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From: [email protected] (H. Morrow Long)
Subject: CFV:  rec.video.production
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The discussion period and a straw poll for the name of the proposed
newsgroup have ended without significant objection and with the
selection of the name 'rec.video.production' as the name of the
proposed newsgroup.

This is the formal CALL FOR VOTES for creation of the newsgroup:

         rec.video.production             Unmoderated

The voting period will end on February 23 at 23:59 GMT (8pm EST).

o	To cast a YES vote for rec.video.production

	Send a message to Internet Electronic Mail address :

		[email protected]

o	To cast a NO vote for rec.video.production

	Send a message to Internet Electronic Mail address :

		[email protected]

DO NOT mail your vote to another other address, nor should you post
it.  Votes mailed directly to me or posted in a Usenet newsgroup
will not be counted.

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Charter:

	The new group will not be moderated.

	This newsgroup is intended to be used for (but not limited to)
	discussion of:

	-	professional video equipment (hardware)
	-	professional videography &
		corporate communications videography &
		special event videography
		o	lighting
		o	sound
	-	video tape editing &
		desktop video
		o	Includes Toaster(tm) as well as other Amiga,
			PC, Mac, Sun, etc. hardware and software.
		o	titling
		o	special effects (FX)
	-	working in video production, etc.
	-	electronic imaging, still and otherwise

	It is hoped that what would NOT be posted to this new
	group would be questions such as :

	-	What camcorder should I buy to tape baby's birth?
	-	What VCR, TV, LaserDisc player should I buy, I've got X $?
	
	(The above questions about consumer video equipment (and how
	to use it) would still be best posted in rec.video ).

	-       Is it true that the Pink Floyd film "The
		Valley" is available on LD in CAV w/digital stereo and
		French on the analog sound tracks?

	(The above question about films, videos, laserdiscs or other
	 media - often referred to as 'software' belong in 
	 rec.video.releases ).

Justification:
	
	Many rec.video readers have yearned for such a group as this
	with higher quality technical discussions of video equipment, editing 
	technologies and techniques for some time now.  There are quite a
	few USENET readers who are either working with video professionally,
	using video editing and/or desktop video in their current work,
	work in special event videography or
	are interested in high-end video production equipment
	
	There is quite a bit of chaff in rec.video now, even though the
	satellite people are now in rec.video.satellite and the cable people
	are in rec.video.cable-tv (although there is a bit of CATV leakage,
	interference and crosstalk into rec.video :-) and the discussions of
	video discs/tapes is SUPPOSED to be in rec.video.releases now.
	
	There was some discussion about the correct parent top level
	hierarchy for this group (misc. and sci. were proposed in addition
	to rec. - a straw poll was taken after the RFD discussion period
	and the name rec.video.production received the majority of votes.

Voting Procedure:

	Yes votes to :
		[email protected]
	No votes to  :
		[email protected]

Voting Period:

	Begins:	January 27 1992
	Ends:   February 23 1992 at 23:59 GMT (8pm EST).

H. Morrow Long
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From [email protected] Fri Nov  6 10:22:46 1992
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From: [email protected] (H. Morrow Long)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  rec.video.production
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This is the second call for votes (CFV) for rec.video.production.
Following is a reposting of the CFV and an appended list of the (169) votes
received as of Thu Feb 13 17:40:02 EST 1992.

The discussion period and a straw poll for the name of the proposed
newsgroup have ended without significant objection and with the
selection of the name 'rec.video.production' as the name of the
proposed newsgroup.

This is the formal CALL FOR VOTES (2nd notice) for creation of the newsgroup:

         rec.video.production             Unmoderated

The voting period will end on February 23 at 23:59 GMT (8pm EST).

o	To cast a YES vote for rec.video.production

	Send a message to Internet Electronic Mail address :

		[email protected]

o	To cast a NO vote for rec.video.production

	Send a message to Internet Electronic Mail address :

		[email protected]

DO NOT mail your vote to another other address, nor should you post
it.  Votes mailed directly to me or posted in a Usenet newsgroup
will not be counted.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Charter:

	The new group will not be moderated.

	This newsgroup is intended to be used for (but not limited to)
	discussion of:

	-	professional video equipment (hardware)
	-	professional videography &
		corporate communications videography &
		special event videography
		o	lighting
		o	sound
	-	video tape editing &
		desktop video
		o	Includes Toaster(tm) as well as other Amiga,
			PC, Mac, Sun, etc. hardware and software.
		o	titling
		o	special effects (FX)
	-	working in video production, etc.
	-	electronic imaging, still and otherwise

	It is hoped that what would NOT be posted to this new
	group would be questions such as :

	-	What camcorder should I buy to tape baby's birth?
	-	What VCR, TV, LaserDisc player should I buy, I've got X $?
	
	(The above questions about consumer video equipment (and how
	to use it) would still be best posted in rec.video ).

	-       Is it true that the Pink Floyd film "The
		Valley" is available on LD in CAV w/digital stereo and
		French on the analog sound tracks?

	(The above question about films, videos, laserdiscs or other
	 media - often referred to as 'software' belong in 
	 rec.video.releases ).

