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From [email protected] Mon Mar 27 17:47:09 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Michael MacInnis) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.gis,comp.cad.autocad,sci.engr,sci.engr.civil,sci.geo.hydrology,sci.geo.eos,sci.geo.satellite-nav,sci.geo.petroleum Subject: RFD: sci.engr.surveying Followup-To: news.groups Date: 27 Mar 1995 17:22:13 -0500 Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM Lines: 79 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6506 news.groups:141514 comp.infosystems.gis:32872 comp.cad.autocad:7708 sci.engr:15021 sci.engr.civil:7601 sci.geo.hydrology:1459 sci.geo.eos:584 sci.geo.satellite-nav:4933 sci.geo.petroleum:1845                         Request for Discussion (RFD)  Newsgroup    : sci.engr.surveying Status       : Unmoderated Distribution : Worldwide Summary      : Issues related to the measurement of the surface of                the earth. Proponents   : Michael MacInnis <[email protected]> USA                Peter John Bolton <[email protected]> Malaysia   This is a formal request for discussion (RFD) on the creation of a new unmoderated newsgroup, sci.engr.surveying. This RFD is being posted in accordance with with the Guidelines For Usenet Group Creation found in news.announce.newusers, dated Nov. 2, 1994. This is a request for discussion, and is not meant to replace the actual vote. If there are no serious objections or valid arguments against the  group's formation, the CFV (call for votes) will take place 21- 30 days after the posting of this notice and will be tabulated by a neutral third party.  The Follow-up to: header will be set to news.groups, where the actual discussion will take place. To comment on the discussion, you must post to news.groups or use the follow up header. Comments sent directly to the sender, or to a newsgroup other than news.groups will have no effect on the formation of this newsgroup. To follow the discussion, you must subscribe to, or visit,   and you are encouraged to do so.  The language for this RFD was modeled after previously submitted RFDs of a similar nature. It is being cross posted to the following newsgroups:  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.infosystems.gis, comp.cad.autocad, sci.engr, sci.engr.civil, sci.geo.hydrology, sci.geo.eos,  sci.geo.satellite-nav, sci.geo.petroleum  CHARTER  This unmoderated newsgroup is being formed for the discussion of scientific and professional issues relating to earth measurement in all its forms. Topics such as; land surveying, marine surveying, hydrographic surveying, geodetic surveying, geodetic GPS positioning, geodesy, gravity models, photogrammetry, coordinate systems, datums, cartography, land information systems, statistical adjustments and analysis, etc., and legal issues relating to all of the above, are encouraged on a local and international level. Science and professionalism are the emphasis of the newsgroup, and postings relating to recreational positioning and do-it-yourself type projects are to be discouraged. Other groups currently serve this purpose.  Due to the increasingly complex and technical nature of the field, discussion of the various tools of trade, including computer programs, and their relative usefulness for specific purposes, should be encouraged. Brief announcements of new products or services, or offers of further assistance to specific posters will be encouraged, but blatant advertisement for personal gain is strongly discouraged.  RATIONALE  A forum for professionals to discuss important and timely issues related to earth measurement, positioning, and precision mapping, is long overdue. No group currently exists where surveyors in all these related fields can gather to discuss like concerns. Surveyors in these fields are posting to all those groups in which this notice appears, and possibly others as well, but they have had to search through much unrelated material for relevant information. This newsgroup will provide a much needed central location where these related professions can gather to discuss the complex and ever-changing issues of their fields. Future divisions into more specific topics may become desirable, as traffic warrants.  THE VOTING PROCESS  After the discussion period of 21-30 days, if no serious objections are raised, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be issued to the same groups in which this notice appears. The vote will be tabulated by a neutral third party, who will be selected by the established process. The voting period will be no less than 21 days. A successful vote requires that at least 100 more votes are cast for creation than against, with an overall majority of 2/3 for creation. If both these conditions are met, the new group will be announced as soon as practical thereafter.  From [email protected] Sat May 13 00:06:52 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Kenneth Herron) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.cad.autocad,comp.infosystems.gis,sci.engr,sci.engr.civil,sci.geo.eos,sci.geo.hydrology,sci.geo.petroleum,sci.geo.satellite-nav Subject: CFV: sci.engr.surveying Followup-To: poster Date: 12 May 1995 15:36:04 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 67 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 3 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6811 news.groups:149082 comp.cad.autocad:9901 comp.infosystems.gis:35117 sci.engr:16160 sci.engr.civil:8715 sci.geo.eos:669 sci.geo.hydrology:1713 sci.geo.petroleum:2331 sci.geo.satellite-nav:6183                        FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)              unmoderated/moderated group sci.engr.surveying  Newsgroups line: sci.engr.surveying	Measurement and mapping of the earth surface.   Votes must be received by 29:59:59 UTC, 2 June 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Michael MacInnis <[email protected]> or Peter John Bolton <[email protected]>.   CHARTER  This unmoderated newsgroup is being formed for the discussion of scientific and professional issues relating to earth measurement in all its forms. Topics such as; land surveying, marine surveying, hydrographic surveying, geodetic surveying, geodetic GPS positioning, geodesy, gravity models, photogrammetry, coordinate systems, datums, cartography, land information systems, statistical adjustments and analysis, etc., and legal issues relating to all of the above, are encouraged on a local and international level. Science and professionalism are the emphasis of the newsgroup, and postings relating to recreational positioning and do-it-yourself type projects are to be discouraged. Other groups currently serve this purpose.  