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From [email protected] Wed Jul 1 16:34:17 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2480 news.groups:53567 sci.engr:3531 sci.aeronautics:4280 sci.comp-aided:127 sci.electronics:36570 sci.engr.chem:644 sci.math.num-analysis:4969 sci.math.symbolic:4835 sci.misc:6982 Path: uunet!uunet!bounce-back From: Chris Jobling <[email protected]> Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.engr,sci.aeronautics,sci.comp-aided,sci.electronics,sci.engr.chem,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.symbolic,sci.misc Subject: RFD: sci.engr.control Followup-To: news.groups Date: 1 Jul 1992 15:45:34 -0400 Organization: University College, Swansea, Singleton Park, Swansea SA2 8PP, UK Lines: 56 Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net Control engineering is a major area of research and application that receives little coverage in USENET. Part of the reason may be that the subject is cross disciplinary and so people with problems or views maybe direct their discussions to other specialist groups. However, from running an electronic newsletter on control engineering matters, I know that there are numerous 'network literate' control engineers who might benefit from a forum of their own. Therefore I am calling for a request for discussion on the foundation of a new Newsgroup with the proposed name sci.engr.control. Here for discussion is a draft charter sci.engr.control ================ This forum aims to encourage discussion and free exchange of ideas amongst practicing control engineers, researchers and students on any subject related to the practice or theory of control engineering. Topics to discuss can vary as far as your imagination stretches within the realms of control engineering and the technology that affects it. The group aims to cover any subject related to control engineering including theory, research, and practice but particularly the use and future development of computer-based applications for the analysis, design, simulation and implementation of control systems. Examples of suitable topics would be o data definitions for control systems design packages o user interfaces for control systems design packages o system modelling languages o simulation packages o environments for the integration of CAD tools for control o the application of new computer science techniques in control systems design and implementation o commercial packages o new theories o applications of control o social and environmental impact of control o control systems education One aim is to stimulate the exchange of ideas about what software systems should be devloped to support the analysis, design and implementation of control systems with a longer term-aim of the development of guidelines or examples of good practice that will eventually bring freedom to users and developers of computer-based tools. Another aim is to provide timely notice of new academic ideas and control methods and to encourage the take-up of advanced control by industry. A further implicit aim is to try to break down the communication barriers that traditionally exist in the control community and to introduce them to the joys of the Internet, thereby widening their horizons and opening their eyes to the benefits of the free exchange of ideas that other users of computers have known for some time. -- Chris Jobling, Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering, University College, Swansea, Singleton Park, Swansea SA2 8PP, UK email: JANET: [email protected] Internet eechris%[email protected] From [email protected] Sat Aug 1 01:29:18 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2588 news.groups:54908 sci.engr:3687 sci.aeronautics:4462 sci.comp-aided:153 sci.electronics:38108 sci.engr.chem:679 sci.math.num-analysis:5218 sci.math.symbolic:5087 sci.misc:7105 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.engr,sci.aeronautics,sci.comp-aided,sci.electronics,sci.engr.chem,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.symbolic,sci.misc Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Chris Jobling) Subject: CFV: sci.engr.control Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: swansea.ac.uk Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1992 05:06:04 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 100 This is the first call for votes for an unmoderated group for discussion of topics related to the theory and practice of control engineering. The request for discussion (RFD) was published about one month ago, and the discussion surrounding the group's creation was generally positive. It's now time to put it to a vote. NAME: sci.engr.control STATUS: unmoderated CHARTER: This forum aims to encourage discussion and free exchange of ideas amongst practicing control engineers, researchers and students on any subject related to the practice or theory of control systems and control engineering. The group aims to cover any subject related to control engineering including theory, research, and practice but particularly the use and future development of computer-based applications for the analysis, design, simulation and implementation of control systems. Examples of suitable topics would be o data definitions for control systems design packages o user interfaces for control systems design packages o system modelling languages o simulation packages o environments for the integration of CAD tools for control o the application of new computer science techniques in control systems design and implementation o commercial control systems design and analysis packages o new theories o applications of control (e.g. process industries, aerospace, transport, manufacturing, ...) o real-time software o social and environmental impact of control systems o none engineering applications (e.g. economics, social, ...) o control systems education * One aim is to stimulate the exchange of ideas about what software systems should be devloped to support the analysis, design and implementation of control systems with a longer term-aim of the development of guidelines or examples of good practice that will eventually bring freedom to users and developers of computer-based tools. * Another aim is to provide timely notice of new academic ideas and control methods and to encourage the take-up of advanced control by industry. * A further implicit aim is to try to break down the communication barriers that traditionally exist in the control community and to introduce them to the joys of the Internet, thereby widening their horizons and opening their eyes to the benefits of the free exchange of ideas that other users of computers have known for some time.