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From rrb@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu Fri Nov  5 22:08:36 1993
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From: rrb@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Bill Pfeiffer)
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Request For Discussion
New Newsgroup MISC.KIDS.VACATION
Status: Unmoderated

This is the preliminary request for discussion on the creation of a new
Usenet newsgroup dedicated to discussion of family-oriented vacationing.

** CHARTER AND GOAL **

	MISC.KIDS.VACATION would be a place for families, or anyone interested
	in family-style vacationing, to exchange thoughts, ideas,
	experiences, tips and information, with others of like interest.    

	The net has a LOT of family-oriented people on it.  A quick look at
	misc.kids' traffic level will confirm that.  I feel that this group
	will be equally successful.  Anyone with children knows that planning a
	family vacation is an entirely different beast than just 'the two of
	you' getting away.  The needs and goals are totally different.

	A newsgroup of this type could be a godsend, as family members across
	the net exchange their accounts of vacation that sailed, and those
	that, ...well... shall we say fell a little short <grin>.   People
	could find out about those 'lesser known' treasures that might get
	passed by, because (s)he just had not heard about it.  

	
** RATIONALE **

	There is currently no group on Usenet which addresses the proposed
	subject matter.   Misc.kids has high traffic already with parents
	engaged in all manner of discussion pertaining to raising their
	children.  Rec.travel exists, but is not primarily focused on the
	needs and issues of the family on vacation.

	Family matters are increasingly important in the world.  I
	believe that misc.kids.vacation would fit right in and be
	embraced by those who are so oriented.  
	
** NAMESPACE **

	I am not in any way committed to the choice of group name.  
	Although, I envision this group as more of an extension of misc.kids,
	that of rec.travel, I did consider the name rec.travel.family.
        Whatever the name, it is the group that I feel should be
	created, not a name.   I feel that misc.kids.vacation is
	probably the best name for such an endeavor, but am not
	committed to any specific name, if rationale can be offered
	that another fits the charter better.   All I ask is that we
	don't tie the proposal up in endless bickering over the name.

This proposal is not meant as a reorg of misc.kids, but a supplement
to an already fine newsgroup.  

All discussion should take place in news.groups.  I welcome anyone who
wishes to write to me personally as well.  I hope this group is
successful.  I also hope the net agrees.

Bill
wdp@uiuc.edu

From rrb@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu Tue Nov 16 16:41:31 1993
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From: rrb@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Bill Pfeiffer)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.kids.vacation
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*Second* Request For Discussion <RFD>
New Newsgroup MISC.KIDS.VACATION
Status: Unmoderated

This is the second and *expanded* request for discussion on the
creation of a new Usenet newsgroup dedicated to family-oriented
vacationing. Please read this even if you read the first RFD, it is
different.  At the end (under the heading ** VOTING **) is a brief
explanation on what is required to pass the group, for those not
already familiar with the procedure.


** CHARTER AND GOAL **

	MISC.KIDS.VACATION would be a place for everyone who is interested in
	family-style vacationing to exchange thoughts, experiences, tips and
	information, with others of like interest.   

	The net has a LOT of family-oriented people on it.  A quick look at
	misc.kids' traffic level will confirm that.  I feel that this group
	will be equally successful.  Anyone with children knows that planning a
	family vacation is an entirely different beast than just 'the two of
	you' getting away.  The needs and goals are totally different.

	A newsgroup of this type could be a godsend, as family members across
	the net exchange their accounts of vacation that sailed, and those
	that, ...well... shall we say fell a little short <grin>.   People
	could find out about those 'lesser known' treasures that might get
	passed by, because they just had not heard about it.  
       
Why 'misc.kids' and not 'rec.travel'?

	This question was mentioned a couple of times since the first
	RFD came out.  

	While it seems logical to place a 'vacation' group in the 'travel'
	namespace, I (and several others who have commented) see
	misc.kids.vacation to be more of an 'extension of the family,' than
	an 'extension of the act of travel'.  

	Misc.kids is more than a newsgroup.  It is a community of
	parents and other significant adults, who pool their knowledge
	and understandings in the area of raising kids.  It is like having
	a thousand 'best friends' who have many approaches to a common theme.
	The kinds of discussions which go on in misc.kids are not
	found in any other location on the net. 