Justification:
	
	Many rec.video readers have yearned for such a group as this
	with higher quality technical discussions of video equipment, editing 
	technologies and techniques for some time now.  There are quite a
	few USENET readers who are either working with video professionally,
	using video editing and/or desktop video in their current work,
	work in special event videography or
	are interested in high-end video production equipment
	
	There is quite a bit of chaff in rec.video now, even though the
	satellite people are now in rec.video.satellite and the cable people
	are in rec.video.cable-tv (although there is a bit of CATV leakage,
	interference and crosstalk into rec.video :-) and the discussions of
	video discs/tapes is SUPPOSED to be in rec.video.releases now.
	
	There was some discussion about the correct parent top level
	hierarchy for this group (misc. and sci. were proposed in addition
	to rec. - a straw poll was taken after the RFD discussion period
	and the name rec.video.production received the majority of votes.

Voting Procedure:

	Yes votes to : [email protected]
	No votes to  : [email protected]

Voting Period:

	Begins:	February 24 1992
	Ends:   February 23 1992 at 23:59 GMT (8pm EST).
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MASS ACK of votes received by Thu Feb 13 17:40:02 EST 1992:

[email protected] (Dave Cline)
Gavin Shearer 
[email protected] (Tony Ketteringham)
Jeffrey Weiss 
Edward Schewchuk 
Alex Nishri 
[email protected] (Krishna E. Bera)
[email protected]
Christopher Kalevi Nuuja 
"Michael J. McInerny" 
Peter Madsen 
[email protected] (Jeff Mann)
[email protected] (Joe Polcari x4489)
Clay Henson 
rob woiccak 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Allen Braunsdorf)
[email protected] (Adele R. Maurer)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ashley Henderson)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Andrew Patrick)
[email protected] (Arie Rudich)
Mark Baratta 
[email protected]
Operator for BASIS 
"Brian G. Harper" 
[email protected] (Super-User)
[email protected] (Bjorn Ahlen)
[email protected] (Jason Vary)
[email protected] (Randall A. Jones)
Bob Purvy 
[email protected]	(Brad Gianulis)
[email protected] (Wm Harrington)
"Bruce Rayner" 
[email protected] (Chuck Cazabon...Amiga fan extraordinaire=)
[email protected] (Adam Keith Levin-Delson)
C. Fogg 
[email protected] (Root)
[email protected] (Charles A. Poynton)
Chris Klausmeier 
[email protected] (William Moxley)
[email protected] (Joel C. Justen)
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Crawford)
[email protected] (Christopher Ward)
[email protected] (Maurizio De Cecco)
Sergey V. Kartashoff 
[email protected] (Elizabeth DeRienzo)
Dave Dittrich 
"David G. Katz" 
"David G. Katz" 
David O. Dodge 
[email protected] (Don Middleton)
Ed McGuire 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bill McGonigle)
[email protected] (John Frost)
[email protected] (Greg A. Woods)
[email protected]
Gabe M Wiener 
[email protected] (Mark Goldberg)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Brian Guenter)
[email protected] (John Hagedorn)
[email protected]
Michael Heckner 
Helge Hauglin 
Pam Hong  
[email protected]
[email protected] (DEMMERS,JAMES L)
John Sommerville 
[email protected]
J Eric Townsend 
David A. Liscomb 
John Long  
[email protected] (Joe Smith)
[email protected] (Jon Rhein)
[email protected] (Joseph Goldstone)
Jim Krause 
[email protected] (Joe Roberts)
[email protected] (David Judd)
[email protected] (Jim Franklin)
Mitch Kazel 
[email protected] (Greg Kemnitz)
[email protected] (Kenn Frankel)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Albert Koval)
Jonathan Kozzi 
[email protected] (keith trussell)
[email protected] (Alan Larson)
[email protected] (Peter P. Lei)
Chris Lilley 
[email protected] (Jon Livesey)
Leonard N. Zubkoff 
[email protected] (71102000)

Graham Wilson 
[email protected] (John Carlucci)
Andy Malis 
[email protected] (Martin Hobson)
[email protected]
Kevin Maxson 
[email protected] (Larry Mayberry)
Mike Meckler 
Marc Rouleau 
[email protected] (Kent Merkel)
[email protected] (Randal L. Schwartz)
[email protected]
Weeeaasel Attack ! 
Matt Nieberger 
[email protected] (John Harkin)
Michael Ellis 
Marc Siskin 
[email protected] (Norm Aleks)
Nick (Nikolaos) C. Fotis 
Nathan James Loofbourrow 
[email protected] (Pai Pei-Ming)
Paul Walrath 
Po Shan Cheah 
[email protected] (Paul Falstad)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bill Carson)
[email protected] (Rob Fiorendino)
[email protected] (Mike Marolda)
"Martin, Computer Graphics Unit" 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Pat Simpson)
Rod Hauser 
[email protected] (Ralph Sims)
Richard Jennings 
[email protected]
Jim Roche 
[email protected] (James Rose)
[email protected] (John Blasik)
[email protected] (Russ Daniels)
Bill Cherry 
[email protected] (Rajeev Sajja)
Scott Safier 
[email protected] (Mark Seiden)
[email protected] (Steven J Fenster)
[email protected] (Sharen A. Rund)
Simon Gibbs 
[email protected] (Keith Sklower)
[email protected] (Jan Motin)
[email protected] (Lars Michael Jogback)
Rick Speer 
[email protected] (John Stanley)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Neal Goldsmith)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ken Dykes)
[email protected] (Tom Schreur)
[email protected] (K. Khan)
[email protected] (Tom Meyer)
A FROOD WHO SURE KNOWS WHERE HIS TOWEL IS 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Joachim Gothe)
[email protected] (Keith Merson)
[email protected] (James Wilson)
[email protected] (William Dye)
[email protected] (Eric Weaver)
[email protected] (Eric Weber)
[email protected] (William J. Anderson)
Woll Newall 
[email protected] (Ted Marshall)
[email protected] (William E. Price)
Yat Lok L. Cheung  
"Carl P. Zwanzig" 

