to conferences etc.  10. To point at and/or summarise discussions in related mailing lists  11. To discuss published articles (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss saftey, censorship, privacy on EduMoos issues  13. To create a serious-mooing www homepage with:         - a list/database with references/links to moo papers.         - links to homepages of moo researchers and moo projects.         - a FAQ.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). All discussion should be posted to news.groups.  At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Writing an RFD".  Please refer to these documents if you have questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:          news.announce.newgroups,         misc.education,         misc.education.adult,         misc.education.home-school.misc,         misc.education.language.english,         misc.education.medical,         misc.education.multimedia  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Sat May  3 22:42:27 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> X-Original-Path: bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!news.utdallas.edu!news.tamu.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sonysjc!vixie!news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Angus <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.education,misc.education.adult,misc.education.home-school.misc,misc.education.language.english,misc.education.medical Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: misc.education.moo Date: 04 May 97 05:42:27 GMT Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back X-Comment: [email protected] rogue canceller active again X-Comment: This article resurrected by [email protected] X-Comment: See news.admin.net-abuse.announce for further details Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:117  Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator.  From [email protected] Sun May  4 14:14:05 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Angus <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.education,misc.education.adult,misc.education.home-school.misc,misc.education.language.english,misc.education.medical Subject: RFD: misc.education.moo Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: misc.education.moo Date: Fri, 04 May 1997 21:00:00 GMT Lines: 111 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:372                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)                  unmoderated group misc.education.moo  [ news.announce.newgroups moderator's note: This message is being   reposted because it was cancelled by someone who was not   authorized to do so. -- tale ]  Please send replies to:  news.groups  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup misc.education.moo. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV) ; you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.  Newsgroup line: misc.education.moo	Discussions on the use of Moo for educational purposes.  RATIONALE: misc.education.moo  Subjects related to the use of MOO (extremely feature-rich Text-language-based Multi-user Object Oriented Virtual Reality) for Education, Information, Culture, Research and Support. There is not yet a group dedicated to the specific discussion of this fast growing and vital internet resourse.  Most interMoo discussion takes place via "pages" from one Moo to another or on the various Moos themselves which is slow and laborious.  There is a need for a central discussion group where announcements can be made and ideas and problems can be discussed  misc.education.moo should provide a dedicated forum for the discussion of the problems, ideas and prospects of using Moo for education, information, culture, research and support.  misc.education.moo should also provide an ability to educate the internet community, which often thinks of Moo in relation to games and/or chat only, of the use of Moo for Education and Support.  CHARTER: misc.education.moo  Appropriate posting would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of Moo in schools     for and by children in formal Learning situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for use of Moo technology in education,     information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of Educational Moos for Cultural     and informational exchange and health-related information and     support.  4.  Announcement of new Educational Moos and updates on     established Educational Moos.  5.  Discussion of Remediation, and specialized education on     Educational Moos  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational MOOs.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods to study EduMoos  8.  Discussion the ethics of moo studies  9.  To spread information about EduMoo-related conferences, articles,     call for papers and special issues of journals, call for papers     to conferences etc.  10. To point at and/or summarise discussions in related mailing lists  11. To discuss published articles (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss saftey, censorship, privacy on EduMoos issues  13. To create a serious-mooing www homepage with:         - a list/database with references/links to moo papers.         - links to homepages of moo researchers and moo projects.         - a FAQ.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). All discussion should be posted to news.groups.  At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Writing an RFD".  Please refer to these documents if you have questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:          news.announce.newgroups,         misc.education,         misc.education.adult,         misc.education.home-school.misc,         misc.education.language.english,         misc.education.medical,         misc.education.multimedia  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Thu May  8 07:23:02 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: "Angus" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.education,alt.education,school.general Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.education.virtualreality Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 07:37:47 GMT Lines: 155 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:394                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)            unmoderated group misc.education.virtualreality  Please send replies to:  news.groups  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup misc.education.virtualreality. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV) ; you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.  CHANGES from RFD:  After discussion in news.groups minor editing changes have been made in all sections of this rationale and charter including a change in the Newsgroup line which was: Discussions on the use of Moo for educational purposes.  After more discussion it became obvious that the acronym MOO in the name was confusing and did not clearly reflect the purpose of the proposed usnet group misc.education.moo, therefore the NAME has been changed as reflected below and the RATIONAL has been changed slightly to better explain Moo or text based virtual reality,  CHANGES from previous RFD:  RFD: misc.education.moo  2nd RFD: Renamed: misc.education.virtualreality  Newsgroup line: misc.education.virtualreality	Moo text virtual reality for education.  RATIONALE: misc.education.virtualreality  Subjects related to the use of MOO text Virtual Reality (extremely feature-rich Text-language-based Multi-user Object Oriented Virtual Reality) for Education, Information, Culture, Research and Support.  MOO is text based virtual reality created using the moo programming language.  It has two features:  1) it is interactive like IRC;  2) it is extensible so anyone can create the      kind of setting they want.  There is not yet a group dedicated to the specific discussion of this fast growing and vital internet resource for the use of education, information, culture, research and support.  Most interMoo discussion takes place via "pages" from one Moo to another or on the various Moos themselves which is slow and laborious.  