From [email protected] Sat Apr  4 02:22:57 1992
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.protocols.ppp
From: [email protected] (John Kalucki)
Subject: RFD:  comp.dcom.servers
Followup-To: news.groups
Keywords: new group, terminal servers, print servers, comm servers.
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1992 17:35:32 GMT

Proposal:
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Creation of new newsgroup comp.dcom.servers.

Due to the rapid growth of communication servers in the industry and the
lack of a newsgroup to discuss their merits, pitfalls, and configuration
I'd like to begin discussion on a new newsgroup, comp.dcom.servers.


Status:
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Unmoderated


Charter:
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To provide a central newsgroup for discussion about communication
servers such as terminal servers, network print servers, stand
alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand routers, protocol
translators, etc.

Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: 
	* Functionality of products
	* Problem solving and appropriate solutions
	* Interoperability
	* General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.)
	* Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks
	* Ideas/desires for new products and functionality

A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such
products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the endless
messages requesting information of this sort on comp.protocols.tcp-ip
and elsewhere.


Rationale:
---------

Currently there is no central location to discuss this growing
field.  Messages requesting information about this type of product
can be found in such widely dispersed locations as
[email protected], comp.dcom.lans, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
comp.protocols.ppp, comp.dcom.cisco, comp.unix.admin and comp.sys.sun.admin.

Cisco, Xyplex, Lantronix, Digital, Emulex, Livingston, Telebit,
Shiva, Milan and many other vendors provide products of these types,
many with overlapping and/or complimentary functionalities. Splitting
newsgroups along vendor, or communication server type inhibits
relative comparison of product merit and also inhibits problem solving
involving two or more different products.

Follow Up:
---------
Please follow up all discussion to news.groups.

From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 22:04:56 1992
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Path: uunet!tale
From: [email protected] (John Kalucki)
Subject: CFV:  comp.dcom.servers
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: poster
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1992 16:34:32 GMT
Approved: [email protected]
Lines: 44

Call for Votes on new newsgroup COMP.DCOM.SERVERS
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Status:
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Unmoderated

Charter:
--------

To provide a central, unmoderated, newsgroup for discussion about
communication servers such as terminal servers, network print
servers, stand alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand
routers, protocol translators, and other types of communication
servers.

Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: 
	* Functionality of products
	* Problem solving and appropriate solutions
	* Interoperability
	* General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.)
	* Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks
	* Ideas/desires for new products and functionality

A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such
products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the
endless messages requesting information of this sort on
comp.protocols.tcp-ip and elsewhere.

This newsgroup is not intended for discussion of servers in general,
or servers that provide communications services as a tangentially
to their primary purpose, (ie: Unix workstations or Novell file
servers).

Voting:
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Mail all yes votes to [email protected]
Mail all no votes to [email protected]

Yes votes sent to the no account and no votes sent to the yes
account will be disregarded.

Votes will be accepted through May 7 1992.

From [email protected] Mon May 11 17:54:08 1992
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Path: uunet!bounce-back
From: [email protected] (John Kalucki)
Subject: RESULT:  comp.dcom.servers passes 132: 19
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Followup-To: news.groups
Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence)
Organization: Gordian
Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 18:11:43 GMT
Approved: [email protected]
Lines: 225

Voting on the proposed creation of comp.dcom.servers ended
May 7th.  It received 132 votes for, and 19 votes against.

No 'no' votes were received in the 'yes' account and no 'yes' votes
were received in the 'no' account.

A copy of the proposed charter and all valid votes received are
inclosed below.

comp.dcom.servers will be created after the standard 5 day waiting period.

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Proposal:
--------

Creation of new newsgroup comp.dcom.servers.

Due to the rapid growth of communication servers in the industry and the
lack of a newsgroup to discuss their merits, pitfalls, and configuration
I'd like to begin discussion on a new newsgroup, comp.dcom.servers.


Status:
------

Unmoderated


Charter:
-------

To provide a central newsgroup for discussion about communication
servers such as terminal servers, network print servers, stand
alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand routers, protocol
translators, etc.

Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: 
	* Functionality of products
	* Problem solving and appropriate solutions
	* Interoperability
	* General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.)
	* Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks
	* Ideas/desires for new products and functionality

A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such
products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the endless
messages requesting information of this sort on comp.protocols.tcp-ip
and elsewhere.


Rationale:
---------

Currently there is no central location to discuss this growing
field.  Messages requesting information about this type of product
can be found in such widely dispersed locations as
[email protected], comp.dcom.lans, comp.protocols.tcp-ip,
comp.protocols.ppp, comp.dcom.cisco and comp.sys.sun.admin.