From [email protected] Fri Nov  6 10:23:33 1992
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From: [email protected] (H Morrow Long)
Subject: RESULT:  rec.video.production passes 212:11
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Here are the rec.video.production results. There were 212 valid 'yes'
votes and 11 valid 'no' votes received during the voting period ( Jan
27 1992 - Feb 23 1992 at 23:59 GMT/8pm EST). There were also several
(10) duplicate 'yes' votes.  Votes mailed to me, and/or posted to
newsgroups were ignored, as I promised in the Call For Votes.

According to the accepted newsgroup creation policies of Usenet
rec.video.production has passed by a large margin.  I therefore declare
voting closed and call for the creation of the newsgroup assuming that
there are no problems.

I have appended the tally of YES and NO votes as well as the original
charter for the newsgroup as proposed.

				- Morrow

---------
NO VOTES:
---------

[email protected] (Jason Vary)
[email protected] (Christopher Ward)
Helge Hauglin 
Jim Roche 
[email protected] (Brian Kenney)
[email protected] (Alan Larson)
[email protected]
Rod Hauser 
[email protected] (Dave V. Schaller)
[email protected] (Keith Sklower)
[email protected] (Lars Michael Jogback)

----------
YES VOTES:
----------

A FROOD WHO SURE KNOWS WHERE HIS TOWEL IS 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Allen Braunsdorf)
[email protected] (Joachim Gothe)
[email protected] ( SNEERINGER)
[email protected] (Adam Keith Levin-Delson - CATS)
[email protected] (Adam Keith Levin-Delson)
[email protected] (Adele R. Maurer)
[email protected] (Ashley Henderson)
[email protected] (Michael Aieta)
[email protected]
Alex Nishri 
[email protected] (Jeff Schmidt)
[email protected] (Kent S. Harris)
andrew%[email protected] (Andrew Lindh)
[email protected] (Andrew Patrick)
Andy Malis 
[email protected] (Stephanie da Silva)
[email protected] (Arie Rudich)
[email protected]
[email protected]
Ben Marsden 
[email protected] (Rob Fiorendino)
Bill Cherry 
[email protected] (Super-User)
[email protected] (Bjorn Ahlen)
[email protected] (Randall A. Jones)
Bob Purvy 
[email protected]	(Brad Gianulis)
"Brian G. Harper" 
[email protected] (Wm Harrington)
"Bruce Rayner" 
[email protected]
C. Fogg 
"Carl P. Zwanzig" 
[email protected] (Chuck Cazabon...Amiga fan extraordinaire=)
[email protected] (Root)
[email protected] (Charles A. Poynton)
Chris Klausmeier 
Chris Lilley 
Christopher Kalevi Nuuja 
Clay Henson 
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Crawford)
[email protected] (Joel C. Justen)
[email protected] (Dave Cline)
Dave Dittrich 
"David G. Katz" 
David A. Liscomb 
David DeBry 
David O. Dodge 
[email protected]
Derek Woolverton 
[email protected] (Elizabeth DeRienzo)
[email protected] (Don Middleton)
[email protected] (Dudley Knappe)
Ed McGuire 
Edward Schewchuk 
[email protected] (Bill McGonigle)
[email protected] (John Frost)
Gabe M Wiener 
[email protected] (Greg A. Woods)
Gavin Shearer 
[email protected] (George Browning)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Mark Goldberg)
Graham Wilson 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Brian Guenter)
[email protected] (John Hagedorn)
[email protected]
[email protected]
J Eric Townsend 
[email protected] (Bill Jaeger)
[email protected] (DEMMERS,JAMES L)
[email protected] (John Hiday)
Jeffrey Weiss 
Jeffry C. Hino 
[email protected] (Jerry Stachowski)
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Harkin)
Jim Krause 
[email protected] (Jamie Krutz)
[email protected] (Joe Smith)
Jochen Schoenfeldt 
Joel B Levin 
John Long  
John Sommerville 
[email protected] (John Blasik)
[email protected] (John Abt)
[email protected] (Jon Rhein)
Jonathan Kozzi 
[email protected] (Joseph Goldstone)
[email protected] (Joe Polcari x4489)
[email protected] (Joe Roberts)
[email protected] (David Judd)
[email protected] (Tom Littauer)
[email protected] (Jim Franklin)
[email protected] (Krishna E. Bera)
[email protected] (Keith Merson)
[email protected] (Greg Kemnitz)
[email protected] (Kenn Frankel)
Kevin Maxson 
[email protected] (Ken Dykes)
[email protected]
Konstantin Souwalas 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Steve Koster)
[email protected] (Albert Koval)
[email protected] (keith trussell)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Peter P. Lei)