There is a need for a central and very public discussion group where announcements can be made and ideas and problems can be exchanged and discussed.  misc.education.virtualreality would provide a dedicated forum strictly for exchange of information and ideas regarding Moo technology for education, information, culture, research and support as opposed to already available usenet groups dedicated to the discussion of Moo technology for games and chat.  CHARTER: misc.education.virtualreality  Appropriate posting would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of Moo in     schools  for and by children in formal Learning situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for use of Moo technology in education,     information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of Educational Moo technology for      Cultural  and informational exchange and health-related information and      support.  4.  Announcement of new Educational Moos and updates on      established Educational Moos.  5.  Discussion of Remediation, and specialized education on      Educational Moos  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of      educational Moos.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods to study Educational Moos  8.  Discussion the ethics of moo studies  9.  To spread information about Educational Moo-related      conferences, articles,  call for papers and special issues      of journals, call for papers  to conferences etc.  10. To point at and/or summarize discussions in related mailing       lists  11. To discuss published articles (perhaps together with their       authors).  12. To discuss safety, censorship, privacy on Educational Moos       issues  13. To create a serious-Educational moo www homepage with:         - a list/database with references/links to moo papers.         - links to homepages of moo researchers and moo projects.         - a FAQ.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). All discussion should be posted to news.groups.  At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Writing an RFD".  Please refer to these documents if you have questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:  news.groups,news.announce.newgroups,misc.education, alt.education, school.general  Pointers to this RFD will appear in the following newsgroups:  misc.education.adult,misc.education.home-school.christian, misc.education.home-school.misc, misc.education.language.english, misc.education.medical, misc.education.multimedia, misc.education.science,alt.education.alternative, alt.education.disabled, alt.education.research, alt.support.learning-difficulties, alt.support.learning-disab, school.teachers, k12.council, k12.lang, k12.lang.art, k12.library, k12.math-ed, k12.news, k12.projects, k12.sys, k12.ed, k12.ed.art, k12.ed.comp, k12.ed.comp.literacy, k12.ed.lang, k12.ed.life-skills, k12.ed.math, k12.ed.science, k12.ed.soc-studies, k12.ed.special, k12.ed.tag, k12.ed.tech, k12.chat, k12.chat.elemenatry, k12.chat.ib, k12.chat.junior, k12.chat.teacher, schl.sig.k12admin, schl.sig.lmnt,misc.kids  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]> ...............Cleo   [email protected]  From [email protected] Mon May 26 00:15:05 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.education,alt.education,school.general,alt.mud Subject: 3rd RFD: misc.education.virtualreality Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 07:07:03 GMT Lines: 166 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:453                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)            unmoderated group misc.education.virtualreality  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup misc.education.virtualreality. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV) ; you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.  CHANGES from previous RFD:  After discussion it became obvious that the acronym MOO in the name was confusing and did not clearly reflect the purpose of the proposed usnet group misc.education.moo, therefore the has been changed from misc.education.moo to misc.education.virtualreality  After discussion following the posting of the 2nd RFD minor editing changes have been made in all sections of this rationale and charter including a change in the Newsgroup line which was: Discussions on the use of Virtual Reality for educational purposes. Also the has been changed slightly to better explain text based virtual reality. All references to moo have been changed to: virtual reality Moos/Mudds/Mushes  Newsgroup line: misc.education.virtualreality	Educational text based virtual reality.  RATIONALE: misc.education.virtualreality  Subjects related to the use of text based virtual reality (extremely feature-rich text-language-based multi-user object oriented virtual reality) for education, information, culture, research and support.  Text based virtual reality is created using the moo, mudd or mush programming language.  It has two main features:  1) it is interactive like IRC;  2) it is extensible so anyone can create the      kind of setting they want.  There is not yet a group dedicated to the specific discussion of this fast growing and vital internet resource for the use of education, information, culture, research and support.  Most interMoo/Mush/Mudd discussion takes place via "pages" from one Moo/Mudd/Mush to another or on the various Moos/Mudds/Mushes themselves which is slow and laborious.  There is a need for a central and very public discussion group where announcements can be made and ideas and problems specific to educational virtual reality technology can be exchanged and discussed.  misc.education.virtualreality would provide a dedicated forum strictly for exchange of information and ideas regarding virtual reality Moo/Mudd/Mush technology for education, information, culture, research and support as opposed to already available usenet groups dedicated to the discussion of the technology for games and chat.  CHARTER: misc.education.virtualreality  Appropriate posting would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of Moo in     schools  for and by children in formal Learning situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for use of virtual reality Moo/Mudd/Mush     technology in education, information, culture, research and     support.  3.  Strategies for the use of educational virtual reality     Moo/Mudd/Mush technology for cultural and informational exchange     and health-related information and support.  4.  Announcement of new educational virtual reality Moos/Mudds/Mushes     and updates on established educational virtual reality     Moos/Mudds/Mushes.  5.  Discussion of remediation, and specialized education on      educational virtual reality Moos/Mudds/Mushes.  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of      educational virtual reality Moos/Mudds/Mushes.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods to study educational     virtual reality Moos/Mudds/Mushes.  8.  Discussion the ethics of virtual reality Moos/Mudds/Mushes     studies  9.  To spread information about educational virtual reality     Moos/Mudds/Mushes-related conferences, articles, call     for papers and special issues of journals, call for papers     to conferences etc.  10. To point at and/or summarize discussions in related mailing     lists  11. To discuss published articles (perhaps together with their     authors).  12. To discuss safety, censorship, privacy on educational     virtual reality Moos/Mudds/Mushes issues.  13. To create a serious-educational virtual reality     Moos/Mudds/Mushes www homepage with:         - a list/database with references/links to papers.         - links to homepages of moo researchers and projects.         - a FAQ.  Inappropriate posting would include, but not be limited to:  1)  Commercial advertising 2)  binaries 3)  flames, spams and trolls  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). All discussion should be posted to news.groups.  At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Writing an RFD".  