From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 02:42:44 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1730 news.groups:37198 comp.databases:13135 comp.ai:8594 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.databases,comp.ai Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] Subject: RFD: comp.databases.theory Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: University of South Australia Date: 13 Jan 92 16:11:38 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 21 Maybe the time has come to set up another database newsgroup. The trouble with COMP.DATABASES is twofold. Firstly the volume of stuff posted makes it impossible to read it all, expecially when time is limited, and secondly, from my point of view (and I suspect others) most of the postings are too much problem solving ("I've got this problem with Oracle") and not enough discussion. How about the following: COMP.DATABASE - as now COMP.DATABASE.THEORY - discussion of db theory and paradigms COMP.DATABASE.AI \ or - discussion of expert databases etc. COMP.AI.DATABASE / (if sufficient demand) John Roddick -- School of Mathematics and Computer Studies | International +61 8 302 3463 University of South Australia | Australian (08) 302 3463 Levels Campus Pooraka | Internal ext. 3463 South Australia 5095 | Fax (08) 302 3381 Net: [email protected] | From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 03:26:07 1992 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1913 news.groups:40839 comp.theory:4056 comp.databases:14362 comp.ai:9232 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.theory,comp.databases,comp.ai Path: rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] Subject: CFV: comp.databases.theory Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: University of South Australia Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1992 16:41:33 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 48 CALL FOR VOTES: comp.database.theory STATUS: Unmoderated CHARTER: Discussion of topics relating to advances in database technology including debate on theoretical, prototypical and performance aspects of Database Systems, Data Modelling and Logical and Physical Database Design. NOTE: Specifically excluded are discussions relating to implemented DBMS whether commercial or not. RATIONALE: The RFD showed two failings of the COMP.DATABASE newsgroup which this group will attempt to remedy. a. The number of postings prohibits reading of all the information posted. b. The relevance of many of the postings is limited. Note that this is NOT designed to compete with or replace the dbworld mailing list. Clearly calls for papers etc. will probably be posted to both. MECHANICS: This vote will run from the time of posting through to 23:59 GMT Sunday, 12 April 1992. Only votes received by email as specified below will be counted. If the vote for the group passes by the usual criteria of 100 more YES than NO and twice as many YES as NO votes, then the group will be created. Votes and result will be acknowledged en masse in a posting on Wednesday, 22 April 1992. CASTING VOTES: Send email to: [email protected] Stating either: I vote FOR the proposal to set up COMP.DATABASE.THEORY or I vote AGAINST the proposal to set up COMP.DATABASE.THEORY -- John Roddick | Ph: (08) 302 3463 School of Computer and Information Science | Itn: +61 8 302 3463 University of South Australia | Fax: (08) 302 3381 THE LEVELS SA 5095 | Net: [email protected] From [email protected] Sat Apr 4 03:31:32 1992 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.databases From: [email protected] (John Roddick) Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.databases.theory Followup-To: poster Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: University of South Australia Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1992 17:36:52 GMT 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: comp.databases.theory STATUS: Unmoderated CHARTER: Discussion of topics relating to advances in database technology including debate on theoretical, prototypical and performance aspects of Database Systems, Data Modelling and Logical and Physical Database Design. NOTE: Specifically excluded are discussions relating to implemented DBMS whether commercial or not. RATIONALE: The RFD showed two failings of the COMP.DATABASES newsgroup which this group will attempt to remedy. a. The number of postings prohibits reading of all the information posted. b. The relevance of many of the postings is limited. Note that this is NOT designed to