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From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:02:38 1992
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From: [email protected] (David Bombardier)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups
Subject: CALL FOR VOTES:  SCI.PHILOSOPHY.OBJECTIVISM
Date: 7 Feb 90 08:10:26 GMT
Reply-To: [email protected] (David Bombardier)
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology
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Moderator:

Bob Stubblefield has been trying to post a call for votes on
sci.philosophy.objectivism for the past week.  His machine's
mailhandler has been functioning erratically, and he's not
sure whether or not the call has been received.  He sent the
call both to news.announce.newgroups and to Eliot Lear.  He
asked me to forward the call.  If you have already received
the call, please ignore this message.

Also, per Bob's request, please edit the "newsgroups" line to
include news.groups, sci.philosophy.meta, talk.philosophy.misc,
talk.politics.theory, alt.individualism and alt.atheism in
addition to news.announce.newgroups and sci.philosophy.tech.

Thanks a lot!

-- David Bombardier
   [email protected]

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Subject: Another attempt to CALL FOR SPO VOTES
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Eliot,

The att gateways are causing much trouble.  Please ignore this if
you've already gotten my first attempt to call for votes for
sci.philosophy.tech.  Otherwise, please submit what I have below the cut
line.  For your information, I'm receiving mail this morning some of
which was sent by people a week ago and some (like your CC to me
answering Dave Bombardier's question) written yesterday.  Apparently
they've fixed the att gateway problems to let current stuff through
but still have a big backlog of past mail to work on.

Thanks,
Bob Stubblefield
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From: [email protected] (r.w.stubblefield)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,sci.philosophy.tech
Subject: CALL FOR VOTES - sci.philosophy.objectivism
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 2 Feb 90 14:51:46 GMT
Reply-To: Robert W Stubblefield <[email protected]>
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This is the first CALL FOR VOTES for the sci.philosophy.objectivism
newsgroup, which is to be unmoderated.

If you are in favor of this group and charter (as defined below),
send me mail with the single line of text:

YES for sci.philosophy.objectivism as proposed.

If you are opposed to the existence of this group with this charter,
send me mail with the single line of text:

NO for sci.philosophy.objectivism as proposed.

I receive mail addressed to [email protected],
			[email protected],
			or att!houxa!bobs.

Because of the recent troubles with att gateways, the vote will run
for 28 days.  Votes received after 3/2/90 will not be counted.
====================================================================

1.  The Name--SPO

Sci--because of the approach participants should use when
contributing to this newsgroup.  What is scientific about it is
that conclusions should be drawn by reasoning based on observations of
reality.  Neither "Ayn Rand says so" nor "I just feel it's so" should
be used as a premise for a conclusion.

Philosophy--because fundamental principles, at the base of all
other human knowledge, will be the content.  All five branches
of philosophy will be discussed.

Objectivism--because most participants will be people who
have already grasped the fact that Ayn Rand has identified a set of
fundamental principles that integrate to make a philosophy.  Most
contributors should have actually read the relevant works by Ayn Rand
before making any lengthy comments on a topic.  Posters who question
her conclusions are NOT excluded.  Rational, reality-based, logical
opponents asking specific questions are welcome.

2.  Charter

sci.philosophy.objectivism	for those who grasp that philosophy is
	a science and are interested in studying Ayn Rand's philosophy
	of Objectivism.  The primary content is intended to be
	reasoned analysis of philosophic principles (and their
	applications) based on facts of reality.

This current posting (in total) comprises a longer explanation of the
charter.  Note that the word "primarily" allows the contributions
of announcements, publications, classes, club meetings and such as
long as they are interesting to people studying Objectivism.  It also
allows the derivative use by honest, polite, serious folks who are not
studying it but may want to learn more about Objectivism.

3.  Quality

Several things will help SPO achieve the quality its founders desire.

a)  The precise wording of the charter above should be used in Gene
Spafford's list of newsgroups.

b)  This notice will be posted monthly.

c)  Guidelines that rational people should follow to attenuate noise
of irrational posters will be posted periodically.

d)  Style guidelines arrived at within the newsgroup will be
posted periodically.

e)  Guidelines for expressing disagreement will be posted periodically.

f)  The only action needed by system administrators should be to
prevent the only way someone can initiate (indirect) force; i.e.,
they need to remove USENET privileges of those who fraudently
associate their words with the signatures of others.

DISCLAIMER:  the intent of this group is not to represent Objectivism
but to provide a forum for studying it.