Please refer to these documents if you have questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:  news.groups, news.announce.newgroups, misc.education, alt.education, school.general, sci.virtual-worlds, alt.mud  Pointers to this RFD will appear in the following newsgroups:  misc.education.adult,misc.education.home-school.christian, misc.education.home-school.misc, misc.education.language.english, misc.education.medical, misc.education.multimedia, misc.education.science,alt.education.alternative, alt.education.disabled, alt.education.research, alt.support.learning-difficulties, alt.support.learning-disab, school.teachers, k12.council, k12.lang, k12.lang.art, k12.library, k12.math-ed, k12.news, k12.projects, k12.sys, k12.ed, k12.ed.art, k12.ed.comp, k12.ed.comp.literacy, k12.ed.lang, k12.ed.life-skills, k12.ed.math, k12.ed.science, k12.ed.soc-studies, k12.ed.special, k12.ed.tag, k12.ed.tech, k12.chat, k12.chat.elemenatry, k12.chat.ib, k12.chat.junior, k12.chat.teacher, schl.sig.k12admin, schl.sig.lmnt,misc.kids,alt.mud.programming  Pointers to this RFD will appear in the following listservs:  [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]> ...............Cleo   [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Jun 17 17:00:07 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: "Angus" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.education,alt.education,school.general,alt.mud Subject: 4th RFD: misc.education.virtualreality Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 23:56:47 GMT Lines: 151 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:507                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)            unmoderated group misc.education.virtualreality  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup misc.education.virtualreality. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV) ; you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.  CHANGES from previous RFD:  After discussion it became obvious that the acronym MOO in the name was confusing and did not clearly reflect the purpose of the proposed group misc.education.moo, therefore this has been changed from misc.education.moo to misc.education.virtualreality.  After discussion following the posting of the 2nd and 3rd RFDs, minor editing changes have been made in all sections of this rationale and charter, including a change in the Newsgroup line. The text has also been revised to better explain text based virtual reality, and references to Moo/Mud/Mush have been significantly reduced.  Newsgroup line: misc.education.virtualreality	Virtual reality as a teaching tool.  RATIONALE: misc.education.virtualreality  Text based virtual reality uses Moo/Mud/Mush programming technology to create interactive environments which can be used for educational purposes in and outside the classroom. It has two main features:  1) It is interactive in that it requires active participation by the student; and 2) It is extensible in that it enables programmers to create many different kinds of settings.  Most discussion of this type of programming takes place via "pages" from one Moo/Mud/Mush to another, on the various Moo/Mud/Mush games themselves, or in newsgroups dedicated mainly to the discussion of the Moo/Mud/Mush games and chat.  There is not yet a group dedicated to the discussion of this fast-growing and vital Internet resource for education, information, culture, research and support. There is a need to create such a group where parents and teachers can exchange ideas on the use of VR technology as a teaching tool. This proposal is designed to meet that need.  CHARTER: misc.education.virtualreality  Appropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of virtual     reality in schools for and by children in formal learning     situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for the use of virtual reality techniques     in education, information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of educational virtual reality technology     for cultural and informational exchange and health-related     information and support.  4.  Announcement of new educational virtual reality programs and     updates on established programs.  5.  Discussion of the use of educational virtual reality programs     for academic remediation and in special education.  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational virtual reality.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods for studying educational     virtual reality applications.  8.  Discussion of the ethics of virtual reality educational programs.  9.  To spread information about conferences, articles, calls     for papers and special issues of journals dealing with virtual     reality technology in the education field.  10. To point at and/or summarize discussions in related mailing     lists.  11. To discuss published articles related to the topic of the     newsgroup (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss safety, censorship, and privacy issues as they relate     to the topic of educational virtual reality.  13. To create a web site dedicated to the topic, which will include:          - a list/database with references/links to papers.         - links to homepages of researchers and projects.         - a FAQ.  Inappropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1)  Commercial advertising 2)  binaries 3)  flames, spams and trolls  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). All discussion should be posted to news.groups.  At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker.  This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Writing an RFD".  Please refer to these documents if you have questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:  news.groups, news.announce.newgroups, misc.education, alt.education, school.general, sci.virtual-worlds, alt.mud  Pointers to this RFD will appear in the following newsgroups:  misc.education.adult,misc.education.home-school.christian, misc.education.home-school.misc, misc.education.language.english, misc.education.medical, misc.education.multimedia, misc.education.science,alt.education.alternative, alt.education.disabled, alt.education.research, alt.support.learning-difficulties, alt.support.learning-disab, school.teachers, k12.council, k12.lang, k12.lang.art, k12.library, k12.math-ed, k12.news, k12.projects, k12.sys, k12.ed, k12.ed.art, k12.ed.comp, k12.ed.comp.literacy, k12.ed.lang, k12.ed.life-skills, k12.ed.math, k12.ed.science, k12.ed.soc-studies, k12.ed.special, k12.ed.tag, k12.ed.tech, k12.chat, k12.chat.elemenatry, k12.chat.ib, k12.chat.junior, k12.chat.teacher, schl.sig.k12admin, schl.sig.lmnt,misc.kids,alt.mud.programming  Pointers to this RFD will appear in the following listservs:  [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]>  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 08:15:11 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: CFV: misc.education.virtualreality Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 14:47:47 GMT Lines: 200 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:647                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)            unmoderated group misc.education.virtualreality  Newsgroups line: misc.education.virtualreality	Virtual reality as a teaching tool.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]> Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: misc.education.virtualreality  Text based virtual reality uses Moo/Mud/Mush programming technology to create interactive environments which can be used for educational purposes in and outside the classroom. It has two main features:  1) It is interactive in that it requires active participation by the student; and 2) It is extensible in that it enables programmers to create many different kinds of settings.  Most discussion of this type of programming takes place via "pages" from one Moo/Mud/Mush to another, on the various Moo/Mud/Mush games themselves, or in newsgroups dedicated mainly to the discussion of the Moo/Mud/Mush games and chat.  There is not yet a group dedicated to the discussion of this fast-growing and vital Internet resource for education, information, culture, research and support. There is a need to create such a group where parents and teachers can exchange ideas on the use of VR technology as a teaching tool. This proposal is designed to meet that need.  