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From [email protected] Thu Mar  9 08:48:25 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Rob Chambers)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.video.cable-tv,rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.video.production,sci.electronics,sci.engr,sci.engr.advanced-tv
Subject: RFD: sci.engr.television.broadcast and sci.engr.television.advanced
Followup-To: news.groups
Date: 9 Mar 1995 02:17:33 -0500
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

 Newsgroup       : sci.engr.television.broadcast
 Status          : unmoderated
 Distribution    : Worldwide
 Summary         : Discussions relating to broadcast tv facility equipment
 Proponents      : Rob Chambers <[email protected]>

This is a formal Request For Discussion on the creation of an unmoderated
newsgroup entitled sci.engr.television.broadcast, and the renaming of
sci.engr.advanced-tv to sci.engr.television.advanced.

This RFD has been posted in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroup
Creation. Its language is based on previously submitted RFDs.

This RFD is being cross-posted to the following newsgroups:

  news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.video.cable-tv,
  rec.video.satellite.tvro, rec.video.production, sci.electronics,
  sci.engr, sci.engr.advanced-tv

CHARTER: sci.engr.television.broadcast

This newsgroup will be used for the technical discussions of equipment
relating to the operation of a broadcast television facility. This scope
will include equipment that is used to transmit, store, manipulate, or
generate broadcast quality signals. Engineering standards, practices and
troubleshooting will also be discussed.

Recognized groups (such as NAB, SMPTE, etc) will also be encouraged to
discuss upcoming conferences and information relating to the broadcast
industry.


RATIONALE: sci.engr.television.broadcast

There is currently two newsgroups that border on the preceding charter,
sci.engr.advanced-tv and rec.video.production. A third group,
rec.video.professional, is also being proposed by Micheal Silbergleid
<[email protected]>.

The scope of rec.video.production does not cover the technical aspects of the
broadcast quality signal and serves more as an operational and a consumer
based group.

The sci.engr.advanced-tv group is for technical discussions on the future
proposals to change the current television system into a digital or HDTV
system.

The rec.video.professional proposal is for the operational and business
side of the broadcast industry. This group will not contain the indepth
technicial and scientific analysis that is being proposed under this RFD.

Many broadcast engineers have commented on the lack of an appropriate
group to discuss the technicial aspects of the current television systems,
this is why this RFD has been created.


MAILING LISTS

No known lists exist.


CHARTER: sci.engr.television.advanced

This is the renaming of the current group sci.engr.advanced-tv to
sci.engr.television.advanced. The current charter of this group will
remain the same.


RATIONALE: sci.engr.television.advanced

This will allow the advanced-tv group to be included under the new
television heirarchy.


PROCEDURE

Please post any responses to this message to news.groups. If you use
the follow-up feature on your newsreader, this should happen
automatically.  All discussion about the merits of this proposal should
occur on news.groups.


FUTURE CALL FOR VOTES

After a discussion period of 21-30 days, if there are no overwhelming
objections to the proposed group, there will be a Call For Votes (CFV)
posted to the same groups as this RFD. The voting period will be at least
21 days. If the group passes by receiving 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and (at least) twice as many YES votes as NO votes, it will be created.

Do not vote until the CFV has been posted. More specific instructions on
how to vote for this newsgroup will be posted within the CFV.

From [email protected] Tue Apr 25 13:18:42 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.video.cable-tv,rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.video.production,sci.electronics,sci.engr,sci.engr.advanced-tv
Subject: CFV: sci.engr.television.{advanced,broadcast}
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                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group sci.engr.television.advanced (replaces sci.engr.advanced-tv)
               unmoderated group sci.engr.television.broadcast

Newsgroups line:
sci.engr.television.advanced	HDTV/DATV stds, formats, equipment, practices.
sci.engr.television.broadcast	Broadcast facility equipment and practices.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 15 May 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Rob Chambers
<[email protected]>.

DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross posted to:
 rec.video.cable-tv, rec.video.satellite.tvro, rec.video.production,
 sci.electronics, sci.engr, sci.engr.advanced-tv

CHARTER

sci.engr.television.broadcast
This newsgroup will be used for the technical discussions of equipment
relating to the operation of a broadcast television facility. This scope
will include equipment that is used to transmit, store, manipulate, or
generate broadcast quality signals. Engineering standards, practices and
troubleshooting will also be discussed.

Recognized groups (such as NAB, SMPTE, etc) will also be encouraged to
discuss upcoming conferences and information relating to the broadcast
industry.

sci.engr.television.advanced
This is the renaming of the current group sci.engr.advanced-tv to
sci.engr.television.advanced. The current charter of this group will
remain the same.