	It is also a very high volume newsgroup, with an equally high
	signal-to-noise ratio.  There are very few flame wars, despite the 
	many and varied opinions.  In general, the posts are respectful,
	insightful and very germain to the subjects at hand.
	
	Misc.kids.vacation is a natural extension of that environment.

	Family vacations are more than simply a matter of "going to
	X-location with the kids".  Family vacations are part of the
	family dynamic and many see them as integral parts of the overall
	raising of their children.  Family vacations do not have to
	entail a great deal of travel.  Also, (as one respondent put it)
	"... you are unlikely to find the kinds of tips in rec.travel,
	that one already finds in the misc.kids group, such as
	how to change a diaper on an airplane...' [Paraphrased]. 
	
	Misc.kids.vacation will be dedicated to in-depth discussions
	of all forms of family vacationing, whether or not such plans involve
	extensive travel.  From the BIG extravaganza's (like Disneyland, 
	et-al) to 'alternative' ideas for family get-away fun of a
	more personal and explorative nature, like camping, hiking, or
	what-have-you. From skydiving over the Andes, to the weekend
	in the woods, it will open up the doors of communication,
	choices, input, ideas and brainstorming with those who have
	actually been there <grin>.  Remember, before there was Disneyland,
	there were families... and those families took vacations.
	Misc.kids.vacation would offer a forum to get back in touch with
	those sorts of ideas.	 

** RATIONALE **

	There is currently no group on Usenet which addresses the proposed
	subject matter.   Misc.kids has high traffic already with parents
	engaged in all manner of discussion pertaining to raising their
	children.  

	Family matters are increasingly important in the world.  I
	believe that misc.kids.vacation would fit right in and be
	embraced by those who are so oriented.  

This proposal is not meant as a reorg of misc.kids, but a supplement
to an already fine newsgroup.  

Thanks for your time.  I am available to answer any questions you
might have, or you may post them to news.groups or the group you are
reading this in.   

I hope the net will allow this proposal to pass.


** VOTING ** (General, for those who are unfamiliar with Usenet voting)

	On December 5, 1993 this proposal will go to a vote (Called
	a CFV, call for votes).  At that time you will be asked to
	send in your email vote, either for or against the proposal
	as it has been presented.  

	One vote is allowed per person, not per-account.  So if you
	have 5 news and mail accounts, you still may only vote once.

	The voting continues for about 30 days.  After that the votes
	are counted.  In order to create this group, it *MUST* have
	100 more yes votes than no votes *AND* it must have  a 2/3
	majority of yes votes to no votes.  

	Therefore, it is very important that you vote.  It only takes
	a few seconds of your time and it does matter.  Unless the
	proposal gets the required margins and numbers of votes, it
	will fail.  

	If you would like to be notified of the impending CFV, when it
	is about to be started, and told where to mail your vote,
	either look periodically in the group in which this note appears, or
	write me and I will email you with the information as the date
	draws nearer.  You need not tell me how you are going to vote
	in order to be placed on the notification list.

Have a good one.

William Pfeiffer
wdp@uiuc.edu

From rdippold@qualcomm.com Thu Dec  2 16:59:45 1993
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		 unmoderated group misc.kids.vacation
 
Newsgroups line:
misc.kids.vacation	Discussion on all forms of family-oriented vacationing.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 January 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be posted to
the Branson Chat mailing list (branson.chat@airwaves.chi.il.us) by the
proponent. 

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group contact William Pfeiffer <wdp@uiuc.edu>.


CHARTER

misc.kids.vacation will be dedicated to in-depth discussions of all
forms of family vacationing, whether or not such plans involve
extensive travel.
 
>From the BIG extravaganza's to the weekend in the woods, it will open
up the doors of communication for those who have 'alternative' ideas
for family get-away fun.  From the commercial vacations like Disney*
or Sea World, to those of a more personal and explorative nature,like
camping, hiking, or what-have-you. misc.kids.vacation will offer
choices, input, ideas and brainstorming between those who have
actually been there <grin>.  It will offer a special place for those
who would like to do 'something different' together.  Remember, before
there was Disneyland, there were families, and those families took
vacations <grin>.  misc.kids.vacation would offer a place to get back
in touch with those sorts of ideas.
        