CHARTER: misc.education.virtualreality  Appropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of virtual     reality in schools for and by children in formal learning     situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for the use of virtual reality techniques     in education, information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of educational virtual reality technology     for cultural and informational exchange and health-related     information and support.  4.  Announcement of new educational virtual reality programs and     updates on established programs.  5.  Discussion of the use of educational virtual reality programs     for academic remediation and in special education.  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational virtual reality.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods for studying educational     virtual reality applications.  8.  Discussion of the ethics of virtual reality educational programs.  9.  To spread information about conferences, articles, calls     for papers and special issues of journals dealing with virtual     reality technology in the education field.  10. To point at and/or summarize discussions in related mailing     lists.  11. To discuss published articles related to the topic of the     newsgroup (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss safety, censorship, and privacy issues as they relate     to the topic of educational virtual reality.  13. To create a web site dedicated to the topic, which will include:          - a list/database with references/links to papers.         - links to homepages of researchers and projects.         - a FAQ.  Inappropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1)  Commercial advertising 2)  binaries 3)  flames, spams and trolls  END CHARTER.  IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One vote per person, one vote per account.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  HOW TO VOTE:  Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me!  Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts.  Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name.  Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL.  Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here):   [ YES     ]  example.vote.yes   [ NO      ]  example.vote.no   [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention   [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation  Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot.  When you're finished, mail the ballot to <[email protected]>.  Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.  -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------------              Usenet Ballot: misc.education.virtualreality  This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes   |  Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the   |  marker here: votetaker.  Other ballots may be rejected.             |    Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote]   Group     (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [         ]   misc.education.virtualreality ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=-  DISTRIBUTION  This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups:     news.announce.newgroups    news.groups    alt.education    alt.mud    misc.education  and is available by e-mail from the votetaker.  Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:     alt.education.alternative               k12.ed.comp    alt.education.disabled                  k12.ed.comp.literacy    alt.education.research                  k12.ed.lang    alt.mud.programming                     k12.ed.life-skills    alt.support.learning-difficulties       k12.ed.math    alt.support.learning-disab              k12.ed.science    misc.education.adult                    k12.ed.soc-studies    misc.education.home-school.christian    k12.ed.special    misc.education.home-school.misc         k12.ed.tag    misc.education.language.english         k12.ed.tech    misc.education.medical                  k12.lang    misc.education.multimedia               k12.lang.art    misc.education.science                  k12.library    misc.kids                               k12.math-ed    k12.chat                                k12.news    k12.chat.elemenatry                     k12.projects    k12.chat.ib                             k12.sys    k12.chat.junior                         schl.sig.k12admin    k12.chat.teacher                        schl.sig.lmnt    k12.council                             school.general    k12.ed                                  school.teachers    k12.ed.art  --  Rebecca Graham McQuitty  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 08:15:27 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: CFV: misc.education.virtualreality Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 14:56:38 GMT Lines: 200 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:652                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)            unmoderated group misc.education.virtualreality  Newsgroups line: misc.education.virtualreality	Virtual reality as a teaching tool.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]> Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: misc.education.virtualreality  Text based virtual reality uses Moo/Mud/Mush programming technology to create interactive environments which can be used for educational purposes in and outside the classroom. It has two main features:  1) It is interactive in that it requires active participation by the student; and 2) It is extensible in that it enables programmers to create many different kinds of settings.  Most discussion of this type of programming takes place via "pages" from one Moo/Mud/Mush to another, on the various Moo/Mud/Mush games themselves, or in newsgroups dedicated mainly to the discussion of the Moo/Mud/Mush games and chat.  There is not yet a group dedicated to the discussion of this fast-growing and vital Internet resource for education, information, culture, research and support. There is a need to create such a group where parents and teachers can exchange ideas on the use of VR technology as a teaching tool. This proposal is designed to meet that need.  CHARTER: misc.education.virtualreality  Appropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of virtual     reality in schools for and by children in formal learning     situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for the use of virtual reality techniques     in education, information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of educational virtual reality technology     for cultural and informational exchange and health-related     information and support.  4.  Announcement of new educational virtual reality programs and     updates on established programs.  5.  Discussion of the use of educational virtual reality programs     for academic remediation and in special education.  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational virtual reality.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods for studying educational     virtual reality applications.  8.  Discussion of the ethics of virtual reality educational programs.  9.  To spread information about conferences, articles, calls     for papers and special issues of journals dealing with virtual     reality technology in the education field.  10. To point at and/or summarize discussions in related mailing     lists.  11. To discuss published articles related to the topic of the     newsgroup (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss safety, censorship, and privacy issues as they relate     to the topic of educational virtual reality.  13. To create a web site dedicated to the topic, which will include:          - a list/database with references/links to papers.         - links to homepages of researchers and projects.         - a FAQ.  Inappropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1)  Commercial advertising 2)  binaries 3)  flames, spams and trolls  END CHARTER.  IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One vote per person, one vote per account.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  HOW TO VOTE:  Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me!  Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts.  Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name.  Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL.  Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here):   [ YES     ]  example.vote.yes   [ NO      ]  example.vote.no   [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention   [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation  Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot.  When you're finished, mail the ballot to <[email protected]>.  Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.  -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------------              Usenet Ballot: misc.education.virtualreality  This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes   |  Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the   |  marker here: votetaker.  Other ballots may be rejected.             |    Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote]   Group     (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [         ]   misc.education.virtualreality ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=-  DISTRIBUTION  This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups:     news.announce.newgroups    news.groups    alt.education    alt.mud    misc.education  and is available by e-mail from the votetaker.  Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:     alt.education.alternative               k12.ed.comp    alt.education.disabled                  k12.ed.comp.literacy    alt.education.research                  k12.ed.lang    alt.mud.programming                     k12.ed.life-skills    alt.support.learning-difficulties       k12.ed.math    alt.support.learning-disab              k12.ed.science    misc.education.adult                    k12.ed.soc-studies    misc.education.home-school.christian    k12.ed.special    misc.education.home-school.misc         k12.ed.tag    misc.education.language.english         k12.ed.tech    misc.education.medical                  k12.lang    misc.education.multimedia               k12.lang.art    misc.education.science                  k12.library    misc.kids                               k12.math-ed    k12.chat                                k12.news    k12.chat.elemenatry                     k12.projects    k12.chat.ib                             k12.sys    k12.chat.junior                         schl.sig.k12admin    k12.chat.teacher                        schl.sig.lmnt    k12.council                             school.general    k12.ed                                  school.teachers    k12.ed.art  --  Rebecca Graham McQuitty  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 08:30:16 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: CFV: misc.education.virtualreality Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 15:28:57 GMT Lines: 200 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:657                       FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)            unmoderated group misc.education.virtualreality  Newsgroups line: misc.education.virtualreality	Virtual reality as a teaching tool.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]> Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: misc.education.virtualreality  Text based virtual reality uses Moo/Mud/Mush programming technology to create interactive environments which can be used for educational purposes in and outside the classroom. It has two main features:  1) It is interactive in that it requires active participation by the student; and 2) It is extensible in that it enables programmers to create many different kinds of settings.  Most discussion of this type of programming takes place via "pages" from one Moo/Mud/Mush to another, on the various Moo/Mud/Mush games themselves, or in newsgroups dedicated mainly to the discussion of the Moo/Mud/Mush games and chat.  There is not yet a group dedicated to the discussion of this fast-growing and vital Internet resource for education, information, culture, research and support. There is a need to create such a group where parents and teachers can exchange ideas on the use of VR technology as a teaching tool. This proposal is designed to meet that need.  CHARTER: misc.education.virtualreality  Appropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of virtual     reality in schools for and by children in formal learning     situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for the use of virtual reality techniques     in education, information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of educational virtual reality technology     for cultural and informational exchange and health-related     information and support.  4.  Announcement of new educational virtual reality programs and     updates on established programs.  5.  Discussion of the use of educational virtual reality programs     for academic remediation and in special education.  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational virtual reality.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods for studying educational     virtual reality applications.  8.  Discussion of the ethics of virtual reality educational programs.  9.  To spread information about conferences, articles, calls     for papers and special issues of journals dealing with virtual     reality technology in the education field.  10. To point at and/or summarize discussions in related mailing     lists.  11. To discuss published articles related to the topic of the     newsgroup (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss safety, censorship, and privacy issues as they relate     to the topic of educational virtual reality.  13. To create a web site dedicated to the topic, which will include:          - a list/database with references/links to papers.         - links to homepages of researchers and projects.         - a FAQ.  Inappropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1)  Commercial advertising 2)  binaries 3)  flames, spams and trolls  END CHARTER.  IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One vote per person, one vote per account.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud.  When in doubt, ask the votetaker.  HOW TO VOTE:  Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines.  Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me!  Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts.  Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name.  Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL.  Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here):   [ YES     ]  example.vote.yes   [ NO      ]  example.vote.no   [ ABSTAIN ]  example.abstention   [ CANCEL  ]  example.cancellation  Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot.  When you're finished, mail the ballot to <[email protected]>.  Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.  -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------------              Usenet Ballot: misc.education.virtualreality  This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes   |  Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the   |  marker here: votetaker.  Other ballots may be rejected.             |    Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote]   Group     (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [         ]   misc.education.virtualreality ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=-  DISTRIBUTION  This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups:     news.announce.newgroups    news.groups    alt.education    alt.mud    misc.education  and is available by e-mail from the votetaker.  Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:     alt.education.alternative               k12.ed.comp    alt.education.disabled                  k12.ed.comp.literacy    alt.education.research                  k12.ed.lang    alt.mud.programming                     k12.ed.life-skills    alt.support.learning-difficulties       k12.ed.math    alt.support.learning-disab              k12.ed.science    misc.education.adult                    k12.ed.soc-studies    misc.education.home-school.christian    k12.ed.special    misc.education.home-school.misc         k12.ed.tag    misc.education.language.english         k12.ed.tech    misc.education.medical                  k12.lang    misc.education.multimedia               k12.lang.art    misc.education.science                  k12.library    misc.kids                               k12.math-ed    k12.chat                                k12.news    k12.chat.elemenatry                     k12.projects    k12.chat.ib                             k12.sys    k12.chat.junior                         schl.sig.k12admin    k12.chat.teacher                        schl.sig.lmnt    k12.council                             school.general    k12.ed                                  school.teachers    k12.ed.art  --  Rebecca Graham McQuitty  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:09:07 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:04 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:231  Article cancelled by [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:09:09 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:09 GMT Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:239  Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator.  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:09:09 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:04 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:232  Article cancelled by [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:09:10 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:08 GMT Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:244  Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator.  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:22:34 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:04 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:250  Article cancelled by [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:22:36 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:22:35 GMT Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:253  Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator.  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:25:00 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!news.isc.org!bounce-backnews.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:04 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:262  Article cancelled by [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:25:01 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:25:00 GMT Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:264  Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator.  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:27:36 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:04 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:274  Article cancelled by [email protected]  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:27:37 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:27:35 GMT Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:278  Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator.  From [email protected] Tue Aug  5 10:28:41 1997 Control: cancel <[email protected]> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: cmsg cancel <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:04 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:286  Article cancelled by [email protected]  From [email protected] Thu Aug 14 02:15:08 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.education.virtualreality Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <[email protected]> Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:09:37 GMT Lines: 200 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:684                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)            unmoderated group misc.education.virtualreality  Newsgroups line: misc.education.virtualreality	Virtual reality as a teaching tool.  Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]> Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: misc.education.virtualreality  Text based virtual reality uses Moo/Mud/Mush programming technology to create interactive environments which can be used for educational purposes in and outside the classroom. It has two main features:  1) It is interactive in that it requires active participation by the student; and 2) It is extensible in that it enables programmers to create many different kinds of settings.  Most discussion of this type of programming takes place via "pages" from one Moo/Mud/Mush to another, on the various Moo/Mud/Mush games themselves, or in newsgroups dedicated mainly to the discussion of the Moo/Mud/Mush games and chat.  There is not yet a group dedicated to the discussion of this fast-growing and vital Internet resource for education, information, culture, research and support. There is a need to create such a group where parents and teachers can exchange ideas on the use of VR technology as a teaching tool. This proposal is designed to meet that need.  CHARTER: misc.education.virtualreality  Appropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of virtual     reality in schools for and by children in formal learning     situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for the use of virtual reality techniques     in education, information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of educational virtual reality technology     for cultural and informational exchange and health-related     information and support.  4.  Announcement of new educational virtual reality programs and     updates on established programs.  5.  Discussion of the use of educational virtual reality programs     for academic remediation and in special education.  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational virtual reality.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods for studying educational     virtual reality applications.  8.  Discussion of the ethics of virtual reality educational programs.  9.  To spread information about conferences, articles, calls     for papers and special issues of journals dealing with virtual     reality technology in the education field.  10. To point at and/or summarize discussions in related mailing     lists.  11. To discuss published articles related to the topic of the     newsgroup (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss safety, censorship, and privacy issues as they relate     to the topic of educational virtual reality.  13. To create a web site dedicated to the topic, which will include:          - a list/database with references/links to papers.         - links to homepages of researchers and projects.         - a FAQ.  Inappropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1)  Commercial advertising 2)  binaries 3)  flames, spams and trolls  END CHARTER.  IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION:  Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One vote per person, one vote per account.  Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post.  Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.  The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  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Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot.  When you're finished, mail the ballot to <[email protected]>.  Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.  If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote.  If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem.  You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly.  -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------------              Usenet Ballot: misc.education.virtualreality  This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes   |  Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the   |  marker here: votetaker.  