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From Thomas W. Strong,[email protected] Wed Jan  6 21:01:15 1993
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From: Thomas W. Strong, Jr. <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt
Subject: RFD: sci.crypt.research moderated
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  This is a formal Request For Discussion regarding the establishment of
  a newsgroup to discuss scientific and technical aspects of
  cryptography. The discussion has already begun in several newsgroups, 
  this is an attempt to formalize the discussion and begin the procedure
  for the creation of a new group.

  This announcement is cross-posted to newsgroups whose readers may have
  interest in the discussion about the new group. Follow-up discussion
  will take place in "news.groups". Comments may be emailed to me at 

  [email protected]

REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
----------------------

NEWSGROUP CREATION
		create	sci.crypt.research
		Charter	Scientific and technical matters applying to
			data en/decryption. (as opposed to the law, 
			politics, licensing, and ethics thereof)

RATIONALE

  I believe that a new group is needed simply because sci.crypt is so
  high-volume, and has such a low signal-to-noise ratio, that it is
  essentially impossible to use it for professional discussion about
  cryptography.  I don't think that sci.crypt should be removed, but
  instead that a new group, which will coexist with sci.crypt, is
  necessary.

  The idea of a moderated group has been floating around for a while,
  and it appears that there is sufficient support for it.  

  However, in the interests of naming consistency, we should probably keep
  sci.crypt for the hobbyists and create a new group called
  sci.crypt.research for serious researchers.

  Such a partitioning strategy has worked previously with sci.math and
  sci.math.research, so a precedent exists for this type of action.

  The moderation policy should be fairly non-restrictive.  (Postings will
  not be rejected for not meeting academc standards, however redundant and
  off-topic postings will be rejected.)

NEWSGROUP CREATION

  Please post all discussion to news.groups.

 -----------------------------------------------------------------
  Tom Strong              N3NBB              [email protected]


From [email protected] Tue Jul 12 15:05:17 1994
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From: [email protected] (Peter Gutmann)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.crypt,comp.security.misc,alt.security
Subject: RFD: sci.crypt.research moderated
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Date: 11 Jul 1994 23:39:11 -0400
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This is a request for discussion for the creation of:
 
Newsgroup: sci.crypt.research
Charter:   The discussion of cryptology, cryptanalysis, and related issues, in
           a more civilised environment than is currently provided by
           sci.crypt.
Status:    Moderated (multiple moderators)
 
If after 30 days it has been determined that a new group is really desired, a
call for votes will be posted, with votes being recorded by a neutral third
party
 
Background and Rationale:
 
There have been a number of complaints in the past about the poor signal/noise
ration of sci.crypt, leading to an RFD for a moderated version maybe a year ago
which was abandoned due to lack of agreement on the name, charter, and just
about everything else, and an attempt at another RFD some time afterwards.
This is yet another attempt to provide for the creation of a forum with a lower
volume and higher quality of information than what is currently available in
sci.crypt.
 
Responses to the first RFD indicated that a number of crypto researchers who at
one time provided a great deal of useful input to sci.crypt had abandoned the
group entirely because any useful material was buried in a large amount of
noise.  It is hoped that the creation of a moderated group will encourage more
active debate on cryptographic research than currently takes place in
sci.crypt, while still allowing endless debates on Clipper, arguments about RSA
patents, and "can you break this" postings in the original group.
 
Moderation:
 
The group would be moderated by a number of independant moderators situated all
over the world.  This is not only advantageous (it means there's always someone
available in some time zone to respond to posts), but downright necessary due
to the peculiar restrictions placed on the dissemination of cryptographic
knowledge by the US government.  If necessary, the articles can still be posted
to sci.crypt - since a moderator doesn't select the articles which appear
there, they are not responsible for them either (or their export from the US).
However this "exporting" of postings in sci.crypt has never been an issue in
the past, and it seems unlikely to be a real problem in sci.crypt.research.
 
The selection of moderators is one issue to be resolved by this RFD.  One idea
is to allow a set number of moderators (say, 5 or 10) which would be voted on
as part of the group creation voting process, with everyone allowed to vote for
their preferred 5 or so moderators - assuming that that many people actually
volunteer for the job.  Currently there are 5 volunteers, if each of them (and
anyone else who'd like to volunteer) could write a few sentences about
themselves and either post them as a followup or send them to me, I'll collect
them all and post the list in a week or so.
 
