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Electronics, repair ( sci.electronics.repair )

From [email protected] Tue Dec  2 17:59:58 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Henry Sievers <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.electronics.repair,sci.electronics.components,sci.electronics.basics,sci.electronics.equipment,sci.electronics.misc Subject: RFD: sci.electronics.repair reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <[email protected]> Approved: [email protected] Archive-Name: sci.electronics.repair-reorg Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 01:53:33 GMT Lines: 135 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:998                       REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)             unmoderated group sci.electronics.repair.video unmoderated group sci.electronics.repair.misc (renames sci.electronics.repair)  Newsgroup lines: sci.electronics.repair.misc	Repair of other electronic equipment. sci.electronics.repair.video	Repair of televisions, monitors, and VCRs.  This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a new world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup sci.electronics.repair.video and the creation of a new newsgroup sci.electronics.repair.misc to replace the existing newsgroup sci.electronics.repair. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.  RATIONALE: all groups  The newsgroup sci.electronics.repair has become increasingly popular among electronic technicians and the general internet users. A recent survey shows that the posting volume running between 100 and 200 daily with electronic devices from A (antique radios) to Z (Zip drives) being represented  This large volume of posts makes it difficult to locate posts of particular interest. Several posters have suggested the establishment of a mailing list for those primarily interested in computer monitor repair and others want to start a VCR mailing list, to solve the searching problem. Mailing lists, however have several disadvantages, including the difficulty of establishing and maintaining the lists, inefficient use of internet bandwidth if queries and replies are sent to all on the list, and the lack of potentially useful information to the group if a response is sent only to the person making a query.  To help alleviate the problems caused by the present large posting volume, a subdivision of the group is proposed. From previous discussions in the group, some would like to see a group devoted exclusively to their own particular interest(s), but the large variety of interests of those using the group makes this impractical. Some are opposed to any subdivision because they like to browse the entire group for interesting electronic concepts. But there should be little inconvenience associated with subdivision into a small number of groups, since, with most internet service providers, groups can be displayed sequentially and browsing can easily continue from one group to the other.   From the survey previously mentioned, it appears that posts concerning televisions, computer monitors, and VCRs are about equally numerous and collectively constitute about half of the total.  Thus, creating a subgroup for these popular devices would greatly enhance the usability of the group for this large proportion of users. Further subdivision to give each of these devices their individual subgroup is attractive to some, but not to others who are interested in the repair of more than one type of electronic equipment and the possible application of ideas to more than one type of equipment. .  These three have much similar circuitry and repair problems, so it probably is reasonable to group them into one subgroup. The name sci.electronics.repair. video is proposed for this group. The newsgroup sci.electronics.repair would then be available for those interested in the repair of other electronic devices, and would be renamed to sci.electronics.repair.misc to reflect its new content.  CHARTER: sci.electronics.repair.video  Sci.electronics.repair.video is an unmoderated group for the discussion of repairing televisions, computer monitors and VCRs, only.  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: sci.electronics.repair.misc  Sci.electronics.repair.misc is an unmoderated group for the discussion of repairing miscellaneous electronic equipment of all kinds, except the video equipment included in sci.electronics.repair.video (televisions, monitors and VCRs)  END CHARTER.  CHARTER: all groups  Sci.electronics.repair.videeo and sci.electronics.misc are devoted exclusively to the discussion of repair of electronics equipment. Queries and responses are welcomed from both those inexperienced in electronic repair and from experienced electronic technicians. Topics include requests for assistance, and techniques for diagnosis and repair. Requests for assistance must include the manufacturer, and model number of the device being worked on, along with the results of any troubleshooting efforts and measurements.  Identification, cross reference and sources of component parts are part of the charter of sci.electronics.components. and such queries should be posted there.  Similarly, posts concerning test equipment, other than the repair thereof, should be sent to sci.electronics.equipment. Advertisements and discussion for buying, selling and bartering of electronic components, electronic test equipment and services should be posted to misc.industry.electronics.marketplace, and not to these groups.  Cross-posting to these groups is strongly discouraged, unless the topic overlaps the intended content of more than one newsgroup. Multiple postings (SPAM) are not allowed. Criticism of a poster''s english, spelling or intelligence, personal insults, obscene or derogatory language have no place in this group.  In the absence of a moderator to enforce these rules, it is the obligation of all posters to do so themselves.  END CHARTER.  PROCEDURE:  This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the procedure, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when this first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call for Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.  All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.  This RFD attepts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "how to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process.  DISTRIBUTION:  Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, sci.electronics.repair, sci.electronics.components, sci.electronics.basics, sci.electronics.equipment, sci.electronics.misc.  Proponent:  Henry E Sievers [email protected]