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Subject: RESULT:  comp.databases.oracle passes 283: 22
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The results of the vote for comp.databases.oracle received a passing vote. 
The vote ended on the 23rd of December and votes (1) after which were not 
counted. Surprisingly, ORACLE Corp. did not flood the voting.

A total of 305 people voted: no. of yes votes was 283 and no. of NO vote=22.
The numbers meet the criteria for a successful vote by a wide margin.

        YES - NO = 261 > 100   
and
        YES>> 2 x NO

I believe the moderator will issue the newgroup command in the near future.
Thank you. 

Daryl Erwin
Wilfrid Laurier University
([email protected])

P.S. I apologize if I didn't save the "correct" name portion of the mail
article - I fealt the date and userid were the important things.
[[ Traditionally, it _should_ be the "From:" header and not the Unix
mailbox "From" line.  The Guidelines stipulate as much, though liberal
interpretation would allow for this form.  I am accepting the results
of this poll. -- tale ]]

*** People voted NO for creating a comp.databases.oracle newsgroup***
From: watmath!wynnds.xenitec.on.ca!timk (Tim Kuehn)
From: [email protected] (Carl Rigney)
>From [email protected] Mon Nov 25 21:27:59 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Nov 26 09:26:56 1991
>From @hp4nl.nluug.nl,@helios,@rivm.nl:[email protected] Tue Nov 26 09:09:26 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Nov 26 09:30:56 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Nov 26 11:25:38 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Nov 26 23:57:03 1991
>From [email protected] Thu Nov 28 04:56:40 1991
>From [email protected] Wed Nov 27 13:58:53 1991
>From @ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca,@relay.cs.utoronto.ca,@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:[email protected] Mon Nov 25 11:08:48 1991
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>From [email protected] Sun Dec  1 23:27:47 1991
>From @ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca,@relay.cs.utoronto.ca:caen!sharkey!indetech!rec@citi Mon Dec  2 20:44:40 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Dec  3 13:07:15 1991
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>From [email protected] Sat Dec 14 00:30:56 1991
>From [email protected] Fri Dec 20 16:39:08 1991

***People voted YES for creating a comp.databases.oracle newsgroup***
From: Pastuch W D 
From: "RON POOL" 
From: [email protected] (Mr. Coates -- Xibo)
From: egn@laiser (E. G. Nadhan) [email protected]
From: [email protected]
From: [email protected] (Eric Lieber)
From: [email protected] (John Borchert)
From: [email protected] (vicki halliwell)
From: [email protected] (H. Schipper)
From: Maura Clark 
From: [email protected] (Paul S. Sawyer)
>From [email protected] Mon Nov 25 15:21:13 1991
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From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:13:11 1995
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From: [email protected] (Daryl Erwin)
Subject: RFD:  comp.databases.oracle
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Status: RO
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I would like to invite everybody to discuss the creation of a new newsgroup. 

Name:       comp.databases.oracle (similar to comp.databases.informix)

Charter:    Discussions on topics related to the Oracle database and
            its related products. (ie. SQL*Forms, SQL*Plus, SQL*Calc,
            (SQL*CASE, SQL*Rep, SQL*Reportwriter, etc....).  All platforms
            including Unix, VAX, PC, etc. The news group can also be used
            to gateway the Oracle-L mailling list but NOT replace the 
            mailing list.

Status:     unmoderated
========================================================================

I have no experience in setting up a group, but my understanding is that
a 2 week discussion period must follow this RFD. In order for a group to be 
accepted, there has to be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes
and at least twice as many YES votes than NO votes.

I would like to know who wants to collect the votes. I have no
experience in this and there exists probably a program which can keep
track of the YES and NO votes of each voter.

Lets shoot for a pre-Christmas newgroup!
-- 
Daryl Erwin                                    Net Address: [email protected]
Computing Services                             Surface Mail: P4-1, Main Campus
Wilfrid Laurier University, Waterloo, Ontario 
Bus:(519) 884-1970 x2910                                          ... Go Hawks!

From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:14:22 1995
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Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: [email protected]
Subject: CFV:  comp.databases.oracle
Followup-To: poster
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Status: RO
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         First Call for Votes
         --------------------

Newsgroup name:

        comp.databases.oracle

Status:  

        unmoderated

Charter:

      An unmoderated group for the discussion of software products
      by the Oracle Corporation (eg. Sql*Plus, SQL*Forms, 
      SQL*Reportwriter, etc)

How to vote:

    Mail (NOT post) your vote to one of the addresses below. Indicate
    clearly whether you are voting YES or NO either in the subject or
    the body of the message. I'll be counting these by hand, so there's
    no specific format required - just make it clear which way you're
    voting. Here is the address:

    internet:
        [email protected]     (Or the Reply-To: address of this article)
        (..!uunet!maytag!mach2!oracle-vote   - not sure on this one)

Voting Period:

   Starts: November 25
   Ends:   December 23 (29 Days!)

