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From [email protected] Mon May  1 18:21:19 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Lee Raesly)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: RFD: rec.models.rc reorganization
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 1 May 1995 16:07:55 -0400
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                        REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
                 unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air
                 unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land
                unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water
      unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc renamcs rec.models.rc

Proposer:      [email protected] (Lee Raesly)

This RFD is being posted in accordance with the Guidelines for
Newsgroup Creation. This RFD is being issued in concordance with the
guidelines set in the "How to create a new usenet newsgroup" FAQ
regularly posted to news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to this
article if you have any questions about the newsgroup creation.

Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs. The RFD
will be cross-posted to the following relevant news groups:

news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.models.rc

In this context, it is proposed that the parent newsgroup --
rec.models.rc -- be renamed rec/models.rc.misc, and that this item
be voted on as a separate issue, independently of creation of the
individual groups proposed. Voters will be allowed to Abstain or vote No
on some parts of the proposal while supporting others.

Further, in this context, and to avoid repetition of the following
proposals mentioned recently in rec.models.rc, it is proposed that
three new RC Model newsgroups be considered during this
process, to wit:

=== BACKGROUND

The unmoderated newsgroup rec.models.rc has been the paramount forum
for news and discussion related to the Radio Control models. Further, the
FCC requires different frequencies be used for surface (75 MgHrtz) and air
(72 MgHrtz).

1.
rec.models.rc.land
Status: unmoderated
Distribution: world-wide
Proposer:     [email protected] (Lee Raesly)

Purpose:  postings of questions and reports and other related information
concerning any radio control items operated on land. This includes cars
(both off road and on road) car racing, car clubs and other activities,
tanks, and related radio control devices intended to operate on land.
including related items for individual sale. This category accounts for
approximately one-third of the 300 messages a day on the parent newsgroup.



=== CHARTER

The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to
disseminate reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information
related to radio control of land based items including related items for
individual sale.


2.
rec.models.rc.water
Status: unmoderated
Distribution: world-wide
Proposer:     [email protected] (Lee Raesly)
Purpose: Postings of questions and info on radio controlled vehicles to
operate on or in water. This includes all surface vehicles (powered and
wind driven), submarines, hydrofoil vehicles and information of clubs,
events, and other related activities, including related items for
individual sale. This category accounts for approximately one-third of the
300 messages a day on the parent newsgroup.





=== CHARTER

The rec,models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to
disseminate reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information
related to radio control of water based items including related items for
individual sale.

3.
Group Name : rec.models.rc.air
Status: unmoderated:
Distribution:   world-wide
Proposer:       [email protected] (Lee Raesly)

Purpose:        Postings of questions and information on radio controlled
air vehicles. This includes air related vehicles such as gliders, electric
and wet (gas) powered planes, blimps, etc. as well as discussion and
listing about related clubs, contests and other events. and other related
activities, including related items for individual sale. This category
accounts for approximately one-third of the 300 messages a day on the
parent newsgroup.



=== CHARTER

The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to
disseminate reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information
related to radio control of air based items including related items for
individual sale.



4.
Rename rec.models.rc -> rec.models.rc.misc

The renaming of the base group follows modern usenet convention.  It does
not indicate the relative importance of the various groups; it only servers
as a marker that more specialized groups do exist.

The charter will remain as it is, with the exception that postings
more relevant to subgroups should now be posted there, rather than
to the main group.


=== BACKGROUND

We calculate that in an average month, we're looking at about 9000-10000
messages. With the traffic growth normally expected on the internet, we
estimate that number will grow to between 12,000 and 15,000 by late summer.
I also think that a lot of players feel less reluctant to post email
related radio controlled stuff if there is a dedicated Usenet newsgroup for
each type.

=== CROSS POSTINGS

This RFD is being posted to rec.models.rc and, news.announce. When Call For
Votes (CFV) are issued, it can also be cross-posted in these groups.

=== FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES

After a discussion period of 7-21 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed groups, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups as this RFD.  The voting period will be at least
21 days.  If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO
votes, and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, it will be
created.


Take Care, Now!  Lee...
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                                              Voice  301+868-9554

From [email protected] Mon Jun 12 13:33:49 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: CFV: rec.models.rc reorganization
Followup-To: poster
Date: 12 Jun 1995 13:05:46 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air
                 unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land
                unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water
    unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc (replaces rec.models.rc)

Newsgroups lines:
rec.models.rc.land	RC controlled land models.
rec.models.rc.air	RC controlled air models.
rec.models.rc.water	RC controlled water models.
rec.models.rc.misc	RC controlled miscellaneous items.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 3 July 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact <[email protected]>.  For questions about the
proposed groups contact Lee Raesly <[email protected]>.

RATIONALE:

This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on 300 articles
a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult for readers to
find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies for land and
air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the radio
frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.

In addition, the commonality of users is by form of rc, in other words,
that which is control (such as cars, planes, etc.), NOT in the method of
controlling (i.e. radio controlled).