Cisco, Xyplex, Lantronix, Digital, Emulex, Livingston, Telebit,
Shiva, Milan and many other vendors provide products of these types,
many with overlapping and/or complimentary functionalities. Splitting
newsgroups along vendor, or communication server type inhibits
relative comparison of product merit and also inhibits problem solving
involving two or more different products.


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Yes votes were as follows:

A. Grant 
Andrew M. Dunn 
Andy Malis 
Arne Langmo 
Bob Baal 
Bob Boyd 
Bob Snyder 
Bob Stewart 
Bob Stodola 
Bob Sutterfield 
Bogdan Sniezek 
Brian Fellows 
Brian Woodson 
[email protected]
COTTERILL_CLIFF/[email protected]
Che-hoo Cheng 
Christopher Davis 
[email protected]
Cliff Stanford 
Danny Padwa 
Dave White 
David Hopkins 
David Pfister 
Doron Shikmoni 
Edward Vielmetti 
George Hartzell 
Gerrit A. Smit 
Glenn Pearston  
Greg Brewster 
Harish Pillay 
Hugh Tebault 
Jason Halm 
Jess Anderson 
John Gong 
Joseph Malcolm 
Ken Adler; Ext. 303" 
Ken McVay 
Kimmo Ketolainen 
[email protected]
Larry Rebarchik 
Leo Smith 
Mark Marino 
Mark R. Ludwig 
[email protected]
[email protected]
Matthew Lyle 
Maxime Taksar 
Mehrdad Solaymantash 
Mike Gardner 
[email protected]
Milton Scritsmier 
Pete Gregory 
Peter Dieth 
Petri Ojala 
Rachel Willmer 
Ray Benash 
Richard_R.Moore 
[email protected] (Len Visconti)
Saliel Figueira Filho 
Scott J. Kramer  (())
Shane Davis 
Steve Rumsby 
Stu Labovitz 
Thomas Brunner 
Thomas Canning 
Thomas D. Davis 
Val Wilson 
Wilbur Selander 
Will Coertnik 
William Mercer 
[email protected] (Alan McCain)
[email protected] (Alexis Rosen)
[email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt)
[email protected] (Tom Arnold)
[email protected] (LT J.D. Baldwin)
bhaynes%[email protected] (Brad Haynes)
[email protected] (Steven Bjork)
[email protected] (Brian Lloyd)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bruce Hafford)
[email protected] (Cathy Engelhardt)
[email protected] (Albert Langer)
[email protected] (Charles Tarzian)
[email protected] (Dan Danz)
[email protected] (Dobrovolsky Alexandr V.)
[email protected] (Dave Lacey)
[email protected] (Dave Monachello)
[email protected] (william E Davidsen)
[email protected] (Dewayne Hendricks)
[email protected] (Doug Kratky)
[email protected] (Eric Huppertz)
[email protected] (Ed McGuire)
finken@sony (Michael Finken)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Fritz Mueller)
futurix!root (Operator)
[email protected] (John N. Schmidt)
[email protected] (Syed Mohammad Irfan Ashraf)
[email protected] (Jack Bell)
[email protected] (Jess Sullivan)
[email protected] (John Hawkinson)
[email protected] (Jim Watt)
[email protected] (Joe Rosenfeld)
[email protected] (John Kalucki)
[email protected] (Jeff Suttor)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Melvin Klassen)
[email protected] (Martin Lichtin)
[email protected] (Larry Schnack)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Michael C. Kabot)
[email protected] (Milan Merhar)
[email protected] (Milt Ratcliff)
[email protected] (Mike Minnich)
[email protected] (Chris Gayler)
[email protected] (Stephanie Price)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Richard H. Miller)
[email protected] (Rob Peglar)
[email protected] (System Administrator)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Stuart Lynne)
[email protected] (Frank T. Solensky)
[email protected] (Steve Rogers)
[email protected] (Steve Kohlenberger)
[email protected] (Sunil Khandekar)
[email protected] (William C. "Spike" White)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Ben Vaux)
[email protected] (Widjaja Sugiri)
[email protected]
[email protected] (William Twitty)

No votes were as follows:

Aaron Leonard 
Benjamin Fan 
John G Dobnick 
Kevin Kelleher 
Lyndon Nerenberg 
Marc Moorcroft 
Ofer Inbar 
Tom Fitzgerald	
Tony Li 
[email protected] (Christopher Ward)
[email protected] (Theo Deraadt)
[email protected] (Louis A. Mamakos)
[email protected] (mehta)
[email protected]
[email protected] (Bill Owens)
[email protected] (Leonard J. Peirce)
[email protected] (Keith Sklower)
[email protected] (Tommy Hwang)
[email protected] (Tom Barrett)