From [email protected] Wed Apr  7 11:44:11 1993
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From: [email protected] (Mau Napoleon)
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Subject: RFD: comp.databases.access
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Date: 6 Apr 1993 12:31:14 -0400
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This is an official RFD for the creation of a new newsgroup for the
general discussion of the Microsoft Access RDMS.

NAME: COMP.DATABASES.ACCESS

MODERATION: UNMODERATED. At this time, no need for a moderator has been
assertained. Future evaluation will determine if one is needed.

PURPOSE: 
Access is a new RDBMS for the Windows Operating System. It includes WYSIWYG
design tools for easy creation of tables, reports, forms and queries and a
database programming language called Access Basic.
THe purpose of the group will be to provide help to people who use Access's 
WYSIWYG design tools to create simple databases as well as to people who use 
Access Basic to create complex databases.

RATIONALE:
Eventhough Access is a new RDBMS, it is very popular because of its Graphical
Development enviroment and its initial low price.
Been a version 1.0 product means that all Access users are Novices.
For that reason a newsgroup is needed where Access users can discuss 
their experiences with the product and answer each other's questions.
-- 
Napoleon
[email protected]

From [email protected] Fri Apr 16 10:39:27 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Mau Napoleon)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.databases.ms-access
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Date: 15 Apr 1993 18:07:05 -0400
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This is the 2nd Reguest for Discussion ( RFD ) for the creation of 
comp.databases.ms-access 

The discussion period started on April 6 and it will last until April 28,
( 22 days ).

This is an official RFD for the creation of a new newsgroup for the
general discussion of the Microsoft Access RDMS.

NAME: COMP.DATABASES.MS-ACCESS

MODERATION: UNMODERATED. At this time, no need for a moderator has been
assertained. Future evaluation will determine if one is needed.

PURPOSE: 
Access is a new RDBMS for the Windows Operating System. It includes WYSIWYG
design tools for easy creation of tables, reports, forms and queries and a
database programming language called Access Basic.
THe purpose of the group will be to provide help to people who use Access's 
WYSIWYG design tools to create simple databases as well as to people who use 
Access Basic to create complex databases.

RATIONALE:
Eventhough Access is a new RDBMS, it is very popular because of its Graphical
Development enviroment and its initial low price.
Been a version 1.0 product means that all Access users are Novices.
For that reason a newsgroup is needed where Access users can discuss 
their experiences with the product and answer each other's questions.
-- 
Napoleon
[email protected]

From [email protected] Thu May  6 15:01:18 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Mau Napoleon)
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Subject: CFV: comp.databases.ms-access
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Date: 4 May 1993 19:46:41 -0400
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This is an official Call for Vote CFV for the creation of a new newsgroup 
for the general discussion of the Microsoft Access RDMS.

NAME: comp.databases.ms-access

MODERATION: UNMODERATED. At this time, no need for a moderator has been
assertained. Future evaluation will determine if one is needed.

CHARTER: 
Access is a new RDBMS for the Windows Operating System. It includes WYSIWYG
design tools for easy creation of tables, reports, forms and queries and a
database programming language called Access Basic.
THe purpose of the group will be to provide help to people who use Access's 
WYSIWYG design tools to create simple databases as well as to people who use 
Access Basic to create complex databases.

VOTING INSTRUCTIONS

VOTING

The voting period will begin when this CFV is posted. It will end
on June 4th, 1993 at 23:59 EDT. According to the USENET rules, in
order for the group to be created, at least 2/3 of the votes cast
must be YES votes, and there must be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.
     
To vote please mail to the following address
     
         [email protected]

The SUBJECT LINE of the message should be.
YES COMP.DATABASES.MS-ACCESS 

or 

NO COMP.DATABASES.MS-ACCESS

whichever is appropriate.


The BODY of the message should contain either the line

       "I vote for comp.databases.ms-access as proposed"
or

      "I vote against comp.databases.ms-access as proposed"



Email messages sent to the above address must constitute unambiguous
and unconditional votes for/against newsgroup creation as proposed.
Conditional votes will not be accepted.  Votes emailed to the above
address will be counted.  The wording does not have to be exact, but
it helps make the tallying easier.

In the event that more than one vote is placed by an individual, 
only the most recent vote will be counted.  

Please include your full name if your mailer doesn't do this for you.

Additional CFV's will be posted during the course of the
vote, along with acknowledgments of those votes received to date.
No information will be supplied as to how people are voting until
the final acknowledgment is made at the end, at which time the
full vote will be made public.

