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From [email protected] Sat Nov 27 00:11:52 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Benson D. Scotch) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.italian Subject: RFD: soc.culture.swiss Followup-To: news.groups Date: 24 Nov 1993 14:26:37 -0500 Organization: delphi.com Lines: 67 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4312 news.groups:88618 soc.culture.europe:25180 soc.culture.german:29839 soc.culture.french:30678 soc.culture.italian:19313 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) Proposal for a Newsgroup on Swiss Culture On behalf of myself and numerous others, and in accordance with the general protocol for establishing additional newsgroups, I propose that the following proposal be appropriately distributed for discussion: *Name:* soc.culture.swiss *Type:* unmoderated *Purpose and mission:* This newsgroup would serve as a common ground for the exchange of ideas and information about Switzerland and the several cultures that inspire the alchemy of this special land. Switzerland is one of the world's smaller nations, but its impact on science, technology, art, statesmanship, and education has been greater than its size would suggest. It has been the seat of religious revolution, home to political dissidents, bastion of neutrality, and cauldron for a national character that is at once diverse and unified -- hard-working, independent, and resolute. The paradox of the modern Switzerland is that its independence rests on its internationalism. The Swiss are all over the globe, and the world's architects of commerce and statecraft are constant visitors to Switzerland. Switzerland is a microcosm of Europe and an outpost for observing change and development within the European Community. This newsgroup would provide a place for those with an interest in Swiss culture, politics, and national affairs to trade thoughts, and for those who want to learn more about this unique land to do so. For the Swiss Abroad -- known as the "Fifth Switzerland" (after the German, French, Italian, and Romansch) -- this newsgroup would provide a way to keep in touch and to discuss the frequent referenda that typify the direct Swiss democracy and which are so important in maintaining a sense of national unity and full participation in the life of the country. For the Swiss in Switzerland the newsgroup would be an additional way for the three language cultures to interact. In recent years there have been stresses, particularly between French and German speaking Swiss. This newsgroup might contribute to intercultural understanding in a small way. Given the fracturing of Europe along language, cultural, and ethnic lines, this kind of goal is important. Switzerland is not in any danger of coming apart because of cultural division, but additional lines of communication won't do any harm. When the newsgroup charter is established, it should be emphasized that contributors my use any language they would use in Switzerland -- there will be no limits, including dialects, if the sender can write in dialect. And any message can be answered in the same, or a different language. The newsgroup will not be a "club" for any one language community. Along these lines let me make one point about the name of the newsgroup: It should not connote any one language group within the country. "Swiss" is close the the French "Suisse" and the Italian "Svizzera" and is more appropriate than "Switzerland," which suggests the word "Schweitzer" in the majority German language. The fact that "Swissair" is the name of the nation's official airline tells us that it is adequately neutral. Finally, Swiss culture is distinct from that of the lands where its three major languages -- German, French, and Italian - - arose, and is not served by newsgroups focusing on these countries. (The fourth official language, Romansch, is spoken only in Switzerland.) In sum, the Swiss and those interested in Switzerland would benefit greatly from soc.culture.swiss. Awaiting responses, I am, Yours truly, Benson D. Scotch [email protected] From [email protected] Wed Jan 12 20:20:52 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.italian,ch.general Subject: CFV: soc.culture.swiss Followup-To: poster Date: 9 Jan 1994 22:56:24 -0500 Organization: UVV - UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 93 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 1 Feb 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4465 news.groups:91620 soc.culture.europe:26640 soc.culture.french:32843 soc.culture.german:31970 soc.culture.italian:20732 ch.general:660 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) Unmoderated group soc.culture.swiss Newsgroups line: soc.culture.swiss Swiss culture Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT, 31 January 1994. This vote is being handled by a neutral third-party vote-taker. Questions about voting procedures should be directed to [email protected] (Ian Kluft). Questions about the proposal should be directed to [email protected] (Benson D. Scotch). Additional copies of this CFV will be made available during the voting period via an e-mail server program at [email protected] CHARTER *Purpose and mission:* This newsgroup will serve as a common ground for the exchange of ideas and information about Switzerland and the several cultures that inspire the alchemy of this special land. Switzerland is one of the world's smaller nations, but its impact on science, technology, art, statesmanship, and education has been greater than its size would suggest. It has been the seat of religious revolution, home to political dissidents, bastion of neutrality, and cauldron for a national character that is at once diverse and unified -- hard-working, independent, and resolute. The paradox of the modern Switzerland is that its independence rests on its internationalism. The Swiss are all over the globe, and the world's architects of commerce and statecraft are constant visitors to Switzerland. Switzerland is a microcosm of Europe and an outpost for observing change and development within the European Community. This newsgroup should provide a place for those with an interest in Swiss culture, politics, and national affairs to trade thoughts, and for those who want to learn more about this unique land to do so. For the Swiss Abroad -- known as the "Fifth Switzerland" (after the German, French, Italian, and Romansch) -- this newsgroup should provide a way to keep in touch and to discuss the frequent referenda that typify the direct Swiss democracy and which are so important in maintaining a sense of national unity