A newsgroup of this type could be a godsend, as family members across
the net and around the world, exchange their accounts of vacation that
sailed, and those that, ...well... shall we say fell a little short
<grin>.  People could find out about those 'lesser known' treasures
that might get passed by, because (s)he just had not heard about it.
Some of the best things in life are not advertised.
 
misc.kids.vacation will act as an information link between families of
different nations, who plan on vacationing across borders and
overseas, and are interested in learning about attractions which may
be common knowledge in a given nation, but unknown elsewhere.
 
The existing misc.kids is more than a newsgroup.  It is a community of
parents and other significant adults, who pool their knowledge and
understandings in the area of raising kids.  It is like having a
thousand 'best friends' with many approaches to a common theme.
misc.kids.vacation is a natural extension of that environment.
 
Note: This proposal is not meant as a reorg of misc.kids, but a
supplement to an already fine newsgroup.



HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   voting@qualcomm.com

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on misc.kids.vacation
      I vote NO on misc.kids.vacation

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From rdippold@qualcomm.com Tue Dec 14 14:23:50 1993
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.kids.vacation
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		      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		 unmoderated group misc.kids.vacation

Newsgroups line:
misc.kids.vacation	Discussion on all forms of family-oriented vacationing.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 January 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be posted to
the Branson Chat mailing list (branson.chat@airwaves.chi.il.us) by the
proponent. 

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group contact William Pfeiffer <wdp@uiuc.edu>.


CHARTER

misc.kids.vacation will be dedicated to in-depth discussions of all
forms of family vacationing, whether or not such plans involve
extensive travel.
 
>From the BIG extravaganza's to the weekend in the woods, it will open
up the doors of communication for those who have 'alternative' ideas
for family get-away fun.  From the commercial vacations like Disney*
or Sea World, to those of a more personal and explorative nature,like
camping, hiking, or what-have-you. misc.kids.vacation will offer
choices, input, ideas and brainstorming between those who have
actually been there <grin>.  It will offer a special place for those
who would like to do 'something different' together.  Remember, before
there was Disneyland, there were families, and those families took
vacations <grin>.  misc.kids.vacation would offer a place to get back
in touch with those sorts of ideas.
        
A newsgroup of this type could be a godsend, as family members across
the net and around the world, exchange their accounts of vacation that
sailed, and those that, ...well... shall we say fell a little short
<grin>.  People could find out about those 'lesser known' treasures
that might get passed by, because (s)he just had not heard about it.
Some of the best things in life are not advertised.
 
misc.kids.vacation will act as an information link between families of
different nations, who plan on vacationing across borders and
overseas, and are interested in learning about attractions which may
be common knowledge in a given nation, but unknown elsewhere.
 
The existing misc.kids is more than a newsgroup.  It is a community of
parents and other significant adults, who pool their knowledge and
understandings in the area of raising kids.  It is like having a
thousand 'best friends' with many approaches to a common theme.
misc.kids.vacation is a natural extension of that environment.
 
Note: This proposal is not meant as a reorg of misc.kids, but a
supplement to an already fine newsgroup.



HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   voting@qualcomm.com

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on misc.kids.vacation
      I vote NO on misc.kids.vacation

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

misc.kids.vacation group vote Bounce Ack List - no need to revote
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elena@cruzio.com
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From rdippold@qualcomm.com Mon Jan  3 17:49:54 1994
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From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: RESULT: misc.kids.vacation passes 291:46
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       unmoderated misc.kids.vacation group vote passes 291:46
 
There were 291 YES votes and 46 NO votes, for a total of 337 valid
votes.  There were 2 invalid ballots.
 
For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES
and NO) votes.  There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO
votes.  Thus, the group passes.
 
There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.
 

Newsgroups line:
misc.kids.vacation	Discussion on all forms of family-oriented vacationing.


This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com.  For questions about the
proposed group contact William Pfeiffer <wdp@uiuc.edu>.


CHARTER

misc.kids.vacation will be dedicated to in-depth discussions of all
forms of family vacationing, whether or not such plans involve
extensive travel.
 
