From [email protected] Thu Jan  6 15:32:52 1994
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From: [email protected] (David S. Channin)
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Subject: RFD: sci.med.radiology
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Date: 6 Jan 1994 11:03:38 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Radiology, Hershey Medical Center, Hershey PA
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Name: sci.med.radiology

Charter:  

   More and more radiologists, technologists, sonographers, and
residents are getting connected to the net and need a place to discuss
the daily issues of radiology, whether technologic, clinical or
operational.
  Discussions of the physics of radiology and radiologic equipment
have been and should continue to be held in sci.med.physics.
Discussions related to DICOM and connectivity of imaging (and other)
devices are now beginning in comp.protocol.dicom.
    The intent would NOT be to provide a forum for telediagnosis, a
la, "My cat scan showed a white blob in the front, what is it?", but
more like discussions ABOUT how to provide telediagnosis, etc.
  
  Moderation: None
  
  
  Discussion will remain open for thiry (30) days and barring
significant criticism we anticipate a call for votes on or about
February 5, 1994.

 Off line discussion may be directed to:
 
 David S. Channin M.D.
 Department of Radiology
 Penn State College of Medicine
 [email protected]

From [email protected] Fri Feb  4 16:09:35 1994
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From: [email protected] (David S. Channin)
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Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.med.radiology
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This is the second request for discussion in the tradition of creating
new Usenet newsgroups:

Name: sci.med.radiology

Charter: 

  There seems to be a need for a place to discuss the clinical,
technological, and operational, and political aspects of
radiology. Discussions of the physics of radiology and radiologic
equipment have been and should continue to be held in
sci.med.physics. Discussions of image processing and computer graphics
have been and should continue to be held in alt.image.medical,
sci.image.processing, and comp.graphics.*, and the AI groups as
appropriate. Discussions concerning image and data communication
between radiologic devices (and others) will hopefully be held more
and more in comp.protocols.dicom.

   It is NOT within the charter of this group that it become a place
for telediagnosis, e.g., " My CAT scan shows a white blob in the
front, what is it?". Discussions about how to perform telediagnosis,
etc would be included in the charter.
   
Moderation: None
 
  As tradition dictates, and pending significant criticism, a Call For
Votes is now planned for early February, 1994.
 
Off line discussion may be directed to:
 
David S. Channin M.D.
Department of Radiology
Penn State College of Medicine
[email protected]

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Feb 24 17:55:35 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: CFV: sci.med.radiology
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Date: 24 Feb 1994 16:05:27 -0500
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		     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		 unmoderated group sci.med.radiology

Newsgroups line:
sci.med.radiology	All aspects of radiology.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 March 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact  [email protected].


CHARTER

There seems to be a need for a place to discuss the clinical,
technological, and operational, and political aspects ofradiology.

Discussions of the physics of radiology and radiologic equipment have
been and should continue to be held in sci.med.physics.  Discussions
of image processing and computer graphics have been and should
continue to be held in alt.image.medical, sci.image.processing, and
comp.graphics.*, and the AI groups as appropriate.  Discussions
concerning image and data communication between radiologic devices
(and others) will hopefully be held more and more in
comp.protocols.dicom.

It is NOT within the charter of this group that it become a place for
telediagnosis, e.g., " My CAT scan shows a white blob in the front,
what is it?". Discussions about how to perform telediagnosis, etc
would be included in the charter.



HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.med.radiology
      I vote NO on sci.med.radiology

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

From [email protected] (RonDippold) Wed Mar  9 23:37:14 1994
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From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
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Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.med.radiology
Supersedes: 
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                     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		 unmoderated group sci.med.radiology

Newsgroups line:
sci.med.radiology	All aspects of radiology.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 March 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact  [email protected].


CHARTER

There seems to be a need for a place to discuss the clinical,
technological, and operational, and political aspects ofradiology.

Discussions of the physics of radiology and radiologic equipment have
been and should continue to be held in sci.med.physics.  Discussions
of image processing and computer graphics have been and should
continue to be held in alt.image.medical, sci.image.processing, and
comp.graphics.*, and the AI groups as appropriate.  Discussions
concerning image and data communication between radiologic devices
(and others) will hopefully be held more and more in
comp.protocols.dicom.

It is NOT within the charter of this group that it become a place for
telediagnosis, e.g., " My CAT scan shows a white blob in the front,
what is it?". Discussions about how to perform telediagnosis, etc
would be included in the charter.



HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.med.radiology
      I vote NO on sci.med.radiology

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person and per account will be counted.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

unmoderated group sci.med.radiology Bounce Ack List - No need to revote
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From [email protected] (RonDippold) Thu Mar 24 18:07:55 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.med,comp.protocols.dicom,sci.med.physics,alt.image.medical,sci.med.telemedicine,sci.image.processing
Subject: RESULT: sci.med.radiology passes 220:12
Supersedes: 
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Date: 22 Mar 1994 21:11:12 -0500
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                               RESULT
              unmoderated group sci.med.radiology passes 220:12

There were 220 YES votes and 12 NO votes, for a total of 232 valid votes. 
There was 1 abstain and 3 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.