From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:15:17 1995
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Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.databases
Path: rpi!bounce-back
From: [email protected]
Subject: 2nd CFV:  comp.database.oracle
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Status: RO
X-Status: 

The following is the second call for votes. So as not to bias the results I
will not post acknowledgments with this posting.  With the exception of
about 10-15 people (ie bounces) all have been sent "Accepted" replies.

Voting ends on December 23...And remember MAIL and NOT post your votes.

         Second Call for Votes
         --------------------

Newsgroup name:

        comp.databases.oracle

Charter:
	
        An unmoderated group for the discussion of software products
        by the Oracle Corporation (eg. Sql*Plus, SQL*Forms, 
        SQL*Reportwriter, etc)

How to vote:

    Mail (NOT post) your vote to the address below. Indicate clearly
    whether you are voting YES or NO either in the subject or the body
    of the message. I'll be counting these by hand, so there's no
    specific format required - just make it clear which way you're
    voting. Here is the address:

    internet:
        [email protected]     (Or reply to the address of this article)

Voting Period:

   Starts: November 25
   Ends:   December 23 (29 Days!)

From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:42:30 1995
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Subject: RESULT:  comp.databases.oracle passes 283: 22
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The results of the vote for comp.databases.oracle received a passing vote. 
The vote ended on the 23rd of December and votes (1) after which were not 
counted. Surprisingly, ORACLE Corp. did not flood the voting.

A total of 305 people voted: no. of yes votes was 283 and no. of NO vote=22.
The numbers meet the criteria for a successful vote by a wide margin.

        YES - NO = 261 > 100   
and
        YES>> 2 x NO

I believe the moderator will issue the newgroup command in the near future.
Thank you. 

Daryl Erwin
Wilfrid Laurier University
([email protected])

P.S. I apologize if I didn't save the "correct" name portion of the mail
article - I fealt the date and userid were the important things.
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*** People voted NO for creating a comp.databases.oracle newsgroup***
From: watmath!wynnds.xenitec.on.ca!timk (Tim Kuehn)
From: [email protected] (Carl Rigney)
>From [email protected] Mon Nov 25 21:27:59 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Nov 26 09:26:56 1991
>From @hp4nl.nluug.nl,@helios,@rivm.nl:[email protected] Tue Nov 26 09:09:26 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Nov 26 09:30:56 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Nov 26 11:25:38 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Nov 26 23:57:03 1991
>From [email protected] Thu Nov 28 04:56:40 1991
>From [email protected] Wed Nov 27 13:58:53 1991
>From @ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca,@relay.cs.utoronto.ca,@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com:[email protected] Mon Nov 25 11:08:48 1991
>From [email protected] Sun Dec  1 19:10:24 1991
>From [email protected] Sun Dec  1 23:27:47 1991
>From @ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca,@relay.cs.utoronto.ca:caen!sharkey!indetech!rec@citi Mon Dec  2 20:44:40 1991
>From [email protected] Tue Dec  3 13:07:15 1991
>From [email protected] Mon Dec  9 18:33:34 1991
>From [email protected] Mon Dec  9 09:49:50 1991
>From @MCC.COM:[email protected] Wed Dec 11 10:46:39 1991
>From [email protected] Thu Dec 12 12:27:21 1991
>From @ean-relay.ac.uk,@doc.imperial.ac.uk:[email protected] Thu Dec 12 10:45:18 1991
>From [email protected] Sat Dec 14 00:30:56 1991
>From [email protected] Fri Dec 20 16:39:08 1991

***People voted YES for creating a comp.databases.oracle newsgroup***
From: Pastuch W D 
From: "RON POOL" 
From: [email protected] (Mr. Coates -- Xibo)
From: egn@laiser (E. G. Nadhan) [email protected]
From: [email protected]
From: [email protected] (Eric Lieber)
From: [email protected] (John Borchert)
From: [email protected] (vicki halliwell)
From: [email protected] (H. Schipper)
From: Maura Clark 
From: [email protected] (Paul S. Sawyer)
>From [email protected] Mon Nov 25 15:21:13 1991
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From [email protected] Fri Sep 13 13:24:29 1996
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Bill Aten)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.databases.oracle
Subject: CFV: comp.databases.oracle reorganization
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
         unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.marketplace
unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.misc (renames comp.databases.oracle)
            unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.server
            unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.tools

Newsgroups lines:
comp.databases.oracle.marketplace	Oracle-related jobs, etc.
comp.databases.oracle.misc	Oracle related topics.
comp.databases.oracle.server	Oracle database administration/server topics.
comp.databases.oracle.tools	Oracle software tools/applications.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Oct 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Steve Cosner 
Proponent: SV Singam 
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe 
Votetaker: Bill Aten 

RATIONALE: all groups

The group comp.databases.oracle exists for posting a wide variety of
articles related to the Oracle database and associated tools.  This
is an active group with 100 to 300 articles posted each day.  The
articles are generally quite specific, dealing with the Oracle
database, administration of databases, management of tables,
optimization of indexes, problems related to Oracle Forms,
development tools in general, ways to improve screen design and so
on.  There are also a large number of postings on Oracle related
jobs.  The separation of these topics into relevant groups will
improve the efficiency of these groups.  It will facilitate reading
and answering articles for those who have a more specific area of
interest.  A straw poll taken within the comp.databases.oracle news
group indicates that a large majority favors splitting the group.

RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.marketplace

This news group should provide a specific place for those interested
in the Oracle-related job market, as well as any other Oracle-
related products and services for sale or wanted.  Creation of this
group will provide relief to the many readers of the news group who
are annoyed by the large number of commercial advertisement
postings.

RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.misc (renames comp.databases.oracle)

This group will provide a forum for topics which do not fall within
any more specific comp.databases.oracle subgroup.  Renaming the
group should better define the subjects of articles posted there.
The .misc suffix will help people reading the news group understand
that it is a catch-all for miscellaneous topics.

The straw poll indicated that many preferred to keep
comp.databases.oracle, with no name change.  However, a larger
percentage preferred to rename the group.  This has been a topic of
heated discussions in other groups within the Usenet.  It is the
decision of the proponents to go with the majority, with the hope
that this will not cause too much controversy here.

RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.server

This group will be a channel for database-administration-specific
topics, a major area of Oracle discussions.  The "server" suffix was
chosen by a majority of respondents to a straw poll taken in
comp.databases.oracle.  It was felt that this name would be most
understandable to everyone working with the Oracle database
software, since the server is the most commonly used term for the
computer system where the actual database data is maintained.

The suffix for this newsgroup has been a major problem in this
reorganization.  Both dba and admin have been suggested, as well as
the proposed server.  It has been pointed out that admin would be
confused with computer administration, business administration, or
administration of the comp.databases.oracle.* newsgroups.

It is felt that the dba suffix is less desirable than server because
it is an acronym, usually discouraged in newsgroup names.
Additionally, the dba suffix may discourage those who are not
database administrators from participating in the group, as they may
feel that it is an exclusive group for DBA's only.

RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.tools

This group will provide a forum to discuss the wide range of tools
and applications available from or for Oracle, which is now a major
area of interest and generates much news group traffic.

CHARTER: all groups

Cross-posting articles to multiple comp.databases.oracle.*
newsgroups should be avoided.  If there is any question as to which
group should be used, post to comp.databases.oracle.misc (assuming
it is created).  While some news servers deliver a cross-posted
article to the reader only once, many others deliver the article an
additional time for each group the reader accesses.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.marketplace

Comp.databases.oracle.marketplace is a news group provided for
commercially oriented topics of interest to people using Oracle
software.  This group includes but is not limited to articles
covering the following topics:
     jobs available
     positions wanted
     services offered
     software or hardware wanted or available for sale
     books and other literature available
     announcements of new products

Posting jobs available to any other comp.databases.oracle newsgroups
should be avoided.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.misc

Comp.databases.oracle.misc is a news group where topics generally
related to the use of software from Oracle Corporation may be
posted.  This group provides a forum for topics which do not fall
within any of the more specific comp.databases.oracle subgroups.

This news group is not intended as a marketplace where employment
advertisements or commercial announcements may be posted.  These
should be directed to comp.databases.oracle.marketplace (unless it
is not created by the CFV).

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.server

Comp.databases.oracle.server is a newsgroup to discuss Oracle server
and database administration subjects.  Any topic which is especially
of interest to those performing database or system administration
duties is welcome in this group.  Discussions of software and
applications designed to aid in database administration should be
carried in this group.

The following list is a sample of topics which are included in this
news group:
    Oracle database or server installation
    Database creation and development
    Database administration, tuning, monitoring
    Techniques for more efficient access
    Importing and Exporting data
    Tools and applications designed to aid in database
      administration.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.tools

Comp.databases.oracle.tools is a news group provided for discussion
of software applications and tools available from Oracle Corporation,
or designed to work with Oracle applications.  Developers of end-user
applications will find this newsgroup most useful.

This group includes but is not limited to articles discussing
applications and topics such as the following:
    Oracle Developer 2000 (Forms, Reports, Graphics)
    Designer 2000
    The SQL Language, SQL Plus, PL/SQL
    Training and books

Due to the wide variety of applications which are discussed in this
group, each article title should begin with the application it
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not use general titles such as "A simple question".

If the comp.databases.oracle.server newsgroup is created in this
reorganization, then discussions of tools and applications designed
for use by database administrators should be carried on in the
.server newsgroup, and not the .tools group.

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