>From the BIG extravaganza's to the weekend in the woods, it will open
up the doors of communication for those who have 'alternative' ideas
for family get-away fun.  From the commercial vacations like Disney*
or Sea World, to those of a more personal and explorative nature,like
camping, hiking, or what-have-you. misc.kids.vacation will offer
choices, input, ideas and brainstorming between those who have
actually been there <grin>.  It will offer a special place for those
who would like to do 'something different' together.  Remember, before
there was Disneyland, there were families, and those families took
vacations <grin>.  misc.kids.vacation would offer a place to get back
in touch with those sorts of ideas.
        

misc.kids.vacation group vote Mass Ack
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CHANDLER@stsci.edu                                                       nancy
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cicconi@ltssg3.epfl.ch                                                 cicconi
cjp@megatek.com                                                 Chris J. Pikus
ckk@uchicago.edu                                    Christopher K. Koenigsberg
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cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov                              John R. Cobarruvias
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d.weber@ldb.han.de                                                  Dirk Weber
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dave@bcl.co.nz                                                      Dave Green
davej@teleport.com                                             Dave J. Johnsen
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dzhang3@ua1ix.ua.edu                                            Dongdong Zhang
egstein@husc.harvard.edu                                                      
elena@cruzio.com                                                  Elena Guerin
enbody@cps.msu.edu                                                            
EPWare@world.std.com                                         elaine l benfatto
estier@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu                                      Ellen Stier
eugened@sybase.com                                                 Eugene Ding
exupgsh@exu.ericsson.se                                          Paula Shelton
FACSCHAEFER@ric.edu                                          James A. Schaefer
fcbryan@ucdavis.edu                                              Felicia Bryan
floom@cco.caltech.edu                                           Laura E. Floom
franklig@GAS.uug.Arizona.EDU                                Gregory C Franklin
FRIDL@QUCDN.QueensU.CA                                                   LINDA
fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu                                  Sean P. Ryan
gabe@angus.mystery.com                                              Gabe Helou
GAFINLEY@ac.dal.ca                                                Allen Finley
geli@risc.austin.ibm.com                                          Vijaya M. K.
gfitzmau@sparkplug.CV.COM                             George Fitzmaurice x6114
gflowers@cognex.com                                               Gail Flowers
ggw@acpub.duke.edu                                         G. "Wolfe" Woodbury
gibbsm@ll.mit.edu                                             MargAret D Gibbs
glauer@gte.com                                                Gregory S. Lauer
glick@midas.mtkgc.com                                              Mark Sappol
goldmagj@sun.aitc.rest.tasc.com                                Greg J. Goldman
gt0670e@prism.gatech.edu                                                      
hagg@scf.usc.edu                                                     Peter Pan
HamilMG1@bisdpo1.bisdnet.jhuapl.edu                                           
hanna@esvax.dnet.dupont.com                                                   
harry@waldron.stanford.edu                                       Harry Bahlman
hcap108@kcu4.att.com                                                          
heichman@vt.edu                                              Colin R. Heichman
Henri.Lubke@sundsvall.trab.se                                      Henri L~bke
HMH01%ALBNYDH2.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU                                       
hoepner@fokus.gmd.de                                                          
HRWRIGHT@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU                                                  
hskarkka@snakemail.hut.fi                                                     
hyler@ast.saic.com                                                 Buffy Hyler
idt@ornl.gov                                                Russell W. Schmidt
IEBF94S@TJUVM.TJU.EDU                                          Craig Doerrmann
inho@romeo.caltech.edu                                                Inho Lee
isa@universe.digex.net                                     Isabelle Fetherston
J.C.Niestern@research.ptt.nl                                    Hanke Niestern
J035470@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com                                            
jamantle@maplesoft.on.ca                                            Jim Mantle
jbouwens@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com                                Judy Bouwens
jcook@Fox.nstn.ns.ca                                               Joanne Cook
JDAWE@TrentU.ca                                                               