Leonard N. Zubkoff 
[email protected] (Jon Livesey)
[email protected] (71102000)
[email protected] (H. Morrow Long)
[email protected] (Gary Bourgois)
[email protected] (John Carlucci)
Mac Sims  
[email protected] (Jeff Mann)
Marc Rouleau 
Marc Siskin 
Mark Baratta 
"Martin, Computer Graphics Unit" 
[email protected] (Martin Hobson)
[email protected]
Matt Nieberger 
Matthew SAMS 
[email protected] (Maurizio De Cecco)
[email protected] (Larry Mayberry)
[email protected] (Kent Merkel)
[email protected] (Randal L. Schwartz)
[email protected]
Michael Ellis 
Michael Heckner 
"Michael J. McInerny" 
Mika R Iisakkila 
Mike Meckler 
[email protected] (Mark Seiden)
Mitch Kazel 
[email protected] (William Moxley)
[email protected] (Norm Aleks)
Nathan James Loofbourrow 
Nick (Nikolaos) C. Fotis 
onural%[email protected] (Levent Onural)
Operator for BASIS 
[email protected] (Pai Pei-Ming)
Pam Hong  
Patrick (P.) Wall 
Paul Walrath 
[email protected] (Richard Payton)
Peter Madsen 
[email protected] (Paul Falstad)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bill Carson)
Po Shan Cheah 
[email protected] (Mike Marolda)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Pat Simpson)
[email protected] (Ralph Sims)
[email protected] (Rex Monty Di Bona)
Richard Jennings 
Rick Speer 
rob woiccak 
Robertson William 
 "I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy, but that could change. - V.P. Quayle  14-Feb-1992 1035" 
[email protected] (James Rose)
[email protected] (Russ Daniels)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Rajeev Sajja)
Scott Safier 
Sergey V. Kartashoff 
[email protected] (Steven J Fenster)
[email protected] (Sharen A. Rund)
Simon Gibbs 
sir Ola Rinta-Koski 
Skip 
[email protected] (Steve L. Rhoades)
[email protected] (Bill Socko - Marketing)
[email protected] (Jan Motin)
[email protected] (John Stanley)
[email protected]
Stephen Tell 
Su-Yuen Ling 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Neal Goldsmith)
[email protected] (Ted Marshall)
Terje Norderhaug 
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Tony Ketteringham)
[email protected] (Tom Schreur)
[email protected] (K. Khan)
[email protected] (Tom Martin)
Tsokkinen Mikko 
[email protected] (Tom Meyer)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Jon R. Vermilye)
[email protected]
[email protected] (James Wilson)
[email protected] (William Dye)
[email protected] (Eric Weaver)
[email protected] (Eric Weber)
Weeeaasel Attack ! 
[email protected]
[email protected] (William J. Anderson)
Woll Newall 
[email protected] (William E. Price)
Yat Lok L. Cheung  
[email protected] (Joshua Yeidel)

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ORIGINAL CHARTER
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Charter:

	The new group will not be moderated.

	This newsgroup is intended to be used for (but not limited to)
	discussion of:

	-	professional video equipment (hardware)
	-	professional videography &
		corporate communications videography &
		special event videography
		o	lighting
		o	sound
	-	video tape editing &
		desktop video
		o	Includes Toaster(tm) as well as other Amiga,
			PC, Mac, Sun, etc. hardware and software.
		o	titling
		o	special effects (FX)
	-	working in video production, etc.
	-	electronic imaging, still and otherwise

	It is hoped that what would NOT be posted to this new
	group would be questions such as :

	-	What camcorder should I buy to tape baby's birth?
	-	What VCR, TV, LaserDisc player should I buy, I've got X $?
	
	(The above questions about consumer video equipment (and how
	to use it) would still be best posted in rec.video ).

	-       Is it true that the Pink Floyd film "The
		Valley" is available on LD in CAV w/digital stereo and
		French on the analog sound tracks?

	(The above question about films, videos, laserdiscs or other
	 media - often referred to as 'software' belong in 
	 rec.video.releases ).

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From [email protected] Mon Sep 11 22:13:07 1995
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From: [email protected] (H. Morrow Long)
Subject: RFD:  rec.video.production
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Status: RO
X-Status: 

Request For Discussion to create a new newsgroup rec.video.production

Proposed Newsgroup name:

	rec.video.production

Charter:

	To get the ball rolling for this RFD I throw in the
	following topics which were proposed for this new
	newsgroup to be created (called 'rec.video.production'
	) to be used for.  Such as (but not limited to)
	discussion of:

	-	professional video equipment (hardware)
	-	professional videography &
		corporate communications videography &
		special event videography
		o	lighting
		o	sound
	-	video tape editing &
		desktop video
		o	Includes Toaster(tm) as well as other Amiga,
			PC, Mac, Sun, etc. hardware and software.
		o	titling
		o	special effects (FX)
	-	working in video production, etc.
	-	electronic imaging, still and otherwise

	It is hoped that what would NOT be posted to this new
	group would be questions such as :

	-	What camcorder should I buy to tape baby's birth?
	-	What VCR, TV, LaserDisc player should I buy, I've got X $?
	
	(The above questions about consumer video equipment (and how
	to use it) would still be best posted in rec.video ).

	-       Is it true that the Pink Floyd film "The
		Valley" is available on LD in CAV w/digital stereo and
		French on the analog sound tracks?

	(The above question about films, videos, laserdiscs or other
	 media - often referred to as 'software' belongs in 
	 rec.video.releases ).