Peter.

From [email protected] Mon Aug 15 15:00:05 1994
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From: [email protected] (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.security,comp.security.misc,sci.crypt
Subject: CFV: sci.crypt.research moderated
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		  moderated group sci.crypt.research

Newsgroups line:
sci.crypt.research      Cryptography, cryptanalysis, and related issues.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 6 September 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Dave Cornejo <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group please contact Peter Gutmann
<[email protected]>.


CHARTER

The discussion of cryptography, cryptanalysis, and related issues, in
a more civilised environment than is currently provided by sci.crypt.

There are 5 moderators:
 
  David Wagner <[email protected]>
  Greg Rose <[email protected]>
  Mark Lomas <[email protected]>
  Michael Paul Johnson <[email protected]>
  Peter Gutmann <[email protected]>

The submission address has not yet been determined.


RATIONALE: 
 
This vote is an attempt to provide for the creation of a forum with a
lower volume and higher quality of information than what is currently
available in sci.crypt.  It is hoped that the creation of a moderated
group will encourage more active debate on cryptographic research and
related issues than currently takes place in sci.crypt.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
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Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.med.immunology
      I vote NO on sci.med.immunology

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
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personal acknowledgement by mail - if you do not receive one within
several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure your
vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  No votes
will be accepted from system accounts (i.e. root, news, uucp) or
anonymous accounts.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be
published in the final voting results list.

-- 
Dave Cornejo                                There is nothing so subtle
Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
Fremont, California

From [email protected] Tue Aug 16 16:36:16 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.security,comp.security.misc,sci.crypt
Subject: CFV: sci.crypt.research moderated
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
		  moderated group sci.crypt.research

Newsgroups line:
sci.crypt.research      Cryptography, cryptanalysis, and related issues.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 6 September 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Dave Cornejo <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group please contact Peter Gutmann
<[email protected]>.


CHARTER

The discussion of cryptography, cryptanalysis, and related issues, in
a more civilised environment than is currently provided by sci.crypt.

There are 5 moderators:
 
  David Wagner <[email protected]>
  Greg Rose <[email protected]>
  Mark Lomas <[email protected]>
  Michael Paul Johnson <[email protected]>
  Peter Gutmann <[email protected]>

The submission address has not yet been determined.


RATIONALE: 
 
This vote is an attempt to provide for the creation of a forum with a
lower volume and higher quality of information than what is currently
available in sci.crypt.  It is hoped that the creation of a moderated
group will encourage more active debate on cryptographic research and
related issues than currently takes place in sci.crypt.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing
list.

The subject in your mail message must contain the name of the group to
allow your vote to be correctly handled by an automated vote-counter,
if you do not do this you will receive a message asking you to
resubmit your vote with the name of the group that you are voting for
in the subject line.

Please do not quote the entire CFV in your vote, it will confuse the
automatic vote counter and will earn you a duplicate vote message.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.crypt.research
      I vote NO on sci.crypt.research

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a
personal acknowledgement by mail - if you do not receive one within
several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure your
vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  No votes
will be accepted from system accounts (i.e. root, news, uucp) or
anonymous accounts.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be
published in the final voting results list.

-- 
Dave Cornejo                                There is nothing so subtle
Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
Fremont, California

From [email protected] Wed Aug 31 12:48:54 1994
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From: [email protected] (Dave Cornejo)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.security,comp.security.misc,sci.crypt
Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.crypt.research moderated
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                     LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                  moderated group sci.crypt.research

Newsgroups line:
sci.crypt.research      Cryptography, cryptanalysis, and related issues.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 6 September 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Dave Cornejo <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group please contact Peter Gutmann
<[email protected]>.


CHARTER

The discussion of cryptography, cryptanalysis, and related issues, in
a more civilised environment than is currently provided by sci.crypt.

There are 5 moderators:
 
  David Wagner <[email protected]>
  Greg Rose <[email protected]>
  Mark Lomas <[email protected]>
  Michael Paul Johnson <[email protected]>
  Peter Gutmann <[email protected]>

The submission address has not yet been determined.