compete with or replace the dbworld mailing list. Clearly calls for papers etc. will probably be posted to both. MECHANICS: This vote will run from the time of posting through to 23:59 GMT Sunday, 12 April 1992. Only votes received by email as specified below will be counted. If the vote for the group passes by the usual criteria of 100 more YES than NO and twice as many YES as NO votes, then the group will be created. Votes and result will be acknowledged en masse in a posting on Wednesday, 22 April 1992. CASTING VOTES: Send email to: [email protected] Stating either: I vote FOR the proposal to set up COMP.DATABASES.THEORY or I vote AGAINST the proposal to set up COMP.DATABASES.THEORY -- John Roddick | Ph: (08) 302 3463 School of Computer and Information Science | Itn: +61 8 302 3463 University of South Australia | Fax: (08) 302 3381 THE LEVELS SA 5095 | Net: [email protected] From [email protected] Sun Apr 19 21:58:57 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2215 news.groups:48783 comp.databases:16743 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.databases Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Database Systems Research GroupSubject: RESULT: comp.databases.theory passes 208: 14 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: University of South Australia Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:13:03 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 263 VOTE RESULT: COMP.DATABASES.THEORY PASSES VOTING: FOR: 208 AGAINST: 14 STATUS: Unmoderated CHARTER: Discussion of topics relating to advances in database technology including debate on theoretical, prototypical and performance aspects of Database Systems, Data Modelling and Logical and Physical Database Design. Specifically excluded are discussions relating to implemented DBMS whether commercial or not. The Newsgroup will be set up after the five day period has elapsed. Thanks to everyone who voted. ------------ VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT VOTES FOR ========= Voter Date of Receipt of Vote (Australian Central Time) [email protected] 3-APR-1992 11:40:32.76 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 05:23:58.88 [email protected] 20-MAR-1992 05:16:22.43 [email protected] Arno Siebes 16-MAR-1992 22:11:44.99 [email protected] B.J.King 26-MAR-1992 10:10:21.71 BR.SJE%[email protected] Steve Eastman 14-MAR-1992 05:45:52.25 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 03:11:55.41 [email protected] 21-MAR-1992 04:22:39.36 [email protected] 1-APR-1992 03:30:48.10 [email protected] 28-MAR-1992 07:40:41.43 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 04:57:02.09 [email protected] Eric Dujardin 15-MAR-1992 13:51:33.02 [email protected] 20-MAR-1992 05:15:59.21 [email protected] 28-MAR-1992 12:18:51.66 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 17:58:16.54 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 05:22:52.51 [email protected] 29-MAR-1992 09:52:40.01 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 08:16:53.68 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 21:52:39.98 [email protected] Albert Burger 27-MAR-1992 20:06:59.76 [email protected] john ackley 24-MAR-1992 21:35:26.09 [email protected] Alan D. Cabrera 18-MAR-1992 01:11:43.97 [email protected] a.e.mossberg 28-MAR-1992 04:44:51.53 [email protected] Alexandre Lefebvre 16-MAR-1992 10:28:10.57 [email protected] Aki Fleshler 24-MAR-1992 08:20:16.50 [email protected] 15-MAR-1992 00:21:18.38 [email protected] Allan Cobb 23-MAR-1992 06:16:13.25 [email protected] Alvaro Fernandes 31-MAR-1992 22:07:02.62 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 04:36:29.71 [email protected] 31-MAR-1992 04:49:22.50 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 20:26:54.07 [email protected] 30-MAR-1992 11:57:51.87 [email protected] 15-MAR-1992 16:26:19.69 [email protected] B. 20-MAR-1992 05:14:58.07 [email protected] 31-MAR-1992 01:05:14.50 [email protected] Nagabhushan Beeram 16-MAR-1992 15:26:18.18 [email protected] Bengt Larsson 18-MAR-1992 04:22:30.02 [email protected] Beverly Seavey 24-MAR-1992 09:44:12.43 [email protected] 15-MAR-1992 03:42:03.09 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 00:37:53.99 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 07:48:48.94 blm%[email protected] 22-MAR-1992 11:37:21.50 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 10:03:19.58 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 07:21:02.42 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 05:40:33.94 [email protected] 3-APR-1992 03:28:50.84 