Raison d'etre:
	
	Many rec.video readers have yearned for such a group as this
	with higher quality technical discussions of video equipment, editing 
	technologies and techniques for some time now.  There are quite a
	few USENET readers who are either working with video professionally,
	using video editing and/or desktop video in their current work,
	work in special event videography or
	are interested in high-end video production equipment
	
	There is quite a bit of chaff in rec.video now, even though the
	satellite people are now in rec.video.satellite and the cable people
	are in rec.video.cable-tv (although there is a bit of CATV leakage,
	interference and crosstalk into rec.video :-) and the discussions of
	video discs/tapes is SUPPOSED to be in rec.video.releases now.
	
	There has been some discussion about the correct parent top level
	hierarchy for this group (misc. and sci. have been proposed in addition
	to rec. - we have been through this before recently with the 
	rec.video.cable-tv discussion and creation but the name of the
	group is still open territory for the discussion period ).
	There has also been some preliminary discussion of the name of the
	group itself:  ...video.production or ...video.pro or ...video.tech
	have been suggested.  Lets talk.

Discussion Procedure:

	Therefore [drum rolll] it is proposed that ....
	discussion should take place in the USENET newsgroup news.groups
	and should include the word "video" in the 'Subject:' header.
	
	A vote should be held within 30 days of the posting of this
	Request For Discussion to determine whether the group should
	be created and, if so, what the name of the group should be.
	This would mean that the discussion period would end on
	December 8, 1991.

Credits:
	
	Credit to jon%[email protected] (Jon Rhein) for the
	original seminal article in rec.video on this topic.

	Credit also should go to the following rec.video posters on
	this subject :

		[email protected] (M.R.Ellis)
		[email protected] (Clint Dimick)
		[email protected] (W7EGX)
		[email protected] (Timothy Golobic)
		[email protected]
		[email protected] (Rob Fiorendino)
		[email protected] (Mark Goldberg)
		[email protected] (Jon Rosen)
		[email protected] (Richard Boylan)
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From: [email protected] (H. Morrow Long)
Subject: CFV:  rec.video.production
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The discussion period and a straw poll for the name of the proposed
newsgroup have ended without significant objection and with the
selection of the name 'rec.video.production' as the name of the
proposed newsgroup.

This is the formal CALL FOR VOTES for creation of the newsgroup:

         rec.video.production             Unmoderated

The voting period will end on February 23 at 23:59 GMT (8pm EST).

o	To cast a YES vote for rec.video.production

	Send a message to Internet Electronic Mail address :

		[email protected]

o	To cast a NO vote for rec.video.production

	Send a message to Internet Electronic Mail address :

		[email protected]

DO NOT mail your vote to another other address, nor should you post
it.  Votes mailed directly to me or posted in a Usenet newsgroup
will not be counted.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Charter:

	The new group will not be moderated.

	This newsgroup is intended to be used for (but not limited to)
	discussion of:

	-	professional video equipment (hardware)
	-	professional videography &
		corporate communications videography &
		special event videography
		o	lighting
		o	sound
	-	video tape editing &
		desktop video
		o	Includes Toaster(tm) as well as other Amiga,
			PC, Mac, Sun, etc. hardware and software.
		o	titling
		o	special effects (FX)
	-	working in video production, etc.
	-	electronic imaging, still and otherwise

	It is hoped that what would NOT be posted to this new
	group would be questions such as :

	-	What camcorder should I buy to tape baby's birth?
	-	What VCR, TV, LaserDisc player should I buy, I've got X $?
	
	(The above questions about consumer video equipment (and how
	to use it) would still be best posted in rec.video ).

	-       Is it true that the Pink Floyd film "The
		Valley" is available on LD in CAV w/digital stereo and
		French on the analog sound tracks?

	(The above question about films, videos, laserdiscs or other
	 media - often referred to as 'software' belong in 
	 rec.video.releases ).

Justification:
	
	Many rec.video readers have yearned for such a group as this
	with higher quality technical discussions of video equipment, editing 
	technologies and techniques for some time now.  There are quite a
	few USENET readers who are either working with video professionally,
	using video editing and/or desktop video in their current work,
	work in special event videography or
	are interested in high-end video production equipment
	
	There is quite a bit of chaff in rec.video now, even though the
	satellite people are now in rec.video.satellite and the cable people
	are in rec.video.cable-tv (although there is a bit of CATV leakage,
	interference and crosstalk into rec.video :-) and the discussions of
	video discs/tapes is SUPPOSED to be in rec.video.releases now.
	
	There was some discussion about the correct parent top level
	hierarchy for this group (misc. and sci. were proposed in addition
	to rec. - a straw poll was taken after the RFD discussion period
	and the name rec.video.production received the majority of votes.

Voting Procedure:

	Yes votes to :
		[email protected]
	No votes to  :
		[email protected]

Voting Period:

	Begins:	January 27 1992
	Ends:   February 23 1992 at 23:59 GMT (8pm EST).

H. Morrow Long
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From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:44:42 1995
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From: [email protected] (H. Morrow Long)
Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK:  rec.video.production
Followup-To: poster
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This is the second call for votes (CFV) for rec.video.production.
Following is a reposting of the CFV and an appended list of the (169) votes
received as of Thu Feb 13 17:40:02 EST 1992.

The discussion period and a straw poll for the name of the proposed
newsgroup have ended without significant objection and with the
selection of the name 'rec.video.production' as the name of the
proposed newsgroup.