jdehls@credit.erin.utoronto.ca                                      John Dehls
jdl@jaguar.larc.nasa.gov                                      James D. Lambeth
jeff@gondor.unify.Unify.Com                                   Jeff Mischkinsky
jensen@peruvian.cs.utah.edu                                      travis jensen
jepler@herbie.unl.edu                                               Jeff Epler
jgassman@bio.ri.ccf.org                                       Jennifer Gassman
jgt10@netcom.com                                              John G. Thompson
jill@sol.asl.hitachi.com                                            Jill Boyce
jin@hpdblpy.cup.hp.com                                            Jin Buchanan
JIS@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu                                  UF-IFAS Computer Network
JL.KGR@ISUMVS.IASTATE.EDU                                       Karen Roughton
jmc@hal.com                                                     Jerry McCollom
jmm32@po.cwru.edu                                              Jason M. Miller
joea@mhcnet.att.com                                                           
john@uhs1.uhs.uga.edu                                          John D. Hopkins
johnz@informix.com                                               John Zucchero
JOPIRIE@vaxsar.vassar.edu                                                     
jrm@globalvillag.com                            John "Fax This!" MacWilliamson
julian@bongo.tele.com                                          Julian Macassey
kah@lock60.Schuylkill.Canal.ORG                                    Katie Hynes
kale@asmsun.larc.nasa.gov                                                     
kanze@us-es.sel.de                                                 James Kanze
karen@ankh-morpork.hacktic.nl                                      Karen Plomp
karen@hal.com                                                    Karen Muldrow
karl@meaddata.com                                                   Karl Mitze
kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM                                          Kayvan Sylvan
kdennis@io.org                                                                
kdion@library.umass.edu                                          KATHLEEN DION
kellihmt@ausable.crd.ge.com                                Margaret T Kelliher
kent@biosym.com                                                    Kent Brisby
kevinmac@ll.mit.edu                                           Kevin McElearney
kgatling@mailbox.syr.edu                                       Keith E Gatling
kirk@bnr.ca                                               kirk (t.k.) mckibbon
kk1m@ISL1.RI.CMU.EDU                                                          
koenig@uicc.com                                                     Tom Koenig
koopman@casun2.res.utc.com                                      Philip Koopman
kurt@aaahq05.aaa.com                                               Kurt Kessel
kwolf@choate.edu                                                              
L15D@ZFN.uni-bremen.de                                        Martin Schroeder
larson@minerva.sws.uiuc.edu                                         Bob Larson
las@ai.mit.edu                                               Lynn Andrea Stein
lchirlia@cc.brynmawr.edu                                       Chirlian Lisa E
ldewolf@ads.com                                                    Lori DeWolf
lementec@asuka.aerospace-lab.go.jp                             Jean-Christophe
let@wdl.loral.com                                               Lance Thornley
letha@cirrus.com                                                Letha Saldanha
lhartten@papeeha.al.bldrdoc.gov                                 Leslie Hartten
liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz                                       Liam Greenwood
liese@iac.net                                                 Liese McCullough
lin@pender.ee.upenn.edu                                         Sheng-Yuan Lin
lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us                                           Gerry Swetsky
lkinard@salzo.Cary.NC.US                                          Lyric Kinard
loewenst@spdc.ti.com                                           Lee Loewenstein
lois@ingres.com                                                     Lois Price
lonadar@judy.indstate.edu                                 Lonadar the Wanderer
lrhold@bb1t.monsanto.com                                          L. R. Holden
L_Y_Hamrick%CAASD1@mwmgate1.mitre.org                                         
m19701@mitre.org                                                 Dragon Slayer
madrone@cruzio.com                                             Heather Madrone
markco@lauto.lmc.com                                              Mark Collins
martin.soques@amd.com                                            Martin Soques
mary@misty.anasazi.com                                                        
may@edb.tih.no                                              May Helen Lien,TIH
mayo@cs.utk.edu                                                               
mccabe@gdls.com                                                  Harold McCabe
mccluerj@acgs.com                                                 John McCluer
mcooper@unixg.ubc.ca                                               Mike Cooper
mdc@tamarack.cray.com                                               Mark Conty
meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu                                         Yigal Meir