SCHEDULE

This CFV was issued on May 3rd, and the voting period will end on
June 4th, 1993 at 23:59 EDT.

Thank you for your participation.
-- 
Napoleon
[email protected]

From [email protected] Wed May 26 17:08:18 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Mau Napoleon)
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Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: comp.databases.ms-access
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Date: 20 May 1993 11:42:17 -0400
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This is an official Call for Vote CFV for the creation of a new newsgroup 
for the general discussion of the Microsoft Access RDMS.

It is also a mass acknowledgement of votes received. At the end of the message
you will find a list of all people who voted until May 19th at 12:00 US Central
Time.  If your name or account are not included in that list please vote again.

NAME: comp.databases.ms-access

MODERATION: UNMODERATED. At this time, no need for a moderator has been
assertained. Future evaluation will determine if one is needed.

CHARTER: 
Access is a new RDBMS for the Windows Operating System. It includes WYSIWYG
design tools for easy creation of tables, reports, forms and queries and a
database programming language called Access Basic.
THe purpose of the group will be to provide help to people who use Access's 
WYSIWYG design tools to create simple databases as well as to people who use 
Access Basic to create complex databases.

VOTING INSTRUCTIONS

VOTING

The voting period will begin when this CFV is posted. It will end
on June 4th, 1993 at 23:59 EDT. According to the USENET rules, in
order for the group to be created, at least 2/3 of the votes cast
must be YES votes, and there must be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.
     
To vote please mail to the following address
     
         [email protected]

The SUBJECT LINE of the message should be.
YES COMP.DATABASES.MS-ACCESS 

or 

NO COMP.DATABASES.MS-ACCESS

whichever is appropriate.


The BODY of the message should contain either the line

       "I vote for comp.databases.ms-access as proposed"
or

      "I vote against comp.databases.ms-access as proposed"



Email messages sent to the above address must constitute unambiguous
and unconditional votes for/against newsgroup creation as proposed.
Conditional votes will not be accepted.  Votes emailed to the above
address will be counted.  The wording does not have to be exact, but
it helps make the tallying easier.

In the event that more than one vote is placed by an individual, 
only the most recent vote will be counted.  

Please include your full name if your mailer doesn't do this for you.

Additional CFV's will be posted during the course of the
vote, along with acknowledgments of those votes received to date.
No information will be supplied as to how people are voting until
the final acknowledgment is made at the end, at which time the
full vote will be made public.

SCHEDULE

This CFV was issued on May 3rd, and the voting period will end on
June 4th, 1993 at 23:59 EDT.

Thank you for your participation.
-- 
Napoleon
[email protected]

The following are the votes received until May 19th 12:00 US Central Time,
I think it is 17:00 UTC. I have not removed multiple votes.
If you do not see your name or address in this list please resubmitt your vote.

Another mass ack will be posted at about June 1st.


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From [email protected] Fri Jun 11 15:56:47 1993
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Mau Napoleon)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.databases,comp.os.ms-windows.announce,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: RESULT: comp.databases.ms-access passes 268:45
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Date: 11 Jun 1993 15:13:48 -0400
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This is the final vote count for COMP.DATABASES.MS-ACCESS. 313 valid
votes were received by June 4th. Of these 45 were No votes and 268 were
YES votes.

Please check the list to see if your vote has been registered. If not
please send mail to [email protected].

Thank you for participating.

NO VOTES (45)