This is the formal CALL FOR VOTES (2nd notice) for creation of the newsgroup:

         rec.video.production             Unmoderated

The voting period will end on February 23 at 23:59 GMT (8pm EST).

o	To cast a YES vote for rec.video.production

	Send a message to Internet Electronic Mail address :

		[email protected]

o	To cast a NO vote for rec.video.production

	Send a message to Internet Electronic Mail address :

		[email protected]

DO NOT mail your vote to another other address, nor should you post
it.  Votes mailed directly to me or posted in a Usenet newsgroup
will not be counted.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Charter:

	The new group will not be moderated.

	This newsgroup is intended to be used for (but not limited to)
	discussion of:

	-	professional video equipment (hardware)
	-	professional videography &
		corporate communications videography &
		special event videography
		o	lighting
		o	sound
	-	video tape editing &
		desktop video
		o	Includes Toaster(tm) as well as other Amiga,
			PC, Mac, Sun, etc. hardware and software.
		o	titling
		o	special effects (FX)
	-	working in video production, etc.
	-	electronic imaging, still and otherwise

	It is hoped that what would NOT be posted to this new
	group would be questions such as :

	-	What camcorder should I buy to tape baby's birth?
	-	What VCR, TV, LaserDisc player should I buy, I've got X $?
	
	(The above questions about consumer video equipment (and how
	to use it) would still be best posted in rec.video ).

	-       Is it true that the Pink Floyd film "The
		Valley" is available on LD in CAV w/digital stereo and
		French on the analog sound tracks?

	(The above question about films, videos, laserdiscs or other
	 media - often referred to as 'software' belong in 
	 rec.video.releases ).

Justification:
	
	Many rec.video readers have yearned for such a group as this
	with higher quality technical discussions of video equipment, editing 
	technologies and techniques for some time now.  There are quite a
	few USENET readers who are either working with video professionally,
	using video editing and/or desktop video in their current work,
	work in special event videography or
	are interested in high-end video production equipment
	
	There is quite a bit of chaff in rec.video now, even though the
	satellite people are now in rec.video.satellite and the cable people
	are in rec.video.cable-tv (although there is a bit of CATV leakage,
	interference and crosstalk into rec.video :-) and the discussions of
	video discs/tapes is SUPPOSED to be in rec.video.releases now.
	
	There was some discussion about the correct parent top level
	hierarchy for this group (misc. and sci. were proposed in addition
	to rec. - a straw poll was taken after the RFD discussion period
	and the name rec.video.production received the majority of votes.

Voting Procedure:

	Yes votes to : [email protected]
	No votes to  : [email protected]

Voting Period:

	Begins:	February 24 1992
	Ends:   February 23 1992 at 23:59 GMT (8pm EST).
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MASS ACK of votes received by Thu Feb 13 17:40:02 EST 1992:

[email protected] (Dave Cline)
Gavin Shearer 
[email protected] (Tony Ketteringham)
Jeffrey Weiss 
Edward Schewchuk 
Alex Nishri 
[email protected] (Krishna E. Bera)
[email protected]
Christopher Kalevi Nuuja 
"Michael J. McInerny" 
Peter Madsen 
[email protected] (Jeff Mann)
[email protected] (Joe Polcari x4489)
Clay Henson 
rob woiccak 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Allen Braunsdorf)
[email protected] (Adele R. Maurer)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ashley Henderson)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Andrew Patrick)
[email protected] (Arie Rudich)
Mark Baratta 
[email protected]
Operator for BASIS 
"Brian G. Harper" 
[email protected] (Super-User)
[email protected] (Bjorn Ahlen)
[email protected] (Jason Vary)
[email protected] (Randall A. Jones)
Bob Purvy 
[email protected]	(Brad Gianulis)
[email protected] (Wm Harrington)
"Bruce Rayner" 
[email protected] (Chuck Cazabon...Amiga fan extraordinaire=)
[email protected] (Adam Keith Levin-Delson)
C. Fogg 
[email protected] (Root)
[email protected] (Charles A. Poynton)
Chris Klausmeier 
[email protected] (William Moxley)
[email protected] (Joel C. Justen)
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Crawford)
[email protected] (Christopher Ward)
[email protected] (Maurizio De Cecco)
Sergey V. Kartashoff 
[email protected] (Elizabeth DeRienzo)
Dave Dittrich 
"David G. Katz" 
"David G. Katz" 
David O. Dodge 
[email protected] (Don Middleton)
Ed McGuire 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bill McGonigle)
[email protected] (John Frost)
[email protected] (Greg A. Woods)
[email protected]
Gabe M Wiener 
[email protected] (Mark Goldberg)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Brian Guenter)
[email protected] (John Hagedorn)
[email protected]
Michael Heckner 
Helge Hauglin 
Pam Hong  
[email protected]
[email protected] (DEMMERS,JAMES L)
John Sommerville 
[email protected]
J Eric Townsend 
David A. Liscomb 
John Long  
[email protected] (Joe Smith)
[email protected] (Jon Rhein)
[email protected] (Joseph Goldstone)
Jim Krause 
[email protected] (Joe Roberts)
[email protected] (David Judd)
[email protected] (Jim Franklin)
Mitch Kazel 
[email protected] (Greg Kemnitz)
[email protected] (Kenn Frankel)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Albert Koval)
Jonathan Kozzi 
[email protected] (keith trussell)
[email protected] (Alan Larson)
[email protected] (Peter P. Lei)
Chris Lilley 
[email protected] (Jon Livesey)
Leonard N. Zubkoff 
[email protected] (71102000)