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 13:16:47.64 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 04:50:20.56 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 03:56:34.23 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 05:01:32.66 [email protected] 27-MAR-1992 17:17:04.11 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 05:05:38.87 [email protected] Enrique Cortes-Rello 17-MAR-1992 09:14:10.16 [email protected] F. Terenas 28-MAR-1992 12:19:20.58 [email protected] Kristian Damm Jensen 15-MAR-1992 01:59:06.02 [email protected] Kim Chung Chan 16-MAR-1992 21:52:34.02 [email protected] 21-MAR-1992 03:11:03.68 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 04:22:00.13 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 03:25:41.96 [email protected] David Hansen 14-MAR-1992 03:20:28.85 [email protected] Dharanidharan.R 16-MAR-1992 12:41:45.52 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 01:37:52.30 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 12:07:07.76 [email protected] Dominik Lukes 16-MAR-1992 10:59:15.55 [email protected] David Kinny 16-MAR-1992 12:36:51.43 [email protected] 26-MAR-1992 11:54:12.75 [email protected] 28-MAR-1992 04:41:20.86 [email protected] 19-MAR-1992 10:47:20.90 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 13:30:45.77 [email protected] 6-APR-1992 10:16:36.95 [email protected] 20-MAR-1992 03:55:29.60 [email protected] 31-MAR-1992 04:52:24.62 [email protected] 30-MAR-1992 09:04:10.66 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 06:41:15.36 [email protected] Andreas Geppert 26-MAR-1992 21:11:54.00 [email protected] Gill Dobbie 24-MAR-1992 14:10:26.10 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 10:00:45.77 [email protected] Glenn Paulley 14-MAR-1992 04:34:32.03 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 08:47:41.49 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 08:58:59.03 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 08:17:01.19 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 00:18:19.40 [email protected] 29-MAR-1992 10:46:28.68 [email protected] 27-MAR-1992 05:45:32.44 [email protected] jim gustafson 15-MAR-1992 16:09:21.56 [email protected] Philip Hall 19-MAR-1992 09:31:02.24 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 19:13:35.49 [email protected] Ramzi Ahmad Haraty 16-MAR-1992 02:27:09.26 [email protected] Toru Hasegawa 17-MAR-1992 12:27:31.08 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 02:14:33.77 [email protected] 23-MAR-1992 21:05:49.36 hugh%[email protected] 18-MAR-1992 03:34:41.07 [email protected] 20-MAR-1992 05:26:52.83 [email protected] 20-MAR-1992 03:33:25.47 [email protected] Jack Campin 16-MAR-1992 10:59:00.64 [email protected] JAMES THOM 16-MAR-1992 11:05:14.14 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 09:16:02.03 [email protected] Jeff Graves 18-MAR-1992 14:15:54.21 [email protected] 26-MAR-1992 23:33:58.29 [email protected] James K. Mullin 14-MAR-1992 07:34:52.56 [email protected] 15-MAR-1992 05:10:24.49 [email protected] John Roddick 16-MAR-1992 11:57:55.99 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 11:33:22.96 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 06:52:45.14 [email protected] 23-MAR-1992 11:02:18.03 [email protected] John Connett 17-MAR-1992 03:15:08.60 [email protected] James Rogers 14-MAR-1992 04:50:15.78 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 10:48:56.52 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 06:52:58.04 [email protected] 23-MAR-1992 21:46:05.19 [email protected] Kaliappan Shekar 16-MAR-1992 02:12:17.15 [email protected] David Karger 14-MAR-1992 09:32:29.69 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 18:00:26.43 [email protected] Alex Kean 17-MAR-1992 04:24:15.61 [email protected] 15-MAR-1992 05:22:27.53 [email protected] Paul Kent 14-MAR-1992 04:51:06.68 [email protected] Sidney W. Kitchel 24-MAR-1992 05:04:15.44 [email protected] 3-APR-1992 04:32:30.06 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 06:12:08.97 [email protected] Paparao Kodali 16-MAR-1992 03:09:59.38 [email protected] G. Koestler 18-MAR-1992 02:19:05.17 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 09:24:52.49 [email protected] 15-MAR-1992 04:21:39.69 [email protected] Kirk Scott 16-MAR-1992 03:55:30.40 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 19:34:08.32 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 08:27:50.40 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 08:26:08.54 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 