MEISNER@MAINE.maine.edu                                          Eddie Meisner
melissa@spanky.jpl.nasa.gov                                     Melissa Probst
mendicot@igc.apc.org                                                          
menon@beagle.Colorado.EDU                                           Ravi Menon
MIBROOKS@delphi.com                                                           
Michal.Jankowski@fuw.edu.pl                                                   
michele@freya.cs.umass.edu                                       M. A. Roberts
miles@mbs.telesys.utexas.edu                                   Miles Abernathy
milton@picard.med.miami.edu                                  H. Milton Johnson
mjfath@midway.uchicago.edu                                   Michael John Fath
mjhf@troi.cc.rochester.edu                                       M.J. Horsfall
MMERRI%ESOC.BITNET@vm.gmd.de                                       Mario Merri
mmoran@Arco.COM                                       Mike Moran (214)754-6622
mmt@RedBrick.COM                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
monc+@pitt.edu                                                Monica L. Murphy
morse@hogpa.ho.att.com                                           Linda M Morse
morten.steinhauer@thcave.bbs.no                              Morten Steinhauer
mrp@world.std.com                                            Marjorie R Peskin
msh@world.std.com                                              Mark S Halperin
mstern@lindsay.Princeton.EDU                                  Marlene J. Stern
mtw@anubis.network.com                                 Marguerite Watson x2762
mwalker@godfather.East.Sun.COM                  Michele Walker - SunExpress IR
mwalker@taimyr.Colorado.EDU                                                   
mylene@ee.uwa.edu.au                                            Mylene Pijpers
n36c@pnet16.cts.com                                               Rm1 Straight
nathan@bert.cs.byu.edu                                     Nathan Christiansen
ndallen@io.org                                                                
nol2105@dsacg2.dsac.dla.mil                                Robert E. Zabloudil
nrc@cbnews.att.com                                                            
NRNOBLE@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU                                      Nick  Noble
nsmith@sassy.micro.ti.com                                           Neal Smith
nsw1@Ra.MsState.Edu                                          Natalie S. Wooten
odell@iwcae.att.com                                                           
offer@mamba.asg.arlut.utexas.edu                                  Debora Offer
OISPEGGY@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu                                                 
olsen@hing.LCS.MIT.EDU                                             James Olsen
oneil@aio.jsc.nasa.gov                                           Graham O'Neil
pagan@DPW.COM                                                      Kathy Pagan
paintre@u.washington.edu                                                  Kipp
palmerm@CERF.NET                                             L. Merrill Palmer
pbachrac@son1.nur.uth.tmc.edu                                   Patti Bachrach
pburch@cmb.bcm.tmc.edu                                          Paula E. Burch
peri@cco.caltech.edu                                          Michal Leah Peri
pfeifer@fokus.gmd.de                                               Tom Pfeifer
phillips@bright.uoregon.edu                                     Chris Phillips
phoffman@netcom.com                                            Paul E. Hoffman
psains@sunbird.ru.ac.za                                         Paul Sainsbury
pstowne@zargon.lerc.nasa.gov                                     Charlie Towne
quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU                                   Michael J. Quinn
raj@erc-sparc.mc.duke.edu                                    Rajesh Pendekanti
raterman@compusci.com                                          Elaine Raterman
rbeck@ra.csc.ti.com                                                   Ron Beck
rcalabre@everglades.MOTOWN.GE.COM                               Rich Calabrese
rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu                                              Robert Cook
rdas@crl.com                                                         Robin Das
reese@watson.ibm.com                                            Diane E. Reese
revu@midway.uchicago.edu                                      Sendhil Revuluri
rgelman@lehman.com                                               Rachel Gelman
RGTAYLOR@ualr.edu                                                             
rick@bcm.tmc.edu                                             Richard H. Miller
rickc@sugar.NeoSoft.Com                                          Rick Campbell
rickm@pdn.paradyne.com                                          Rick Mundwiler
rjh@bull.vet.purdue.edu                                              Rita Hilt
rmandel@acs.bu.edu                                              Richard Mandel
rob.lewis@stashu.com                                                 Rob Lewis
roger@vmark.com                                                 Roger MacNicol
rogl@Glue.umd.edu                                 Roger Owen Gordon Longenbach
rolfe@ldp.com                                                     Rolfe Tessem
Ronald.L.Hiser@Dartmouth.EDU                                   Ronald L. Hiser