Newsgroups line:
sci.med.radiology	All aspects of radiology.


This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [email protected].  For questions about the
proposed group contact  [email protected].


CHARTER

There seems to be a need for a place to discuss the clinical,
technological, and operational, and political aspects ofradiology.

Discussions of the physics of radiology and radiologic equipment have
been and should continue to be held in sci.med.physics.  Discussions
of image processing and computer graphics have been and should
continue to be held in alt.image.medical, sci.image.processing, and
comp.graphics.*, and the AI groups as appropriate.  Discussions
concerning image and data communication between radiologic devices
(and others) will hopefully be held more and more in
comp.protocols.dicom.

It is NOT within the charter of this group that it become a place for
telediagnosis, e.g., " My CAT scan shows a white blob in the front,
what is it?". Discussions about how to perform telediagnosis, etc
would be included in the charter.


unmoderated group sci.med.radiology Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                              Allan L. Goodman
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[email protected]                                     Rebecca Drayer
[email protected]                                  Matthias Drobnitzky
[email protected]                                          David S. Channin
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[email protected]                                  Hristos Davatzikos
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[email protected]                                      Ted Hudacko
[email protected]                                  C. Robert Appledorn
[email protected]                                      Amilcare Gentili
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[email protected]                                             Joseph Frank
[email protected]                                           James Harrison
[email protected]                                          Javier Gallego
[email protected]                                                   John De Armond
[email protected]                                               John W. Hoben
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[email protected]                                                Joel Furr
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[email protected]                           JOSEPH THOMAS LURITO
[email protected]                                            Joe St Sauver
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[email protected]                                         Julian Guffogg
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[email protected]                  Kent Hutson - Radiology resident
[email protected]                                       Kontola Kalervo Mikael
[email protected]                                       Edmond A. Knopp
[email protected]                                                       Jean Koh
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[email protected]                                         Lawrence R. Tarbox
[email protected]                                   Gerry Macridis
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[email protected]                                  Elliot D. Menschik
[email protected]                                           Matti Haveri
[email protected]                                       Mark Van Horn
[email protected]                                          Mike Steven
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[email protected]                                            Minh DoVan
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[email protected]                           Melissa Rhoads Warden
[email protected]                                          H{m{l{inen Matti Sakari
[email protected]                                      Robert Murphy
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[email protected]                                   Leanne Taylor
[email protected]                                         Benny Novogrodsky
[email protected]                                          Robert Nowotny
[email protected]                                           Jim Nugent 5-5345
[email protected]                                        Oliver Klink
[email protected]                                          Paula Patel
[email protected]                                              Paul Malloy
[email protected]                                         Peter G. Berger
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[email protected]                                        Greg Spicer
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[email protected]                                         Renuka Uppaluri
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[email protected]                         Richard N Woodfield
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[email protected]                                Sai Kumar Casula
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[email protected]                                         Lee Santon
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[email protected]                                           JOERG SIEMERS
[email protected]                                        Teri Sippel 4-6264
[email protected]                                               Stephen J. Hart
[email protected]                                                  Susan Johnston
[email protected]                               Saban Kurucay
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[email protected]                                                   Stefan Posse
[email protected]                                                    Nancy Perry
[email protected]                                Sridhar Venkataraman
[email protected]                                      Sriram Padmanabhan
[email protected]                                                 Steve Lennon
[email protected]                                    Stan Borkowski
[email protected]                                        Stephanie Webb
[email protected]                                        Dick St.Peters
[email protected]                                 Umberto Tachinardi, MD
[email protected]                                        David Talton
[email protected]                                       Ted Beatie
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[email protected]                              Terry Rosenbaum
[email protected]                                           Todd Veldhuizen
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[email protected]                                            Tore Sfter
[email protected]                                  Marianne Tortorici
[email protected]                                          Trevor Cradduck
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U476001%[email protected]                     Ing. W. Guijt
[email protected]                                          Ulrich Kliegis
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[email protected]        Rob Uyeyama;[email protected]
[email protected]                                            Jason Verch
[email protected]                                              V.S.Sunderam
[email protected]                                          Jeff Wade 552-5117
[email protected]                                              Warren Lavallee
[email protected]                                              David Harvey
[email protected]                                             David Wooding
[email protected]                                            William Pritchard
[email protected]                                              Kim Wheeler
[email protected]                                     Marilyn R Wulfekuhler
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[email protected]                               Alexander J. Denner
[email protected]                           A great x ray technician!
[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
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Voted No
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[email protected]                                        Bertil Jonell
[email protected]                                                  Lee Roll
[email protected]                                  Sean P. Ryan
HD0022%[email protected]                           Chip Dunham
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                       Marc Moorcroft
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                                 Stiela
[email protected]                                        Ward F. Bush
[email protected]                                             wade hostler

Abstained
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[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS


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