From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 02:22:57 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.protocols.ppp From: [email protected] (John Kalucki) Subject: RFD: comp.dcom.servers Followup-To: news.groups Keywords: new group, terminal servers, print servers, comm servers. Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1992 17:35:32 GMT Proposal: -------- Creation of new newsgroup comp.dcom.servers. Due to the rapid growth of communication servers in the industry and the lack of a newsgroup to discuss their merits, pitfalls, and configuration I'd like to begin discussion on a new newsgroup, comp.dcom.servers. Status: ------ Unmoderated Charter: ------- To provide a central newsgroup for discussion about communication servers such as terminal servers, network print servers, stand alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand routers, protocol translators, etc. Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: * Functionality of products * Problem solving and appropriate solutions * Interoperability * General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.) * Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks * Ideas/desires for new products and functionality A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the endless messages requesting information of this sort on comp.protocols.tcp-ip and elsewhere. Rationale: --------- Currently there is no central location to discuss this growing field. Messages requesting information about this type of product can be found in such widely dispersed locations as [email protected], comp.dcom.lans, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, comp.protocols.ppp, comp.dcom.cisco, comp.unix.admin and comp.sys.sun.admin. Cisco, Xyplex, Lantronix, Digital, Emulex, Livingston, Telebit, Shiva, Milan and many other vendors provide products of these types, many with overlapping and/or complimentary functionalities. Splitting newsgroups along vendor, or communication server type inhibits relative comparison of product merit and also inhibits problem solving involving two or more different products. Follow Up: --------- Please follow up all discussion to news.groups. From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 22:04:56 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2236 news.groups:49223 comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:643 comp.dcom.lans.misc:249 comp.dcom.modems:19258 comp.dcom.sys.cisco:2178 comp.periphs:4750 comp.protocols.ppp:648 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:19991 comp.unix.admin:6241 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.sys.cisco,comp.periphs,comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.admin Path: uunet!tale From: [email protected] (John Kalucki) Subject: CFV: comp.dcom.servers Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1992 16:34:32 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 44 Call for Votes on new newsgroup COMP.DCOM.SERVERS ------------------------------------------------- Status: ------- Unmoderated Charter: -------- To provide a central, unmoderated, newsgroup for discussion about communication servers such as terminal servers, network print servers, stand alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand routers, protocol translators, and other types of communication servers. Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: * Functionality of products * Problem solving and appropriate solutions * Interoperability * General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.) * Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks * Ideas/desires for new products and functionality A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the endless messages requesting information of this sort on comp.protocols.tcp-ip and elsewhere. This newsgroup is not intended for discussion of servers in general, or servers that provide communications services as a tangentially to their primary purpose, (ie: Unix workstations or Novell file servers). Voting: ------- Mail all yes votes to [email protected] Mail all no votes to [email protected] Yes votes sent to the no account and no votes sent to the yes account will be disregarded. Votes will be accepted through May 7 1992. From [email protected] Mon May 11 17:54:08 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2328 news.groups:50678 comp.dcom.lans.ethernet:855 comp.dcom.lans.misc:352 comp.dcom.modems:20252 comp.dcom.sys.cisco:2241 comp.periphs:4838 comp.protocols.ppp:683 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:20231 comp.unix.admin:6609 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.sys.cisco,comp.periphs,comp.protocols.ppp,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.admin Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (John Kalucki) Subject: RESULT: comp.dcom.servers passes 132: 19 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: Gordian Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 18:11:43 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 225 Voting on the proposed creation of comp.dcom.servers ended May 7th. It received 132 votes for, and 19 votes against. No 'no' votes were received in the 'yes' account and no 'yes' votes were received in the 'no' account. A copy of the proposed charter and all valid votes received are inclosed below. comp.dcom.servers will be created after the standard 5 day waiting period. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Proposal: -------- Creation of new newsgroup comp.dcom.servers. Due to the rapid growth of communication servers in the industry and the lack of a newsgroup to discuss their merits, pitfalls, and configuration I'd like to begin discussion on a new newsgroup, comp.dcom.servers. Status: ------ Unmoderated Charter: ------- To provide a central newsgroup for discussion about communication servers such as terminal servers, network print servers, stand alone SLIP/PPP/Appletalk servers, dial on demand routers, protocol translators, etc. Topics likely to be discussed in comp.dcom.servers would include: * Functionality of products * Problem solving and appropriate solutions * Interoperability * General product selection issues, (price, support, etc.) * Impressions and debate on merit and drawbacks * Ideas/desires for new products and functionality A monthly FAQ would also be posted containing manufacturers of such products and how to contact them. Hopefully this will end the endless messages requesting information of this sort on comp.protocols.tcp-ip and elsewhere. Rationale: --------- Currently there is no central location to discuss this growing field. Messages requesting information about this type of product can be found in such widely dispersed locations as [email protected], comp.dcom.lans, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, comp.protocols.ppp, comp.dcom.cisco and comp.sys.sun.admin. Cisco, Xyplex, Lantronix, Digital, Emulex, Livingston, Telebit, Shiva, Milan and many other vendors provide products of these types, many with overlapping and/or complimentary functionalities. Splitting newsgroups along vendor, or communication server type inhibits relative comparison of product merit and also inhibits problem solving involving two or more different products. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes votes were as follows: A. GrantAndrew M. Dunn Andy Malis Arne Langmo Bob Baal Bob Boyd Bob Snyder Bob Stewart Bob Stodola Bob Sutterfield Bogdan Sniezek Brian Fellows Brian Woodson [email protected] COTTERILL_CLIFF/[email protected] Che-hoo Cheng Christopher Davis [email protected] Cliff Stanford Danny Padwa Dave White David Hopkins David Pfister Doron Shikmoni Edward Vielmetti George Hartzell Gerrit A. Smit Glenn Pearston Greg Brewster Harish Pillay Hugh Tebault Jason Halm Jess Anderson John Gong Joseph Malcolm Ken Adler; Ext. 303" Ken McVay Kimmo Ketolainen [email protected] Larry Rebarchik Leo Smith Mark Marino Mark R. Ludwig [email protected] [email protected] Matthew Lyle Maxime Taksar Mehrdad Solaymantash Mike Gardner [email protected] Milton Scritsmier Pete Gregory Peter Dieth Petri Ojala Rachel Willmer Ray Benash Richard_R.Moore [email protected] (Len Visconti) Saliel Figueira Filho Scott J. Kramer (()) Shane Davis Steve Rumsby Stu Labovitz Thomas Brunner Thomas Canning Thomas D. Davis Val Wilson Wilbur Selander Will Coertnik William Mercer [email protected] (Alan McCain) [email protected] (Alexis Rosen) [email protected] (Andy Finkenstadt) [email protected] (Tom Arnold) [email protected] (LT J.D. Baldwin) bhaynes%[email protected] (Brad Haynes) [email protected] (Steven Bjork) [email protected] (Brian Lloyd) [email protected] [email protected] (Bruce Hafford) [email protected] (Cathy Engelhardt) [email protected] (Albert Langer) [email protected] (Charles Tarzian) [email protected] (Dan Danz) [email protected] (Dobrovolsky Alexandr V.) [email protected] (Dave Lacey) [email protected] (Dave Monachello) [email protected] (william E Davidsen) [email protected] (Dewayne Hendricks) [email protected] (Doug Kratky) [email protected] (Eric Huppertz) [email protected] (Ed McGuire) finken@sony (Michael Finken) [email protected] [email protected] (Fritz Mueller) futurix!root (Operator) [email protected] (John N. Schmidt) [email protected] (Syed Mohammad Irfan Ashraf) [email protected] (Jack Bell) [email protected] (Jess Sullivan) [email protected] (John Hawkinson) [email protected] (Jim Watt) [email protected] (Joe Rosenfeld) [email protected] (John Kalucki) [email protected] (Jeff Suttor) [email protected] [email protected] (Melvin Klassen) [email protected] (Martin Lichtin) [email protected] (Larry Schnack) [email protected] [email protected] (Michael C. Kabot) [email protected] (Milan Merhar) [email protected] (Milt Ratcliff) [email protected] (Mike Minnich) [email protected] (Chris Gayler) [email protected] (Stephanie Price) [email protected] [email protected] (Richard H. Miller) [email protected] (Rob Peglar) [email protected] (System Administrator) [email protected] [email protected] (Stuart Lynne) [email protected] (Frank T. Solensky) [email protected] (Steve Rogers) [email protected] (Steve Kohlenberger) [email protected] (Sunil Khandekar) [email protected] (William C. "Spike" White) [email protected] [email protected] (Ben Vaux) [email protected] (Widjaja Sugiri) [email protected] [email protected] (William Twitty) No votes were as follows: Aaron Leonard Benjamin Fan John G Dobnick Kevin Kelleher Lyndon Nerenberg Marc Moorcroft Ofer Inbar Tom Fitzgerald Tony Li [email protected] (Christopher Ward) [email protected] (Theo Deraadt) [email protected] (Louis A. Mamakos) [email protected] (mehta) [email protected] [email protected] (Bill Owens) [email protected] (Leonard J. Peirce) [email protected] (Keith Sklower) [email protected] (Tommy Hwang) [email protected] (Tom Barrett)