RATIONALE

sci.engr.television.broadcast
There is currently two newsgroups that border on the preceding
charter, sci.engr.advanced-tv and rec.video.production. A third group,
rec.video.professional, is also being proposed by Micheal Silbergleid
<[email protected]>.

The scope of rec.video.production does not cover the technical aspects
of the broadcast quality signal and serves more as an operational and a
consumer based group.

The sci.engr.advanced-tv group is for technical discussions on the
future proposals to change the current television system into a digital
or HDTV system.

The rec.video.professional proposal is for the operational and business
side of the broadcast industry. This group will not contain the indepth
technicial and scientific analysis. Many broadcast engineers have
commented on the lack of an appropriate group to discuss the technicial
aspects of the current television systems.

sci.engr.television.advanced
This will allow the advanced-tv group to be included under the new
television heirarchy.

HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group name. Basically, remove everything
except the ballot - we have to save them all on disk.

Give your name on the line that asks for it. Place a YES or NO in the
brackets next to the group name to vote for or against it. Don't
worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that
your reply inserts.

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
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Give your real name here:
If you do not give your real name on previous line your vote may be rejected.

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  sci.engr.television.advanced (replaces sci.engr.advanced-tv)
[         ]  sci.engr.television.broadcast
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Wed May  3 19:18:59 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.video.cable-tv,rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.video.production,sci.electronics,sci.engr,sci.engr.advanced-tv
Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.engr.television.{advanced,broadcast}
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 3 May 1995 15:39:43 -0400
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                          LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group sci.engr.television.advanced (replaces sci.engr.advanced-tv)
               unmoderated group sci.engr.television.broadcast

Newsgroups line:
sci.engr.television.advanced	HDTV/DATV stds, formats, equipment, practices.
sci.engr.television.broadcast	Broadcast facility equipment and practices.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 15 May 1995.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.  For
questions about the proposed group contact Rob Chambers
<[email protected]>.

DISTRIBUTION
This CFV has been cross posted to:
 rec.video.cable-tv, rec.video.satellite.tvro, rec.video.production,
 sci.electronics, sci.engr, sci.engr.advanced-tv

CHARTER

sci.engr.television.broadcast
This newsgroup will be used for the technical discussions of equipment
relating to the operation of a broadcast television facility. This scope
will include equipment that is used to transmit, store, manipulate, or
generate broadcast quality signals. Engineering standards, practices and
troubleshooting will also be discussed.

Recognized groups (such as NAB, SMPTE, etc) will also be encouraged to
discuss upcoming conferences and information relating to the broadcast
industry.

sci.engr.television.advanced
This is the renaming of the current group sci.engr.advanced-tv to
sci.engr.television.advanced. The current charter of this group will
remain the same.

RATIONALE

sci.engr.television.broadcast
There is currently two newsgroups that border on the preceding
charter, sci.engr.advanced-tv and rec.video.production. A third group,
rec.video.professional, is also being proposed by Micheal Silbergleid
<[email protected]>.

The scope of rec.video.production does not cover the technical aspects
of the broadcast quality signal and serves more as an operational and a
consumer based group.

The sci.engr.advanced-tv group is for technical discussions on the
future proposals to change the current television system into a digital
or HDTV system.

The rec.video.professional proposal is for the operational and business
side of the broadcast industry. This group will not contain the indepth
technicial and scientific analysis. Many broadcast engineers have
commented on the lack of an appropriate group to discuss the technicial
aspects of the current television systems.

sci.engr.television.advanced
This will allow the advanced-tv group to be included under the new
television heirarchy.

HOW TO VOTE

Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything
below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these
lines and do not change the group name. Basically, remove everything
except the ballot - we have to save them all on disk.

Give your name on the line that asks for it. Place a YES or NO in the
brackets next to the group name to vote for or against it. Don't
worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that
your reply inserts.

Send MAIL to:   [email protected]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
sci.engr.television reorg Ballot    <SET-0002> (Don't remove this marker)

Give your real name here:
If you do not give your real name on previous line your vote may be rejected.

[Your Vote]  Group
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
[         ]  sci.engr.television.advanced (replaces sci.engr.advanced-tv)
[         ]  sci.engr.television.broadcast
-=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)

Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.

Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.

The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.

There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.