 4 May  18:58:20	[email protected] (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
 4 May  20:41:47	[email protected] (Apostolos Karmirantzos)
 4 May  21:11:00	[email protected] (Larry Weeks)
 4 May  21:11:25	[email protected] (Chris Marble)
 5 May  00:10:00	[email protected] (Jay W. Noh)
 5 May  00:32:31	[email protected] ()
 5 May  07:24:02	[email protected] (Paul S. Kedrosky)
 5 May  09:01:26	[email protected] (Glyn Simpson)
 5 May  09:38:58	[email protected] (Sean Dowd)
 5 May  09:49:01	[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
 5 May  09:59:44	[email protected] (Bill Owens)
 5 May  10:00:58	[email protected] (Leonard J. Peirce)
 5 May  11:38:37	[email protected] (gt2011a SIMMS,WILLIAM SHELDON)
 5 May  11:47:00	[email protected] (Andrew Bennett)
 5 May  11:49:19	[email protected] (Daniel Zirin)
 5 May  12:49:05	[email protected] (Jurgen Botz)
 5 May  12:56:27	[email protected] (Herbert M Petro)
 5 May  13:31:49	[email protected] (Mike Timbol)
 5 May  15:29:00	[email protected] ()
 5 May  16:02:09	[email protected] (Malcolm Austin)
 5 May  18:47:41	aland@ten_forward.informix.com (Alan Denney)
 6 May  01:56:20	[email protected] (Hardcore Alaskan)
 6 May  03:33:00	[email protected] (Chip Rosenthal)
 6 May  10:12:51	[email protected] (Ahmed Al-Ashabb)
 6 May  14:29:45	[email protected] (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
 6 May  23:41:04	pseudo!mjn (Murray Nesbitt)
 7 May  14:34:57	[email protected] (Chris Payne - Surfer)
 7 May  17:56:31	[email protected] ()
 8 May  14:53:24	[email protected] ()
10 May  04:52:36	[email protected] (Marc Moorcroft)
12 May  23:05:00	[email protected] (Neklan Brozensky)
15 May  06:57:29	[email protected] (Chua Hak Lien)
17 May  18:30:42	[email protected] (Bill Chin)
18 May  10:42:11	[email protected] ( (Stouder Alain))
20 May  09:35:15	[email protected] (Eric J. Olson)
20 May  22:14:18	[email protected] (Joel Furr)
21 May  12:10:27	[email protected] (Renato Ghica)
21 May  16:35:46	[email protected] (Mark Wick)
21 May  16:57:58	[email protected] (David Churcher)
22 May  03:45:00	[email protected] (Julian Macassey)
22 May  13:54:27	[email protected] ()
23 May  16:20:59	[email protected] (Jesus Eugenio S nchez Pe~a)
24 May  10:48:00	[email protected] (Paul S R Chisholm)
26 May  09:53:33	[email protected] (David Barr)
29 May  22:20:29	[email protected] (Georg Schwarz)

YES VOTES (268)

 4 May  17:46:37	[email protected] ()
 4 May  18:03:25	[email protected] (Va-On Tam)
 4 May  18:20:51	[email protected] (John DeRose)
 4 May  18:39:44	[email protected] (Ed Grether)
 4 May  20:02:53	[email protected] (Stephen Owen Mast)
 4 May  22:09:32	[email protected] (Paul Craven)
 4 May  22:22:15	[email protected] (Howard Hunnicutt)
 4 May  22:22:44	[email protected] (George Sladic)
 4 May  23:20:57	[email protected] ()
 4 May  23:37:46	[email protected] (Syed Kamal)
 4 May  23:39:43	[email protected] (Edward DeHart)
 5 May  00:03:44	[email protected] (Gregory C Franklin)
 5 May  00:22:44	[email protected] (Daniel L. Jones)
 5 May  00:31:25	[email protected] (Brian Hurley)
 5 May  00:43:44	[email protected] (Michael L. Kaufman)
 5 May  07:15:00	[email protected] (Axel Dunkel)
 5 May  07:16:35	[email protected] (Jay Beavers)
 5 May  07:45:01	[email protected] (L. Hunter Kevil)
 5 May  08:16:02	[email protected] (Bruce McKibben)
 5 May  08:17:03	[email protected] (John Sims)
 5 May  08:35:00	[email protected] (Tom Carter)
 5 May  08:40:16	[email protected] ()
 5 May  08:49:00	[email protected] ()
 5 May  09:01:17	[email protected] (Larry Bird)
 5 May  09:02:31	[email protected] (Julian C. Lander)
 5 May  09:08:50	[email protected] (Tim Glauert)
 5 May  09:16:50	[email protected] (Ron Apland)
 5 May  09:26:39	[email protected] (Jim Littlefield)
 5 May  09:44:42	[email protected] (Richard Spitz)
 5 May  09:53:42	[email protected] (Michael Squires)
 5 May  10:01:15	[email protected] (David Robertson)
 5 May  10:11:43	[email protected] (Dag Espolin Johnson)
 5 May  10:19:40	[email protected] (Thomas D Gasser-1)
 5 May  10:22:33	[email protected] (Kenneth X Waterman)
 5 May  10:34:53	[email protected] (Adi Dax)
 5 May  11:14:28	[email protected] (RAM DIMBA)
 5 May  11:20:04	[email protected] ()
 5 May  11:26:44	[email protected] (Erik Ohrnberger)
 5 May  11:41:13	[email protected] (Tom Trent)
 5 May  12:14:44	[email protected] (Heinz Morandell)
 5 May  12:18:13	[email protected] (Ardie Mack)
 5 May  12:55:05	[email protected] (David Galehouse)
 5 May  12:55:41	[email protected] (Rich Anderson)
 5 May  13:07:15	[email protected] (A. Herath)
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