11:41:24.54 [email protected] 26-MAR-1992 20:23:11.28 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 08:51:56.39 [email protected] Alon Y. Levy 14-MAR-1992 08:28:03.89 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 05:11:59.35 [email protected] 26-MAR-1992 03:58:16.67 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 04:50:25.50 [email protected] 29-MAR-1992 10:06:59.90 [email protected] 21-MAR-1992 06:14:44.72 matwood%[email protected] 14-MAR-1992 07:17:07.92 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 09:11:07.01 [email protected] Lester I. McCann 16-MAR-1992 01:28:40.18 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 13:27:53.84 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 09:33:02.50 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 05:33:12.95 [email protected] 15-MAR-1992 04:31:46.31 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 18:24:15.74 [email protected] Martin Boening 26-MAR-1992 04:57:10.31 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 12:24:50.40 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 05:45:59.23 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 09:47:47.06 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 10:06:09.88 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 23:05:35.52 [email protected] Otis Kenny 14-MAR-1992 07:39:15.17 [email protected] Nuno Paixao 14-MAR-1992 06:09:38.27 [email protected] Paul Kupersmith 14-MAR-1992 04:22:00.18 [email protected] Brajendra Panda 27-MAR-1992 03:04:42.06 [email protected] Paul Singleton 20-MAR-1992 05:15:14.24 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 17:58:42.92 [email protected] Po Shan Cheah 14-MAR-1992 08:14:11.11 [email protected] Fred Heutte 25-MAR-1992 08:26:15.80 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 03:02:09.26 [email protected] Paul Turner 26-MAR-1992 08:28:47.57 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 03:55:17.10 [email protected] Michael Ranft 17-MAR-1992 00:48:53.16 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 03:21:39.35 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 02:16:48.23 [email protected] 20-MAR-1992 15:14:43.76 [email protected] Robert J Carter 17-MAR-1992 05:01:34.73 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 23:46:29.23 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 07:57:43.60 [email protected] 1-APR-1992 18:51:04.43 [email protected] 19-MAR-1992 05:42:35.67 [email protected] 29-MAR-1992 11:36:28.81 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 05:10:25.81 [email protected] Russell Palmer 16-MAR-1992 21:39:26.29 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 19:16:34.34 [email protected] Hartmut Schreiber 14-MAR-1992 05:30:57.84 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 16:23:55.97 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 03:35:20.29 [email protected] Shaibal Roy 28-MAR-1992 14:23:34.20 shaneb@[email protected] 25-MAR-1992 15:52:49.94 [email protected] 10-APR-1992 00:43:16.07 [email protected] Dag Sjoberg 16-MAR-1992 10:59:06.42 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 05:43:20.91 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 16:34:10.97 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 10:51:05.06 [email protected] 26-MAR-1992 13:24:44.75 [email protected] Seppo T|rm{ 17-MAR-1992 00:33:15.55 [email protected] Thodoros Topaloglou 17-MAR-1992 01:01:17.15 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 06:30:17.61 [email protected] Dan Thureen 16-MAR-1992 16:26:27.10 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 09:32:13.45 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 08:26:01.41 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 08:33:05.86 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 04:36:28.65 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 03:05:37.45 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 03:52:03.03 [email protected] Andrei Voronkov 25-MAR-1992 07:46:14.43 [email protected] Wilfried Fox 27-MAR-1992 16:53:45.75 [email protected] 21-MAR-1992 05:04:39.61 [email protected] 25-MAR-1992 08:25:41.67 [email protected] Hans-Dirk Walter 25-MAR-1992 22:54:05.66 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 07:18:12.63 [email protected] 24-MAR-1992 06:53:30.29 [email protected] 23-MAR-1992 20:22:06.03 [email protected] 31-MAR-1992 04:22:17.03 [email protected] R.J.Mersel 18-MAR-1992 06:22:00.00 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 12:50:20.15 [email protected] 1-APR-1992 06:22:15.75 [email protected] Michael