` VOTING PROCEDURE: Send votes to: [email protected] Preferably your message should include one of the following lines in the body of the text: I vote YES for sci.engr.control I vote NO for sci.engr.control We will be flexible in accepting other wording providing your vote is made clear and unambiguous. If we receive more than one vote from the same account; o If the votes are for the same side of the issue, We will count the votes as one vote. We will send email informing the voter that their vote is only being counted once. o If the votes are for opposite sides of the issue, We will throw out both votes. I will send email informing the voter that their vote is being discounted in this case. The voting period ends at 00:00 BST (01:00 GMT) on Monday, Aug 31, 1992. In order for your vote to be counted we must receive it before then. COMMENTS: The guidelines for successful creation of a new newsgroup require that the vote taker receive 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and that the YES votes be at least 2/3 of all valid votes cast. We will post a mass acknowledgement of votes received and further calls for votes at approximately weekly intervals. Note, Votes are being counted by my friend and colleague Roumen Antonov. Please send your votes to him <[email protected]> not to me. I am going on vacation and so any votes that are sent to me will not be seen until September, after the vote concludes. Chris From [email protected] Thu Aug 13 00:59:42 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2624 news.groups:55422 sci.engr:3724 sci.aeronautics:4523 sci.comp-aided:156 sci.electronics:38667 sci.engr.chem:698 sci.math.num-analysis:5313 sci.math.symbolic:5147 sci.misc:7157 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.engr,sci.aeronautics,sci.comp-aided,sci.electronics,sci.engr.chem,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.symbolic,sci.misc Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Roumen Antonov) Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: sci.engr.control Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: [email protected] (r b antonov) Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci. Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:42:30 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 328 This is the second call for votes for an unmoderated group for discussion of topics related to the theory and practice of control engineering. The request for discussion (RFD) was published about one month ago, and the discussion surrounding the group's creation was generally positive. It's now time to put it to a vote. NAME: sci.engr.control STATUS: unmoderated CHARTER: This forum aims to encourage discussion and free exchange of ideas amongst practicing control engineers, researchers and students on any subject related to the practice or theory of control systems and control engineering. The group aims to cover any subject related to control engineering including theory, research, and practice but particularly the use and future development of computer-based applications for the analysis, design, simulation and implementation of control systems. Examples of suitable topics would be o data definitions for control systems design packages o user interfaces for control systems design packages o system modelling languages o simulation packages o environments for the integration of CAD tools for control o the application of new computer science techniques in control systems design and implementation o commercial control systems design and analysis packages o new theories o applications of control (e.g. process industries, aerospace, transport, manufacturing, ...) o real-time software o social and environmental impact of control systems o none engineering applications (e.g. economics, social, ...) o control systems education * One aim is to stimulate the exchange of ideas about what software systems should be devloped to support the analysis, design and implementation of control systems with a longer term-aim of the development of guidelines or examples of good practice that will eventually bring freedom to users and developers of computer-based tools. * Another aim is to provide timely notice of new academic ideas and control methods and to encourage the take-up of advanced control by industry. * A further implicit aim is to try to break down the communication barriers that traditionally exist in the control community and to introduce them to the joys of the Internet, thereby widening their horizons and opening their eyes to the benefits of the free exchange of ideas that other users of computers have known for some time.` VOTING PROCEDURE: Send votes to me: [email protected] Preferably your message should include one of the following lines in the body of the text: I vote YES for sci.engr.control I vote NO for sci.engr.control We will be flexible in accepting other wording providing your vote is made clear and unambiguous. If we receive more than one vote from the same account; o If the votes are for the same side of the issue, We will count the votes as one vote. We will send email informing the voter that their vote is only being counted once. o If the votes are for opposite sides of the issue, We will throw out both votes. I will send email informing the voter that their vote is being discounted in this case. The voting period ends at 00:00 BST (01:00 GMT) on Monday, Aug 31, 1992. In order for your vote to be counted we must receive it before then. COMMENTS: The guidelines for successful creation of a new newsgroup require that the vote taker receive 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and that the YES votes be at least 2/3 of all valid votes cast. We will post a mass acknowledgement of votes received and further calls for votes at approximately weekly intervals. -------------------------------------------------------------------- To date I have received votes from 216 people. I tried to acknowledge the receipt of each vote. However some of my replies were returned to me by the mailer. If you have sent me your vote but haven't heard from me please check whether your name is in the list below. If not, please drop me a message. Thank you! Roumen -------------------------------------------------------------------- At 2 p.m.