From [email protected] Tue May 16 19:38:19 1995
Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (Warren Lavallee)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.video.cable-tv,rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.video.production,sci.electronics,sci.engr,sci.engr.advanced-tv
Subject: RESULT: sci.engr.television.{advanced,broadcast} pass
Supersedes: <[email protected]>
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Date: 16 May 1995 15:16:40 -0400
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                                RESULT
     unmoderated group sci.engr.television.advanced passes 129:12
    unmoderated group sci.engr.television.broadcast passes 132:13

  sci.engr.television.advanced (replaces sci.engr.advanced-tv) passed on Mon May 8 19:56:14 1995
  sci.engr.television.broadcast passed on Mon May 8 16:06:17 1995

Newsgroups line:
sci.engr.television.advanced	HDTV/DATV stds, formats, equipment, practices.
sci.engr.television.broadcast	Broadcast facility equipment and practices.

This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For
voting questions only contact Warren Lavallee <[email protected]>.
For questions about the proposed group contact Rob Chambers
<[email protected]>.

CHARTER

sci.engr.television.broadcast
This newsgroup will be used for the technical discussions of equipment
relating to the operation of a broadcast television facility. This scope
will include equipment that is used to transmit, store, manipulate, or
generate broadcast quality signals. Engineering standards, practices and
troubleshooting will also be discussed.

Recognized groups (such as NAB, SMPTE, etc) will also be encouraged to
discuss upcoming conferences and information relating to the broadcast
industry.

sci.engr.television.advanced
This is the renaming of the current group sci.engr.advanced-tv to
sci.engr.television.advanced. The current charter of this group will
remain the same.

[This collection of addresses is (C)1995 by Consultix Computer Services.
Permission is strictly NOT given to use this list or any part thereof to
make a mailing list, or for mass-mailings.  Any other use is fine.]
sci.engr.television reorg Final Vote Ack