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Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:     alt.education.alternative               k12.ed.comp    alt.education.disabled                  k12.ed.comp.literacy    alt.education.research                  k12.ed.lang    alt.mud.programming                     k12.ed.life-skills    alt.support.learning-difficulties       k12.ed.math    alt.support.learning-disab              k12.ed.science    misc.education.adult                    k12.ed.soc-studies    misc.education.home-school.christian    k12.ed.special    misc.education.home-school.misc         k12.ed.tag    misc.education.language.english         k12.ed.tech    misc.education.medical                  k12.lang    misc.education.multimedia               k12.lang.art    misc.education.science                  k12.library    misc.kids                               k12.math-ed    k12.chat                                k12.news    k12.chat.elemenatry                     k12.projects    k12.chat.ib                             k12.sys    k12.chat.junior                         schl.sig.k12admin    k12.chat.teacher                        schl.sig.lmnt    k12.council                             school.general    k12.ed                                  school.teachers    k12.ed.art  --  Rebecca Graham McQuitty  From [email protected] Wed Aug 27 21:15:09 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.education,alt.mud,misc.education Subject: RESULT: misc.education.virtualreality fails 118:28 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Supersedes: <[email protected]> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: misc.education.virtualreality Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 04:09:31 GMT Lines: 262 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:719                                  RESULT      unmoderated group misc.education.virtualreality fails 118:28  There were 118 YES votes and 28 NO votes, for a total of 146 valid votes.  There was 1 abstain.  For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes.  There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.  There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may not be voted on again for six months.  Newsgroups line: misc.education.virtualreality	Virtual reality as a teaching tool.  The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.  Proponent: Cleo Kiernan <[email protected]> Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty <[email protected]>  RATIONALE: misc.education.virtualreality  Text based virtual reality uses Moo/Mud/Mush programming technology to create interactive environments which can be used for educational purposes in and outside the classroom. It has two main features:  1) It is interactive in that it requires active participation by the student; and 2) It is extensible in that it enables programmers to create many different kinds of settings.  Most discussion of this type of programming takes place via "pages" from one Moo/Mud/Mush to another, on the various Moo/Mud/Mush games themselves, or in newsgroups dedicated mainly to the discussion of the Moo/Mud/Mush games and chat.  There is not yet a group dedicated to the discussion of this fast-growing and vital Internet resource for education, information, culture, research and support. There is a need to create such a group where parents and teachers can exchange ideas on the use of VR technology as a teaching tool. This proposal is designed to meet that need.  CHARTER: misc.education.virtualreality  Appropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1.  Advice for parents and teachers regarding the use of virtual     reality in schools for and by children in formal learning     situations.  2.  Problems with and ideas for the use of virtual reality techniques     in education, information, culture, research and support.  3.  Strategies for the use of educational virtual reality technology     for cultural and informational exchange and health-related     information and support.  4.  Announcement of new educational virtual reality programs and     updates on established programs.  5.  Discussion of the use of educational virtual reality programs     for academic remediation and in special education.  6.  Discussion of the programming, maintenance and pedagogy of     educational virtual reality.  7.  Discussion of theories and methods for studying educational     virtual reality applications.  8.  Discussion of the ethics of virtual reality educational programs.  9.  To spread information about conferences, articles, calls     for papers and special issues of journals dealing with virtual     reality technology in the education field.  10. To point at and/or summarize discussions in related mailing     lists.  11. To discuss published articles related to the topic of the     newsgroup (perhaps together with their authors).  12. To discuss safety, censorship, and privacy issues as they relate     to the topic of educational virtual reality.  13. To create a web site dedicated to the topic, which will include:          - a list/database with references/links to papers.         - links to homepages of researchers and projects.         - a FAQ.  Inappropriate postings would include, but not be limited to:  1)  Commercial advertising 2)  binaries 3)  flames, spams and trolls  END CHARTER.  misc.education.virtualreality Final Vote Ack  Voted Yes ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                      Grace McAndrew [email protected]                                                  Cleo Kiernan [email protected]                                                Amy Bruckman [email protected]                                                    David Avery [email protected]                                   Malcolm Loades [email protected]                                             Vic Bancroft [email protected]                                             Paul Bent Jr. [email protected]                        Gustavo Glusman [email protected]                                                   Brenda Ingis [email protected]                                            Jason Brinton [email protected]                                            Marc van Grootel [email protected]                                Carlos Luiz N. dos Santos [email protected]                                          Carne Powers [email protected]                                            Clark Richardson [email protected]                                     Rose Cooper [email protected]                                          Cynthia Haynes [email protected]                                         David England [email protected]                                             Dianne Lyons [email protected]                                                   Danny Porter [email protected]                                            Darryl L Smith [email protected]                                  David Zvi Lecin [email protected]                                  David Landowne [email protected]                                                   Drew Lyle [email protected]                                                Laura Dolson [email protected]                                               Doug Elias [email protected]                                       Craig Burley [email protected]                                             Ekkehard Uthke [email protected]                                                 Trish Thomas [email protected]                                                GRACE E. CROSS [email protected]                                            Greg Matheson [email protected]                                            Jean Bracke [email protected]                                                  Henrietta Thomas [email protected]                                       Heikki Wilenius [email protected]                              Jefferson M. Dubrule [email protected]                                             Jack Russell [email protected]                        Jonathan Peter Dryhurst Roberts [email protected]                                                    Jackie Small [email