RATIONALE: 
 
This vote is an attempt to provide for the creation of a forum with a
lower volume and higher quality of information than what is currently
available in sci.crypt.  It is hoped that the creation of a moderated
group will encourage more active debate on cryptographic research and
related issues than currently takes place in sci.crypt.


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing
list.

The subject in your mail message must contain the name of the group to
allow your vote to be correctly handled by an automated vote-counter,
if you do not do this you will receive a message asking you to
resubmit your vote with the name of the group that you are voting for
in the subject line.

Please do not quote the entire CFV in your vote, it will confuse the
automatic vote counter and will earn you a duplicate vote message.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on sci.crypt.research
      I vote NO on sci.crypt.research

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the
outcome.  Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting
program.  The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a
personal acknowledgement by mail - if you do not receive one within
several days, try again.  It's your responsibility to make sure your
vote is registered correctly.

Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account.  No votes
will be accepted from system accounts (i.e. root, news, uucp) or
anonymous accounts.  Addresses and votes of all voters will be
published in the final voting results list.

BOUNCED ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
(no need to revote)

  [email protected]
  [email protected]

-- 
Dave Cornejo                                There is nothing so subtle
Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
Fremont, California

From [email protected] Thu Sep  8 15:05:48 1994
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Dave Cornejo)
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Subject: RESULT: sci.crypt.research moderated passes 348:23
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                               RESULT
	   moderated group sci.crypt.research passes 348:23

There were 348 YES votes and 23 NO votes, for a total of 371 valid votes. 
There were 5 invalid ballots.

For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
votes.   There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. 

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.  If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.

Newsgroups line:
sci.crypt.research      Cryptography, cryptanalysis, and related issues.


Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 6 September 1994.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Dave Cornejo <[email protected]>.  For questions
about the proposed group please contact Peter Gutmann
<[email protected]>.


CHARTER

The discussion of cryptography, cryptanalysis, and related issues, in
a more civilised environment than is currently provided by sci.crypt.

There are 5 moderators:
 
  David Wagner <[email protected]>
  Greg Rose <[email protected]>
  Mark Lomas <[email protected]>
  Michael Paul Johnson <[email protected]>
  Peter Gutmann <[email protected]>

The moderators address is [email protected] and
submissions may go to [email protected]


RATIONALE: 
 
This vote is an attempt to provide for the creation of a forum with a
lower volume and higher quality of information than what is currently
available in sci.crypt.  It is hoped that the creation of a moderated
group will encourage more active debate on cryptographic research and
related issues than currently takes place in sci.crypt.