RWS  2/2/90
-- 
Bob Stubblefield att!houxa!bobs 201-949-2846 
                 [email protected]



From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:12:22 1992
Flags: 000000000201
From: [email protected] (r.w.stubblefield)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,sci.philosophy.tech,news.groups,talk.philosophy.misc,alt.individualism,talk.politics.theory
Subject: 2nd CALL FOR VOTES - sci.philosophy.objectivism
Date: 18 Feb 90 04:29:33 GMT
Reply-To: Robert W Stubblefield <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Keywords: posted

[This is one of two votes occurring simultaneously for a group along
 the same subject line.  The other one is in the talk hierarchy.
 -eliot]

This is the second CALL FOR VOTES for the sci.philosophy.objectivism
newsgroup, which is to be unmoderated.  A MASS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of
votes received so far will be sent to news.groups.

If you are in favor of this group and charter (as defined below),
send me mail including the line of text:

YES for sci.philosophy.objectivism as proposed.

If you are opposed to the existence of this group with this charter,
send me mail including the line of text:

NO for sci.philosophy.objectivism as proposed.

Please include your complete name in either the header or body of
the message to facilitate vote checking.

I receive mail addressed to [email protected],
			[email protected],
			or att!houxa!bobs.

Because of the recent troubles with att gateways, the vote will run
for 28 days from 2/7.  Votes received after 3/7/90 will not be counted.
====================================================================

1.  The Name--SPO

Sci--because of the approach participants should use when
contributing to this newsgroup.  What is scientific about it is
that conclusions should be drawn by reasoning based on observations of
reality.  Neither "Ayn Rand says so" nor "I just feel it's so" should
be used as a premise for a conclusion.

Philosophy--because fundamental principles, at the base of all
other human knowledge, will be the content.  All five branches
of philosophy will be discussed.

Objectivism--because most participants will be people who
have already grasped the fact that Ayn Rand has identified a set of
fundamental principles that integrate to make a philosophy.  Most
contributors should have actually read the relevant works by Ayn Rand
before making any lengthy comments on a topic.  Posters who question
her conclusions are NOT excluded.  Rational, reality-based, logical
opponents asking specific questions are welcome.

2.  Charter

sci.philosophy.objectivism	for those who grasp that philosophy is
	a science and are interested in studying Ayn Rand's philosophy
	of Objectivism.  The primary content is intended to be
	reasoned analysis of philosophic principles (and their
	applications) based on facts of reality.

This current posting (in total) comprises a longer explanation of the
charter.  Note that the word "primarily" allows the contributions
of announcements, publications, classes, club meetings and such as
long as they are interesting to people studying Objectivism.  It also
allows the derivative use by honest, polite, serious folks who are not
studying it but may want to learn more about Objectivism.

3.  Quality

Several things will help SPO achieve the quality its founders desire.

a)  The precise wording of the charter above should be used in Gene
Spafford's list of newsgroups.

b)  This notice will be posted monthly.

c)  Guidelines that rational people should follow to attenuate noise
of irrational posters will be posted periodically.

d)  Style guidelines arrived at within the newsgroup will be
posted periodically.

e)  Guidelines for expressing disagreement will be posted periodically.

f)  The only action needed by system administrators should be to
prevent the only way someone can initiate (indirect) force; i.e.,
they need to remove USENET privileges of those who fraudently
associate their words with the signatures of others.

DISCLAIMER:  the intent of this group is not to represent Objectivism
but to provide a forum for studying it.

RWS  2/17/90
-- 
Bob Stubblefield att!houxa!bobs 201-949-2846 
                 [email protected]


From [email protected] Tue Feb 18 00:33:17 1992
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From: [email protected] (r.w.stubblefield)
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups
Subject: RESULTS:  sci.philosophy.objectivism
Date: 10 Mar 90 02:24:08 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
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Almost 400 people took the time to express their opinion about
creating sci.philosophy.objectivism for discussion among people who
have a serious interest the philosophy of Objectivism.  The vote was
opposed to such a group by 174 to 221.  Those in favor are listed
first; those opposed, afterwards.

Since SPO was voted down, I will continue to use sci.philosophy.tech
for my twice weekly philosophical questions and answers--
until I have a better alternative.  Many of the no voters indicated
they would have voted yes for a group in another hierarchy, usually
mentioning talk.  Some objected to labeling philosophy in general
and Objectivism in particular as science.  Others were concerned
about the amount of traffic that might be generated.  I wonder if
some of the no voters would support me in an effort to create SPO
as a moderated group with me as a moderator.  If anyone has
something polite to say to me about this, please drop me some
e-mail.

Bob Stubblefield     [email protected]

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USENET FACT: Big-8
BIG-8 hierarchies are the 8 traditional top hierarchies of the Usenet. See the following page for more