protected]                                    Jan Rune Holmevik [email protected]                                   Janet Turnbull [email protected]                                  Jeffery D. Hunt [email protected]                                          Julie Falsetti [email protected]                                     Jesus Eugenio Sanchez [email protected]                                       Phil Cohen [email protected]                              John VanBrandeghen [email protected]                                             Jerry Wemple [email protected]                                       Keith Bateson [email protected]                                Katalin Kish [email protected]                                                 Peggy Kern [email protected]                                                       Bryan Koen [email protected]                                            Kenneth Raaf [email protected]             Kevin Martin, Hughes Research Labs, Inc. [email protected]                                                       Brian Tew [email protected]                                                      Lea Curry [email protected]                                              Zev Leifer [email protected] [email protected]                                                  Lilith Adams [email protected]                                        Thomas Carson [email protected]                                       John Robertson [email protected]                                                Greg Robertson [email protected]                                          Lynne Hall [email protected]                                  John Towell Ph.D. [email protected]                                                Sean R. Malloy [email protected]                                Mark J. Mankowski [email protected]                                            Marianne Meisels [email protected]                                              Marie Westhaver [email protected]                                           Martin Robinson [email protected]                                              Brian Matheson [email protected]                                            Karen McComas [email protected]                                   Melanie Daniels [email protected]                                          elizabeth miller [email protected]                                                 Eric Mercer [email protected]                                          Darren Wyn Rees [email protected]                       Marcus Meissner [email protected]                                Mustafa Soysal MS57 [email protected]                                                  Carol Nahls [email protected]                                            Norbert Hoffmann [email protected]                                                Nick Waterman [email protected]                                                  Clem Padin [email protected]                                   Paul Bernhardt [email protected]                                             Trevor Tymchuk [email protected]                                          Philip Bernick [email protected]                                    Phyllis DeVries [email protected]                                             Sonja Utz [email protected]                                                 Erica Black [email protected]                                       Peter Rhodes [email protected]                                                  Danilo Curci [email protected]                                           Ruth Crawley [email protected]                                       Robert Gaimari [email protected]                                               Robert Adams [email protected]                                               T.L. Kelly [email protected]                                   Randall S. Willcox [email protected]                                                J Rufinus [email protected]                                                      rvilmi [email protected]                                                  Tom Peters [email protected] [email protected]                                      Richard H.C. Seabrook [email protected]                                         Sharon Roy [email protected]                                        Mark H. Shirley [email protected]                                            SKALLY WAGGONER [email protected]                                             Peter Soreanu [email protected]                                             Chris Stamper [email protected]                                           Stephen Hueners [email protected]                                            Thorild Selin [email protected]                                                      Baynon [email protected]                                             Kit Berger [email protected] [email protected]                                         Natalie Lewis [email protected]                                      Ullrich Raschke [email protected]                            Marj [email protected] [email protected]                                               Vickie Banks [email protected]                                            Vivian Rice [email protected]                                      William H. Hsu [email protected]                                                William Carter [email protected]                                        Wendy Frasca [email protected]                                             Rachel Wilson [email protected]                                                 Pat Williams [email protected]                                              Nathan F. Yospe [email protected]                                                Zeda Yudog  Voted No ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                            Martin H. Booda [email protected]                                     Chris Stone [email protected]                                              Chris Ebenezer [email protected]                                   Chuck Hoffmann [email protected]                                         David A. Howard [email protected]                                          Jeffrey David Cohen [email protected]                                                      Chris Hand [email protected]                                                   Don Ballard [email protected]                                            Geronimo Mockingbird [email protected]                                              Michael Murphy [email protected]                                                   Francis Uy [email protected]                                          G.P. Ryan [email protected]                                              Jules Dubois [email protected]                                                   Larry Smith [email protected]                                             Aaron Marquez [email protected]                                            Olav Nieuwejaar [email protected]                                          Patrick J. LoPresti [email protected]                                                     Red America [email protected]                                               Richard Miller [email protected]                                                 Bob blanchard [email protected]                            Georg Schwarz [email protected]                                                 Dwight Brown [email protected]                                           Jason Steiner [email protected]                                               Todd C. Lawson [email protected]                                                   Tony Basoglu [email protected]                                                    Vic Dura [email protected]                                      Risto Widenius [email protected]                                                Ned Fleming  Abstained ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [email protected]                                             Natalie Ramsey  --  Rebecca Graham McQuitty 
 
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