rrb@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu                                        Bill Pfeiffer
ruth@twoboys.cen.encompass.com                                      Becky Ruth
rwu@fig.citib.com                                                   Raymond Wu
rzm1@internet01.comp.pge.com                                    Rick Z. Martyn
SAAST8@vms.cis.pitt.edu                                                       
sadavis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov                                     Jose M. Davis
sam@terapin.com                                                    Sam (SysOp)
sarge@acdca.itt.com                                                Bob Heddles
sascqb@unx.sas.com                                                Cheryl Brown
schwenk@iexist.att.com                                                        
scott.hansohn@inst.medtronic.com                                 Scott Hansohn
scottm@crsa.bu.edu                                              Scott Macomber
Scott_Finley@smtpgateway.cc.nih.gov                               Scott Finley
shane@spr.com                                                    Shane Hartman
SHIEL@sscl.uwo.ca                                                      Suzanne
shimeall@cs.nps.navy.mil                                      timothy shimeall
skejriwa@donald.wichitaks.NCR.COM                             Sangita Kejriwal
slecomte@io.org                                                  Steve Lecomte
slewis@ncsa.uiuc.edu                                                 Sue Lewis
sloane@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu                                  Thomas Sloane
sls@romulus.cray.com                             Steven Scott  {x68440 CF/DEV}
smarry@io.org                                                     Smarasderagd
statar@intgp1.att.com                                                         
steinle@dfki.uni-kl.de                                                        
stevee@cygnus.sps.mot.com                                    Stephen Elmendorf
stevens@stsci.edu                                              Mark A. Stevens
stevew@hpwarln.wal.hp.com                                        Steve Weisner
Steve_Lammert@transarc.com                                                    
stoc@troi.cc.rochester.edu                                       Alan Stockman
straubjp@sun.aitc.rest.tasc.com                                 John P. Straub
stu@valinor.mythical.com                                          Stu Labovitz
stuart@beagle.Colorado.EDU                                  Kathleen F. Stuart
swildner@channelz.gun.de                                        Sascha Wildner
tbenson@sysplan.com                                                 Tim Benson
TCAE6@ISUVAX.IASTATE.EDU                                                 DUSTY
teresak%ssbell@sterling.com                                                 TK
terrell@ono.geg.mot.com                                    Bruce Terrell x8271
terry@tyrell.net                                                  Terry McDill
Thomas.Brunner@Eng.Sun.COM                           Eric Brunner (Contractor)
tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM                                           Grace Sylvan
tiira@fidac.Helsinki.FI                                             Timo Tiira
Timo.Rinne@hut.fi                                                   Timo Rinne
tml@ornl.gov                                                       Terry  Depp
trob@Cybernetics.COM                                                 Rob Wyatt
tseng@oasys.dt.navy.mil                                            Carol Tseng
uc924@freenet.victoria.bc.ca                                    David A. Logan
uhlerc@uclink.berkeley.edu                            Courtney Elizabeth Uhler
usr8578a@tso.uc.EDU                                               Glenn Burton
vabella@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu                                 Vincent J. Abella
van-3@bones.biochem.ualberta.ca                                    Darren Fast
VBOCK@delphi.com                                                              
venky@utdallas.edu                                               S. Venkatesan
virgil@csn.org                                                   Virgil Turner
VLDAUGHE@CC.OWU.EDU                                                           
vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@xnet.com                                                  
vunovick@netcom.com                                        Varda Ullman Novick
wang@optigfx.com                                                    Alice Wang
watkins@hsi.com                                                   Carl Watkins
watrous@cs.rutgers.edu                                             Don Watrous
weber@answer.com                                                   Randy Weber
wiebe@goliath.ae.utexas.edu                                    Anne Hill Wiebe
wight@wal.hp.com                                                   Nancy Wight
willis@niuhep.phys.niu.edu      Sue Willis - NIU 815-753-0667, D0 708-840-8131
winner@apple.com                                              Stephanie Winner
wrh@ferrari.da.hh.ab.com                                          Bill R. Hall
wsm0@Lehigh.EDU                                                  Wayne S. Mery
XWILTBERGER%DENEB.decnet@arecibo.aero.org                   DENEB::XWILTBERGER
xxaj547@chpc.utexas.edu                                                       


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