(GMT) on 12 August I have received votes from: (in alphabetical order) -------------------------------------------------------------------- A M. Vann <[email protected]> Ahmed Zaki <[email protected]> Alan J. Laub <[email protected]> Alec Stothert <[email protected]> Alex Dommasch <[email protected]> Alex Stankovic <[email protected]> Allan Longley <[email protected]> Ananda Kishore <[email protected]> Andre Tits <[email protected]> Andrew Paice <[email protected]> Armand Brucato <[email protected]> Art Krener <[email protected]> Austin Spang <[email protected]> [email protected] Banavar Sridhar <[email protected]> Barry Haynes <[email protected]> Bernard Adrian Frankpitt <[email protected]> Bibhuti Bhusan Banerjee <[email protected]> Bjorn Lindberg <[email protected]> Bjorn Wittenmark <[email protected]> Blessed Ballesteros <[email protected]> Bo G|ransson <[email protected]> Brad Wallet <[email protected]> Bradley Dickinson <[email protected]> Brent R. Young <[email protected]> Brian B. Young <[email protected]> Bruce Jackson <[email protected]> C Y Wang <[email protected]> [email protected] COLLIN MCCULLEY <[email protected]> Carl Rigney <[email protected]> Charles Francois <[email protected]> Charles Jacob Cohen <[email protected]> Chin E. Lin <[email protected]> Ching-Long Wu <[email protected]> Chris Jobling <[email protected]> Christer Hansson <[email protected]> Christopher B. Lynch <[email protected]> Christopher Mullins <[email protected]> Chuck Eubank <[email protected]> Coman B T <[email protected]> D_SIMON <[email protected]> [email protected] Daniel Abramovitch[email protected]> Daniel Larsson <[email protected]> David Brumbley <[email protected]> David Jenkins <[email protected]> David Marshall <[email protected]> Dean Redelinghuys <[email protected]> Diane Apgar <[email protected]> Don DeVoe <[email protected]> Donald Russell <[email protected]> Dorota Temple <[email protected]> Ed McGuire <[email protected]> Edward Scott Meadows <[email protected]> [email protected] Fong Kin Fui <[email protected]> Fred R. Beck <[email protected]> Geoff Allen <[email protected]> Gerry Roston <[email protected]> Goran Hagg <[email protected]> Graham Pye <[email protected]> Grant Grobbelaar <[email protected]> Hans-Peter Graenicher <[email protected]> Hassan Saleh <[email protected]> Huub Bakker <[email protected]> Ian Harvey <[email protected]> Ian R. Searle <[email protected]> Ian Richard Petersen <[email protected]> Ike Stoddard <[email protected]> [email protected] James Dimos Dimarogonas <[email protected]> Jamie Burnside <[email protected]> Javier C. Caballero <[email protected]> Jeff Joslin <[email protected]> Jeff deRienzo [email protected]> Jeffrey C. Kantor <[email protected]> Jeremy Ginger <[email protected]> Jerzy Moscinski <[email protected]> Jinghong CHEN <[email protected]> Joel C. MacMurray <[email protected]> Johan Pensar RT <[email protected]> John Duffie <[email protected]> John Edmunds <[email protected]> John Harkin <[email protected]> John King <[email protected]> John P. Fletcher <[email protected]> John P. Havener <[email protected]> John Phillips <[email protected]> John R. Dooley <[email protected]> John W. Eaton <[email protected]> John Watkins <[email protected]> John van der Hoek <[email protected]> K A Edge <[email protected]> K.-C. Wen <[email protected]> Ken Cooke <[email protected]> Ken Hunt <[email protected]> Kenneth A. Loparo <[email protected]> Kenneth Holmstr|m <[email protected]> Kent Schnaith <[email protected]> Kim DeVaughn <[email protected]> Kim LAW <[email protected]> Knut Gundersen <[email protected]> Kristinn Kristinsson <[email protected]> Kwang-Lay Chen <[email protected]> L.Y.E.Cheung <[email protected]> Lawrence Robinson <[email protected]> Lih-Chyun S Shu <[email protected]> Looi Kwok Onn <[email protected]> Lou Russo <[email protected]> M. Stote <[email protected]> MCMURRAY,GARY V <[email protected]> Magnus Rahm <[email protected]> Magnus Rimvall <[email protected]> Malcolm Good <[email protected]> Mandel, Jeff E <[email protected]> Mark E. Kotanchek <[email protected]> Mark Takacs <[email protected]> [email protected] Martin Czigler <[email protected]> Martin Rickli <[email protected]> Mats Andersson <[email protected]> Mats Molander <[email protected]> Matt Fryer <[email protected]> Matt Wette <[email protected]> Meenan Vishnu <[email protected]> Mehmet M. Kayaalp <[email protected]> Micael Karlberg <[email protected]> Michael C. Grant <[email protected]> Michael Corvin <[email protected]> Michael Usher <[email protected]> Mike Branicky <[email protected]> Mike Caldwell <[email protected]> Min Chen <[email protected]> N.Sundararajan <[email protected]> Nasser Abbasi <[email protected]> Netter Thomas <[email protected]> Ole Ravn <[email protected]> Per Erik Mode'n <[email protected]> Peter J Turner <[email protected]> Peter J. Boulay <[email protected]> Peter Jansen <[email protected]> Phil Howard <[email protected]> Philip Miller <[email protected]> Pino Porciello <[email protected]> Pranob Banerjee <[email protected]> Prasad Padmanabhan <[email protected]> R. Jayakrishnan <[email protected]> R.Chaplin <[email protected]> RAI Ranjan <[email protected]> [email protected] RG CAMERON <[email protected]> Ravi Gopinath <[email protected]> Ravi Rajamani <[email protected]> Ravichandran (Sunmoon) <[email protected]> Reece Pollack <[email protected]> Richard H. Miller <[email protected]> Richard Kulawiec <[email protected]> Richard Yee <[email protected]> Rob Sherwood <[email protected]> Rob Spence <[email protected]> Rob Stengel <[email protected]> Robert White <[email protected]> Roger Germundsson <[email protected]> Roger S Powell <[email protected]> Ron Hatcher <[email protected]> Roumen Antonov <[email protected]> Russell Jones <[email protected]> Ryou Kondo <[email protected]> SDEVARA1%[email protected] STEVE KAHNE <[email protected]> Sascha Wildner <[email protected]> Scott Morgan <[email protected]> Sheena MacKenzie <[email protected]> Sian Hope <[email protected]> Siva Prasad <[email protected]> Sridhar Venkataraman <[email protected]> Steve Watt <[email protected]> Syed Khaleel Ahmed <[email protected]> T Crummey <[email protected]> T Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> [email protected] Taki Milionis <[email protected]> Teng-Tiow TAY <[email protected]> Tom Dickens <[email protected]> Tom Meadowcroft <[email protected]> Tomas McKelvey <[email protected]> Tony Barr <[email protected]> Torbj|rn Andersson <[email protected]> Trevor Jackson <[email protected]> Ulf Olsson <[email protected]> Vasnani <[email protected]> Vaughan Roberts <[email protected]> [email protected] Walter Santarelli <[email protected]> Wei Ren [email protected]> [email protected] e-Floyd B. Hanson <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Jan Maciejowski) jphilip%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] m0039%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Thanks to all who responded! From [email protected] Thu Aug 27 01:15:26 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2652 news.groups:55822 sci.engr:3753 sci.aeronautics:4574 sci.comp-aided:157 sci.electronics:39263 sci.engr.chem:723 sci.math.num-analysis:5417 sci.math.symbolic:5226 sci.misc:7194 comp.software-eng:10441 comp.theory.dynamic-sys:991 comp.theory.self-org-sys:342 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.engr,sci.aeronautics,sci.comp-aided,sci.electronics,sci.engr.chem,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.symbolic,sci.misc,comp.software-eng,comp.theory.dynamic-sys,comp.theory.self-org-sys Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Roumen Antonov) Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: sci.engr.control Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Keywords: new newsgroup, control, dynamic systems, CACSD, computer-aided engineering Sender: [email protected]uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: [email protected] (r b antonov) Organization: University College of Swansea, UK Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:57:32 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 461 This is the third, final call for votes for an unmoderated group for discussion of topics related to the theory and practice of control engineering. The request for discussion (RFD) was published about two months ago, and the discussion surrounding the group's creation was generally positive. The call for votes (CFV) was initially posted about 20 days ago and many people responded (the acknowledgement is later in this posting). Here is the proposal for the new newsgroup: ------------------------------------------------------- NAME: sci.engr.control STATUS: unmoderated CHARTER: This forum aims to encourage discussion and free exchange of ideas amongst practicing control engineers, researchers and students on any subject related to the practice or theory of control systems and control engineering. The group aims to cover any subject related to control engineering including theory, research, and practice but particularly the use and future development of computer-based applications for the analysis, design, simulation and implementation of control systems. Examples of suitable topics would be o data definitions for control systems design packages o user interfaces for control systems design packages o system modelling languages o simulation packages o environments for the integration of CAD tools for control o the application of new computer science techniques in control systems design and implementation o commercial control systems design and analysis packages o new theories o applications of control (e.g. process industries, aerospace, transport, manufacturing, ...) o real-time software o social and environmental impact of control systems o none engineering applications (e.g. economics, social, ...) o control systems education * One aim is to stimulate the exchange of ideas about what software systems should be devloped to support the analysis, design and implementation of control systems with a longer term-aim of the development of guidelines or examples of good practice that will eventually bring freedom to users and developers of computer-based tools. * Another aim is to provide timely notice of new academic ideas and control methods and to encourage the take-up of advanced control by industry. * A further implicit aim is to try to break down the communication barriers that traditionally exist in the control community and to introduce them to the joys of the Internet, thereby widening their horizons and opening their eyes to the benefits of the free exchange of ideas that other users of computers have known for some time.` VOTING PROCEDURE: Send ALL votes to me: [email protected] Preferably your message should include one of the following lines in the body of the text: I vote YES for sci.engr.control I vote NO for sci.engr.control We will be flexible in accepting other wording providing your vote is made clear and unambiguous. If we receive more than one vote from the same account; o If the votes are for the same side of the issue, We will count the votes as one vote. We will send email informing the voter that their vote is only being counted once. o If the votes are for opposite sides of the issue, We will throw out both votes. I will send email informing the voter that their vote is being discounted in this case. The voting period ends at 00:00 BST (01:00 GMT) on Monday, Aug 31, 1992. In order for your vote to be counted we must receive it before then. COMMENTS: The guidelines for successful creation of a new newsgroup require that the vote taker receive 100 more YES votes than NO votes, and that the YES votes be at least 2/3 of all valid votes cast. ********************************************************* * IMPORTANT!!! * * ************** * * If you want to cast your vote, please make sure that * * I receive your message before 00:00 BST (01:00 GMT) * * on Monday, Aug 31, 1992! * * (Allow 28 days for delivery ;-) ) * ********************************************************* ===================================================================== VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT To date I have received votes from 333 people. I tried to acknowledge the receipt of each vote. However some of my replies were returned to me by the mailer. If you have sent your vote but haven't heard from me please check whether your name is in the list below. If not, please drop me a message. Thank you! Roumen -------------------------------------------------------------------- Until 12 p.m.