sci.crypt.research Final Vote Ack

Voted Yes
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[email protected]                                                Marc Aurel
[email protected]                                               Alex D. Baxter
[email protected]                                            Alan L. Bostick
[email protected]                                       F. P. Adams, Jr.
[email protected]                                                 Adam Thornton
[email protected]                                          Nigel Allen
[email protected]                                       Colin R. Leech
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[email protected]                                         Alexander Adolf
[email protected]                                              Allan Bailey
[email protected]                                                            alyx
[email protected]                                     Mark L. Ames
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[email protected]                                        Andrew Hughes
[email protected]                                                 Andy Latto
[email protected]                                                    Andrew Haley
[email protected]                                   Arthur Chance
[email protected]                                Ran Atkinson
[email protected]                                                    Jim Ault
[email protected]                                      Arthur Rubin
[email protected]                                   Brian Lasher
[email protected]                                        Bart Massey
[email protected]                                              Bengt Larsson
[email protected]                                            Thomas A. Berson
[email protected]                                 Johann Bezuidenhoudt
[email protected]                                     Hari Seldon
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[email protected]                                           Dan Birchall
[email protected]                                                  Matthew Black
[email protected]                                              B Korbelik
[email protected]                              Olivier Bonaventure
[email protected]                           Vesselin Bontchev
[email protected]                               Claude Bouillin
[email protected]                                        Peter G. Bouillon
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[email protected]                                     Brendan McKenna
[email protected]                                                    Bret Olmsted
[email protected]                                         Robert D. Silverman
[email protected]                                      Barry W Anderson
[email protected]                                          Brad Wallet
[email protected]                 Carlos Alejandro Alfaro Bernate
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[email protected]                                            Eric C. Carlson
[email protected]                                    Christopher Barkley
[email protected]                                               Florent Chabaud
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[email protected]                                 Chris Siebenmann
[email protected]                                               Clare West
c[email protected]                                          Bob Clements
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[email protected]                                         Colin Owen Rafferty
[email protected]                                     Benjamin L. Combee
[email protected]                                                 Colin Bell
[email protected]                                            Charles Stevens
[email protected]                                               Christopher Ward
[email protected]                                                   Peter Campbell
[email protected]                              Dale Woodford
[email protected]                                         Damien Doligez
[email protected]                                            Dave Hudson
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[email protected]                                          David Sternlight
[email protected]                                 David A. Wagner
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[email protected]                                          Dave DeBry
[email protected]                                     Daniel Jimenez
[email protected]                                          David Lang
[email protected]                                    Daniel Monjar
[email protected]                                                    Bill Dorsey
[email protected]                                                 Doug Cutrell
[email protected]                                        Douglas White
[email protected]                                                     Edward Bertsch
[email protected]                                           Eric W Burger
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[email protected]                                                Edward Reid
[email protected]                          Eduardo Javier Rodriguez
[email protected]                                          Ed Feustel
egbert%[email protected]                                      Egbert Hinzen
[email protected]                                       Erik Kraft
[email protected]                                                    Rick Ellis
[email protected]                                                   Emery Lapinski
[email protected]                                      Bohdan Tashchuk
[email protected]                                                   Craig Presson
[email protected]                                       Frank Damm
[email protected]                                       William Affleck-Asch
[email protected]                                     Andrew KUCHLING
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[email protected]                                           Fred Blonder
[email protected]                                     Gilles Dignard
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[email protected]                                       EuGene epetai-Tramaglino
[email protected]                                              Greg ROSE
[email protected]                                George Plummer
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[email protected]                                      Mitchell Golden
[email protected]                                                Gordon Torrie
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[email protected]                        The Grinch (Reginald Braithwaite-Lee)
[email protected]                                                    Greg Williamson
[email protected]                                   Pete 'Happy' Thomas
[email protected]                                 Hagen Hagemann
[email protected]                                         Harald Hanche-Olsen
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[email protected]                                          James Harvey
[email protected]                                Robert A. Hayden
[email protected]                                      Philippe Hebrais
[email protected]                                Herman Ter Braake
[email protected]                                          Henning Holtschneider
[email protected]                                            Herman Miller
[email protected]                                                Hilarie Orman
[email protected]                                         David Honig
[email protected]                                        Andy Hooper
[email protected]                                Henk J Snel +1  35  87 2311
[email protected]                                          Richard Hughes
[email protected]                                       Taneli Huuskonen
[email protected]                                            Iain Douglas
[email protected]                                      Igor Romanenko
[email protected]                                               Jon Care
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[email protected]                               Jerry B. Altzman
[email protected]                                            Jan YON Hardebergh
[email protected]                                            John Darrow
[email protected]                                                 Jorge Davila
[email protected]                       JeanBernard Condat