and full participation in the life of the country. For the Swiss in Switzerland the newsgroup should be an additional way for the three language cultures to interact. *Rules:* (a) Contributors may use any written language they would use in Switzerland, as well as English. But if a sender chooses to use a dialect, it will be an understood courtesy of the newsgroup to offer a summary translation for others. Any message can be answered in the same, or a different language. The newsgroup should not be a "club" for any one language community. (b) Within the general purpose of the newsgroup, there will be no restrictions on topics or message content. However, contributors will emphasize the decorum and respect that typify Switzerland, even when there are disagreements. Thus, the newsgroup should try to become a model of meaningful, but respectful communications, so sorely needed in the world. (c) Contributors should use best efforts to distinguish messages of general interest from personal mail. It is perfectly proper to seek specific help or information, but if the result is a strictly personal exchange, contributors should consider direct E-mail, instead of postings to soc.culture.swiss. (d) This charter is provisional and subject to the wishes of the community it serves. It is not "owned" by any person, language community, or commercial interest. Users with ideas for amendments or improvements should post them to soc.culture.swiss or to the present contact person. STANDARD VOTING INFO You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on soc.culture.swiss I vote NO on soc.culture.swiss Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. You may ABSTAIN in place of YES or NO - abstain votes do not affect the vote outcome. You may change your vote later by voting again. The votetaker will respond to received ballots with mail acks. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the vote results. If you wish to remove your vote and all indication that you have voted from the final list, send a vote with CANCEL in the place of YES/NO/ABSTAIN. Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, no more than one vote per account. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and twice as many YES votes as NO votes are the requirements for group creation. At the end of the voting period, the results will be posted to the same distribution as this CFV. The results are only kept secret while voting is in progress - the results will disclose how each person voted. From [email protected] Sat Jan 22 18:00:09 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.italian,ch.general Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.swiss Supersedes: <[email protected]> Followup-To: poster Date: 22 Jan 1994 17:15:38 -0500 Organization: UVV - UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 107 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Expires: 1 Feb 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4508 news.groups:92737 soc.culture.europe:27606 soc.culture.french:33314 soc.culture.german:32923 soc.culture.italian:21195 ch.general:722 SECOND CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) Unmoderated group soc.culture.swiss Newsgroups line: soc.culture.swiss Swiss culture Votes must be received by 23:59 GMT, 31 January 1994. This vote is being handled by a neutral third-party vote-taker. Questions about voting procedures should be directed to [email protected] (Ian Kluft). Questions about the proposal should be directed to [email protected] (Benson D. Scotch). Additional copies of this CFV will be made available during the voting period via an e-mail server program at [email protected] This is the second and final CFV of this vote. A "bounce acknowledgement" is included at the end of this article. Anyone who sent a vote but did not receive an acknowledgement should check this list. If you are on the list, your vote was received but the acknowledgement sent to you was returned as undeliverable. You do not need to vote again if you received an acknowledgement or are on the bounce-ack list. If you voted but did not receive an acknowledgement and are not on the bounce list, there is no indication that your vote arrived here. Please vote again. If you do not receive an acknowledgement, please inquire with your site's postmaster or with the vote-taker. CHARTER *Purpose and mission:* This newsgroup will serve as a common ground for the exchange of ideas and information about Switzerland and the several cultures that inspire the alchemy of this special land. Switzerland is one of the world's smaller nations, but its impact on science, technology, art, statesmanship, and education has been greater than its size would suggest. It has been the seat of religious revolution, home to political dissidents, bastion of neutrality, and cauldron for a national character that is at once diverse and unified -- hard-working, independent, and resolute. The paradox of the modern Switzerland is that its independence rests on its internationalism. The Swiss are all over the globe, and the world's architects of commerce and statecraft are constant visitors to Switzerland. Switzerland is a microcosm of Europe and an outpost for observing change and development within the European Community. This newsgroup should provide a place for those with an interest in Swiss culture, politics, and national affairs to trade thoughts, and for those who want to learn more about this unique land to do so. For the Swiss Abroad -- known as the "Fifth Switzerland" (after the German, French, Italian, and Romansch) -- this newsgroup should provide a way to keep in touch and to discuss the frequent referenda that typify the direct Swiss democracy and which are so important in maintaining a sense of national unity and full participation in the life of the country. For the Swiss in Switzerland the newsgroup should be an additional way for the three language cultures to interact. *Rules:* (a) Contributors may use any written language they would use in Switzerland, as well as English. But if a sender chooses to use a dialect, it will be an understood courtesy of the newsgroup to offer a summary translation for others. Any message can be answered in the same, or a different language. The newsgroup should not be a "club" for any one language community. (b) Within the general purpose of the newsgroup, there will be no restrictions on topics or message content. However, contributors will emphasize the decorum and respect that typify Switzerland, even when there are disagreements. Thus, the newsgroup should try to become a model of meaningful, but respectful communications, so sorely needed in the world. (c) Contributors should use best efforts to distinguish messages of general interest from personal mail. It is perfectly proper to seek specific help or information, but if the result is a strictly personal exchange, contributors should consider direct E-mail, instead of postings to soc.culture.swiss. (d) This charter is provisional and subject to the wishes of the community it serves. It is not "owned" by any person, language community, or commercial interest. Users with ideas for amendments or improvements should post them to soc.culture.swiss or to the present contact person. STANDARD VOTING INFO You should send MAIL (posts to a group are invalid) to [email protected] (just replying by MAIL to this message should work). Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following statements: I vote YES on soc.culture.swiss I vote NO on soc.culture.swiss Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. You may ABSTAIN in place of YES or NO - abstain votes do not affect the vote outcome. You may change your vote later by voting again. The votetaker will respond to received ballots with mail acks. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the vote results. If you wish to remove your vote and all indication that you have voted from the final list, send a vote with CANCEL in the place of YES/NO/ABSTAIN. Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, no more than one vote per account. 100 more YES votes than NO votes and twice as many YES votes as NO votes are the requirements for group creation. soc.culture.swiss group vote Bounce Ack List ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] [email protected] WICK%[email protected] From [email protected] Fri Feb 4 16:10:42 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.italian,ch.general Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.swiss passes 282:15 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 1 Feb 1994 15:47:12 -0500 Organization: UVV - UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 344 Sender: [email protected] Approved: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4546 news.groups:93792 soc.culture.europe:28417 soc.culture.french:33827 soc.culture.german:33669 soc.culture.italian:21735 ch.general:750 Voting for soc.culture.swiss ended at 31 January 23:59 GMT. The final results are as follows: soc.culture.swiss group vote results - 298 valid votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 282 15 : Yes Yes : Yes : soc.culture.swiss 1 abstaining votes and 6 invalid votes This vote exceeded required margins for 2/3 "yes" votes and 100 more "yes" than "no" votes. Therefore, the newsgroup passed. If there are no serious objections arising from vote-taking procedures, the newsgroup will be created 5 days after these results are posted. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For questions about votetaking procedures only, contact [email protected] (Ian Kluft). Questions about the new newsgroup should be directed to [email protected] (Benson D. Scotch). soc.culture.swiss group vote Final Vote Ack Yes Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Andy J. 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Herbison [email protected] David Boilley [email protected] Borcic Boris [email protected]@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca Claude Boucher [email protected] Claude Bouillin [email protected] ---------------------------------------- [email protected] [email protected] Christian Brechbuehler [email protected] Tilman Brodmeier [email protected] [email protected] Barton W Emanuel [email protected] CARLOS SALUD [email protected] Eduardo CASAIS [email protected] Marco Cattaneo [email protected] Christian Bullat [email protected] Cuno Degiacomi [email protected] I vote YES on soc.culture.swiss Christian Egli [email protected] Chandu Visweswariah [email protected] Alain Chappuis [email protected] Christian Herzig [email protected] Berthe Y. Choueiry [email protected] Christian A. 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Wildi [email protected] Yves PERRENOUD [email protected] Michael J. Quinn [email protected] Alex Repenning [email protected] Rolf B. Eggenberger [email protected] Reber Christian [email protected] Robert E. George [email protected] Franziska Remund [email protected] N.Rennie [email protected] Richard Godard [email protected] Martin Rickli [email protected] Robert L. Kimmel [email protected] Reyes G. Mabasa [email protected] Ruth M. 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Sprenger [email protected] [email protected] Stefan Teodoropol [email protected] Stephan Murer [email protected] Stephane Barbey [email protected] Luca Stolcis [email protected] [email protected] John Stockli [email protected] gabor szekely [email protected] Thorsten Daum [email protected] Patrick Seemann [email protected] Mitch Temoche [email protected] Thomas Havlovec [email protected] Thomas Brunner [email protected] Timo Rinne [email protected] /usr/spool/mail/tissot [email protected] Thomas M. Stricker [email protected] Matthias Troyer [email protected] Trudy Weibel [email protected] Thorsten von Eicken [email protected] D. Nikolaidis [email protected] Amar R Breckenridge [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] Bernard Waeber [email protected] Alain WATKINE [email protected] Wilhelm Buehler [email protected] Stephen A. Weatherford [email protected] WICK%[email protected] [email protected] Christoph Wicki [email protected] John WILCOCK [email protected] William Linser [email protected] Alfred Keller [email protected] Chris Baleine [email protected] LMD/T/TR GUEST Biagio Marcone [email protected] Josef Buergler [email protected] Zurlinden Andreas No Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] [email protected] Paulo da Costa [email protected] Hr Daniel Meier [email protected] Talib [email protected] John De Armond [email protected] John R. MacWilliamson [email protected] Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS [email protected] Nikolaus Almassy [email protected] Oliver Klink [email protected] Sendhil Revuluri [email protected] Richard H. Miller [email protected] [email protected] Shane Hartman [email protected] Dwight Brown [email protected] Abstaining Votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] Jason Faultless Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [email protected] TOM BICKLE ! No votes [email protected] Gabriel Climescu ! No votes [email protected] Michel Fougeres ! No votes [email protected] Neil Jurado Solf ! Conflicting votes [email protected] ! No votes
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