CHARTERS:

BACKGROUND: This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on
300 articles a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult
for readers to find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies
for land and air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the
radio frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.

rec.models.rc.land -
The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of land based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.air -
The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of air based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.water -
The rec.models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of water based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.misc -
This is the renaming of the parent newsgroup, (which I have been told is
mandatory under the current rules), whose charter will remain as it is,
with the exception that postings more relevant to subgroups should now be
posted there, rather than to the main group.

HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.


Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.

Then mail the ballot to:    [email protected]
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Rec.models.rc Reorg Ballot    <RMR-0001> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  rec.models.rc.air
[         ]  rec.models.rc.land
[         ]  rec.models.rc.water
[         ]  rec.models.rc.misc
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
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   Misti Jordan  ||    Info about the UVV or about the Guidelines can be
[email protected] ||      found at:   http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv
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From [email protected] Fri Jul 14 11:19:21 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: CFV CANCELLED: rec.models.rc reorganization
Followup-To: poster
Date: 13 Jul 1995 20:25:36 -0400
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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Due to a software problem, the second Call for Votes (CFV) for the
reorganization of rec.models.rc was never published.  The only thing I
can think of to remedy this situation is to reissue the CFV and start
the whole process over.  For that reason, I am posting this message.

A new CFV will be posted at the same time as this message in
news.announce.newgroups, news.groups and rec.models.rc.  If you voted
in the original CFV, I will be sending you a copy of the CFV,
including a ballot. Please fill it out and return it to me to have
your vote counted.  I apologize for any inconvenience this causes you,
but I can see no other way to correct this problem.
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   Misti Jordan  ||    Info about the UVV or about the Guidelines can be
[email protected] ||      found at:   http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv
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From [email protected] Fri Jul 14 11:19:24 1995
Status: RO
Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: CFV: rec.models.rc reorganization (revote)
Followup-To: poster
Date: 14 Jul 1995 00:23:18 -0000
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
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		      FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land
                 unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air
                unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water
    unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc (replaces rec.models.rc)

Newsgroups lines:

rec.models.rc.land      RC controlled land models.
rec.models.rc.air       RC controlled air models.
rec.models.rc.water     RC controlled water models.
rec.models.rc.misc      RC controlled miscellaneous items.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Aug 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact <[email protected]>.  For questions about the
proposed groups contact Lee Raesly <[email protected]>.

CHARTERS:

BACKGROUND: This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on
300 articles a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult
for readers to find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies
for land and air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the
radio frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.

rec.models.rc.land -
The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of land based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.air -
The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of air based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.water -
The rec.models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of water based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.misc -
This is the renaming of the parent newsgroup, (which I have been told is
mandatory under the current rules), whose charter will remain as it is,
with the exception that postings more relevant to subgroups should now be
posted there, rather than to the main group.

RATIONALE:

This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on 300 articles
a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult for readers to
find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies for land and
air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the radio
frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.

In addition, the commonality of users is by form of rc, in other words,
that which is control (such as cars, planes, etc.), NOT in the method of
controlling (i.e. radio controlled).


HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.


Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.

Then mail the ballot to:    [email protected]
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Rec.models.rc Reorg Ballot    <RMR-0001> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  rec.models.rc.air
[         ]  rec.models.rc.land
[         ]  rec.models.rc.water
[         ]  rec.models.rc.misc (replaces rec.models.rc)
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Misti Jordan  ||    Info about the UVV or about the Guidelines can be
[email protected] ||      found at:   http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Thu Jul 27 20:25:42 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.models.rc reorganization (revote)
Followup-To: poster
Date: 28 Jul 1995 00:25:14 -0000
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 107
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Expires: 5 Aug 1995 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Archive-Name: rec.models.rc-reorg
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7233 news.groups:161626 rec.models.rc:60428

		     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		 unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air
		 unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land
		unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water
    unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc (replaces rec.models.rc)

Newsgroups lines:
rec.models.rc.land      RC controlled land models.
rec.models.rc.air       RC controlled air models.
rec.models.rc.water     RC controlled water models.
rec.models.rc.misc      RC controlled miscellaneous items.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 August 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact <[email protected]>.  For questions about the
proposed groups contact Lee Raesly <[email protected]>.

RATIONALE:

This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on 300 articles
a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult for readers to
find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies for land and
air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the radio
frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.

In addition, the commonality of users is by form of rc, in other words,
that which is control (such as cars, planes, etc.), NOT in the method of
controlling (i.e. radio controlled).

CHARTERS:

BACKGROUND: This is basically a re-organization of rec.models.rc based on
300 articles a day (9000-10,000 per month), thus making it very difficult
for readers to find information. Also, FCC requires different frequencies
for land and air, thus making the split more important and natural, as the
radio frequencies are already quite separate and different. There is NO
commonality between radios for these different radio control transmitters
and receivers.

rec.models.rc.land -
The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of land based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.air -
The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of air based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.water -
The rec.models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of water based items including related items for individual
sale.

rec.models.rc.misc -
This is the renaming of the parent newsgroup, (which I have been told is
mandatory under the current rules), whose charter will remain as it is,
with the exception that postings more relevant to subgroups should now be
posted there, rather than to the main group.

HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line.  Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group names.


Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or
NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want
to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank.  Don't worry
about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply
inserts.

Then MAIL the ballot to:    [email protected]
Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Rec.models.rc Reorg Ballot    <RMR-0002> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  rec.models.rc.air
[         ]  rec.models.rc.land
[         ]  rec.models.rc.water
[         ]  rec.models.rc.misc
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Misti Jordan  ||    Info about the UVV or about the Guidelines can be
[email protected] ||      found at:   http://www.amdahl.com/ext/uvv
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From [email protected] Wed Aug 16 20:34:31 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Misti Jordan)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.models.rc
Subject: RESULT: rec.models.rc reorganization passes
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 17 Aug 1995 00:26:47 -0000
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Lines: 434
Sender: [email protected]
Approved: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Archive-Name: rec.models.rc-reorg
Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7365 news.groups:164726 rec.models.rc:62581

                                RESULT
          unmoderated group rec.models.rc.air passes 282:54
          unmoderated group rec.models.rc.land passes 256:60
         unmoderated group rec.models.rc.water passes 251:63
          unmoderated group rec.models.rc.misc passes 260:76

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 282   54 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : rec.models.rc.air
 256   60 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : rec.models.rc.land
 251   63 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : rec.models.rc.water
 260   76 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : rec.models.rc.misc (renames rec.models.rc)
   3 invalid votes

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 4 August 1995.

Newsgroups line:

rec.models.rc.land      RC controlled land models.
rec.models.rc.air       RC controlled air models.
rec.models.rc.water     RC controlled water models.
rec.models.rc.misc      RC controlled miscellaneous items.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only, contact Misti Jordan <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group, contact Lee Raesly <[email protected]>.

CHARTER: rec.models.rc.land

The rec,models.rc.land newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of land based items including related items for
individual sale.

CHARTER: rec.models.rc.air

The rec,models.rc.air newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of air based items including related items for
individual sale.

CHARTER: rec.models.rc.water

The rec.models.rc.water newsgroup will provide a place to disseminate
reports, discussions, ask questions and provide information related to
radio control of water based items including related items for
individual sale.

CHARTER: rec.models.rc.misc

This is the renaming of the parent newsgroup, whose charter will
remain as it is, with the exception that postings more relevant to
subgroups should now be posted there, rather than to the main group.

Rec.models.rc Reorg Final Vote Ack


						    rec.models.rc.misc ------+
						   rec.models.rc.water -----+|
						    rec.models.rc.land ----+||
						     rec.models.rc.air ---+|||
									  ||||
[email protected]                                   Joakim Hjort YYYY
[email protected]                             KEREN LABUSCHAGNE YYYY
[email protected]                                      Herm Perez YYYY
[email protected]                                     Randall Preston YYYY
[email protected]                                         Andrew Smith YYYY
[email protected]                                      Jonathan Adair YYYY
[email protected]                                              Brian Adams YYYN
[email protected]                                          Adam Teague YYYY
[email protected]                                              Michel Adar YYYY
[email protected]                                    A. Dowhite YYYY
[email protected]                                           Adrian D. Shaw YYYY
[email protected]                                      Andrew Farrell ---N
[email protected]                                     Agust H. Bjarnason YYYY
[email protected]                                 Anthony Dorego YYYY
[email protected]                             Francis D.Agyare Y--Y
[email protected]                                   Clark Freeman NNNN
[email protected]                                Al Womelsdorf YYYY
[email protected]                                     Ales Jaklic YYYY
[email protected]                                           Ali Tajeldin YYYY
[email protected]                                         Brian G. Allan YYYN
[email protected]                                            Andy Latto YYYN
[email protected]                                 RICHARD CRAPP YYYY
[email protected]                               Art Reitsma YYYY
[email protected]                                 Adrian Richardson YYYY
[email protected]                                        Arnaud Weber YYYY
[email protected]                                          Andreas Stemmer NNNN
[email protected]                                         Matt Huang YYYY
[email protected]                                  rboy brings more. YYYY
[email protected]                                    Martin Behrendt NNNN
[email protected]                                            Ben Chiu NNNN
[email protected]                                              Bruce S. Haug --Y-
[email protected]                                            Brent Hutto NNNN
[email protected]                                          Bill Heishman YYYY
[email protected]                                             B.J. Herbison ---Y
[email protected]                                              Brian T. Jue YYYY
[email protected]                                     Bill Kournikakis Y---
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[email protected]                               Bo Samuelsson YYYY
[email protected]                                              Bob McCormick YYYY
[email protected]                                       Pasvorn Boonmark YYYY
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