[email protected]                                Jeffrey D. Young
[email protected]                                         Jeff C. Glover
[email protected]                                   Jennifer Seberry
[email protected]                                                   Jens Ey
[email protected]                                                        Jerry B
[email protected]                                              Bob Jewett
[email protected]                                          Joseph_Fortt
[email protected]                                                       Jim Gillogly
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[email protected]                                               Jose M. daLuz
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[email protected]                                           John Marychurch
[email protected]                                             scott johnson
[email protected]                                             Jonathan Adams
[email protected]                                              Josh P Hendrix
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[email protected]                                              'totally confused'
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[email protected]                                             Joe Kelsey
[email protected]                                                       Ken Hardy
[email protected]                                                    Ken Pizzini
[email protected]                                            Ken de Veaux
[email protected]                                Kenneth R. Iversen
[email protected]                                           Keromitis Aggelos
[email protected]                                                    khan
[email protected]                                         Henry King
[email protected]                                              Kiril Kesarev
[email protected]                                             Ken Kirksey
[email protected]                                                      Karl Kleine
[email protected]                                 Keith Lockstone
[email protected]                                   Paul Carl Kocher
[email protected]                                         Costas Krallis
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[email protected]                                                     Kyle Wilson
[email protected]                                        Martin Schroeder
[email protected]                                       Hugh LaMaster
[email protected]                           Detlef Lannert
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[email protected]                                          Jussipekka Leiwo
[email protected]                                               Elena V. Ivanova
[email protected]                                 Jeremy S. Leon
[email protected]                                        Leif Jensen
[email protected]                                                  L. Sean Kennedy
[email protected]                            Mark H. Linehan (8-863-7860)
[email protected]                             L. \"Futplex\" McCarthy
[email protected]                                               Lorenz Frey
[email protected]                                              A Staines
[email protected]                                          Linn Stanton
[email protected]                                                Lawrence Weinman
[email protected]                                          Stefan Lucks NAM
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[email protected]                                               Matthew Gream
[email protected]                                     Remijn M.N.R.
[email protected]                                                 Kurt Wassberg
[email protected]                                           Matthias Bruestle
[email protected]                                    Malte Uhl
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[email protected]                                           Mark C. Henderson
[email protected]                                 Dr. Markus Dichtl
[email protected]                                              Brent Marshall
[email protected]                                        charles martin
[email protected]                                                Matt Cohen
[email protected]                                     Maurizio Codogno
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[email protected]                                         Michael Bauser
[email protected]                                          Malcolm Mladenovic
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[email protected]                                 Melanie Dymond Harper
[email protected]                                                       Ted Lemon
[email protected]                              George Pajari
[email protected]                                     Jerry Metzger
[email protected]                                  Michael Froomkin
[email protected]                                 Michael.Bungert
[email protected]                                              Mike Roe
[email protected]                         Michael Portz
[email protected]                                                     Mike deMare
[email protected]                                              Milan Merhar
[email protected]                                              Mark McCutcheon
[email protected]                                         Michael Shields
[email protected]                                          Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected]                                                    Magnus Olsson
[email protected]                                                Peter Monta
[email protected]                                            Michelle Peel
[email protected]                                            Michael Paul Johnson
[email protected]                                             Michael Pope
[email protected]                                          Martin Davis
[email protected]                                               matthew green
[email protected]                                              Mark Riordan
[email protected]                                            Michael Schruf
[email protected]                                        Matthias Neeracher
[email protected]                                        Neil Crellin
[email protected]                                            Neill Clift
[email protected]                                              Nigel Bromley
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[email protected]                                                    Nat Howard
[email protected]                                                      JP Nye
[email protected]                                       Dr Luke O'Connor
[email protected]                                         Christopher Oliver
[email protected]                                                  M. Otto
[email protected]                                                      
[email protected]                                                John M. King
[email protected]                                                   phil reed
[email protected]                                         Risto Paasivirta
[email protected]                                           Paul Olav Tvete
[email protected]                                                      Paul Leyland
[email protected]                                                  Paul Crowley
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[email protected]                                                Perry E. Metzger
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[email protected]                                    Peter Claus  Gutmann
[email protected]                                                      Paul Rubin
[email protected]                                     Jensen, Patrick R
[email protected]                                      P. Joseph Hong
[email protected]                                                 Paul A. Karger
[email protected]                                       Peter Lipp
[email protected]                         Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening
[email protected]                                                     Paul Quare
[email protected]                                 Bart Preneel
[email protected]                                               Ralf Muschall
[email protected]                                                 