(GMT) on 25 August I have received votes from: (in alphabetical order) -------------------------------------------------------------------- A M. Vann <[email protected]> Ahmed Zaki <[email protected]> Alan J. Laub <[email protected]> Alec Stothert <[email protected]> Alex Dommasch <[email protected]> Alex Stankovic <[email protected]> Allan Longley <[email protected]> Anand Praturi <[email protected]> Ananda Kishore <[email protected]> Andre Tits <[email protected]> Andrew Mullhaupt <[email protected]> Andrew Paice <[email protected]> Ann Berner <[email protected]> Appa Madiwale <[email protected]> Armand Brucato <[email protected]> Art Krener <[email protected]> Ashok Iyer <[email protected]> Ashok Machcha <[email protected]> Austin Spang <[email protected]> [email protected] Banavar Sridhar <[email protected]> Barry Haynes <[email protected]> Bernard Adrian Frankpitt <[email protected]> Bibhuti Bhusan Banerjee <[email protected]> Bill Moore <[email protected]> Bjorn Lindberg <[email protected]> Bjorn Wittenmark <[email protected]> Blessed Ballesteros <[email protected]> Bo G|ransson <[email protected]> Bob Antia <[email protected]> Brad Wallet <[email protected]> Bradley Dickinson <[email protected]> Brent R. Young <[email protected]> Brian B. Young <[email protected]> Brian Kemper <[email protected]> Bruce Jackson <[email protected]> C Y Wang <[email protected]> [email protected] COLLIN MCCULLEY <[email protected]> Calvin Y. Fu <[email protected]> Cameron Laird <[email protected]> Carl Rigney <[email protected]> Charles Francois <[email protected]> Charles Jacob Cohen <[email protected]> Chin E. Lin <[email protected]> Ching-Long Wu <[email protected]> Chris Jobling <[email protected]> Christer Hansson <[email protected]> Christopher B. Lynch <[email protected]> Christopher Mullins <[email protected]> Chuck Eubank <[email protected]> Coman B T <[email protected]> DOUGLAS COFFMAN <[email protected]> D_SIMON <[email protected]> Dan Kerl <[email protected]> [email protected] Daniel Abramovitch [email protected]> Daniel Larsson <[email protected]> Daniel Offutt <[email protected]> David A. Nelson [email protected]> David Brumbley <[email protected]> David Jenkins <[email protected]> David L. Hanson <[email protected]> David Marshall <[email protected]> David McLeod <[email protected]> David Voracek <[email protected]> Dean Redelinghuys <[email protected]> Dennis Wong <[email protected]> Diane Apgar <[email protected]> Dick Palas <[email protected]> Dimitrios P. Tsakiris <[email protected]> Don DeVoe <[email protected]> Donald Russell <[email protected]> Dorota Temple <[email protected]> Drago Indjic <[email protected]> Dwight Aplevich <[email protected]> Ed Bailey <[email protected]> Ed McGuire <[email protected]> Edward D. Biggs [email protected]> Edward Scott Meadows <[email protected]> Erik Wolff Kjemiteknikk <[email protected]> [email protected] Fong Kin Fui <[email protected]> Frank Allgower <[email protected]> Fred Putnam [email protected]> Fred R. Beck <[email protected]> Geoff Allen <[email protected]> George Carrette <[email protected]> Gerry Roston <[email protected]> Glen Wolfe <[email protected]> Goran Hagg <[email protected]> Graham Pye <[email protected]> Grant Grobbelaar <[email protected]> Greg Hargrove [email protected]> Greg Olsen <[email protected]> Gregory G. Woodbury <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Hans-Peter Graenicher <[email protected]> Hassan Saleh <[email protected]> Hendra Wahyudi <[email protected]> Howard Feldstein <[email protected]> Huub Bakker <[email protected]> Ian Harvey <[email protected]> Ian R. Searle <[email protected]> Ian Richard Petersen <[email protected]> Ike Stoddard <[email protected]> Irving Lefkowitz <[email protected]> J.J. McCarthy <[email protected]> [email protected] James B. Rawlings <[email protected]> James Dimos Dimarogonas <[email protected]> James H. Taylor <[email protected] James J. Downs <[email protected]> James Whidborne <[email protected]> Jamie Burnside <[email protected]> Javier C. Caballero <[email protected]> Jeff Joslin <[email protected]> Jeff deRienzo [email protected]> Jeffrey C. Kantor <[email protected]> Jeremy Ginger <[email protected]> Jerzy Moscinski <[email protected]> Jiangbin Sun <[email protected]> Jim Ault <[email protected]> Jinghong CHEN <[email protected]> Jiri Klemes <[email protected]> Joe F. Junker <[email protected]> Joe Pahle <[email protected]> Joel C. MacMurray <[email protected]> Johan Pensar RT <[email protected]> John C Kiss <[email protected]> John Duffie <[email protected]> John Edmunds <[email protected]> John Harkin <[email protected]> John King <[email protected]> John P. Fletcher <[email protected]> John P. Havener <[email protected]> John Phillips <[email protected]> John R. Dooley <[email protected]> John Vorwald <[email protected]> John W. Eaton <[email protected]> John Watkins <[email protected]> John van der Hoek <[email protected]> K A Edge <[email protected]> K.-C. Wen <[email protected]> Kam-Wing Li <[email protected]> Kamran Ossia <[email protected]> Karmran Ziai <[email protected]> Ken Cooke <[email protected]> Ken Hunt <[email protected]> Kenneth A. Loparo <[email protected]> Kenneth Holmstr|m <[email protected]> Kent Schnaith <[email protected]> Kim DeVaughn <[email protected]> Kim LAW <[email protected]> Knut Gundersen <[email protected]> Krister Forsman <[email protected]> Kristinn Kristinsson <[email protected]> Kwang-Lay Chen <[email protected]> L.Y.E.Cheung <[email protected]> Lambert Schomaker <[email protected]> Lawrence Robinson <[email protected]> Lih-Chyun S Shu <[email protected]> Looi Kwok Onn <[email protected]> Lou Russo <[email protected]> M. Stote <[email protected]> MCMURRAY,GARY V <[email protected]> Magnus Rahm <[email protected]> Magnus Rimvall <[email protected]> Malcolm Good <[email protected]> Mamdouh Refaat <[email protected]> Mandel, Jeff E <[email protected]> Marc Buchner <[email protected]> Mark Alan Erickson <[email protected]> Mark E. Kotanchek <[email protected]> Mark Johnson <[email protected]> Mark Takacs <[email protected]> [email protected] Martin Czigler <[email protected]> Martin Rickli <[email protected]> Mats Andersson <[email protected]> Mats Molander <[email protected]> Matt Fryer <[email protected]> Matt Wette <[email protected]> Meenan Vishnu <[email protected]> Mehmet M. Kayaalp <[email protected]> Micael Karlberg <[email protected]> Michael C. Grant <[email protected]> Michael Corvin <[email protected]> Michael D. Majors <[email protected]> Michael Usher <[email protected]> Michel COMBES <[email protected]> Mike Baranowski <[email protected]> Mike Branicky <[email protected]> Mike Caldwell <[email protected]> Min Chen <[email protected]> N.Sundararajan <[email protected]> Nasser Abbasi <[email protected]> Netter Thomas <[email protected]> Noel H. Bell <[email protected]> Nolan Read <[email protected]> Ole Ravn <[email protected]> Osborne King <[email protected]> PHANI B. SISTU <[email protected]> Patrick Sagaser <[email protected]> Paul Choudhury <[email protected]> Paul Parry <[email