                                           sci.engr.television.broadcast ----+
            sci.engr.television.advanced (replaces sci.engr.advanced-tv) ---+|
                                                                            ||
[email protected]                                       Reddy Urimindi YY
[email protected]                                         Glenn Shick YY
[email protected]                                JESUS M. IZQUIERDO YY
[email protected]                                  Andrew Cannon YY
[email protected]                                       Jack Decker YY
[email protected]                                            Anthony G. Albano YY
[email protected]                                          Adrian Heilbut YY
[email protected]                                               Andy Mercker YY
[email protected]                                         Andrew Johnson YY
[email protected]                                            Allen Abel YY
[email protected]                                           Bill Beeman Y-
[email protected]                                                                 YN
[email protected]                                                 Aubrey Wells YY
[email protected]                                           Bengt Larsson YY
[email protected]                                             Fred Besancon YY
[email protected]                                 Jamie Sommerville YY
[email protected]                                        Bill Bowen YY
[email protected]                                   Cedric Brent Kelly YY
[email protected]                                                   Bruce Cowan YY
[email protected]               Colin Grimshaw (imperial college, london) -Y
[email protected]                                               YY
[email protected]                                               Bob Champion YY
[email protected]                                      Chris Barham YY
[email protected]                                               Craig Birkmaier YY
[email protected]                                             Colin Jensen YY
[email protected]                                      Chris Stamper YY
[email protected]                                               Clyde Wildes YY
[email protected]                                          Bob Bachus YY
[email protected]                                  K. Crouch --
[email protected]                                              Kevin Sullivan YY
[email protected]                                   Curt Swinehart YY
[email protected]                                            Christopher Ward NN
[email protected]                                          Dan Rothschild YY
[email protected]                                               David Breneman YY
[email protected]                                               David Muckel YY
[email protected]                                       David Wiswell YY
[email protected]                               William Douglas Drader YY
[email protected]                                David Groome YY
[email protected]                                        David Stafford YY
[email protected]                                    Lynnette Edrington YY
[email protected]                                             Edward Dumholt YY
[email protected]                                              Elmer Beachley YY
[email protected]                                                Emery Lapinski YY
[email protected]                                                  Brian Fagan YY
[email protected]                                           David Finocchiaro YY
[email protected]                                  David Sheftel -Y
[email protected]                                       Jeremy D. Lansman YY
[email protected]                                 Gareth Rowlands YY
[email protected]                                          Sean Hamilton YY
[email protected]                                          Gregg Kellogg YY
[email protected]                                    Bob Griffin YY
[email protected]_systems.com                              Davender Nath GUPTA YY
[email protected]                                                Gary Youngs -Y
[email protected]                                       Lance C. Hankins YY
[email protected]                                               Michael Hazarian YY
[email protected]                                           Ian Miller YY
[email protected]                                         Ivan Sindell YY
[email protected]                              Jeff Murphy NN
[email protected]                                            John Cowie YY
[email protected]                                              J.D. Falk YY
[email protected]                                   John Hetherington YY
[email protected]                                                 James Sterbenz YY
[email protected]                                         Jeremy Pollack YY
[email protected]                                              Jim Taylor YY
[email protected]                                        Jurgen Bartels YY
[email protected]                              Juha Mustonen YY
[email protected]                                           Julian Elve YY
[email protected]                                                     Jame Wilson YY
[email protected]                                                Jim D. Wynn YY
[email protected]                                        Winston Tharp YY
[email protected]                             kenny adams [email protected] YY
[email protected]                                            Keith H.-K. Chow YY
[email protected]                                        Ken Williams  YY
[email protected]                                      Kerrin Pine YY
[email protected]                                           Kim DeVaughn YY
[email protected]                                   Mark Kinsler YY
[email protected]                                      Lachlan Cranswick YY
[email protected]                                                Lawrence Gust YY
[email protected]                                               Leo Nikora YY
[email protected]                              Martin Schr\"oder YY
[email protected]                                                Luk-Marie Decroos YY
[email protected]                                          Luis A. Rodriguez NN
[email protected]                                Ross MacGill YY
[email protected]                                            Patrick Yip YY
[email protected]                                        Marc Moorcroft NN
[email protected]                                        Zeke M. Towson NN
[email protected]                                              Mike Northam YY
[email protected]                                   Michael Emery YY
[email protected]                                         Mihai N. Hristu YY
[email protected]                                       Mikael Nadelmann YY
[email protected]                                       Mike Onyskiw YY
[email protected]                                     Michael Hasselberg YY
[email protected]                                              M Mike Taksar --
[email protected]                                   David C. Moisan YY
[email protected]                                      David YY
[email protected]                                  Michael Sanders YY
[email protected]                                                  Nigel Allen YY
[email protected]                                     Nick Hattingh YY
[email protected]                                       Nick Ingegneri NY
[email protected]                                          Nigel McAdam YY
[email protected]                                                      Chuck Kahn YY
[email protected]                                                  david parsons --
[email protected]                       M. `Advanced couch potato' Otto --
[email protected]                                               Mike Barlow -Y
[email protected]                                                        phil reed YY
[email protected]                                      Philip J. Decker YY
[email protected]                                     Peter Watson YY
[email protected]                                     Pierre USzynski NN
[email protected]                                       Stephane Pigeon YY
[email protected]                                         Mark Posen YY
problem!alex                                                   Alex Johnson YY
[email protected]                                             Pete Bastien YN
[email protected]                                           Rebecca Drayer YY
[email protected]                                              Rick Douglas YY
[email protected]                                               Ron Renaud YY
[email protected]                                            Ryan Waldron NN
[email protected]                                     Richard V. Paiement YY
[email protected]                       Richard Olsson, [email protected] YY
[email protected]                                           Richard Browne YY
[email protected]                                              Richard Cave YY
[email protected]                                          Richard H. Miller YN
[email protected]                                            Richard Jenkins YY
[email protected]                                          Richard L. Davis YY
[email protected]                                          Robert Cruickshank YY
[email protected]                                   Rob Chambers YY
[email protected]                                       Robin Kenny YY
[email protected]                                 Ron Schultz YY
[email protected]                                            Robert Rolf YY
[email protected]                                          Robert Smits NN
[email protected]                                                Rudolf van Ree YY
[email protected]                                              Bob Wilkins YY
[email protected]                                     George Schmitt YY
[email protected]                                          Steven Sergeant YY
[email protected]                               Franklin Tapetta YY
[email protected]                                     Stephen Joseph Smith --
[email protected]                                         Andrew Haggert NY
[email protected]                                        Steven L. Blake YY
[email protected]                                               Dwight Brown NN
[email protected]                                             Stephen G. Tell YY
[email protected]                                       Thomas Wise YY
[email protected]                                                   Tony Newman YY
[email protected]                                    TONY QUINN YY
[email protected]                                           Travis L. Hardin YY
[email protected]                                    Gary Bourgois YY
[email protected]                                    Robert Kastigar YY
[email protected]                                   Yi-Jian Lee YY
[email protected]                              Vassilis Seferidis YY
[email protected]                                          Victor L. Hamrick -Y
[email protected]                                         Michael Brockwell YY
[email protected]                                      Vincent Jurgens YY
[email protected]                                      Risto Widenius NN


Votes in error
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[email protected]                                                   Don Ryan
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                                  EarleVideo
   ! No vote statement in message
[email protected]                                             Marjorie Rosen
   ! No vote statement in message

 
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