Due to the increasingly complex and technical nature of the field, discussion of the various tools of trade, including computer programs, and their relative usefulness for specific purposes, should be encouraged. Brief announcements of new products or services, or offers of further assistance to specific posters will be encouraged, but blatant advertisement for personal gain is strongly discouraged.   RATIONALE  A forum for professionals to discuss important and timely issues related to earth measurement, positioning, and precision mapping, is long overdue. No group currently exists where surveyors in all these related fields can gather to discuss like concerns. Surveyors in these fields are posting to all those groups in which this notice appears, and possibly others as well, but they have had to search through much unrelated material for relevant information. This newsgroup will provide a much needed central location where these related professions can gather to discuss the complex and ever-changing issues of their fields. Future divisions into more specific topics may become desirable, as traffic warrants.   HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:       I vote YES on sci.engr.surveying       I vote NO on sci.engr.surveying  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.  From [email protected] Mon May 29 22:37:01 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Kenneth Herron) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.cad.autocad,comp.infosystems.gis,sci.engr,sci.engr.civil,sci.geo.eos,sci.geo.hydrology,sci.geo.petroleum,sci.geo.satellite-nav Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.engr.surveying Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 28 May 1995 19:16:49 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 108 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 3 Jun 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6921 news.groups:151542 comp.cad.autocad:10737 comp.infosystems.gis:35463 sci.engr:16498 sci.engr.civil:8969 sci.geo.eos:692 sci.geo.hydrology:1799 sci.geo.petroleum:2458 sci.geo.satellite-nav:6657                        LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)                    unmoderated group sci.engr.surveying  Newsgroups line: sci.engr.surveying	Measurement and mapping of the earth surface.   Votes must be received by 29:59:59 UTC, 2 June 1995.  This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Michael MacInnis <[email protected]> or Peter John Bolton <[email protected]>.   CHARTER  This unmoderated newsgroup is being formed for the discussion of scientific and professional issues relating to earth measurement in all its forms. Topics such as; land surveying, marine surveying, hydrographic surveying, geodetic surveying, geodetic GPS positioning, geodesy, gravity models, photogrammetry, coordinate systems, datums, cartography, land information systems, statistical adjustments and analysis, etc., and legal issues relating to all of the above, are encouraged on a local and international level. Science and professionalism are the emphasis of the newsgroup, and postings relating to recreational positioning and do-it-yourself type projects are to be discouraged. Other groups currently serve this purpose.  Due to the increasingly complex and technical nature of the field, discussion of the various tools of trade, including computer programs, and their relative usefulness for specific purposes, should be encouraged. Brief announcements of new products or services, or offers of further assistance to specific posters will be encouraged, but blatant advertisement for personal gain is strongly discouraged.   RATIONALE  A forum for professionals to discuss important and timely issues related to earth measurement, positioning, and precision mapping, is long overdue. No group currently exists where surveyors in all these related fields can gather to discuss like concerns. Surveyors in these fields are posting to all those groups in which this notice appears, and possibly others as well, but they have had to search through much unrelated material for relevant information. This newsgroup will provide a much needed central location where these related professions can gather to discuss the complex and ever-changing issues of their fields. Future divisions into more specific topics may become desirable, as traffic warrants.   HOW TO VOTE  Send MAIL to:   [email protected] Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.  Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:       I vote YES on sci.engr.surveying       I vote NO on sci.engr.surveying  You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.  Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.   sci.engr.surveying Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No bounced ballots at this time   Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                     Linda Edmondson    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                           doug scott    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                          Luton, Geoff    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                           Grant Nicklin    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                             Harald Riessner    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                   Nicholas Lauerman    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                     Noordin Ahmad    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                         Patrick McNally    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                                      Simon    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                            Tim Downey    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                    Tony Prichard    ! No vote statement in message [email protected]                                        William W. Finfrock    ! Conflicting votes  From [email protected] Fri Jun  9 01:58:46 1995 Status: RO Path: uunet!not-for-mail From: [email protected] (Kenneth Herron) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.cad.autocad,comp.infosystems.gis,sci.engr,sci.engr.civil,sci.geo.eos,sci.geo.hydrology,sci.geo.petroleum,sci.geo.satellite-nav Subject: RESULT: sci.engr.surveying Passes 486:11 Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 9 Jun 1995 01:46:41 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 600 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:7035 news.groups:152973 comp.cad.autocad:11302 comp.infosystems.gis:35704 sci.engr:16720 sci.engr.civil:9165 sci.geo.eos:710 sci.geo.hydrology:1887 sci.geo.petroleum:2537 sci.geo.satellite-nav:7019                                  RESULT                unmoderated group sci.engr.surveying passes  sci.engr.surveying results - 497 valid votes   Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------  486   11 :  Yes   Yes :   Yes : sci.engr.surveying    3 abstaining votes and 14 invalid votes  Voting for sci.engr.surveying ended 23:59:59 GMT, June 2nd.  