protected]> Per Erik Mode'n <[email protected]> Peter Humphrey <[email protected]> Peter J Turner <[email protected]> Peter J. Boulay <[email protected]> Peter Jansen <[email protected]> Peter Shea <[email protected]> Phil Howard <[email protected]> Philip Miller <[email protected]> Philip.M. Sargent <[email protected]> Philippe Villard <[email protected]> Pino Porciello <[email protected]> Pranob Banerjee <[email protected]> Prasad Padmanabhan <[email protected]> R D Felton" <[email protected]> R Kurt Heinzmann <[email protected]> R. Brooks Reed <[email protected]> R. Jayakrishnan <[email protected]> R.Chaplin <[email protected]> R.L.Christiansen <[email protected]> RAI Ranjan <[email protected]> RAI Ranjan <[email protected]> [email protected] RG CAMERON <[email protected]> RICK PITTARD <[email protected]> Randy Baer <[email protected]> Ravi Gopinath <[email protected]> Ravi Rajamani <[email protected]> Ravichandran (Sunmoon) <[email protected]> Reece Pollack <[email protected]> Rich G. Ciccotti <[email protected]> Richard Banks <[email protected]> Richard H. Miller <[email protected]> Richard Kulawiec <[email protected]> Richard Lemieux <[email protected]> Richard Yee <[email protected]> Rick Lind <[email protected]> Rob A. Vingerhoeds <[email protected]> Rob Sherwood <[email protected]> Rob Spence <[email protected]> Rob Stengel <[email protected]> Robert Andrew <[email protected]> Robert Raisch <[email protected]> Robert White <[email protected]> Roger Germundsson <[email protected]> Roger S Powell <[email protected]> Ron Graham <[email protected]> Ron Hatcher <[email protected]> Ross McAree <[email protected]> Roumen Antonov <[email protected]> Russell Jones <[email protected]> Ryou Kondo <[email protected]> SDEVARA1%[email protected] STEVE KAHNE <[email protected]> Saeed <[email protected]> Sam Sirlin <[email protected]> Sascha Wildner <[email protected]> Scott Bushman <[email protected]> Scott Morgan <[email protected]> Sheena MacKenzie <[email protected]> Sian Hope <[email protected]> Sinan Karahan <[email protected]> Siva Prasad <[email protected]> Sridhar Venkataraman <[email protected]> Stephanie Butler <[email protected]> Stephen M. Miller <[email protected]> Steve Baldwin <[email protected]> Steve Clift <[email protected]> Steve Watt <[email protected]> Sue J. Worden <[email protected]> Sven Hammarling <[email protected]> Sven Heinicke <[email protected]> Syed Khaleel Ahmed <[email protected]> T Crummey <[email protected]> T Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> [email protected] THOMAS D MAIER <[email protected]> Taki Milionis <[email protected]> Teng-Tiow TAY <[email protected]> Terry Cline <[email protected]> Tobin C. Anthony <[email protected]> Tom Bryan <[email protected]> Tom Dickens <[email protected]> Tom Meadowcroft <[email protected]> Tomas McKelvey <[email protected]> Tony Barr <[email protected]> Torbj|rn Andersson <[email protected]> Tore Tjomsland <[email protected]> Trevor Jackson <[email protected]> Troy Gutjahr [email protected]> Ulf Olsson <[email protected]> Vadim Polyakov <[email protected]> Vasnani <[email protected]> Vaughan Roberts <[email protected]> Vernon L. Chi <[email protected]> Vic Aitken <[email protected]> Vijaykumar M. Hanagandi <[email protected]> [email protected] Walter Santarelli <[email protected]> Wayne Smith <[email protected]> Wei Ren [email protected]> William Hawkins <[email protected]> William Reiken <[email protected]> Yong You <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] e-Floyd B. Hanson <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] (Jan Maciejowski) jphilip%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] m0039%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Thanks to all who responded! From [email protected] Fri Sep 4 17:18:32 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2691 news.groups:56226 sci.engr:3786 sci.aeronautics:4619 sci.comp-aided:160 sci.electronics:39605 sci.engr.chem:746 sci.math.num-analysis:5501 sci.math.symbolic:5279 sci.misc:7254 comp.software-eng:10509 comp.theory.dynamic-sys:996 comp.theory.self-org-sys:344 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.engr,sci.aeronautics,sci.comp-aided,sci.electronics,sci.engr.chem,sci.math.num-analysis,sci.math.symbolic,sci.misc,comp.software-eng,comp.theory.dynamic-sys,comp.theory.self-org-sys Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Chris Jobling <[email protected]> Subject: RESULT: sci.engr.control passes 390:12 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: swansea.ac.uk Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:01:37 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 480 The voting period for the unmoderated group sci.engr.control is over. The group passed overwhelmingly with 390 votes for and 12 votes against. Here is the charter ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NAME: sci.engr.control STATUS: unmoderated CHARTER: This forum aims to encourage discussion and free exchange of ideas amongst practicing control engineers, researchers and students on any subject related to the practice or theory of control systems and control engineering. The group aims to cover any subject related to control engineering including theory, research, and practice but particularly the use and future development of computer-based applications for the analysis, design, simulation and implementation of control systems. Examples of suitable topics would be o data definitions for control systems design packages o user interfaces for control systems design packages o system modelling languages o simulation packages o environments for the integration of CAD tools for control o the application of new computer science techniques in control systems design and implementation o commercial control systems design and analysis packages o new theories o applications of control (e.g. process industries, aerospace, transport, manufacturing, ...) o real-time software o social and environmental impact of control systems o none engineering applications (e.g. economics, social, ...) o control systems education * One aim is to stimulate the exchange of ideas about what software systems should be devloped to support the analysis, design and implementation of control systems with a longer term-aim of the development of guidelines or examples of good practice that will eventually bring freedom to users and developers of computer-based tools. * Another aim is to provide timely notice of new academic ideas and control methods and to encourage the