Graham Wilson 
[email protected] (John Carlucci)
Andy Malis 
[email protected] (Martin Hobson)
[email protected]
Kevin Maxson 
[email protected] (Larry Mayberry)
Mike Meckler 
Marc Rouleau 
[email protected] (Kent Merkel)
[email protected] (Randal L. Schwartz)
[email protected]
Weeeaasel Attack ! 
Matt Nieberger 
[email protected] (John Harkin)
Michael Ellis 
Marc Siskin 
[email protected] (Norm Aleks)
Nick (Nikolaos) C. Fotis 
Nathan James Loofbourrow 
[email protected] (Pai Pei-Ming)
Paul Walrath 
Po Shan Cheah 
[email protected] (Paul Falstad)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bill Carson)
[email protected] (Rob Fiorendino)
[email protected] (Mike Marolda)
"Martin, Computer Graphics Unit" 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Pat Simpson)
Rod Hauser 
[email protected] (Ralph Sims)
Richard Jennings 
[email protected]
Jim Roche 
[email protected] (James Rose)
[email protected] (John Blasik)
[email protected] (Russ Daniels)
Bill Cherry 
[email protected] (Rajeev Sajja)
Scott Safier 
[email protected] (Mark Seiden)
[email protected] (Steven J Fenster)
[email protected] (Sharen A. Rund)
Simon Gibbs 
[email protected] (Keith Sklower)
[email protected] (Jan Motin)
[email protected] (Lars Michael Jogback)
Rick Speer 
[email protected] (John Stanley)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Neal Goldsmith)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ken Dykes)
[email protected] (Tom Schreur)
[email protected] (K. Khan)
[email protected] (Tom Meyer)
A FROOD WHO SURE KNOWS WHERE HIS TOWEL IS 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Joachim Gothe)
[email protected] (Keith Merson)
[email protected] (James Wilson)
[email protected] (William Dye)
[email protected] (Eric Weaver)
[email protected] (Eric Weber)
[email protected] (William J. Anderson)
Woll Newall 
[email protected] (Ted Marshall)
[email protected] (William E. Price)
Yat Lok L. Cheung  
"Carl P. Zwanzig" 

From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:45:58 1995
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From: [email protected] (H Morrow Long)
Subject: RESULT:  rec.video.production passes 212:11
Followup-To: news.groups
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Here are the rec.video.production results. There were 212 valid 'yes'
votes and 11 valid 'no' votes received during the voting period ( Jan
27 1992 - Feb 23 1992 at 23:59 GMT/8pm EST). There were also several
(10) duplicate 'yes' votes.  Votes mailed to me, and/or posted to
newsgroups were ignored, as I promised in the Call For Votes.

According to the accepted newsgroup creation policies of Usenet
rec.video.production has passed by a large margin.  I therefore declare
voting closed and call for the creation of the newsgroup assuming that
there are no problems.

I have appended the tally of YES and NO votes as well as the original
charter for the newsgroup as proposed.

				- Morrow

---------
NO VOTES:
---------

[email protected] (Jason Vary)
[email protected] (Christopher Ward)
Helge Hauglin 
Jim Roche 
[email protected] (Brian Kenney)
[email protected] (Alan Larson)
[email protected]
Rod Hauser 
[email protected] (Dave V. Schaller)
[email protected] (Keith Sklower)
[email protected] (Lars Michael Jogback)

----------
YES VOTES:
----------

A FROOD WHO SURE KNOWS WHERE HIS TOWEL IS 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Allen Braunsdorf)
[email protected] (Joachim Gothe)
[email protected] ( SNEERINGER)
[email protected] (Adam Keith Levin-Delson - CATS)
[email protected] (Adam Keith Levin-Delson)
[email protected] (Adele R. Maurer)
[email protected] (Ashley Henderson)
[email protected] (Michael Aieta)
[email protected]
Alex Nishri 
[email protected] (Jeff Schmidt)
[email protected] (Kent S. Harris)
andrew%[email protected] (Andrew Lindh)
[email protected] (Andrew Patrick)
Andy Malis 
[email protected] (Stephanie da Silva)
[email protected] (Arie Rudich)
[email protected]
[email protected]
Ben Marsden 
[email protected] (Rob Fiorendino)
Bill Cherry 
[email protected] (Super-User)
[email protected] (Bjorn Ahlen)
[email protected] (Randall A. Jones)
Bob Purvy 
[email protected]	(Brad Gianulis)
"Brian G. Harper" 
[email protected] (Wm Harrington)
"Bruce Rayner" 
[email protected]
C. Fogg 
"Carl P. Zwanzig" 
[email protected] (Chuck Cazabon...Amiga fan extraordinaire=)
[email protected] (Root)
[email protected] (Charles A. Poynton)
Chris Klausmeier 
Chris Lilley 
Christopher Kalevi Nuuja 
Clay Henson 
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Crawford)
[email protected] (Joel C. Justen)
[email protected] (Dave Cline)
Dave Dittrich 
"David G. Katz" 
David A. Liscomb 
David DeBry 
David O. Dodge 
[email protected]
Derek Woolverton 
[email protected] (Elizabeth DeRienzo)
[email protected] (Don Middleton)
[email protected] (Dudley Knappe)
Ed McGuire 
Edward Schewchuk 
[email protected] (Bill McGonigle)
[email protected] (John Frost)
Gabe M Wiener 
[email protected] (Greg A. Woods)
Gavin Shearer 
[email protected] (George Browning)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Mark Goldberg)
Graham Wilson 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Brian Guenter)
[email protected] (John Hagedorn)
[email protected]
[email protected]
J Eric Townsend 
[email protected] (Bill Jaeger)
[email protected] (DEMMERS,JAMES L)
[email protected] (John Hiday)
Jeffrey Weiss 
Jeffry C. Hino 
[email protected] (Jerry Stachowski)
[email protected]
[email protected] (John Harkin)
Jim Krause 
[email protected] (Jamie Krutz)
[email protected] (Joe Smith)
Jochen Schoenfeldt 
Joel B Levin 
John Long  
John Sommerville 
[email protected] (John Blasik)
[email protected] (John Abt)
[email protected] (Jon Rhein)
Jonathan Kozzi 
[email protected] (Joseph Goldstone)
[email protected] (Joe Polcari x4489)
[email protected] (Joe Roberts)
[email protected] (David Judd)
[email protected] (Tom Littauer)
[email protected] (Jim Franklin)
[email protected] (Krishna E. Bera)
[email protected] (Keith Merson)
[email protected] (Greg Kemnitz)
[email protected] (Kenn Frankel)
Kevin Maxson 
[email protected] (Ken Dykes)
[email protected]
Konstantin Souwalas 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Steve Koster)
[email protected] (Albert Koval)
[email protected] (keith trussell)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Peter P. Lei)