Zapp 14-MAR-1992 04:58:00.81 VOTES AGAINST ============= Voter Date of Receipt of Vote (Australian Central Time) [email protected] John Heim 14-MAR-1992 05:32:33.52 [email protected] 1-APR-1992 09:26:45.11 [email protected] 7-APR-1992 09:08:30.10 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 07:16:30.30 [email protected] John E. Babbitt Jr. 17-MAR-1992 06:32:43.74 [email protected] 17-MAR-1992 06:35:59.96 [email protected] John G Dobnick 6-APR-1992 08:42:44.19 [email protected] 18-MAR-1992 04:32:31.78 [email protected] 16-MAR-1992 11:36:27.03 [email protected] 15-MAR-1992 08:08:36.40 [email protected] 14-MAR-1992 09:21:21.18 [email protected] 28-MAR-1992 12:18:36.19 [email protected] 10-APR-1992 23:42:15.37 wgs@trac4633+.ueci.com Walter Scheipe 25-MAR-1992 00:30:10.99 -- John Roddick | Ph: (08) 302 3463 School of Computer and Information Science | Itn: +61 8 302 3463 University of South Australia | Fax: (08) 302 3381 THE LEVELS SA 5095 | Net: [email protected] From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:42:42 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1730 news.groups:37198 comp.databases:13135 comp.ai:8594 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.databases,comp.ai Path: rpi!bounce-back From: [email protected] Subject: RFD: comp.databases.theory Followup-To: news.groups Sender: [email protected] Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.rpi.edu Organization: University of South Australia Date: 13 Jan 92 16:11:38 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 21 Status: O X-Status: Maybe the time has come to set up another database newsgroup. The trouble with COMP.DATABASES is twofold. Firstly the volume of stuff posted makes it impossible to read it all, expecially when time is limited, and secondly, from my point of view (and I suspect others) most of the postings are too much problem solving ("I've got this problem with Oracle") and not enough discussion. How about the following: COMP.DATABASE - as now COMP.DATABASE.THEORY - discussion of db theory and paradigms COMP.DATABASE.AI \ or - discussion of expert databases etc. COMP.AI.DATABASE / (if sufficient demand) John Roddick -- School of Mathematics and Computer Studies | International +61 8 302 3463 University of South Australia | Australian (08) 302 3463 Levels Campus Pooraka | Internal ext. 3463 South Australia 5095 | Fax (08) 302 3381 Net: [email protected] | From [email protected] Tue Sep 12 10:47:15 1995 Xref: rpi news.announce.newgroups:1913 news.groups:40839 comp.theory:4056 comp.databases:14362 comp.ai:9232 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.theory,comp.databases,comp.ai Path: rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bounce-back From: [email protected] Subject: CFV: comp.databases.theory Followup-To: poster Sender: [email protected] (David C Lawrence) Organization: University of South Australia Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1992 16:41:33 GMT Approved: [email protected] Lines: 48 Status: RO X-Status: CALL FOR VOTES: comp.database.theory STATUS: Unmoderated CHARTER: Discussion of topics relating to advances in database technology including debate on theoretical, prototypical and performance aspects of Database Systems, Data Modelling and Logical and Physical Database Design. NOTE: Specifically excluded are discussions relating to implemented DBMS whether commercial or not. RATIONALE: The RFD showed two failings of the COMP.DATABASE newsgroup which this group will attempt to remedy. a. The number of postings prohibits reading of all the information posted. b. The relevance of many of the postings is limited. Note that this is NOT designed to compete with or replace the dbworld mailing list. Clearly calls for papers etc. will probably be posted to both. MECHANICS: This vote will run from the time of posting through to 23:59 GMT Sunday, 12 April 1992. Only votes received by email as specified below will be counted. If the vote for the group passes by the usual criteria of 100 more YES than NO and twice as many YES as NO votes, then the group will be created. Votes and result will be acknowledged en masse in a posting on Wednesday, 22 April 1992. CASTING VOTES: Send email to: [email protected] Stating either: I vote FOR the proposal to set up COMP.DATABASE.THEORY or I vote AGAINST the proposal to set up COMP.DATABASE.THEORY -- John Roddick | Ph: (08) 302 3463 School of Computer and Information Science | Itn: +61 8 302 3463 University of South Australia | Fax: (08) 302 3381 THE LEVELS SA 5095 | Net: [email protected]