take-up of advanced control by industry. * A further implicit aim is to try to break down the communication barriers that traditionally exist in the control community and to introduce them to the joys of the Internet, thereby widening their horizons and opening their eyes to the benefits of the free exchange of ideas that other users of computers have known for some time. Final analysis of votes YES votes received: A M. Vann <[email protected]> Aaron Owens <[email protected]> Ahmed Zaki <[email protected]> Alan J. Laub <[email protected]> Alex Stankovic <[email protected]> Allan Longley <[email protected]> Anand Praturi <[email protected]> Ananda Kishore <[email protected]> Andre Tits <[email protected]> Andrew A. Anda <[email protected]> Andrew Mullhaupt <[email protected]> Andrew Paice <[email protected]> Andrew Telford <[email protected]> Ann Berner <[email protected]> Appa Madiwale <[email protected]> Armand Brucato <[email protected]> Art Krener <[email protected]> Ashok Iyer <[email protected]> Ashok Machcha <[email protected]> Austin Spang <[email protected]> [email protected] Banavar Sridhar <[email protected]> Barry Haynes <[email protected]> Bernard Adrian Frankpitt <[email protected]> Bibhuti Bhusan Banerjee <[email protected]> Bill Moore <[email protected]> Bjorn Lindberg <[email protected]> Bjorn Wittenmark <[email protected]> Blessed Ballesteros <[email protected]> Bo G|ransson <[email protected]> Bob Antia <[email protected]> Brad Perry <[email protected]> Bradley Dickinson <[email protected]> Brent R. Young <[email protected]> Brian B. Young <[email protected]> Brian Kemper <[email protected]> Bruce Jackson <[email protected]> C Y Wang <[email protected]> [email protected] COLLIN MCCULLEY <[email protected]> Calvin Y. Fu <[email protected]> Cameron Laird <[email protected]> Charles Francois <[email protected]> Charles Jacob Cohen <[email protected]> Chima Njaka <[email protected]> Chin E. Lin <[email protected]> Ching-Long Wu <[email protected]> Chris Jobling <[email protected]> Christer Hansson <[email protected]> Christopher B. Lynch <[email protected]> Christopher Boek <[email protected]> Christopher Mullins <[email protected]> Chuck Eubank <[email protected]> Chujen Lin <[email protected]> [email protected] Claude Huss <[email protected]> Coman B T <[email protected]> DOUGLAS COFFMAN <[email protected]> D_SIMON <[email protected]> Dan Kerl <[email protected]> [email protected] Daniel Abramovitch [email protected]> Daniel Larsson <[email protected]> Daniel Offutt <[email protected]> Darren M Barborak <[email protected]> David A. Nelson [email protected]> David Brumbley <[email protected]> David Jenkins <[email protected]> David L. Elliott <[email protected]> David L. Hanson <[email protected]> David McLeod <[email protected]> David Rathbun <[email protected]> David Voracek <[email protected]> David Wheeler <[email protected]> Dean Redelinghuys <[email protected]> Dennis Wong <[email protected]> Diane Apgar <[email protected]> Dick Palas <[email protected]> Dimitrios P. 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Thobe <[email protected]> Goran Hagg <[email protected]> Graham Pye <[email protected]> Grant Grobbelaar <[email protected]> Greg Hargrove [email protected]> Greg Olsen <[email protected]> Gregory G. Woodbury <[email protected]> Guy Dumont <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] Hans-Peter Graenicher <[email protected]> Hassan Saleh <[email protected]> Hendra Wahyudi <[email protected]> Howard Feldstein <[email protected]> Huub Bakker <[email protected]> Ian Harvey <[email protected]> Ian R. Searle <[email protected]> Ian Richard Petersen <[email protected]> Ike Stoddard <[email protected]> Irving Lefkowitz <[email protected]> J.J. McCarthy <[email protected]> [email protected] JIM GERSTLE <[email protected]> James B. Rawlings <[email protected]> James Dimos Dimarogonas <[email protected]> James H. Taylor <[email protected] James J. Downs <[email protected]> James Whidborne <[email protected]> Jamie Burnside <[email protected]> Jamison Graff <[email protected]> Javier C. Caballero <[email protected]> Jeff Allen <[email protected]> Jeff Garland <[email protected]> Jeff Joslin <[email protected]> Jeff deRienzo [email protected]> Jeffrey C. Kantor <[email protected]> Jeremy Ginger <[email protected]> Jerzy Moscinski <[email protected]> Jian Zhou <[email protected]> Jiangbin Sun <[email protected]> Jim Ault <[email protected]> Jim....x3506 <[email protected]> Jinghong CHEN <[email protected]> Jiri Klemes <[email protected]> Joe F. Junker <[email protected]> Joe Pahle <[email protected]> Joel C. MacMurray <[email protected]> Johan Pensar RT <[email protected]> John C Kiss <[email protected]> John Duffie <[email protected]> John Edmunds <[email protected]> John G Dobnick <[email protected]> John Harkin <[email protected]> John King <[email protected]> John P. Fletcher <[email protected]> John P. Havener <[email protected]> John Phillips <[email protected]> John R. Dooley <[email protected]> John S. Novak III <[email protected]> John Vorwald <[email protected]> John W. Eaton <[email protected]> John Watkins <[email protected]> John van der Hoek <[email protected]> Jon Jacky <[email protected]> Jordan <[email protected]> K A Edge <[email protected]> K.-C. Wen <[email protected]> Kam-Wing Li <[email protected]> Kamran Ossia <[email protected]> Karmran Ziai <[email protected]> Keat-Choon Goh [email protected]> Ken Cooke <[email protected]> Ken Hunt <[email protected]> Kenneth A. Loparo <[email protected]> Kenneth Holmstr|m <[email protected]> Kent Schnaith <[email protected]> Kevin Maguire <[email protected]> Kim DeVaughn <[email protected]> Kim LAW <[email protected]> Knut Gundersen <[email protected]> Krister Forsman <[email protected]> Kristinn Kristinsson <[email protected]> Kwang-Lay Chen <[email protected]> L.Y.E.Cheung <[email protected]> Lambert Schomaker <[email protected]> Lauri Moilanen <[email protected]> Lawrence Robinson <[email protected]v.nasa.ksc.grumpy> Laxmi Prasad Musunur <[email protected]> Lih-Chyun S Shu <[email protected]> Looi Kwok Onn <[email protected]> Lou Russo <[email protected]> M. Stote <[email protected]> MCMURRAY,GARY V <[email protected]> Magnus Rahm <[email protected]> Magnus Rimvall <[email protected]> Malcolm Good <[email protected]> Mamdouh Refaat <[email protected]> Mandel, Jeff E <[email protected]> Marc Buchner <[email protected]> Marek Tuszynski <[email protected]> Mark Alan Erickson <[email protected]> Mark Andrew Austin <[email protected]> Mark