Leonard N. Zubkoff 
[email protected] (Jon Livesey)
[email protected] (71102000)
[email protected] (H. Morrow Long)
[email protected] (Gary Bourgois)
[email protected] (John Carlucci)
Mac Sims  
[email protected] (Jeff Mann)
Marc Rouleau 
Marc Siskin 
Mark Baratta 
"Martin, Computer Graphics Unit" 
[email protected] (Martin Hobson)
[email protected]
Matt Nieberger 
Matthew SAMS 
[email protected] (Maurizio De Cecco)
[email protected] (Larry Mayberry)
[email protected] (Kent Merkel)
[email protected] (Randal L. Schwartz)
[email protected]
Michael Ellis 
Michael Heckner 
"Michael J. McInerny" 
Mika R Iisakkila 
Mike Meckler 
[email protected] (Mark Seiden)
Mitch Kazel 
[email protected] (William Moxley)
[email protected] (Norm Aleks)
Nathan James Loofbourrow 
Nick (Nikolaos) C. Fotis 
onural%[email protected] (Levent Onural)
Operator for BASIS 
[email protected] (Pai Pei-Ming)
Pam Hong  
Patrick (P.) Wall 
Paul Walrath 
[email protected] (Richard Payton)
Peter Madsen 
[email protected] (Paul Falstad)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bill Carson)
Po Shan Cheah 
[email protected] (Mike Marolda)
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Pat Simpson)
[email protected] (Ralph Sims)
[email protected] (Rex Monty Di Bona)
Richard Jennings 
Rick Speer 
rob woiccak 
Robertson William 
 "I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy, but that could change. - V.P. Quayle  14-Feb-1992 1035" 
[email protected] (James Rose)
[email protected] (Russ Daniels)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Rajeev Sajja)
Scott Safier 
Sergey V. Kartashoff 
[email protected] (Steven J Fenster)
[email protected] (Sharen A. Rund)
Simon Gibbs 
sir Ola Rinta-Koski 
Skip 
[email protected] (Steve L. Rhoades)
[email protected] (Bill Socko - Marketing)
[email protected] (Jan Motin)
[email protected] (John Stanley)
[email protected]
Stephen Tell 
Su-Yuen Ling 
[email protected]
[email protected] (Neal Goldsmith)
[email protected] (Ted Marshall)
Terje Norderhaug 
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected] (Tony Ketteringham)
[email protected] (Tom Schreur)
[email protected] (K. Khan)
[email protected] (Tom Martin)
Tsokkinen Mikko 
[email protected] (Tom Meyer)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Jon R. Vermilye)
[email protected]
[email protected] (James Wilson)
[email protected] (William Dye)
[email protected] (Eric Weaver)
[email protected] (Eric Weber)
Weeeaasel Attack ! 
[email protected]
[email protected] (William J. Anderson)
Woll Newall 
[email protected] (William E. Price)
Yat Lok L. Cheung  
[email protected] (Joshua Yeidel)

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ORIGINAL CHARTER
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Charter:

	The new group will not be moderated.

	This newsgroup is intended to be used for (but not limited to)
	discussion of:

	-	professional video equipment (hardware)
	-	professional videography &
		corporate communications videography &
		special event videography
		o	lighting
		o	sound
	-	video tape editing &
		desktop video
		o	Includes Toaster(tm) as well as other Amiga,
			PC, Mac, Sun, etc. hardware and software.
		o	titling
		o	special effects (FX)
	-	working in video production, etc.
	-	electronic imaging, still and otherwise

	It is hoped that what would NOT be posted to this new
	group would be questions such as :

	-	What camcorder should I buy to tape baby's birth?
	-	What VCR, TV, LaserDisc player should I buy, I've got X $?
	
	(The above questions about consumer video equipment (and how
	to use it) would still be best posted in rec.video ).

	-       Is it true that the Pink Floyd film "The
		Valley" is available on LD in CAV w/digital stereo and
		French on the analog sound tracks?

	(The above question about films, videos, laserdiscs or other
	 media - often referred to as 'software' belong in 
	 rec.video.releases ).

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