This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting questions only contact [email protected]  For questions about the proposed group contact Michael MacInnis <[email protected]> or Peter John Bolton <[email protected]>.  There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the newsgroups shortly thereafter.   Newsgroups line: sci.engr.surveying	Measurement and mapping of the earth surface.  CHARTER  This unmoderated newsgroup is being formed for the discussion of scientific and professional issues relating to earth measurement in all its forms. Topics such as; land surveying, marine surveying, hydrographic surveying, geodetic surveying, geodetic GPS positioning, geodesy, gravity models, photogrammetry, coordinate systems, datums, cartography, land information systems, statistical adjustments and analysis, etc., and legal issues relating to all of the above, are encouraged on a local and international level. Science and professionalism are the emphasis of the newsgroup, and postings relating to recreational positioning and do-it-yourself type projects are to be discouraged. Other groups currently serve this purpose.  Due to the increasingly complex and technical nature of the field, discussion of the various tools of trade, including computer programs, and their relative usefulness for specific purposes, should be encouraged. Brief announcements of new products or services, or offers of further assistance to specific posters will be encouraged, but blatant advertisement for personal gain is strongly discouraged.   NOTE FROM THE VOTETAKER  On the last day of voting, it was determined that the votetaker's mail system had a bug and was dropping ballot acknowledgements on the floor. The votetaker elected to send a special acknowledgement message to each voter, listing the last vote recorded for that address and giving instructions to correct errors.  Regular voting closed on schedule at midnight GMT, June 2nd, but corrections to existing votes were accepted until midnight GMT, June 6th, as per the instructions.  Five corrections were received.   sci.engr.surveying Final Vote Ack  Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected]                                         Wil Anderson [email protected]                                        Jim Meredith [email protected]                                     Linda Edmondson [email protected]                                                  cis [email protected]                                      Hamilton Palmer [email protected]                                  Robert Lee Whitmire [email protected]                                         John Rovetto [email protected]                                      David L. Savage [email protected]                                  Kenneth A. Crawford [email protected]                                          Jim Ellison [email protected]                                         Loren Gibson [email protected]                                          Tony Norris [email protected]                                     Alan J Brimicombe [email protected]                                            Paul Nasland [email protected]                                          Aaron Holmwood [email protected]                                                  Gareth Evans [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]                                Donald Harold Brown [email protected]                                    Adrian Jansen [email protected]                                Bashfield, Andrew [email protected]                                             ALAN BELCHER [email protected] [email protected]                                         Andreas Bagge [email protected]                                                 Anthony Ball [email protected]                                              William D.Snell [email protected]                                      Adrian Bateman [email protected]                                            Arthur Ashley [email protected]                                            Arvid Pettersen [email protected] [email protected]                                                  Assumpcio Termens [email protected] [email protected]                                                    Jim Ault [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]                                            Brian Whiting [email protected]                                               Bahram Ghannadian [email protected]                                     George Baitch [email protected]                                               Bob Bruce [email protected] [email protected]                                          B. Dillon [email protected] [email protected]                                         James R. Bellenger [email protected]                                       Richard Bennett [email protected]                                      Margaret Berenyi [email protected]                                            Christian Berthelet [email protected]                                               Bill Thoen [email protected]                                        Brett Banadyga [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]                                                  Bill Le May [email protected]                                 Douglas P. Shannon [email protected]                                                 Bob Adam [email protected] [email protected]                                       Johannes Bouman [email protected]                                 Bishnu P. Phuyal [email protected]                                        Robert Bradford [email protected] [email protected]                                          Bruce Miner [email protected] [email protected]                                   Schubert, Bernd [email protected]                                              Bill Sprague [email protected]                                                    Wade Hammond [email protected]                                           Boris Veksler [email protected]                                         Robert Burtch [email protected]                                            Even Broeste [email protected]                                                   Chris Cook [email protected]                                       Craig Douglas [email protected]                                                Chris Rizos [email protected]                                     Scott Partridge, P.Eng [email protected]                                              Richard Cassera CATCHA%[email protected]                        [email protected] [email protected]shore.net                                              Carlton A. 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