[email protected]                                  Paul W Schleck KD3FU
[email protected]                                   Kai Rainer Puolamaki
[email protected]                                              peter (p.w.) whittaker
[email protected]                                   Michael J. Quinn
[email protected]                                                  Y. Radai
[email protected]                                                 Dale Hagglund
[email protected]                                             Richard Huddleston
[email protected]                                      Rei Safavi-Naini
[email protected]                                         Steffen Reithermann
[email protected]                                                 Richard Pinch
[email protected]                                     Richard Chycoski
[email protected]                                       Richard L. Robertson
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[email protected]                                          Robert Jenkins
[email protected]                                                    Robert Clark
[email protected]                                         Robert Blandford
[email protected]                                             Ollivier Robert
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[email protected]                                      R.Fleming
[email protected]                                  Rolf Michelsen
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[email protected]                                            Avi Rubin
[email protected]                                       Jeffrey Rufinus
[email protected]                                                      Samu Mielonen
[email protected]                                             Steven C. Dollins
[email protected]                                       Robert R. Schneck
[email protected]                                      Bruce Schneier
[email protected]                                           Zimmermann
[email protected]                                           Seth Robertson
[email protected]                                            William Setzer
[email protected]                                         shalev jonathan
[email protected]                                  High Octane Fuel
[email protected]                                             Kenton A. Hoover
[email protected]                                        Lynda L. True
[email protected]                                              Sean Irvine
[email protected]                                                  Scott Lindsay
[email protected]                                        Thomas Bueschgens
[email protected]                                            Steve Bellovin
[email protected]                                          Dick Smith
[email protected]                                        Steve O'Neill
[email protected]                                        Richard Sparrow
[email protected]                                 Steve Coltrin
[email protected]                                   Shawn P. Neugebauer
[email protected]                                        Steinn Sigurdsson
[email protected]                                         Steve_Allen
[email protected]                                                John Stidd
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[email protected]                                               Per Stoltze
[email protected]                                           Stewart C. Strait
[email protected]                                          Stefan T Schwingeler
[email protected]                                            Stuart Smith
[email protected]                                          Tasos Zachariou
[email protected]                                         Tapani Lindgren
[email protected]                                                   Terry Arnold
[email protected]                                                     Thomas F Lee
[email protected]                                                  Tim Gentry
[email protected]                                                    Thaddeus Beier
[email protected]                                    Thomas Hardjono
[email protected]                                                 Tim Myers
[email protected]                                                     M{nnist| Tatu
[email protected]                                                T|nnes Brekne TFX
[email protected]                                                  Tony Lezard
[email protected]                                     Tord Persokrud
[email protected]                                               Thorleif Askerud
[email protected]                                                     
[email protected]                                                    Taylor Reid
[email protected]                            Troy Shahoumian KC6SCZ
[email protected]                                               Robert Tykulsker
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[email protected]                                              Joseph M. Prusik
[email protected]                                                     uSuRa
[email protected]                                       Uwe Bloecher
[email protected]                                                Uwe Hollerbach
[email protected]                                           cusick
[email protected]                                               Marc Vauclair
[email protected]                                                     Viiveke
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[email protected]                                      Dale L. Walters
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[email protected]                                              Gary West
[email protected]                                                Wayne, M. Hadady
[email protected]                                   Christopher M. Conway
[email protected]                                       Kai Petzke
[email protected]                     Dave Shariff Yadallee
[email protected]                                              Michael Zapp
[email protected]                                          Zdenek Sekera
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Voted No
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[email protected]                                             Andreas Polzer
[email protected]                                    Brian Kilgore
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[email protected]                              Kenneth P Crouch
[email protected]                                  Michael E. Dumanis
[email protected]                                                      Ed Taychert
[email protected]                                                   NOT!
[email protected]                                                   Hal
[email protected]                             James R Ebright
[email protected]                                 Jon Kimbrough
[email protected]                                     John R. MacWilliamson
[email protected]                                            David Koontz
[email protected]                                           William S. Marshall
[email protected]                                          Mike Jones
[email protected]                                                Mighty Morgno
[email protected]                                               Neil Bowers
[email protected]                                        Pierre Uszynski
[email protected]                                             Richard H. Miller
[email protected]                                        Mike G. Rosing
[email protected]                                                  Dwight Brown
[email protected]                                                Timothy C. May
[email protected]                                           Tom Jaskiewicz
[email protected]                                          Tom Rollins


Votes in error
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[email protected]                                        Charlie Hall
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                            Dave Thacker
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                       Henry Van Maeger
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                               Nicholas Breen
   ! Conflicting votes
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   ! No vote statement in message

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Dogwood Media                                           as the obvious
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