Baratta <[email protected]> Mark E. Kotanchek <[email protected]> Mark Johnson <[email protected]> Mark Takacs <[email protected]> [email protected] Martin Czigler <[email protected]> Martin Rickli <[email protected]> Mats Andersson <[email protected]> Mats Molander <[email protected]> Matt Fryer <[email protected]> Matt Wette <[email protected]> Matthew Saltzman <[email protected]> Meenan Vishnu <[email protected]> Mehmet M. Kayaalp <[email protected]> Micael Karlberg <[email protected]> Michael C. Grant <[email protected]> Michael Corvin <[email protected]> Michael D. Majors <[email protected]> Michael Dyer <[email protected]> Michael Usher <[email protected]> Michel COMBES <[email protected]> Mike Baranowski <[email protected]> Mike Branicky <[email protected]> Mike Caldwell <[email protected]> Mike Jackson <[email protected]> Min Chen <[email protected]> N. Saravanan <[email protected]> N.Sundararajan <[email protected]> Nasser Abbasi <[email protected]> Netter Thomas <[email protected]> Noel H. Bell <[email protected]> Nolan Read <[email protected]> Norm Jerome <[email protected]> Norm Jerome <[email protected]> Nuno Oliveira <[email protected]> Ole Ravn <[email protected]> Ole Robert Hestvik <[email protected]> Ommund Oegaard <[email protected]> Osborne King <[email protected]> PHANI B. SISTU <[email protected]> Patrick Sagaser <[email protected]> Paul Choudhury <[email protected]> Paul Parry <[email protected]> Per Erik Mode'n <[email protected]> Per Hagander <[email protected]> Peter Humphrey <[email protected]> Peter J Turner <[email protected]> Peter Jansen <[email protected]> Peter Shea <[email protected]> Phil Howard <[email protected]> Phil Malin <[email protected]> Philip Miller <[email protected]> Philip.M. Sargent <[email protected]> Philippe VIJGHEN <[email protected]> Philippe Villard <[email protected]> Pino Porciello <[email protected]> Pranob Banerjee <[email protected]> Prasad Padmanabhan <[email protected]> R D Felton" <[email protected]> R Kurt Heinzmann <[email protected]> R. Brooks Reed <[email protected]> R. Jayakrishnan <[email protected]> R.Chaplin <[email protected]> R.L.Christiansen <[email protected]> RAI Ranjan <[email protected]> RAI Ranjan <[email protected]> [email protected] RG CAMERON <[email protected]> RICK PITTARD <[email protected]> Randy A. Graca <[email protected]> Randy Baer <[email protected]> Ravi Gopinath <[email protected]> Ravi Rajamani <[email protected]> Ravichandran (Sunmoon) <[email protected]> Reece Pollack <[email protected]> Rich G. Ciccotti <[email protected]> Richard A. Fowell <[email protected]> Richard Banks <[email protected]> Richard Lemieux <[email protected]> Richard Yee <[email protected]> Rick Lind <[email protected]> Rob A. Vingerhoeds <[email protected]> Rob Sherwood <[email protected]> Rob Spence <[email protected]> Rob Stengel <[email protected]> Robert Andrew <[email protected]> Robert Raisch <[email protected]> Robert White <[email protected]> Roger Germundsson <[email protected]> Roger S Powell <[email protected]> Ron Graham <[email protected]> Ron Hatcher <[email protected]> Ross McAree <[email protected]> Roumen Antonov <[email protected]> Russell Jones <[email protected]> Ryou Kondo <[email protected]> S.T. Venkataraman <[email protected]> SDEVARA1%[email protected] STEVE KAHNE <[email protected]> Saeed <[email protected]> Sam Sirlin <[email protected]> Sascha Wildner <[email protected]> Scott Bushman <[email protected]> Scott Hawker <[email protected]> Scott Morgan <[email protected]> Sheena MacKenzie <[email protected]> Sian Hope <[email protected]> Simo H S{teri <[email protected]> Sinan Karahan <[email protected]> Siva Prasad <[email protected]> Sridhar Venkataraman <[email protected]> Stefan Weijers <[email protected]> Stephanie Butler <[email protected]> Stephen M. Miller <[email protected]> Steve Baldwin <[email protected]> Steve Clift <[email protected]> Steve Watt <[email protected]> Steven E. Arlow <[email protected]> Sue J. Worden <[email protected]> Sven Hammarling <[email protected]> Syed Khaleel Ahmed <[email protected]> T Crummey <[email protected]> T Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> [email protected] THOMAS D MAIER <[email protected]> Taki Milionis <[email protected]> Teng-Tiow TAY <[email protected]> Terho Jussila <[email protected]> Terry Cline <[email protected]> Tobin C. Anthony <[email protected]> Tom Bryan <[email protected]> Tom Dickens <[email protected]> Tom Meadowcroft <[email protected]> Tomas McKelvey <[email protected]> Tonnie Geraets <[email protected]> Tony Barr <[email protected]> Torbj|rn Andersson <[email protected]> Tore Tjomsland <[email protected]> Trevor Jackson <[email protected]> Trish [email protected]> Troy Gutjahr [email protected]> Ulf Olsson <[email protected]> Vadim Polyakov <[email protected]> Vasnani <[email protected]> Vaughan Roberts <[email protected]> Vernon L. Chi <[email protected]> Vic Aitken <[email protected]> Vic Pestone <[email protected]> Vijaykumar M. Hanagandi <[email protected]> Vittal V. Prabhu <[email protected]> [email protected] Walter Renes <[email protected]> Walter Santarelli <[email protected]> Wei Ren [email protected]> William Hawkins <[email protected]> William Reiken <[email protected]> [email protected] Y.C.Chen <[email protected]> Yong You <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] e-Floyd B. Hanson <[email protected]> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] jphilip%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] m0039%[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] NO votes received: Brad Wallet <[email protected]> Carl Rigney <[email protected]> David Marshall <[email protected]> Ed McGuire <[email protected]> Gerry Roston <[email protected]> Jan Maciejowski <[email protected]> Murray Nesbitt <[email protected]> Peter J. Boulay <[email protected]> Richard H. Miller <[email protected]> Richard Kulawiec <[email protected]> Sven Heinicke <[email protected]> Wayne Smith <[email protected]> There will now be a 5 day waiting period which time you will have a chance to correct any errors in the list of voters received. Errors should be reported to [email protected] If, after the waiting period, there were no serious objections that might invalidate the vote, the news.announce.newgroups moderator will send out the sci.engr.control message. Thanks for your interest and taking the trouble to vote. I look forward to the discussions to come. Chris Jobling ([email protected])
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